Pandemonium and Predictions: Inside Election 2024

In this high-stakes episode of Pardon the Politics, we dive deep into the intense final week of the 2024 election campaign. Hosts Jeezy and Manny break down the last-minute rallies, key speeches, and strategic blunders from Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. Our in-house reporter, Frank, gives us the on-the-ground scoop from Kamala’s recent rally in North Carolina, while the team analyzes each campaign’s closing arguments and swing-state maneuvers. With hilarious commentary and razor-sharp insights, we explore which states could tip the scales on Election Day. Tune in for the episode that takes you right to the finish line!

Transcript

Jeezy: Hello, world welcome to part in the politics. Podcast season one episode 8. I'm your co-host jeezy along with my partner in politics, Manny say hello to the people, Manny.
Manny: What's going on? Everyone glad to be back. Episode 8.
Jeezy: The episode. Yes, sir, yes, sir, indeed, man, how you feeling how you feeling.
Manny: Man. I'm doing well, doing well, man, it was a great week busy week, but good week, you know
Manny: we, you know, I think we share ups and downs with the pod. You know about everything that's going on, and this has been one of our best weeks for the pod. So definitely appreciate all the love that we've gotten from everyone across the nation and overseas. We appreciate it. We're feeling it again, you know. Thank you. Thank you. We wouldn't be. Do we do this because we enjoy it. But we also do it for you all. So thank you guys so much for for tuning in, and liking and sharing.
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Jeezy: the pod has been a lot social media wise and for us to still be able to do the numbers that we've been able to do, and to have the the feedback and the involvement of our listeners. It just speaks to the work that we have done and and just how great of a community community that we're building for this podcast and we are grateful for that, so continue continue to share, to follow what we do have, and.
Manny: We got some we got some more coming from y'all. We'll talk about this.
Manny: you know, near the end of the episode. But please continue.
Jeezy: Yes, please, because it definitely means a lot to us. So with that being said, guys, we're going to go ahead and jump right into the episode in our 1st segment of the pod is going to be the final week. As you all know, we are in the last lap
Jeezy: of this election season.
Manny: Pray.
Manny: God.
Jeezy: Man. Listen, let me tell you.
Jeezy: the content has been like Christmas. It just keeps on giving, and we are finally at that moment now where it's time to time to race to the ballots. So
Jeezy: in this this past week, in the final week of this election cycle, we've seen some moves that have been made by both candidates, by Big Mahler, and by and by trump.
Jeezy: that they have been trying to do their best to get that final push to get that final rally to get those few folks that they may not have had before trying to get them to the polls, to hopefully get them over the
Jeezy: of the finish line of 270. So the 1st thing we want to talk about is this week we saw on the 29th we saw
Jeezy: Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris. Excuse me at the ellipse in Washington, DC. And if you're familiar with the ellipse in Washington, DC. This was the site, or the location rather, where Trump addressed his supporters before the attack on the Capitol on January 6.th
Jeezy: So I think that this was very strategic
Jeezy: of her doing this
Jeezy: and her reason for doing this, as I'm sure you guys can imagine, is she wanted to 1st give her closing arguments. But to give a contrast of leadership. The last time we saw that site we saw something very divisive, something that you may question whether that was leadership from someone to hold the office of President, so she used this site to try to
Jeezy: give a very sharp contrast between her
Jeezy: and Donald Trump.
Manny: Yeah, so.
Manny: and I think she did. You know, I think her goal was to be. If I'm thinking as a campaign person, I'm thinking about somebody of like what I'm getting ready to do. What I'm surprised that even at the time of recording, I've not seen yet. Is someone doing a mashup of the videos of the backgrounds of both of them.
Manny: I haven't also seen seen crowd views because.
Jeezy: Yeah.
Manny: 75,000 people is a crap ton of people.
Jeezy: That is a lot of people man.
Manny: And DC. Can't really move a lot of people. But that's still a lot of people in one area. But I can tell you one thing, I bet you they have security. There.
Jeezy: Oh! I bet you they had.
Manny: Security here.
Jeezy: They were not playing no games whatsoever, and I've seen a couple of aerial views. I believe they look like they came from a drone, perhaps.
Jeezy: But to your point 75 people were a lot. I believe that the number before they were talking was that Big Mala had planned for it to be about 29,000.
Jeezy: Then, as word started spreading, I think she bumped it up to 40, 45,000,
Jeezy: and then it ended up being over 75,000.
Manny: Yeah.
Jeezy: So I think that she got her point across as far as to bring the crowd out to show that contrast in her closing argument.
Jeezy: I think that she did. Okay.
Jeezy: I think that she had some moments that she probably could have
Jeezy: hit a home run on making that contrast a little bit stronger.
Jeezy: but overall, I think that
Jeezy: she did it. She did a good job, and I think it was very smart strategically from her team.
Jeezy: from her
Jeezy: to make this move, and almost kind of sense that as you saw it sitting at home picturing her being that leader in the in the White house. So I think that it was a home run as far as seizing that opportunity and moment, and trying to
Jeezy: trying to capitalize on.
Manny: And what's interesting about it is, I think now that we're at the end. And for her, essentially what we're 3 and a half 4 months into. We finally now like kind of know her 5 point agenda. And that's around, you know the economy and price, gouging and taxes housing being more affordable and women's rights. So I think she's finally kind of nailed that down. And I think that is the message that we've seen essentially
Manny: going back to the Houston rally to now, and probably throughout the last remaining days. Or when you guys hear this podcast tomorrow, that's pretty much what her message is going to be kind of working through that.
Manny: Yeah.
Jeezy: And I think, man, I think I have the sense at least.
Jeezy: that I feel as though she's settling in a little bit. You know, this has been a very rocky road, as we've talked on previous episodes, and I think that she's kind of getting a little bit of a footing. She's kind of settling in just a little bit and trying to kind of, you know. Find that pitch find that way that she thinks that will resonate a little bit more with the American people. I'm not saying that it's a hundred percent, but I think that she's getting there.
Manny: I don't think it's settling in as much as it is. This is over
Manny: in about 3, 4 days.
Jeezy: Yeah.
Manny: Like, so might as well just put it all out there. Let's just go ahead and pound through it. I know what I need to say. I know what I need to not say, and I'm not going to deviate from this, and I think that's probably a little bit more what it is, you know, not denoting that she she's not getting better at her message either way, but I think it's just that last push she's like I'm here. I might as well just drive to the drive to the finish, because, as a candidate like
Manny: you're you're coming up on election day you're exhausted.
Manny: Oh, you're you're exhausted.
Manny: And
Manny: yeah, I think she's just trying to trying to trying to finish strong finish Strong. And I think that's from both sides, you know. I think you could see it in trump
Manny: trump a little as he's starting to finish wrapping up these last couple of rallies, he started. You can see he's starting to
Manny: rally-esque in the same way. He's just like this is what it's going to be. So let me go ahead and push through to the end and try to get across the finish line.
Jeezy: Well I know that both of them would love to have a nap when all this is over with cause.
Manny: Let me tell you.
Manny: let me tell you, the day after I ran and lost that next day.
Manny: just laden hotel.
Jeezy: Long time.
Manny: Right.
Jeezy: Just slip.
Manny: Slept, had room service, and I was sulking too, so like.
Jeezy: Yeah, yeah.
Manny: But go ahead and bring it. Bring me up this this room service. Yeah, let me get 2 sides of bacon.
Manny: You're staying in bed like
Manny: I.
Jeezy: I'm sure that both of them could could use use a nap.
Manny: Well, especially, and especially trump, because let's not forget.
Jeezy: He's.
Manny: The man is old, the man is old.
Jeezy: No.
Manny: He's tired man.
Jeezy: I think that's why he missed that handle trying to get in that garbage.
Manny: Hello!
Jeezy: Fire Manny
Jeezy: novels a little closer to what it really was, and.
Manny: That they said that depth perception starts to get a little shaky.
Jeezy: You ain't have no sleep, man.
Jeezy: little delirious, but you know, I think, that she she capitalized on that moment, and in that same
Jeezy: in that same fashion. We had trump that had an event on Sunday, the 27, th at Madison Square Garden, and this was an event that he had, that basically was the start of his final tour leading up to the election, and he had some, some high profile. People, if you will, that were in attendance that spoke from
Jeezy: the Ufc. President, Dana White to his good Buddy Tucker Carson to
Jeezy: Lee Greenwood, and even Hokamania was was in the building.
Manny: Yes.
Manny: everything about the Madison Square Garden rally for me
Manny: was weird.
