Debate Night: Policies, Punchlines & Political Showdowns

In this episode of Pardon the Politics, Jeezy and Manny break down the recent presidential debate, discussing the key moments, candidate policies, and the unexpected punchlines that stole the show. With battleground states on the line and campaign funding in the spotlight, this episode brings you the analysis you need with the humor you love. Tune in for sharp takes and political insights as the hosts navigate the debate that could shape the election.

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Antonio Newton: Hello world. This is the part in the politics. Podcast this is season, one episode, one. I'm your co-host cheesy.
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Emmanuel Wilder: And sitting next to him or across from him, is your man, Manny.
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Emmanuel Wilder: and we're getting ready to to dig into all the happenings in politics over the last week, so
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Emmanuel Wilder: jeez we had. We had a pretty busy week.
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Antonio Newton: We we did. We had a very interesting week, to say the least.
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Antonio Newton: We started off the week on Tuesday with a
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Antonio Newton: Very entertaining and comical. If you will debate
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Antonio Newton: between Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump.
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Emmanuel Wilder: Yeah. Yeah. And
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Emmanuel Wilder: you know, I think walking into it, we we knew we were going to at least get this debate. I think I think the judge and the jury are still out of whether we'll see a second one. So
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Emmanuel Wilder: I think, as America kinda goes through and you know, is helping make their decisions. You know, we we were hoping there would be multiple but we got one. So
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Emmanuel Wilder: yeah, there was there. There was a lot there to to unpack.
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Antonio Newton: It. It was a a lot to impact, I think, when we talked about it. I was taking notes on
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Antonio Newton: different things that were going on through the debate, and it got to a point where it got so entertaining I had to sit my pen and pad down and just enjoy the show because it was
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Antonio Newton: it was very, very entertaining, and you know I'm I'm glad that we got this debate.
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Antonio Newton: you know it was some rumblings of if it would happen. Would it happen? The stipulation rules on how it would happen? But I'm finally glad that we actually got it. Now to your point. I don't think that I'm I'm curious to know if we're going to get another one
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Antonio Newton: because I don't know of either side.
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Antonio Newton: necessarily got the point across of what they were trying to accomplish. And I think we'll talk about it later on in the podcast I think it may have hurt some more than others.
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Antonio Newton: but I'd be interested, and I I don't think. And it's just my opinion I don't think that we're going to get another one. If we do, I'd be very surprised.
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Emmanuel Wilder: I mean, cause what's the win? I think that's that's what they have to determine. You know. What what do I plan to walk away from, and is there more opportunity for it to hurt me than actually to help me in any ways? And I think they both have a lot to lose by doing a second one. Now there'll be a whole nother question about, you know, a vice presidential debate, and we'll we'll get into that in Episode 2, y'all about whether it be a vice presidential debate. But
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Emmanuel Wilder: as for right now, I think, as you stepped into the debate and really started listening. You know.
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Emmanuel Wilder: I think the American people really had hopes of really understanding what these people were going to do when they got into the office, and I don't know if we got that. But when you know we were talking before, and as we were going through it.
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Emmanuel Wilder: I kind of outlined some big things that I expected to hear from them. And none of these had to do actually do with policy or anything. But you know, keys to victory. Yeah. And I'm gonna I'm gonna start with, you know, former President trump the
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Emmanuel Wilder: his 1st and Major Key, and I think it is his stalwart of going into a debate is controlling the narrative. You know, trump is an individual who likes to always control the narrative, no matter what the subject is, whether it's hurting or helping him. So I think that was one of his big big goals. Then the next one. It was having a presidential tone, you know, hands down. I think everyone from both sides knows
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Emmanuel Wilder: Trump's tone isn't necessarily presidential. But when you're looking at an election that's getting ready to be as close as it is, having that tone of leadership was going to be really important, and his ability to be able to stay calm while still looking strong. Another big key for him.
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Emmanuel Wilder: 3rd one, like we already alluded to before. Policy, clarity like he
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Emmanuel Wilder: what's what you doing, man?