Manny: First, st you're in New York, like, Okay, New York. New York's a Blue State. There is no chance that New York is going red in any capacity like there is no pathway. There's no big Senate race that could. All of a sudden flip like. So that's a contrast between him doing something in New York versus Kamala doing something in Texas. I get that. It's his home state. So that that's the 1st piece that I saw. Weird. The second piece is the lineup.
Manny: Oh, yeah, very, very male, dominated.
Jeezy: -
Manny: Man. Bro, energy, like, yeah, yeah. And I'm
Manny: and I'm like, okay.
Manny: men usually vote Republican like, especially white males vote Republican most of the time
Manny: that statistical fact, no matter where you go, look at it. But I mean
Manny: 53, 54% of the electorate is female.
Jeezy: Bingo!
Manny: So I'm like
Manny: you.
Manny: What we.
Jeezy: Trying to accomplish in this.
Manny: Couldn't find now
Manny: denote. We're also at the part of the elections where we're not changing minds.
Jeezy: Yeah, every.
Manny: Has made their decision. If someone walks up to me today and says I'm an undecided voter, I'm like, no, you're not undecided. You just don't want to make a decision in your brain. You've already decided who you want to win. You just don't want to make a decision. It's 2 different things here.
Jeezy: Yeah. And I think that that from what I read
Jeezy: the event was strategically timed. As early voting was beginning in New York. So he went on that on the 27, th when early voting was starting in New York with the goal in mind that he was going to appeal to these urban voters, and also that he was going to generate significant media attention. And I think that was probably the primary goal. If if that's what he wanted to do. He definitely did it because this thing was talked about.
Manny: And.
Jeezy: But I don't understand the approach of trying to appeal to the urban voters as if there was going to be enough approach to swing anything in his favor.
Manny: In not enough urban voters in New York.
Manny: In Pennsylvania and White. There's just that's
Manny: from all the data I've seen, that's not where you're gonna run up the number. So it
Manny: I don't know. Here's 1 thing that you will never take away. You can never take away from trump. Yeah. One of the biggest reasons he beat. He beat Hillary
Manny: is because he went places that she didn't go
Manny: and that they weren't projecting him to go
Manny: trump has historically not been afraid to get out there to hostile areas, and even though his crowds are very focused on him, that's any political rally. But he's not afraid to go these places, so
Manny: I can understand it. MSG. Is a historic venue, so anytime you can do a rally there.
Manny: Sure, great. But the the part that I push back on that is that media attention, sir. You're the. You're the former president, and you're the current nominee
Manny: for a major party running for President. And in general you're a billion, a well-known media billionaire. Well, real estate 1 billion billionaire also known for your being a media personality. The cameras are going to follow.
Jeezy: Gonna be there already. Yeah.
Manny: Only reason you became president in the 1st place, is because you got in the billions of free media because the media followed you around like a puppy.
Manny: Yeah, like. So again, I don't get why he went there, but
Manny: good good for him.
Manny: Made me think.
Jeezy: It makes me think, Manny.
Jeezy: when we get into this last, you know these single digit days into the election. You know what is the thought process between both of the the campaigns.
Jeezy: Right? I don't think that this is you know. If I if I flip it and go to go to the Harris campaign. I don't think strategically this would be something that they would
Jeezy: do for themselves, like they've been very strategic, and where she's been. We talked about it before, you know. When she went to the Houston rally we knew that that was going to be probably her final stop there. There weren't going to be 3 or 4 days that she was going to visit back there. That's why it was such a big event with Beyonce and Kelly. And she was like, Okay, the numbers, the data looks like that. This may be we may have something here, you know already, may have something here. We're going to hit it as hard as we can the day that we're there, and we're done.
Jeezy: you know, to me that's strategic.
Jeezy: Him going
Jeezy: here to your point. I just didn't get it. I felt like his time could have been spent in so many other places
Jeezy: where there is slim margins
Jeezy: that he could have really used the time.
Manny: I can think of 7 places.
Manny: No, no.
Jeezy: Let me, as playing both sides. Now do we? At the end of this, when all this is said and done, and depending on which way the coin falls? Do we look back at some of these things and say, Hmm! That probably hurt you.
Jeezy: that that you probably could have, instead of being in New York, you could have been in the 7 other places.
Jeezy: Is there a possibility that we can look back at some of these things and say that that was a mistake. That was probably not a great strategic analysis of where the campaign should have went. It could have potentially caused him.
Jeezy: You know the the the election.
Manny: Oh, 10,000% easily. It's any candidate will look back at their campaign and been like, Oh, I could have done this better. I could have done this better.
Manny: But I
Manny: I think you just make the you make the call. That you think is right. At the end of the day. You know, he has a team that's just sitting there and making the. And I'm not saying sitting there as if they're not doing anything. But they're gonna sit there. They're gonna look at the data. They're gonna make a decision.
Manny: And you know.
Manny: here, here's why I also think it. It makes sense to do it at Madison Square Garden.
Manny: How do you counter
Manny: Kamala Harris doing a rally
Manny: at the place that year? One of your most notable rallies happened.
Manny: Okay, what? What's what's a what's a big name? Venue Madison Square Garden.
Manny: Okay.
Manny: at. And T. Stadium. You're not going to fill that out. So not there, where? Where else really Statue of Liberty can't, can't really do a rally there like what other notable venue can you use.
Jeezy: Yeah.
Manny: Nationally, and I can't really think of one. So that that's also why I could see why you would do. Why, you would take the risk and do it here.
Manny: But then here's the thing about the rally that a guy. And we talked about this last episode
Manny: number one rule
Manny: of surrogates.
Manny: and especially in this last week.
Manny: do no harm.
Jeezy: Do no harm, brother.
Manny: It would like.
Jeezy: No harm.
Manny: If you're if you're not going to help me, do more, do no harm, man, and.
Jeezy: That was not the case at this. At this event.
Manny: Not at all, not at all.
Jeezy: Not the case at this event.
Jeezy: for those of you who do not know, as I'm sure you do. There was a lot of talk around this Madison Square Garden event primarily by a comedian.
Jeezy: I believe his name is Tony Hinchcliff, made some jokes that were not received very well, and one of them of which was
Jeezy: his joke. In regards to Puerto Rico.
Jeezy: I'm referring to them, if I'm not mistaken as a floating pile of garbage
Jeezy: and that was not
Jeezy: that was, that was not well.
Manny: But like.
Jeezy: That was outsmart.
Manny: Like I'm listening to it. I'm listening to the playback of it, and I'm hearing him lead up to it. I'm like, is he? And I forget the official name of it. I mean, there is a very large
Manny: trash
Manny: area of I believe it's the Atlantic Ocean, where all the currents just cycle all the trash to I was like, why.
Manny: oh, it's a Puerto Rico joke!
Jeezy: Yeah.
Manny: Not.
Jeezy: Okay.
Manny: Horrible joke.
Manny: I wouldn't have done it.
Jeezy: And that's the thing that I don't understand, Manny, is that in a moment where you're in the final lap leading in again in the single digit days leading up to the election night.
Jeezy: This just didn't seem smart at all, and even for Trump to come out and say, Oh, I had no clue, you know. I didn't know who was speaking. I mean, that might be true. He may not know.
Manny: I think there is a I think there's a 50% chance that he has no clue. Who Tony is. I think that is true.
Manny: but I think this goes to his team. Because what kind of preparation are you giving him? Because maybe so, one of the things that we heard in the days after this is that? Oh, well, he's known for roasting people. He talks about everyone, and the instructions he kind of got was just, you know like, do it like you do your show. But you're talking about me like.
Manny: why are you sending a roast comedian up there to just say, Hey, freestyle. It do what you need to do, hey? Like we need.
Jeezy: We need you to rally the people. Go do the worst job you possibly can do.
Manny: But but think about it in that. So I take the step back and I put it in. The team's like thought process. He makes a joke. Crowd cheers everyone in the back's like, Oh, yeah, that probably landed. Man, that ain't land that ain't land
Manny: like at all.
Jeezy: It was, it was not received
Jeezy: well at all. He made numerous jokes. There was a joke he made where he basically roasted a black guy that was in the crowd, and and said something to the to the liking of they. They carved watermelon melons together.
Manny: Right.
Jeezy: You know this? This was horrible, whether Trump knew about it or not, just from a team perspective in this. In this moment.
Jeezy: You don't. You don't need that. And I think that trump had a moment where you know he could have just said, Hey, look
Jeezy: this, we you know my team, you know, set this up, and whether he knew it or not, he could have just owned up to it, and said, Hey, look! That's not what we're about those comments, you know. They're not a reflection of our campaign, or what we would like to portray to the American people, but but he in himself. Can't do that.
Manny: Yeah, yeah, I was, I was like, at at what point since 2016? Well, 2015, really, have you heard this man offer any
Manny: any degree of apology, like.
Jeezy: I've said an apology. He probably would explode in a cosmic disk just a puff of.
Manny: Be like, oh.
Jeezy: Putting up a bag of cheeto puffs.
Manny: But.
Jeezy: Orange dust everywhere.
Manny: Right. It's rough. And I think this raises the question around. This is.
Manny: how much should we hold the camp? Should we hold a campaign
Manny: to the
Manny: the words of a surrogate speaker.
Jeezy: Hmm.
Manny: Because also what we heard, what? No less than 24, or 48 h. Again
Manny: Joe Biden on on the call.
Manny: and and calling people garbage, and I'm
Manny: you know. They tried to clean it up very quickly, but like too late cats out of the bed, and and Joe A,
Manny: let's start at the top. He is also old.
Jeezy: Say it! Say it again, baby.
Manny: Joe Biden is old like. Why, we why, y'all keep interviewing and talking to these people past 6 o'clock pm.
Manny: He
Manny: and one of the things I said said to to Jeez, and my boys afterwards is, y'all we are not going to hear anything from Joe from now until the election's over.
Manny: I still I ain't heard, not a not a not a press conference that they, Kamala and team went and grabbed Joe and put him in a situation room and said, You stay here until after this election.
Jeezy: He locked in that basement for real, for real. Now.
Manny: Brother.
Jeezy: There you go!
Manny: It's like nutman cheese sandwiches.
Manny: fruit loops just to keep him.
Jeezy: Do you? I've been nice.
Manny: I don't want to hear.
Jeezy: I don't call you.
Manny: Don't call. Don't text. Don't send a carrier pigeon. No smoke signal. I don't want to hear from you, Jeff.
Jeezy: You don't talk to your grandpa at 9 o'clock at night. Why, y'all keep talking to Jim.
Manny: And here's why, and it's the
Manny: it's the the dichotomy of where we are politically like for for Kamala and her campaign, and I'll blanket. It Democrats across the board. A lot of the campaigns are like we are better people than them.
Jeezy: Yeah, yeah.
Manny: So when you run that kind of campaign, saying, we're better people when when gaffes like this happen.
Manny: On the Republican side. It's just like, Oh, well, they're Republican. So whatever. But on Democrat you've kind of done this holier than thou play of your position.
Manny: and and now it comes back so. But both of these situations, I think, lead back to the the question, how much is the candidate responsible for the statements of a surrogate.
Manny: and
Manny: you know
Manny: I don't. I don't know. I guess guess we'll find out on Tuesday, but
Manny: but it's weird like, what do you do with that? Like? Okay, you can come out and apologize. And I take that back. We we did see a level of apology from trump
Manny: because he got his behind down to Arizona and New Mexico.
Manny: With much haste.
Jeezy: Bruh. He got down there and went. He got down there and went to work.
Manny: You say, hey? Y'all y'all know I love y'all. I love y'all.
Jeezy: Man.
Manny: I love y'all here who can vote.
Jeezy: Yep. Yep.
Manny: If you can't vote, you gotta leave. But if you can vote I love you. You're my people.
Jeezy: All of y'all that can vote y'all, my people, man, he! He definitely went on, the offense offense. Excuse me to to get this thing cleaned up, and we'll talk about that in a little bit.
Manny: He did both of those offense and off.
Jeezy: That's right. He he did a number man you.
Jeezy: as we've always said here, at the podcast. One of the
Jeezy: he'll give us as much crazy content as long as he's breathing.
Jeezy: We got.
Manny: That's something for.
Jeezy: To come to trump man. So you know this wasn't received. Well, and we'll see how this plays out, and how this has an effect on the Latino and Puerto Rico Puerto Rican vote. We've seen that a lot of celebrities that were Puerto Rican came out and
Jeezy: endorsed Kamala. After this one of them were an endorser of trump, even went to one of his rallies, and trump had mistaken him for for a woman.
Manny: I forgot that happened.
Manny: Wild, dude.
Jeezy: And he came out and spoke and said that he was now endorsing
Jeezy: Kamala Harris. So
Jeezy: again, as election night approaches, we will see where those Latino votes, those Puerto Rican votes go, and how they will respond to what has happened.
Jeezy: And as far as final moves. In the week we got a surprise here in our great State of North Carolina, where Kamala Harris held a rally on the 30.th Here in Raleigh, North Carolina, and we have a special treat for you here
Jeezy: at the pod. Our producer who gives us who gives the listeners the great content that you're listening to, and he makes sure that me and Manny are on our p's and q's with sounding like we're supposed to, and we don't sound crappy. Frank has joined the pod, and we're going to call this segment Frank in the field. So Frank, welcome to the pod man.
Manny: You're welcome.
Frank: And gentlemen, gentlemen, thank you both for having me. Man, I must say it feels a bit
Frank: it feels different. Man being on this side of of the fence. You know what I'm saying. I'm just so used to mixing down the vocals and making sure my guys sound as clean and pristine as possible.
Frank: Here I am getting ready to give some commentary. So, man, it feels good to be here. I appreciate y'all.
Jeezy: Hey, man, welcome! We appreciate you being out in the field. So you got a taste of Kamala's rally that happened in Raleigh so.
Frank: Yeah.
Jeezy: How that went.
Frank: So so 1st of all, just you know, I guess before I even get into that, you know initially, you know my wife and I thought getting there was going to be a logistical nightmare. So we're already
Frank: like, Man, we gotta drop the kiddo off. You know. How are we gonna get there and brave, you know.
Frank: peak, rush hour traffic here in Raleigh to even get to that side of town to catch the rally. So you know there was a lot of going into that. So we weren't even sure if we were going to even be able to go. But, you know, we were able to get there. And, man, it was everything that I you know. I it was everything opposite of what I initially thought in terms of getting to the rally man. It was
Frank: a breeze to get there. You know we we get there. We park. That was no issue
Frank: getting inside of. I believe it was at the Walnut Creek amphitheater, you know, was no issue at all. And so but man, the energy, the energy fellas as we
Frank: entered into that amphitheater, I mean, just parking
Frank: was electric. I mean, you could really tell that people were fired up and charged up to see and and be a part of this, you know. Historic moment and you know, for me it was my 1st time, you know, even going to a political rally of that magnitude, and you know it was. It was one of those things where I said, hey, listen!
Frank: When it's all said and done, I want to be able to say that
Frank: I saw you know what I'm saying. I saw her, and I was able to participate and and be around, and and just get a feel for just kind of what
Frank: this was gonna be about man. So yeah, that that was man. It was. It was something something to behold, for sure. Yeah.
Jeezy: Man, and I think that that's 1 thing that we have heard a lot, and we've even seen
Jeezy: through. I think we all can agree that we've watched our own TV. And you could tell that there's a lot of energy in these
Jeezy: that she's in. But I can only imagine the magnitude, and and we have some content that we will be putting out on our social that you guys will be able to see of Frank being able to attend this this rally. But you could, just even through the videos, can see the energy in this place and just experiencing that. I mean, I could tell just from you describing it, Frank, that what we've seen on TV, what we've seen on social media is
Jeezy: nowhere in comparison to the level of energy that is felt being there physically exactly. I think that that is something that will. Hopefully we'll see how that transpires to the polls, because again, you can get excited all you want to, but you got to show up.
Frank: There you go!
Manny: Nam sign.
Frank: Right.
Manny: Rally sign going to event. That means nothing. If you you haven't cast your ballot, or you haven't made plans to show up Tuesday to cast that ballot.
Frank: Exactly. And it and I'm telling you, man, it was one of those things where you know.
Frank: when we're speaking about these rallies, and just kind of from both sides of the coin. How each campaign is approaching it.
Frank: You could definitely tell that the Harris Walls campaign is very, very
Frank: serious and adamant about saying, Hey.
Frank: we are trying our best to unify
Frank: both sides of the aisle with this thing. I mean, we understand that
Frank: the nation is clearly divided right now, when it comes to a lot.
Frank: We're we're really pushing the the message that hey? No matter where you currently sit.
Frank: you know, Big Mala is saying, hey, I want to be a president for everybody, you know. And it's interesting, because
Frank: that was just really the the. It was really the overall theme, you know, for for her rally because
Frank: there were a lot of people there who were Republicans that were clearly visibly wearing merchandise that said, You know, Republicans for Harris walls and and
Frank: people were saying, party over country. They were chanting that I mean
Frank: clearly, you know, across the venue, and
Frank: you know she even had some former members of
Frank: the Republican party come and speak, and and and I think.
Jeezy: Oh, wow! That's.
Frank: That we have not seen with the trump campaign. At least not that I've seen. I haven't seen no one say that I'm a former Democrat getting ready to, you know.
Frank: support and vote for I feel like.
Jeezy: One we've seen is that with Tusi Gabby.