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Emmanuel Wilder: And then the the last 2, the the last one for him was addressing criticisms that he has, and there's there's a ample list of criticisms that trump carries.
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Emmanuel Wilder: and then 5
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Emmanuel Wilder: was the hardest. You know. I he had to. He was stepping into an arena with a seasoned political official, not only season and experience.
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Emmanuel Wilder: but she's also the lead prosecutor
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Emmanuel Wilder: for the State of California.
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Antonio Newton: Yeah.
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Emmanuel Wilder: Then on top of that, having to be trying to win an argument with her. And
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Emmanuel Wilder: you know I've had many of arguments with my wife.
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Emmanuel Wilder: I haven't won many.
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Antonio Newton: And I think that's the thing that's interesting with trump is that he must. Obviously Melania must. Don't, don't, don't bark back too much because you ain't winning, though
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Antonio Newton: debate with no wife, and you definitely not about to win one with a with a black woman.
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Antonio Newton: So he. This was a very interesting take that. He was going to have to go in there, and I think that
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Antonio Newton: to some of your keys that you pointed out to you. One thing that I was looking for from from former President trump was
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Antonio Newton: to look presidential. Now I know that that's not his thing you know we've we've we've seen trump for many years. Now we understand his direction. We understand his tone. We understand. We understand how he likes to portray himself. But I feel that in an election
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Antonio Newton: and in this season of this election that we're in.
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Antonio Newton: he really needed to do that. His base is his base. He! He's not adding or subtracting necessarily to the base. The base is the base
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Antonio Newton: but when you have in this election so many voters. We talked about this before about how many new Gen. Z. Voters are coming in. That are fresh to politics.
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Antonio Newton: That don't have necessarily clear indication of which way they want to go, I think, you know. And I'm I'm assuming that this has probably been spoken to within his campaign.
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Antonio Newton: You gotta so those people gotta gotta be grabbed. Somebody's got to grab those people
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Antonio Newton: and I felt like, had he come out and looked presidential?
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Antonio Newton: then I felt like he had an opportunity to grab them. I feel like now he's he's definitely behind the 8 ball and trying to grab some of those voters, because, instead of looking Presidential, you know, he he walked in as if, you know, he was at the high school cafeteria, trying to defend himself against a a bully, and I will be honest. She came out like a bully.
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Emmanuel Wilder: She body them immediately. Immediately. And and you know we say Bully very, not in the the negative context. But she really just kind of had control. You saw that immediately, as soon as they walked out like Trump was trying to go right to the podium. She's like, now we are. Gonna have this face to face before we get down to business, and.
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Emmanuel Wilder: It. She set the tone she set the tone back to Trump's Key is one of the 1st thing controlling the tone.
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Antonio Newton: Control, controlling the tone, yeah.
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Emmanuel Wilder: That was, that was the 1st vision of shakiness on his side. On being able to control the tone.
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Antonio Newton: And I think that when I saw that to your point, Manny, when I saw that.
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Antonio Newton: you know that was another way that he could have taken control of. The the situation of the narrative. He! He! You know, trump, knows how, what, how people view him, what they say about him, and I think, had he came out and stood firm in the middle of that stage and shook her hand. With that weird, awkward, forceful handshake that he loves to do.
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Emmanuel Wilder: Jerk. They'll pull you in.
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Antonio Newton: Yeah.
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Emmanuel Wilder: Back at your hand.
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Antonio Newton: That is weird. But you know, had he done that, you know, he that would have definitely, I think, changed the tone a little bit of how the night went, but instead, he kind of just, you know, in my mind, in my opinion, you know, he kind of cowardly just went behind his podium and made it look like, Hey, you know, I just I don't want nothing to do with it, and I loved it. The the strength and what she did, and really low key, let them know like, Hey, my name is Kamala Harry.
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Emmanuel Wilder: This is not coming.
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Antonio Newton: It's not all these weird pronunciations that you keep doing. It's a very simple comma. Look, Harris, and I love that, and I didn't hear it until in some some replays back. But even down for her to say, Let's have a good debate tonight.