Manny: Yeah, yeah.
Frank: Okay. Toasty. Okay.
Jeezy: I mean, but but again, not in the magnitude that you know Harris has been able to. I mean, they they kind of have a pretty decent rap sheet, who are endorsing them.
Manny: And I think if you look at Tulsi, where Tulsi is a little bit different than you know a Liz Cheney is. Liz Cheney is still very much a Republican. I'm still a Republican.
Frank: Yes.
Manny: But even in my republicanness I still support Kamala. But Tulsi she's been. She's been.
Jeezy: But say, she left the party, didn't.
Manny: Yeah, I believe she's no longer a member of the party, and if not, she's an independent like. I don't know if she's made the complete switch over. But I believe at minimum she's an independent yeah.
Frank: Yeah, yeah, they. And and that seems to be, you know, the the calling card that they're really, you know, the Harris Walls campaign has leveraged is saying, Hey, listen!
Frank: There are those from, you know, across the aisle that have decided. Listen! We can't afford
Frank: to not put the country over our party differences, because there's a lot at stake. And that was the message, you know. And and you know it was so funny, man, you know, when. Of course you know she had Josh Stein come out there, and of course our current governor, you know a big roy come out.
Frank: Yeah, man. But listen. The venue went crazy. When Josh walked out to Petey Pablo's razor.
Jeezy: Oh, man!
Frank: Man. The place went crazy. Man it was. It was insane. I was just like, Okay, this is this is giving me definitely. Obama Circa 2,008 feels with the party that it seems to be just this overall
Frank: sense of of rejuvenation. You know we're all excited that, you know we we finally are at are at the point where we could potentially
Frank: put a lot of what we've had to
Frank: endure over the last, you know, 8 to 12 years behind us. And it it really spoke to
Frank: it really spoke to
Frank: just how
Frank: ready I think a lot of people are to just not only just be beyond
Frank: the the election overall, because I think we're all exhausted. You know what I mean just from the you know. I guess, from having to be in this position. But it it really just, you know. It brought a lot home man, and it was a really good time really good time to see so.
Manny: Dang so so Mark Robinson ain't getting invited to that, either. Then.
Jeezy: Man.
Frank: Oh, no man!
Manny: Mark.
Frank: When I tell you, though, like I like, they spared between Josh Stein and Roy, they didn't spare in immense words when it came to.
Frank: you know, really making sure that there's a clear separation between what we're trying to do for the State and what he's going to do, and and represents for the State man, and I'm telling you it was.
Manny: Let's be clear, he.
Frank: Yeah.
Manny: He's not going to do any of it, because he is not going to be governor like.
Frank: No, I think that's all. But wrapped up, man, I think at this point I'm pretty sure Josh Stein and his his campaign and his crew are just sitting back like, listen.
Frank: we just we just waiting on the ball to drop.
Manny: That's right.
Jeezy: How many, how many, how many lemon pepper wets we want for election night.
Frank: Exactly. Yep, yep.
Jeezy: About to have a party.
Manny: But you know what? And I think that's what. So I remember in 2016, being at Roy Cooper's
Manny: Roy Cooper's
Manny: celebration, and I remember walking into that. So me and my me and several of my friends. We were at another restaurant.
Manny: and we we heard that all of a sudden, that Michigan is what was in play, and up to that point we hadn't thought about that. So we left dinner
Manny: and headed to the the
Manny: who was it? Roy? Not Roy Cooper?
Manny: Oh, man, Pat Mccrory! Sorry, man, I don't forgot.
Jeezy: I mean.
Manny: Name Pat Mccrory's did, and you could feel the energy in the room start shifting.
Frank: Yeah.
Manny: So I think very much.
Manny: Josh Stein's will be the same, because that's locked up. I think it'll be a more of a Kamala Harris watch party. I would actually be shocked that he would do anything separate from the the state party. But
Manny: yeah, the yeah, as as chill as he'll be riding into that. There is going to be some extremely tense moments in in both parties.
Frank: Oh, for sure, for sure. Yeah, yeah, man, yeah. And I mean, you know everyone that I guess you can clearly see out there that rally man was just like, listen, I mean, we're pulling up. And people are saying to me, and and you know they were just like, Hey.
Frank: we are happy to be here.
Frank: We're just happy to be here, you know. We we couldn't wait to get here. You know what I mean, and it's like that kind of
Frank: that kind of energy man and that kind of just. You know that vigor and fire that people kind of have, you know, just being at the point where, you know they're ready to go ahead and get this. Get it underway. And of course, you know, it can be assumed that a lot of those people out there had already early voted, and of course, you know you had. Of course, those who are obviously going to vote on election day. But.
Frank: man, I don't know like I know Nc. Is is still up for grabs state.
Frank: But man, there was nothing about what I saw that rally that
Frank: made me feel like she didn't have a shot.
Jeezy: Yeah.
Frank: At North Carolina. And and yeah, that that's what I think.
Jeezy: I think that's very obvious with you know her attention. She's
Jeezy: she's she's coming back here a couple of times.
Frank: Yeah.
Jeezy: This past Saturday. She she has an event. I think she has one going on this past Sunday, and I'm saying past because of when when our listeners hear this episode, she's pending a lot of attention here, and I believe that she wouldn't be doing so if they weren't seeing something on their side. That's showing them. Hey? North Carolina has a shot.
Manny: And she's and she's coming back the
Jeezy: Oh, she's.
Manny: On Monday.
Jeezy: Yeah. She's.
Manny: Going to be here here in Raleigh on Monday, so the right time, right before the election comes out.
Frank: Not a minute wasted. Yeah.
Jeezy: That she's hosting. That'll be.
Manny: You're listening to this on Monday, you still have an opportunity to go see her here. If you're you're in the Raleigh area, and I wouldn't be shocked if Trump found a way to be back
Manny: here in some capacity before before Tuesday as well.
Frank: Which to me begs the question like, I wonder how much of his movement back and forth throughout the State is reactionary, or is it more of a proactive approach, because clearly she is bouncing in and out.
Frank: I mean, down to the last minute. I, personally didn't think that trump, you know, felt, would feel as though he had to make those kind of moves.
Frank: You know what I mean. So at so last minute, given that, you know, he probably thought that. Oh, I've got this
Frank: wrapped up in terms of you know the the state. But.
Manny: At no point in any of the North Carolina data, I think. Has North Carolina ever really looked like it was going to go either way, since since Vice President Harris became the nominee. Right? I think it's always kind of been like I'm gonna have to work here.
Manny: And I think we'll hit it a little bit more when we when we talk about maps coming up here. But there's some specific reasons. I think he he and her are both here like they are. But we'll we'll break that down here in a little bit.
Manny: for sure.
Frank: Yeah, that that was my, that was my experience at the rally, and you know it was.
Frank: It was a good time, man, so we'll we'll see. We'll see how all this shakes out for sure.
Jeezy: Hey, man, that that is awesome. I'm glad that we had someone a part of the pod being able to go out there and experience that firsthand and give that those details to our listeners. We we appreciate that, Frank. So thank you for Frank. In the field. We might have to get some more Frank in the field.
Manny: Right.
Frank: Yeah. Man. Listen, hey, listen! Any chance I get to step from behind the boards. You know I I
Frank: with it. I'm absolutely with it.
Manny: Just know the mic is always open for you to join us here.
Frank: Hey, Bro.
Jeezy: Always anytime man, Frank. We we appreciate that, brother. Thank you.
Frank: Sir. Thank y'all for having me man.
Manny: Yeah.
Jeezy: Yes, sir, indeed. So
Jeezy: we're just gonna move and and keep wrapping up this this final week topic. So from Frank's experience with her on Wednesday.
Jeezy: Big Mala was on the move again, big Mala putting up big miles.
Manny: Right.
Jeezy: She was in Arizona the next day, and just for those of you who
Jeezy: didn't study a map when you were in school, and don't know where the States are at North Carolina, Arizona are not near each other.
Manny: At all
Manny: at all. 2 completely different sides.
Jeezy: 2 completely different sides. So
Jeezy: the next day she was in Arizona at an event to increase turnout among Latino voters, and I think that again very strategic. For more than one reason. Obviously she needed to be in Arizona, because that is a battleground state, but also I believe that some of the pushback. That trump was getting for his comments in Madison Square Garden also played a part in that, and so she hosted this event that has some of the
Jeezy: local and state officials that were in Arizona that spoke at it. Mark Kelly, a couple of mayors, spoke at it.
Jeezy: and the same day, and this this could be viewed as going to the point that Frank was making about a reactionary the same day Trump was at an event in Arizona as well.
Jeezy: But his event again
Jeezy: went a little little sideways. He attacked Liz Cheney
Jeezy: at this event that he had in Arizona, where he labeled Cheney a war hulk.