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Antonio Newton: That was, that was Presidential. That was leadership to me.
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Emmanuel Wilder: That that I think she and her camp knows is their biggest weapon, you know, always being able to look like we are. Gonna handle this professionally. We're gonna be adults about this. We're going to disagree. But I'm not gonna lose it and be baited into down into the mud with you and I I think that is one of the things that she had to do when I look at her keys.
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Emmanuel Wilder: You know 1, st first, st that I had on for her was defining her leadership. Credentials.
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Emmanuel Wilder: you know, largely for this, you know, and I think it's the the quote unquote trap that most vice Presidential candidates who have been Vice Presidents who are now running for Presidents have to run into. They're like, who who are you? As a leader outside of the person who selected you to be their number 2. So she had to define those leadership credentials
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Emmanuel Wilder: the second one. And you know, I know we're getting ready to hit on this, being able to counter
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Emmanuel Wilder: all of Trump's attacks, and being able to handle that, and being able to do that in such a way that she came out with strength.
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Emmanuel Wilder: The 3rd one I have, for she had to get that larger appeal.
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Emmanuel Wilder: you know. I think if you look back at a lot of these 3rd party organizations and how they've ranked her. They've ranked her as a more liberal Senator.
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Emmanuel Wilder: So and I think that's also the the process, you know, as you get through primary season, we didn't have that this go round, but as you go from like the primary season to the the general election season.
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Emmanuel Wilder: Every candidate moderates themselves. So how was she going to appeal to that broader audience, the 4th one I had for her? She had to challenge trump
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Emmanuel Wilder: challenge the record. You know, I think this is one of those really strange dynamics that we have particularly in this election is that we do have quote unquote 2 known quantities who have been in leadership at this level like, how often do you have the you know the Republican candidate who's been in the office. So you know, they know what's going on. They have a record to speak to. And then you have a vice president sitting Vice President who currently has a record that they can be tied to.
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Emmanuel Wilder: And so I think it's the 1st time to really have this strong state. It's not the 1st time it's happened before, but it's the 1st time in in recent history where we've had this, that real real dynamic there
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Emmanuel Wilder: and then. The 5th one was
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Emmanuel Wilder: was her bread and butter, being able to showcase empathy to the different voters and the struggles that they're dealing with, and those
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Emmanuel Wilder: those were were the big things that I had for her, that she needed to be a for her to claim victory. In this debate she had to do well.
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Antonio Newton: And I think out of those out of those 5 keys I think she really hit
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Antonio Newton: she she really hit quite a few of them successfully the leadership one. I think, that people really
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Antonio Newton: wondering if she was, could be a strong leader. I think one thing that I've really appreciated that she shared, and she's she shared it before during certain campaign rallies and events. But I love the way that she displayed her leadership and sharing the information with Ukraine about you know us intelligence and what they what they saw that you know the Intel they had, as far as Russia trying to invade. I love how, hearing how she, you know.
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Antonio Newton: exemplify that leadership with world leaders, telling them, informing them, bringing them together, you know, to In that particular situation share that information. I love that it. You know she's had experience in traveling to these different places and and showing some type of leadership. And I think what you know, those aren't things that most common Americans
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Antonio Newton: here or really internalize as a as a strong leader. So in the fact of hearing that on top of actually seeing her body language, her demeanor on the stay on the debate stage. Those different things that she did show that she is capable. Well, I'm I'm not. Gonna sit here and say and and give her
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Antonio Newton: the badge of leadership and give her a certificate, saying that she's a perfect leader, but it definitely showed that she was capable. And I think that's something that the Trump
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Antonio Newton: campaign has tried to put out. There is that she doesn't have the capability to be a leader. And I don't think that's a question anymore. I think that she's very capable
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Antonio Newton: of being a leader.
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Emmanuel Wilder: Yeah, no, absolutely absolutely. And you to second that. You saw that with the attacks, you know, during during the debate. And I think the 2 things that both candidates wanted to tie to each other.
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Emmanuel Wilder: Kamalo and the Harris team wanted to tie Project 2025 to trump and then trump wanted to tie Biden to Harris. Hands down, you know I I empathize with trump, you know, all the way up until the big switch happened to have set up an entire campaign in strategy
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Emmanuel Wilder: running against Joe Biden, who had weaknesses.
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Antonio Newton: Yeah.
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Emmanuel Wilder: And then to switch it. The closest recollection that I could draw to this change
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Emmanuel Wilder: is, you remember, in d 2 mighty ducks, when when they were playing the Iceland team.
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Emmanuel Wilder: And then 3rd period, they came out in New Jersey, and it was like, Oh.
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Emmanuel Wilder: ain't the same ducks that we.
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Antonio Newton: Like.
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Emmanuel Wilder: So yeah.
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Emmanuel Wilder: did that have him rattled? I don't know. I think to a degree that it was impactful, because one of.
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Antonio Newton: Careful.
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Emmanuel Wilder: One of the things that I saw as super super interesting from a
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Emmanuel Wilder: from a trump perspective of like, always kind of stating, or always kind of feeling in control when they ask the question, What are you gonna do about healthcare? Yeah. And he for him to say, we have concepts of a plan. And I'm like.
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Emmanuel Wilder: Whoa! That's that's real problematic, you know, before we get to the actual like problematic part of it, that that there is no plan. Yeah, from a trump perspective. You've never really seen him. Be that quote unquote, weak on a subject like, there's always we have a plan. We're just not going to tell you. Yeah, it's always been that confidence. We have it. We're just.
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Emmanuel Wilder: We're not telling you yet. This is the 1st time that I remember recent history. These, like, yeah, we kind of don't have it all together.
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Antonio Newton: Yeah, we don't have it yet.
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Emmanuel Wilder: So too.
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Antonio Newton: I think that's interesting, because he's been so
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Antonio Newton: adamant about how horrible it is.
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Antonio Newton: or how horrible just something is. And his his mantra is always
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Antonio Newton: on on day one. I'll fix it. I always. I always got a solution. It's very simple. If if I'm in control of it, it will be, it will be perfect. It won't happen, it won't. It won't be this way. And the, and to kind of see him in a state of
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Antonio Newton: I don't have a plan. I really I don't. I mean, I got a con concepts of a plan is like something I thought about when I was like brushing my teeth this morning. Concepts of a plan is like, you know, when I was driving home I thought about something I was like that might actually be a good idea. That's not something that I want to hear from somebody that is, gonna be in control of the country. And you know to to another point that you made.
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Antonio Newton: I think that seeing him from the the stance of weakness in this debate
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Antonio Newton: just further shows me that they have not recovered from the big switch from Biden to Harris. They still, aren't they? They haven't figured it out. They don't have a game plan. They're just throwing things at the wall and seeing was sticking and nothing sticking at all, and I think going into
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Antonio Newton: the time where we're so close into the election
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Antonio Newton: man you had, you should have had this figured out yesterday, like yesterday, like this is is way too late in the game, and and I've told you this before in our conversation. If Harris pulls off this win, Biden will go down as one of the the biggest and most successful political alley-oops that I think I've ever witnessed in my lifetime, because the timing
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Antonio Newton: of this situation, and when the switch happened
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Antonio Newton: it could really fall either way. And so far
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Antonio Newton: it's looking like it's falling on the right side.
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Emmanuel Wilder: It's it has, it has. And
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Emmanuel Wilder: when you, when you look at the polls, so one of the things I was looking at before we hopped on is where we are sitting at from a poll perspective. Yeah.
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Emmanuel Wilder: now, you're you know, most of these polls I'm looking at. The dates have happened between September 11th and the 3rd and the 13.th So 2 days, you know. So it's after the debate.
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Emmanuel Wilder: ABC. News has her up. 4 Yahoo news has her up. 4, you know. Data for progress has her up. 4 morning consult has her up 5,
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Emmanuel Wilder: and the New York Post has her up 3. Now the New York post was the 10th and the 11.th
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Emmanuel Wilder: But that's and sorry. And then there's 1 more Atlas Intel has trump up by 3.