Jeezy: and his comments were as follows, I quote that he says she's a Radical war hawk.
Jeezy: Let's put her with a rifle standing there with 9 barrels shooting at her. Okay, let's see how she feels about it. You know, when the guns are trained on her face.
Jeezy: So
Jeezy: trump.
Manny: That's
Manny: I mean, that's the
Manny: if
Manny: it's.
Jeezy: Like you can't.
Manny: Help himself. Sometimes he.
Jeezy: Hey, man.
Jeezy: Cheney ain't even 1st of all, you're not running against Liz Cheney.
Manny: At all.
Jeezy: Kamala, Harris.
Manny: But you know what he.
Jeezy: You ain't my opponent. Why am I talking about you?
Manny: He hates his distractors.
Jeezy: He does.
Manny: He hates them so like you saw it. I was watching an interview with our man Brett Beyer.
Manny: From Fox, and he asked trump point blank. He's like, if you hire all the best you say you hire the best people. You get the best people. He's like, Yeah, I got. You know, I have the greatest people. But you know we have a couple bad apples or bad people that weren't so good.
Manny: and Brett just went down a list like your 1st Secretary of State.
Jeezy: Per.
Manny: Jane Beck, and he's like all of them. Are you really that.
Jeezy: That's not a bad orchard.
Manny: Bruh. It sounds like you're a bad farmer.
Jeezy: Bruh
Jeezy: facts, my.
Manny: Might I inform you that it's the holidays and ups is available late, but
Manny: like there was no need to go at Liz now. Liz was one of the 1st Republicans to be very vocal as an elected Republican, to be very vocal of her displeasure of him, and desire to get him out so like I could see why he has beef, but it was unnecessary again. Do no harm like.
Jeezy: No harm.
Manny: That's that's the rule of your surrogates. But guess what? That's also your rule. Don't don't say anything too crazy. Why, why.
Jeezy: Add that she is also a woman.
Jeezy: And here you go attacking women again. And, as Manny stated earlier in the episode, we have a lot of women that are going to be voting a very high percentage.
Jeezy: You might not want to attack
Jeezy: women or a woman.
Jeezy: When you're in the final stretch of what you are calling an election season.
Manny: And I want to be clear like it's it's not attack attacking a woman from a from a standpoint. Hey? We're attacking her policy like.
Jeezy: Bingo!
Manny: No like you're you're attacking her like there's there's there's place for fair criticism. This
Manny: was not that in any capacity.
Jeezy: Not it
Jeezy: so, as you can imagine, those comments were not received well, in the Arizona Attorney General's office are probing Trump's comments about Liz Cheney and the Arizona Attorney, General Chris Mayers or Myers says, I've already asked my criminal division chief to start looking at the statement analyzing it for whether it qualifies as a death threat under Arizona's laws.
Jeezy: trump.
Manny: You enough legal trouble, man like Bruh.
Manny: So let's just let's very briefly walk down this. What? This could turn worst case scenario for trump, it is viewed
Manny: as a threat.
Manny: It's another State charge. I believe it would be a State charge.
Manny: So say you still win.
Manny: You could go to jail in Georgia.
Manny: and then, when you done, you could get shipped out of Georgia over to Arizona to serve more time like
Manny: trump. I get it your your best defense right now, for all of your legal, for all your legal trouble is to win. But.
Manny: my dude, you are getting in more trouble
Manny: as you go
Manny: is so it was just a while. Unnecessary comment, not helpful, not productive. Yeah, I got you a cheer at a rally. But guess what if you just got votes based on your cheers at the rally.
Manny: Maybe you'd be in better position. But that's not. That's not who's voting.
Manny: It's it's it's moms it's dads of daughters and granddaughters. It's.
Jeezy: You got to think about that man, and that's the long game. Sometimes I feel that trump just doesn't see. It's that tunnel vision of.
Jeezy: I'm trump. I can say this, and it's fine. It's been. It's never been a problem before.
Jeezy: but because it's not a problem before. Don't mean it won't ever be a problem ever and in a time like now, where this election, from what we've been hearing and what we've been told will be of a very slim margin
Jeezy: can't do no harm, man. We might have to put that on the shirt man.
Manny: Do no harm, man do no harm, man.
Jeezy: So that is the final week.
Jeezy: of both of these candidates. As you guys know, once you hear this, podcast. It will be
Jeezy: one more day, and we will be in election night, and that will be a whole. Another ball game. So our next topic, a next segment of the pod is our maps. We're going to talk about where we
Jeezy: believe
Jeezy: that this will fall.
Jeezy: And
Jeezy: it's gonna be. It's gonna be crazy.
Manny: It's gonna be crazy.
Manny: man. So me and Geez went back and forth to how we were going to do this, so y'all could understand it the best, and I think we got it locked down. So we're going to go ahead into it. One thing I do want to hit real quick before we hop into this. Yes, we did talk about potentially talking about the Joe Rogan and the club shay shay, podcast
Manny: we spent time. We listened to them.
Manny: and we didn't feel like there was anything that we hadn't heard before really moved the needle. We do encourage you guys to go ahead and do your own research, but with it, for the sake of time.
Manny: you know we we can. We can be on here for 6 h, but I don't think y'all want us to do this for 6 h. So so we're just gonna move right into the maps. And so what? How we're gonna go gonna go through this for those of you referencing at home? We're not gonna talk about any of the the States that are pretty locked up. So you know, we're not talking about Colorado, New Mexico, Florida, Minnesota.
Manny: Maine, Oregon. We're not talking about states like that. We're gonna focus on really the main 7 that are gonna ultimately decide. So those those states, Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Georgia. And then we're gonna end it with North Carolina.
Manny: so all right. So geez!
Manny: What what state do you want to start with.
Jeezy: We're gonna we're gonna make a circle out of this. So we're gonna start in Arizona.
Manny: All right, ma'am.
Manny: All right. How are you feeling about Arizona?
Jeezy: Well, I think Arizona
Jeezy: in 2020. Biden only won Arizona by 4 10th of a point, roughly, a little over 10,000 votes. When I look at the map.
Jeezy: I think one thing that
Jeezy: will play out for Arizona
Jeezy: is the Border County sitting right south of Arizona, and how they will vote
Jeezy: in this election. I'm sure that the border crisis is a major issue for them, and I think with Biden winning this state by slim margin in 2020 in my map. I actually have it that Harris won't win Arizona. I believe that trump will win Arizona by very, very slim margin.
Manny: So you have trump on Arizona.
Jeezy: I got trump winning Arizona.
Manny: All right.
Manny: I hear you on all that, and
Manny: I
Manny: I think there is enough backlash there.
Manny: you know, on enough stuff and enough energy
Manny: that I think it kind of. I think they're resisted. Here's why I think there's some going to be some resistance to trump picking that up is because of the migration out of California. A good portion of that migration came from California and Arizona, so I believe, even in the border counties. I think it's a great point about that border county.
Manny: What I think ultimately is going to happen is that there is enough growth that we've seen out of Tucson and Tempe, Arizona that will fight that out. So I actually have Arizona going blue
Manny: for Kamala, Harris.
Jeezy: Okay.
Manny: So cool. All right, let's move on north to a state that we both love and hate at the same time the State of Nevada.
Manny: And to anyone listening.
Manny: It's really just Vegas. We have a love, hate, relationship.
Jeezy: Yeah.
Manny: With sin, city.
Jeezy: Been to Vegas, you know, you know.
Manny: You just know. You just know. So what what you got on on Nevada.
Jeezy: In. Well, in Nevada I have Harris winning
Jeezy: that State. Biden won
Jeezy: pretty decent in 2020, with 50.1% of the votes with trump coming in at 47.7. I just feel that it may not be that much of a of a difference, but I think that they will keep that lead, and Harris will win Nevada.
Manny: I'm going to concur with that. I also think that she takes Nevada. I see it in Nevada. I see a lot of the same things that happened with Kamala. Really sorry that happened with Obama, with really forging that strong coalition across the State. So I agree with you that
Manny: I believe Nevada's gonna gonna stay blue as well. Say, hey, our 1st agreement on this.
Jeezy: We agreed on one. There we go.
Manny: Go all right. Now. We're going.
Jeezy: Around to Wisconsin.
Manny: Oh, the land of the cheese!
Jeezy: Yeah. Shout out to Green Bay.
Manny: Man, all right. So so what you got on Wisconsin.
Jeezy: Man. Now, Wisconsin is tough Wisconsin's tough. It was only won by Biden by less than 21,000 votes in 20.
Manny: Yeah.
Manny: and current. The current spread across all the averages have it at point 1
Manny: so it could go either way. It's tight.