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Emmanuel Wilder: Those are really significant, because in a lot of these polls there's usually a sampling error somewhere.
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Antonio Newton: Yeah, between.
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Emmanuel Wilder: Between 3 to 4%. Yeah. So to pretty much have her, even even if the margin of error swung the other way.
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Emmanuel Wilder: That's problematic. Now.
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Antonio Newton: That is.
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Emmanuel Wilder: I think, the key that we have to remember, and that our listeners, and even we ourselves, we have to keep in mind. These polls are great.
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Emmanuel Wilder: But if all of these people that you called and talked to were in California, it doesn't matter if all of these people that you called and talked to in Texas. It doesn't matter. It's going to come down to a handful of States, and we'll we'll hop into that a little bit later. A handful of states. And I mean, if we're being frank, it's gonna come down to a handful of counties and a handful of states for how this is going to go.
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Emmanuel Wilder: But going back to the preparedness that is now an issue, that the Harris campaign is going to start struggling with because I think people want to know what are your plans as well. Yeah. And those are slowly starting to come out. But I think people now want to know now, like we've all accepted. Trump is who who he is, you know, as a person Kamala is who she is as a person. But what are we going to do?
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Emmanuel Wilder: Policy-wise that is going to to help us?
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Emmanuel Wilder: And
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Emmanuel Wilder: we we didn't get this in a debate. And nor should we really get all the detail. You know. Policy is complex.
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Emmanuel Wilder: and I think it is hard to in a 90 min period where you're supposed to be splitting that time.
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Emmanuel Wilder: half and half with you and your opponent so essentially 45 min to try to get through complex policy. That's hard.
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Antonio Newton: She was smart in doing and skirting it in hindsight, you know. You look. And you say, Okay, well, you didn't answer the question. But I think when it to your point, when you have 45 min to appeal to the people, and there's a potential that you will not get this opportunity to be side by side or split screen with your opponent. I think it was smart to try not to dive too much into policy, but from a preparation perspective.
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Antonio Newton: With this short amount of time
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Antonio Newton: that information needs to be rolling out fast, and I feel like, if if there's not enough time for it to roll out fast, but be thoughtful and accurate, and what it wants to accomplish. You're you're essentially
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Antonio Newton: you know, it's almost like being at work, and you know you got that deadline. It's like, all right, you're rushing, trying to put it out before this deadline. But you know, if you had the time that you needed to prepare for it, it would be a lot more it would be a better quality. It would be more thought out. And I think that's the issue that the Harris campaign is going to start running into
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Antonio Newton: from a preparation standpoint. You just don't have time to get all the details now from a common American from a common
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Antonio Newton: man. Perspective. How many people truly
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Antonio Newton: Outside of that, people aren't divulging into these policies to a great extent. But then you do have the people that will that will turn it and flip it, and then that becomes a problem for you as well too.
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Emmanuel Wilder: Yeah. And then, you know, just to quickly hit on 2 of the policy things that we heard from them. 1st starting with with
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Emmanuel Wilder: And that projection on Gdp is somewhere to be a half a percent to a full percent due to the labor shortages in major sectors. We're talking about agriculture and production.
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Antonio Newton: remember down. And it makes me think about when Trump said it. 1st of all, it sound wow! When he said it. And you know, when he said it, they were like, Are you gonna go door to door? And he kind of was like, Yeah, like we got to. And it's like
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Antonio Newton: dude that sounds insane, and I don't know if you remember, down in Florida a couple of years ago. But do you remember where there was some talk about some policy going on with the Santa's, where they were, gonna do something similar about it. And then, next thing you know, all these building projects were like.
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Antonio Newton: Is being done by some of these people that are here, you know, illegally and all of them aren't bad people. Now, I agree.