Jeezy: Man. I think that it is going to be very tight, tighter than what it was in 2020,
Jeezy: but with some of the polls that we've seen that have come out of the the Minnesota area, the Iowa area. I believe that Harris will win Wisconsin very narrowly.
Manny: Barely. Yeah. I think this is probably one of the the closest coin flips on the map.
Jeezy: Like less than 10,000.
Manny: Easily, easily.
Manny: A fun, a fun point. We'll call it out again right now, as of right now. There's already oh, there's over a hundred 80
Manny: lawsuits dealing with a selection that are active right now. So.
Jeezy: Jesus.
Manny: Yeah, it's going. It's gonna be a fun couple of weeks. But I I agree with most of that. And you know, Wisconsin, the the other thing that I'll add on top of that is, this is also why she brought waltz waltz on on.
Jeezy: Oh, yeah.
Manny: Forward.
Manny: So it's your neighboring state. So if you can't help pull your neighboring state over the line, especially with that.
Manny: So I'm I'm also going to keep Wisconsin blue as well for this cycle.
Jeezy: All right.
Manny: Okay.
Jeezy: Michigan.
Manny: Again.
Jeezy: You got a.
Manny: Got it, man, all right. So
Manny: this is where I think we start deviating again.
Jeezy: -Oh.
Manny: I actually have Michigan going for trump.
Jeezy: Okay.
Manny: And
Manny: this is why. So I believe this is the case across all of the States. But I feel like we're going to especially see it in Michigan. I believe that when a lot of people think about the trump Economy
Manny: and the Trump President oh, sorry here the Trump Presidency.
Manny: I feel like most people feel like the Trump Presidency went from 2017 to 2019, and they kind of write off that last, you know, 2020. That was a Covid year. That's not him. He didn't really do it so.
Manny: And I think because of that.
Manny: I think people remember that economy.
Manny: And I think that's going to hit big in Michigan, especially as you start looking into the details of Michigan as a whole, and how it kind of played out last time we're talking about 150,000 votes. Yeah. And
Manny: I just don't know if there's been enough influx of people in Lansing, Detroit and Grand Rapids
Manny: to really ward off a very strong Republican response.
Manny: The big thing, I think, for Democrats that that's in there that'll help is the autoworkers did get a deal done that was very beneficial to them, so I think that could also come into play to kind of ward something off. But right now, at this point I have
Manny: Michigan going red.
Jeezy: Okay?
Jeezy: Well, you would be correct. I think this is where we have another divide in the road. I think that Harris is gonna win Michigan.
Jeezy: I believe
Jeezy: that the numbers in grand, rapid, and Lansing
Jeezy: in in Detroit. I think there will be a heavy turnout, and I'm and I'm primarily thinking in some of these counties where
Jeezy: Biden won, but just narrowly won. I think that Harris will be able to get better numbers there. I think that she has been able to build a level of trust that people can say, Okay.
Jeezy: you know, I voted for Biden, you know, and Harris is different, but I think she's a good difference, and I think that maybe she will be able in some of these areas like Detroit and Grand Rapids.
Jeezy: She'll be able to get some of the younger voter turnout that will maybe help her push her over the line. And for just that purposes I just want to put this out there, that since the 2020 election there's been 4.5 to 5 million baby boomers who have who have passed.
Jeezy: But there is, and
Jeezy: for the the Gen. Z. Individuals
Jeezy: there are 8 million Gen. Z. Individuals that are entering the voting arena since 2022 midterm election.
Manny: Look that's going to be a problem for trump across the board.
Jeezy: And that's what I'm thinking, too, man, that young people will play a significant role
Jeezy: in this election. Now for our listeners. I'm not saying that all 8 million are going to be out there voting, and all 8 million are going to one particular candidate. But I do believe that those numbers when you think about those those baby boomers, and that's those that were born between 1946 and 1964, I think a lot of them tend to
Jeezy: possibly be Republican
Jeezy: with the exit of those individuals going to the upper room.
Jeezy: And you have that space occupied by 8 million young people.
Jeezy: I think that's gonna play a factor.
Manny: Problem.
Jeezy: That in areas like Detroit and Grand Rapids, I think you're going to see that in some of these areas. And again, remember, Biden won in 2020 50.6 to 47.8 in Michigan it was close. But again, I think this is an area that I think the margin will be lesser. But I think there'll be enough in particular key areas and counties that will allow
Jeezy: to get Kamala to to win that state. So I'm going. I'm going blue with Detroit.
Manny: Okay.
Manny: all right, let's come on over to.
Jeezy: -Oh.
Manny: Pennsylvania.
Jeezy: We we getting? We get into the thick of it now. So we got PA shout out to PA, shout out to PA.
Manny: Man what you got on Pennsylvania.
Jeezy: Pennsylvania is going to be tight, man.
Manny: Right.
Jeezy: It was.
Manny: One about.
Jeezy: Mine tight
Jeezy: right.
Manny: Right now, right now Pennsylvania is by the polls up by point 4. Trump is up by point.
Jeezy: Okay, so this is going to be
Jeezy: very tight. Now I know that our boy Shapiro
Jeezy: has been doing work in the State. He's he's rallied a lot of the young people.
Jeezy: He has a presence on social media which the kids love. Remember those stat numbers that I told you before.
Jeezy: I think that what's going to be key is how she will perform in the counties around Allentown, Harrisburg.
Jeezy: Philadelphia and Pittsburgh!
Jeezy: I think some of that, some of that surge of these young people.
Jeezy: and
Jeezy: potentially what took place at the comments that trump made in Madison Square Garden, and some of the Latinos in that area. I think that there's going to be enough. Push that Harris Will
Jeezy: Wynn, Pennsylvania.
Manny: You got our winning Pennsylvania? Okay.
Manny: I'm gonna be real.
Manny: I don't know.
Manny: This is, this is hard.
Jeezy: So I'm I'm.
Manny: I'll hit you.
Jeezy: Now I'm there with you, cause I don't know either. But that's that's all.
Manny: May is.
Manny: So
Manny: I'm gonna go also with Pennsylvania being blue. Okay? And the reason being
Manny: is because of Shapiro.
Manny: Yeah, I think he is. He is an energetic leader of that state, and that's very well received and respected.
Manny: And so I think some of that will help
Manny: And that's kind of my gut around it now, we could be completely wrong, like like the the big question is, how big did the non frac Kamala's formula, former sorry.
Manny: but Kamala's former position on fracking against banning it. How how big is that felt in Pennsylvania? And there could be a complete rejection to her that's not being picked up in any polls that could completely flip it. But I agree also that Pennsylvania will, I believe, likely, stay blue
Manny: and and get, get the get the job done down there.
Jeezy: All right.
Manny: Coming down to Georgia.
Jeezy: Good old Georgia, good old Georgia.
Manny: Georgia.
Jeezy: So Georgia is outside of, I believe. Was it Wisconsin that we mentioned that was gonna be close or Michigan.
Manny: Yep, was.
Manny: and I'm pulling up the Georgia number. So right now, trump is plus 2.2 point 6.
Manny: Enjoy.
Jeezy: Don't
Jeezy: I? Georgia's tough for me? And and let me let me tell you why.
Jeezy: I just feel
Jeezy: that I'm torn.
Jeezy: I just feel like Georgia, looks at 2020 and trump, I mean at trump. Excuse me.
Jeezy: biden, only won by a very slim margin, 11,779 votes.
Jeezy: It was very slim, 49.5 to 49.2.
Jeezy: Think
Jeezy: that
Jeezy: the Republican
Jeezy: voters in Georgia are going to be energized to not let that happen again.
Manny: Fool me! You can't get fooled again.
Jeezy: In the words of George Bush.
Manny: Think.
Jeezy: That they will be energized to
Jeezy: get out. Vote and not let this happen again.
Manny: Yeah.
Jeezy: Get Georgia back to Red. So I'm saying that to say
Jeezy: I'm picking Georgia to go red.
Jeezy: But I want to put an asterisk beside that because
Jeezy: I won't.
Jeezy: and feel that Georgia will go blue, and I want to say that because we have a good brother in our group shout out to Chuck, who lives in Georgia?
Jeezy: And some of the comments that he's shared with us. Is that going to my point that I made before
Jeezy: Gen. Z. Voters.
Jeezy: His daughter is actually going. This will be her 1st time voting in a Presidential election. She recently just turned 18 shout out to her. She's a awesome young girl, and we.
Manny: That's absolutely.
Jeezy: Her dearly, and I just want to give her a shout out because she's doing major things. So your heart keep doing you and being great girl, but this will be her 1st time voting. And there are a lot of young kids again, that 8 million Gen. Z. Voters entering into this voting arena.
Jeezy: Could it be a possibility that they'll that that number? Those kids can be able to push
Jeezy: Kamala to keep in Georgia blue?
Jeezy: I don't know part of me, says Red, but I just got a feeling that it's possible.
Manny: I mean, I think that's gonna like, how do you, Poll? Gen. Zers.
Jeezy: Bingo!
Manny: Yeah, you can.
Jeezy: About that in our in our last episode, I believe.
Manny: Yeah, it's hard. It's hard. So some of these states
Manny: where you have a mass of young voters just all of a sudden now appear in voting data like.
Manny: how do you deal with that.
Jeezy: Yeah.
Manny: And how do you reach them? How do you touch them? And I just think the Harris campaign has been better
Manny: about at least unifying their attack, using using Tiktok and reaching out, reaching out to them in various capacities. But I don't know if there's a great way to pull it, you know, one of the things one of the things I was watching earlier today. There was a the comment came up about polling. And just like, are the pollers just trying to say everything's really close, because they don't want to be drastically wrong again.
Manny: maybe. But I agree with that sentiment. I think there is
Manny: a Southern Republican backlash from from taking that L last time. Now we see the court cases. So I think Georgia is going to be another one of those states that that's wrapped up in litigation for a little bit. But I, while not impossible, I don't see Georgia going blue.
Jeezy: No, no, I I don't, either, but we'll see.
Manny: All right.
Jeezy: Again. We could be wrong.
Manny: Now, now we, we!
Jeezy: So.
Manny: We we home, we.
Jeezy: Home. We don't been around. We don't been around the country, and we back, we back in our beloved State of North Carolina. So
Jeezy: North Carolina is going to be another.
Jeezy: It could be tricky. You heard Frank talk about when he was in the field, how the excitement is being rallied around. I live in a very rural county myself here in North Carolina, and I will say that I'm shocked at how much
Jeezy: blue signage yard signs. Even Harris coming here to hold a rally in my county.
Jeezy: That was a jam packed event. The excitement that I'm seeing
Jeezy: I don't know. Man north Carolina is, is going to be tough now. I will say that in 2020 again it was tight, and I think in 2020 there was a little bit of a moment for Republicans, because, if you remember, in 2020
Jeezy: there, there was a period where people were like.
Manny: We know, we know.
Jeezy: A minute like that margin was pretty large, and then it started shrinking, and trump won 49.9. The Biden's 48.6, so it was tight. Less than 75,000 votes gave trump the win in North Carolina in this election, though.
Jeezy: while I believe there is a lot of excitement for Harris.
Jeezy: I don't believe that North Carolina is gonna turn blue, man.
Jeezy: I just don't.
Jeezy: I think I think I think
Jeezy: our good old State just isn't ready. I think that we we love a split ticket.
Jeezy: and I think that we'll we'll have a blue blue governor and a Red President for North Carolina.
Manny: Look! There were there were Donald Trump, Roy Cooper voters.
Manny: Yep, yep, so
Manny: absolutely absolutely. I could see that playing out.
Manny: Now, Benny, I will. I will.
Jeezy: This, though, before you, before you continue, when we look at North Carolina, though, as you're familiar with her, heaviest turnouts were in
Jeezy: the the those Metro areas, Charlotte Winston-salem, Greensboro, Raleigh. Her election Eve event will be in Raleigh the day, the night before or the day before the election night
Jeezy: is there something that they're seeing that says, Hey, look! If we can drive up the numbers, because, remember, we talked about it before. Turnout is key. We know that there's a lot of young people.
Jeezy: and each one of these.
Manny: 16, colleges.
Jeezy: 6. Thank you. Thank you.
Manny: Public universities. Sorry before someone comes on. Be like, Hey, we got more universities than there's 16 public universities.
Jeezy: In each one of these areas where democrats have done significantly. Well, there are a lot of kids in these areas. There's a lot of kids. There's universities in Raleigh, Greensboro, Winston-salem. Charlotte
Jeezy: is there enough.
Jeezy: with that heavy turnout and presence of the Gen. Z. Of those young people to possibly turn North Carolina blue.
Jeezy: I don't know.
Manny: So
Manny: I think you're right. I think Kamala's plan is that she has to run up
Manny: the counts in the Big 5 counties, and for those of you who aren't familiar with the Big 5. It's Wake County that has Raleigh. That's Mecklenburg that has Charlotte. It's Forsyth that has Winston Salem it's Guilford that has Greensboro and then Durham.
Manny: She's got to run up the votes in those areas.
Jeezy: Yep.
Manny: But the one
Manny: additionally to everything that you said. There are 2 very specific counties that I'm watching in North Carolina that I think could really make life real interesting.
Manny: The 1st one, the the 2 counties are Cabarrus County
Manny: and Johnston County.
Manny: Now both of these counties sit outside of those big metro metro counties. But
Manny: what we're seeing in North Carolina just in raw human migration
Manny: is that people are coming into the States, and the big 5 areas have grown. But they've also started pricing people out. So you have overflow into other counties.
Manny: And if you look at Cabarrus County
Manny: Trump won that with 53%. So a little under 11,000 votes
Manny: are there way more voters there now than there were? There was in 2020,
Manny: I believe. So so I think that'll be interesting. And the same for for Johnston County.
Manny: you're you're looking at a county that was 61% went for trump. So it's almost close to 20,000 votes, I believe, probably close to that much, if not more, have moved into that area from outside of that outside of the State.
Manny: So those are the 2 counties that I'm watching. And the the other thing I think you have to keep in mind when talking about North Carolina is what happens to the 25 counties that were really impacted by Hurricane Helene.
Manny: Well, at this point.
Manny: if you look at their early voting numbers as of, I believe, Friday.
Manny: Those counties are voting in early voting
Manny: at a level ahead of what's been done historically.
Jeezy: Hmm.
Manny: So I I don't. I'm not concerned per se of the turnout there. You know, of course.
Manny: Vice President Harris is going to do well in Buncom County that holds Asheville. But then you have all those other rural counties.
Jeezy: Families, around.
Manny: Who now may or may not feel like the Government has tried to help them.
Manny: So what do you see that turnout there? So all that being said is.
Manny: I still believe North Carolina is going right.
Manny: I can see it flipping. It's going to be close, because even on top of all that
Manny: Donald Trump is currently in Kinston
Manny: doing a rally. Yeah, like Kinston is in the middle. So you see him really just trying to make sure his people go vote for him.
Manny: You know he was. He was in Gastonia. Gastonia is again right outside of Charlotte on Saturday.
Manny: like really just trying to drive people to the polls.
Jeezy: Run the numbers up.
Manny: And because that's what you got to do.
Jeezy: Yes, yes.
Manny: That's what you got to do. Yeah.
Manny: man, all right. So.
Jeezy: With that being said.
Manny: That leaves us both in a situation.
Jeezy: Yeah, I'm looking at
Jeezy: my map.
Jeezy: I'm looking at 2, 76 to 2, 62.
Manny: Yep, and with my Mac
Manny: 2, 72
Manny: to 2, 66.
Jeezy: Whoa!
Manny: Boy.
Jeezy: This is.
Manny: This is gonna be a nail biter.
Jeezy: Now I'm not going to lie to you. I did a gambler's pick, too, so if I had to.
Jeezy: The gamble on what I think is gonna happen.
Jeezy: I did end up
Jeezy: going with
Jeezy: 3, 19, Harris
Jeezy: to 2 19, Donald Trump.
Manny: So.
Jeezy: Been giving her
Jeezy: Nevada, Arizona, the Blue Wall, North Carolina, and Georgia.
Manny: Jay Z were talking about this right before before the pod. Y'all there there is a scenario that does exist
Manny: that produces a tie that is still technically possible.
Manny: That makeup is Arizona going blue, Nevada going blue, Wisconsin going blue, Michigan going red.
Manny: Pennsylvania going red.
Manny: and then North Carolina
Manny: and Georgia
Manny: going opposite of each other. They both have the same amount of electoral college vote, so as long as one of them, one of them goes red, one of them goes blue.
Manny: it could still happen.
Manny: Look, I don't. I don't even know right off the top of my head what happens in that? Oh, wait! Yes, I do. The Senate selects the President. No, no, no. Senate selects Vice President. House selects the President.
Jeezy: Hmm
Jeezy: chaos
Jeezy: utter.
Manny: Chaos.
Manny: the motor.
Jeezy: Of men.
Manny: I started clicking away at the map, looking like Dr. Strange in endgame, trying to figure.
Manny: How many scenarios is this possible?
Manny: That's what I got, too. So
Manny: this will. This will be exciting. We'll go ahead and and post these maps on our social media. So you guys can see them. We're gonna we're gonna track them here as well. So we're able to to see where we were wrong and see where we were. Right.