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Emmanuel Wilder: I mean, unless we forget the the issue with Iline Gonzalez, years and years and years ago, like, how many of these families. Are you getting ready to break up because this child has been born here in the United States so legally an American cool? I'm gonna deport both of your parents
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Emmanuel Wilder: cool. All right. So this is what we're going to do. What's your plan for that, child? Yeah, like, what like, please think beyond the policy, you know.
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Antonio Newton: you know. This goes to a point I was making, and I think you made this as a key for Harris, where you talked about that empathy. But how trump just lacks it.
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Antonio Newton: you know you have to think beyond that. Now, again, an issue that we have to get control over. Most certainly.
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Antonio Newton: But to to go about it in an inhumane way, and and cause more headache and more hurt from a
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Emmanuel Wilder: And and it's like, what are we? What is the issue we're trying to get? Get a hold of here? Yeah, like, because is it. Would you have a problem with the immigrants if they came over legally.
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Emmanuel Wilder: Like, like, what are the what's the true issue? We're trying to get to.
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Emmanuel Wilder: So I I think that that's that has the issue around. Immigration has been an issue, I want to say, goes back to
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Emmanuel Wilder: either late in Bill Clinton's term, or really early, and President Bush's term, where the ability of people to be able to come freely back across over the border that door that I think was called a revolving door and and stuff. I've read about it that was stopped. So people came in and and they're like, well, we're here. We can't. If we go back out we may not be able to get back in. So we're gonna stay here. So
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Emmanuel Wilder: do we need to handle it. Yes.
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Emmanuel Wilder: lest we all forget that we were really really close to a bipartisan solution on this before it was tanked. Yep.
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Antonio Newton: When they brought it up in a debate, and they were like, Hey, look, you know, we had a we had something, and that's and I've always been of the mindset. If if we can't solve the problem completely. If we can at least take steps to improve the situation.
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Antonio Newton: That would be of the better mindset than to say, Oh, we can't fix it a hundred percent. Well, we ain't doing nothing at all, and I and I would have loved him to address that. Because why did you kill this? Now we can say, and I have the opinion that he wanted it to be something that he could run on. And I I am of the complete mindset that that was the case. But that goes back to show you
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Antonio Newton: that you would rather be able to run on an issue.
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Antonio Newton: then be a part of the solution. And I really think that this could have benefited Trump had he said, you know what this is an issue, and I want to. I want to be a part of the solution. If if every time that I've been at being a job or any organization. If there's an issue.
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Antonio Newton: you're always looked at in a more positive light when you want to be a part of the solution versus putting a microphone to the problem. And I felt like he could have really, that could have been a plus for him
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Emmanuel Wilder: showcase a a some level of bipartisanship of him, saying, hey, I you know I was reading through what was coming through. So I called, you know, the the representatives that I had close relationships with. And I said, Yes, I he could have looked like a kingmaker. Yeah. Yeah. And and, said he, this is where we're at.
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Antonio Newton: and I've missed that about American politics that we can be on 2 different sides of the aisle. But when it comes to certain things, and mainly when it comes to the American people. If we have an opportunity to work together, let's work together. But I think that that would go against the whole
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Antonio Newton: fiber and foundation of what Maga is Maga is not? There is no bipartisan in Maga. It's either you ride with us
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Antonio Newton: or you're out the door. You we're done with you, you know, and I feel like that. That. Unfortunately, that's why this movement. Well, not unfortunately, fortunately. Excuse me. This movement, I think, will will die out. It'll come back again. History repeats itself.
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Antonio Newton: but I think it'll eventually die out because there is no lifeline to
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Emmanuel Wilder: Absolutely absolutely.
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Emmanuel Wilder: Jay ZI don't know if you know.
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Antonio Newton: Man. Listen, I would. And, man, this is what trump got to stop doing. Man.
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Antonio Newton: he reminds me of that person that wakes up in the middle of night with a parched mouth, and grabs a glass of water off the nightstand and happened to grab his phone. You know, the phone's bright, so he's only got one eye open. And he saw something that came across as a notification and
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Antonio Newton: halfway rented. And and the next day he woke up and was like, Oh, yeah, I read last night. It's like there's no type of diving into these things. He just says whatever comes across, and it's like dude. You can't. You can't be that gullible and be leading the country like
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Antonio Newton: She came out and was like I didn't have any knowledge of this actually happening. I just made the post thinking that you know it. It wasn't gonna go off and take off like this. And now it's like, you know, the thing that you know. You say something on Facebook, and it gets using a presidential debate is just wild and.
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Emmanuel Wilder: Sane.
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Antonio Newton: Same man it's like. But this again, is like we live in an age. Now, Manny, where misinformation is, is like gold, man like it's it's gold. It is a premium
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Antonio Newton: on misinformation. And you know you got a whole nation this this I mean this community. Excuse me in spring. I believe it's Springfield, Ohio.
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Antonio Newton: Man. They got this national spotlight on them.
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Antonio Newton: you know you can. You imagine sitting on your couch, you're Haitian, and you sitting in Springfield, Ohio. You like. Hold on what
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Emmanuel Wilder: The the reaction to it. And it it is the underbelly of America that we see with every every situation like this. So like they're having to cancel schools and close government offices because of bomb threat. Really.
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Emmanuel Wilder: like, okay, so let's let's take off our super peta support hats. I'm just like, hold on! You are willing to blow up buildings or make a call, saying that you're willing to blow up meeting buildings
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Emmanuel Wilder: because somebody is is eating an animal like really like so.
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Emmanuel Wilder: That at a at a minimum is wild. But you are disrupting people's lives.
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Emmanuel Wilder: And for it to be so overwhelmingly. Now.
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Emmanuel Wilder: what what I what I understand is that there have been 9, 1 1 calls. I have not listened to any of them, nor have I gone searching. Maybe, you know, I'll I'll try to do some searching after this to hear the 9 1. 1 calls about geese and dogs.
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Emmanuel Wilder: for the city council, representatives for the police chiefs to all, and to like you, said the person who made the Genesis post.
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Emmanuel Wilder: To say, no, this ain't what it is, and for everyone to keep going, you know. Jd. Vance was talking earlier this morning, and he's like, I'm hearing it from my constituents.
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Emmanuel Wilder: But like.
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Emmanuel Wilder: are you? Fact? Checking it like? And how are you hearing this? So it's like, Oh, yes, I I'm just a random person, I'm you know, giving a press briefing or like, are you overhearing? People talk about it
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Antonio Newton: within the past couple of days, that he was saying that, you know, hey? If we have to create stories to get a spotlight on the immigrant issue, then so be it. And it's like that's that's that's the wrong way to go about it, you know.
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Emmanuel Wilder: It's going to be interesting. Yeah, it's going to be very interesting about seeing how this plays out. So
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Emmanuel Wilder: this will be over, and we can move on to the next crisis. But so my question for you, jeez, is.
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Antonio Newton: I think that she should definitely do some more interviews. I think she should definitely, you know. Not.
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Antonio Newton: you know, high, I'm not. I'm gonna use the phrase, hide but hide behind the rallies. They're they're gonna be booming. They're going to be lit every. It's gonna be a great time. But we need you to get out in front of the American people. I would love to see her do some town halls, if possible.
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Antonio Newton: Just something to get in front of the American people, and really submit herself, and what she wants to do, and who
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Antonio Newton: I think the thing for me is between what I, what I what I think he should do and what he's gonna do.
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Antonio Newton: But let's be honest with the poll numbers that you just said earlier. We can understand. Trump is trump is tight, you know he he's super tight right now, and I'm sure he's got people in his ear, telling him to go one way and trump is a very he's got a bit of an ego, and he's he's tough, so he he feels like that. He is
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Antonio Newton: Honestly, I think he's going to be even more unhinged, and I think we're going to witness him unravel even more as time gets close.
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Emmanuel Wilder: You know. I think when I look at the situation, what I expect, I think you you hit all of those keys, and for our listeners that are not in any of the following States. If you are not in Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, or Georgia.