Jeezy: Yeah, man, we we shall see. We only have. We only have a few few days left. Well, actually, when this pod drops. It'll be a day.
Jeezy: and we will. We will be seeing how the chips fall. Man, this. This is gonna be exciting. So that is our map count.
Jeezy: So, moving right along with this episode, you guys know what time of the week it is. We got your pickup.
Jeezy: We got your pickle.
Jeezy: We got your pickle.
Manny: -Oh.
Jeezy: Pickles.
Manny: See.
Jeezy: Of
Jeezy: the week.
Manny: Man, who.
Jeezy: Who don't.
Manny: Found themselves in a situation.
Jeezy: The pickle of the week is simple.
Jeezy: For this week
Jeezy: the pickle of the week
Jeezy: is every single individual that's on a ballot. That's fair.
Manny: Fair. That is.
Jeezy: Everybody 10,000,%.
Manny: Fair.
Jeezy: We have no clue where the chips will fall
Jeezy: except for one of them, and that is Mark Robinson. But.
Manny: Taking this L. Mark Robinson is going to take this L.
Jeezy: He might, he might as well not even hold an event, but I'm sure he will.
Jeezy: But yeah, everybody that's on the ballot
Jeezy: Tuesday
Jeezy: is in a pickle because there is no clear winner.
Jeezy: In certain cases. There's gonna be some brokenecks.
Jeezy: But there's gonna be some situations.
Manny: Plenty.
Jeezy: Going to be some, some upsets
Jeezy: heartache and defeat.
Jeezy: and a whole lot of conceiting
Jeezy: bye.
Manny: And it's a rough spot like
Manny: no one hop. No one hops into an election to lose. Yeah, like, so it's it's a rough spot, and then to to give that phone call to to the people, to the person you just lost to.
Manny: especially when you
Manny: but it's it's a rough. It's a rough call to make.
Jeezy: Hey! Hey, brother, you! I want you to the rehash old, old emotions. Brother.
Manny: No, no, no.
Manny: I'll talk about it real quick. So
Manny: I think I knew
Manny: I knew actually, I probably knew as soon as the early vote. Actually, truthfully, I knew, probably about 2 weeks out, that the miracle, the miracle is not happening. There were. There were no angels in the outfield, but you know I still went in there. You know I serve a God who can do exceedingly, abundantly.
Jeezy: Amen!
Manny: All that we can ask or think. So I was like this could still happen.
Manny: And we were just watching the votes coming in, and some of the boys would be. We had basketball going on. I think Kentucky was playing well, we Kentucky was playing. We kicked over Wrl to watch some of the results.
Manny: and I just started getting angry because I'm just refreshing it on Wr on the board of elections. I was just like, put it on the game. I'm tired of watching this. Everyone can lose. I want everyone to lose. I went through that stage, and then there was just one county, that not one county. There was one precinct that we were still waiting for the votes for, and
Manny: I knew, I think internally I knew. But I was like, I'm I'm not going to make a call till all the votes are in.
Manny: All the votes came in around 1030. I was like, damn it.
Jeezy: Yep.
Manny: Picked up the phone, made the call, congratulated Gayla Adcock on her win.
Manny: wish her the best of luck, and let her know if she ever wanted to consult on some stuff that I'm happy to be a listening ear and give her my thoughts. That call.
Jeezy: Never came.
Manny: But you know
Manny: it's the public loss is hard.
Manny: It's hard because you never. You never hop into this thinking you're going to lose. And when it happens it it just just happens. So I agree
Manny: there are lots of people and lots of pickles this week.
Jeezy: Hey? That's why I don't think I could ever get get involved in politics at that capacity.
Jeezy: because as soon as I feel the sense that I'm starting. I'ma pull a trump, and I'ma come out early and.
Manny: Claim that I won, and everything.
Jeezy: And there is up.
Manny: Is it like.
Jeezy: Interference is read. Oh, Bro, I'm.
Manny: Trump.
Jeezy: Gave us the blueprint, so I already know polls close at 7, 8 30, I'm calling it.
Jeezy: We have to.
Manny: Good morning!
Jeezy: We are 8%, 8% devotee. I'm calling it. As soon as I see that I go. As soon as that my name go to that top. I'm calling it.
Manny: Bam.
Jeezy: But certainly this week, man is. It's gonna be some pickles man. So but but nonetheless
Jeezy: it takes a lot. And, manny, I commend you for the energy and the time that you put in to run, man, because from knowing you personally, I knew that your heart was in it. I knew you were going into it to do the work of the people to support the people, and unfortunately it wasn't a loss for you. It was a loss for the State. It was a loss that they didn't gain
Jeezy: a great individual as my brother, to be able to do the work of the people, but.
Manny: Man, but it was all for the best, you know. I don't see it. Look, either I win or I learn.
Manny: and you know.
Jeezy: Preach, preach, I learned.
Manny: I learned a lot, you know, not only just about politics, but like I learned a lot about myself.
Jeezy: Yeah. Man.
Manny: So yeah.
Manny: all things in God's timing. So.
Jeezy: Hey, brother? Well, it's good thing that we didn't have the pod back then, because then you might have been listed as a pickle of the week. So
Jeezy: but y'all that that is our pickle of the week. We're just having fun with it and going into this election night. So that is it for that segment, and as you know what follows the pickle of the week, it is our spotlight of the week, and we have a major spotlight that we want to share with you guys. And I'm gonna let Manny give you the details on that. So what we got.
Manny: Yeah. So we we've been cooking it up for a little bit, you know. Meta and Marcus Zuckerberg decided he wanted to throw a wrench into some of the plans. But, we plan to go live with the podcast
Jeezy: Hey!
Manny: For the election. So we're going to be going, starting at 7 o'clock pm. Eastern Standard time across all of our socials. And I know, you guys probably heard this like all your socials.
Jeezy: Yeah.
Manny: Got Twitter. Yeah, so we are. We are on. We're going to be on Twitter, of course. Shout out to Elon for not kicking us off yet. We will be on Youtube
Manny: and we will be on twitch
Manny: we'll also be posting time to time on our new. I was, gonna say, twitch our Tiktok account as well during election day. I'm actually going to be out going around chatting with people at the polls as they're waiting to vote after they finish voting, so we'll be throwing up some some kind of live feed from from North Carolina during the day.
Jeezy: Hey!
Manny: So we are going to be on, you know. Jeez and I talked back and forth like, How long are we going to be on.
Manny: So we have committed that we are going to be on
Manny: until there is a winner or one Am. Eastern Standard time.
Jeezy: Bingo. It's gonna be it's gonna be the live, the partner. Politics live coverage of the election night, sponsored by Celsius.
Jeezy: They'll see their folgers.
Manny: And donuts. Holla at us!
Jeezy: Yeah, we don't either.
Manny: We're gonna need it. But likely, you guys, if you're if you're listening right now, you're gonna already see some of the advertisements, we're gonna start rolling those out Sunday. But we love for you guys to enjoy and join us. You know. We'll be commenting back and forth, so we'll be watching the the chat obviously on on twitch
Manny: and then, as well as adding us on on Twitter, we're going to be watching the conversation. You might even get an opportunity to join the boys on live podcast as we go through the day in the evening. So we're we're very much looking forward to it, and happy that we're able to take this next step and do this for you guys. And with you guys.
Jeezy: Hey, man, I'm excited, man, it's going to be fun. It's going to be a lot of laughter. It's going to be a great night. And we're just gonna we're just excited, just even do this. So we've had it for a while talking about it. And I think that we finally have a avenue that will allow us to do this. So if you are listening.
Jeezy: please engage with us. Please hit us up on our social media platform. Send us anything. If you like to join, let us know but we'll be rolling 6 h at least, so.
Manny: At least.
Jeezy: So tap in with us, man. So with that.
Manny: Unless all of our predictions were wrong and
Manny: go to one candidate. Yeah, we're like, Oh, look! This gets wrapped up at 11 o'clock. I'm going to bed.
Manny: I'm going.
Jeezy: I'm good. I'm done. So yeah, we we go. We go see how it turns out. But it's gonna be an amazing night.
Jeezy: And hopefully a historic night that we will be able to enjoy together here at partner politics. Podcast so with that being said that is episode, 8 of season, one of partner politics, and we are so grateful that you took the time out of your schedule
Jeezy: to give us a listen. We know this episode is a little longer than our normal episodes, but nonetheless, we had a lot to cover, and we wanted to make sure we gave you our predictions going into election night. So with that being said, I don't have anything else. Man, are you good.
Manny: And I'm good. Yeah, we will see you guys on Tuesday.
Jeezy: All right, guys take care. And that is it for us here, at the partner, politics, podcast.
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