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Emmanuel Wilder: It's highly unlikely, that I expect, though, these next 50 days that there is going to be, they're going to live in these States. Yeah, you know, live on the that plane, live on that bus.
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Emmanuel Wilder: and really just trying to to work round games there, I think, for Kamala one of her big things that she's got to do. She's got to keep raising money because they gotta keep doing the calls. They if the focus.
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Emmanuel Wilder: I think this is going to be the focus on on which campaign is at some point it's going to completely stop about really trying to convert voters. I think when you have national town halls, that's that's when the focus is is really to try to convert voters.
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Emmanuel Wilder: Otherwise it's all about turnout. How do you get your people off the couch into the polls and really trying to drive that turnout? And with us being 50 days away, you know a key thing that I think everyone needs to pay attention to is is votes. Places are gonna start voting.
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Antonio Newton: It has. The Supreme Court said that.
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Antonio Newton: Do you know, when it's going to start back up.
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Emmanuel Wilder: I don't know. I don't know but we'll we'll we'll get that that we'll get that for next. Go around. But I would assume that if they're go they already have to strip it out. They're waiting on the process of reprinting all of these ballots and whatnot
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Emmanuel Wilder: but the the why things start to get so interesting is that this week
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Emmanuel Wilder: States are going to start voting. So September 19th Pennsylvania
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Emmanuel Wilder: is going to be one of those States that start where early voting begins.
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Emmanuel Wilder: and I think that makes sense. Why, you saw the debate being held there. Kamala did another rally there like they're going.
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Emmanuel Wilder: If you live in the State of Pennsylvania and you have a desire to see a Presidential candidate.
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Emmanuel Wilder: You could see it. Yeah, that it there's going to be ample opportunities, and then, on the 23rd Minnesota, South Dakota, and Wyoming will start heading towards the polls. Now
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Emmanuel Wilder: Minnesota slated to go Democrat, South Dakota, Wyoming, are slated to go Republican, so no real big shockers there for those 2.
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Emmanuel Wilder: But as these States start hitting the polls, you know, it's it's going to get real interesting.
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Antonio Newton: I definitely agree. And I think that you're gonna see a lot of
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Antonio Newton: a lot of money spending to your point.
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Antonio Newton: Kamala needs that money to keep coming in.
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Antonio Newton: There's no way that you're going to be able to do what you need to do in these States without money.
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Emmanuel Wilder: Not at all.
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Antonio Newton: Money's not gonna help you win.
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Antonio Newton: It's not gonna guarantee you an election, but it sure will help. They sure will help you.
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Emmanuel Wilder: Absolutely.
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Antonio Newton: Definitely think they're going to be camping out in these places, and I would love to see how North Carolina
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Antonio Newton: it's gonna turn out
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Antonio Newton: I would love to see how Georgia
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Antonio Newton: turns out come into play.
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Antonio Newton: I think that'll be pivotal, especially when you look at.
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Antonio Newton: How certain local government races are playing out.
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Emmanuel Wilder: Yeah.
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Antonio Newton: I I'd be interested to see how they look. And I think, you know, the the pollsters. And the map experts have been thrown around a different bunch of scenarios. So I'd be, I'd be glad to see how these things play out. And you know, what's gonna be that that hail Mary shot. That's gonna get that person over the finish line.
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Emmanuel Wilder: Yeah, absolutely. And for all you all listening, we're don't. Don't! Don't be too sad. We gonna we're gonna throw on our map expert hats here in a little bit and start breaking, breaking down. How we see this map could go. But
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Emmanuel Wilder: you know, with, with that being said, I want to thank everyone for for hopping on and listening to this 1st episode. We appreciate it, and we we hope to bring y'all more education and comedy along the way, you know we we can't frown. We can't frown through it all, and if it's gonna be bad oh, well, we can laugh our way through it.
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Antonio Newton: Yeah, we'll we'll laugh while it's going down.
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Emmanuel Wilder: Thank you all so much, and we'll catch you guys next time.
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Antonio Newton: Alright!
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Emmanuel Wilder: All right, peace.