Election Shockwaves: The Blue Wall and Broken Hopes

In this episode, Jeezy and Manny dive deep into the aftermath of a shocking election night that caught everyone off guard. The duo breaks down how their predictions went awry, dissecting the key moments and missed signals leading up to the surprising victory for Trump, who swept the battleground states and claimed a decisive win. They share candid insights on Kamala Harris’s campaign strategy, how early voting trends skewed expectations, and why the Democratic Party’s game plan may have backfired.

Jeezy recounts his gut feeling when he saw Kamala working the phones on election day, a tell-tale sign of trouble. Meanwhile, Manny analyzes the coalition-building strategies that Trump mastered, transforming his campaign into a force that resonated with working-class voters. The conversation delves into the role of voter outreach, last-minute calls, and why Democrats fell short in rallying their base. As always, they deliver their analysis with humor, wit, and a touch of introspection, making sense of the chaos in today’s political landscape.

Tune in for a mix of political wisdom, laughs, and hard truths about where both parties stand as we look ahead to what’s next.

Transcript

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Jeezy: Hello world and welcome to the part in the politics. Podcast season one episode 9. I am your co-host, jeezy with my partner in politics, manny.
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Jeezy: What's good? Manny.
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Manny: Man.
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Manny: we we still here, we still here.
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Manny: It was a wild week.
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Jeezy: Here, and it has definitely been a wild week.
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Jeezy: But before we jump into it we just want to say a huge, huge, thanks to the Pod community. As you guys know, we had our live event that was streamed on election night through Twitter.
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Jeezy: Youtube, and twitch. And you guys showed us a tremendous amount of love.
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Manny: So much love.
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Jeezy: I mean, we cannot thank you guys enough. It went amazing. We had some great feedback. We had some guests on some members of the pod. Some people that we know that are near and dear to us, and it really turned into a very nice event. So thank you guys for watching for tuning in. It was greatly appreciated. And we're back here dropping another episode, man, so.
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Manny: Yeah.
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Manny: the amount of love you guys show us will never go unfelt. Y'all, the fact that there are people here nationally and internationally, that care what the boys think about things. Yeah, thank you guys so much. We appreciate it. And we'll be setting up our next one here in here in a little bit more details will be forthcoming on that. But guys once again, thank you so much.
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Jeezy: Yeah, man, we we enjoyed it. And just as much fun as you guys had, we had fun putting it on. So thank you guys. So
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Jeezy: you know as.
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Manny: What happened this week? Anything happened this week. Anything big.
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Jeezy: What didn't happen, man? Oh, my God! So election night came, and election night threw us a little bit of a loop man. You guys know. We posted our maps on our social media. What the pod thought that was going to take place, and we were wrong.
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Manny: Absolutely none of that happened. Absolutely none of that.
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Manny: Like we were. We were wrong.
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Jeezy: We? We were dead wrong, like dead wrong. So you know, in this episode we want to just break down our thoughts of election night, and and I will say
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Jeezy: it, it was definitely a shocker. But as I processed it I just off of default. I went ahead and took the next day off from work. Just so I would have that moment.
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Manny: The process.
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Jeezy: Either way of how it went.
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Jeezy: and, man that day after man as I process it. I sent Manny a message in the in the chat and and one of the things that stuck out to me was like I should have. I should have known this was coming.
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Jeezy: and I said that because
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Jeezy: I remember.
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Jeezy: Election day I was sitting in my office at work.
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Jeezy: and I tuned in to when when Trump went to go cast his his vote.
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Jeezy: and you know I pay attention to to the vibes, the energy of a person.
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Jeezy: and he kind of just gave off like.
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Manny: Got a swag man.
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Jeezy: Yeah, he had a.
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Manny: Is confident.
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Jeezy: He had the cap on. He had no tie on, had the collar open when a man got a blazer on with the collar open.
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Manny: Confidence.
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Jeezy: Confidence. So you know he had that on. Then I turned over, and I seen Jd. Vance casting his vote.
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Jeezy: got the same type of same type of little swaggers.
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Manny: Is here.
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Jeezy: I've got.
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Jeezy: And then, you know.
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Jeezy: Kamala, she mailed hers in. But what struck me was that I heard that she was making
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Jeezy: calls.
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Manny: Working.
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Jeezy: Like.
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Manny: Working, working.
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Jeezy: Election like she's calling into radio stations, and she's calling into this and that in battleground states. And I sat back in my chair in my office, and I'm like.
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Jeezy: why is she working so hard?
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Jeezy: The day of.
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Manny: They like.
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Jeezy: There should be no work going on, and you've done all you can, essentially, in my opinion. But she's like
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Jeezy: calling talking in the news radio stations. And I'm like I had a
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Jeezy: 5 second thought where I was like.
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Jeezy: she ain't gonna win.
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Manny: It.
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Jeezy: And I remember telling manny and like, I said, and we shared on the podcast. How we we are members of Alpha, Phi, alpha.
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Jeezy: Fraternity Incorporated. I was a stepmaster, and I remember in the way that I carried our our preparation for step shows
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Jeezy: we're not doing nothing. The day of the show.
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Manny: Be chilling, getting properly hydrated, stretched out. Can't catch a catch. A cramp in the middle of the show. Cramp.
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Jeezy: Right. So you know you you kind of really, that day is just a mental day, even even for those of you that are athletes that have played sports.
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Manny: You know the.
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Jeezy: The day. The day of you ain't doing no hard work, you may, you know, be at the hotel, and you might walk through a play, or you know, you may do some hydrating or some stretching, but you're certainly not doing any hard work.
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Manny: She was.
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Jeezy: Person doing hard work. The day of that tells me.
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Manny: They know.
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Jeezy: Yeah, you you.
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Manny: They were unsure.
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Jeezy: You don't feel sure you don't feel confident in yourself. And I had that little 5 5 second glimpse where I was like.
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Jeezy: but then
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Jeezy: I had hope.
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Manny: And hope.
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Jeezy: Is A is A is a dangerous vehicle.
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Jeezy: that is, if not, if not driven properly. We'll we'll.
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Manny: Right off that cliff.
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Jeezy: Right off the cliff.
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Manny: That cliff of disappointment and despair.
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Manny: and that's what that
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Manny: and.
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Jeezy: What happened?
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Manny: Mean. It was apparent. So election day I was. I went and vote voted. You know. I don't early vote. Let's 1st hit that. I don't early vote for for 2 reasons. One, I like election day voting. That's the day I go. Vote you assigned me a day, and that's the day I'm going to go out and vote, but also I'm of strong belief that election day should either be a weekend
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Manny: or a national holiday.
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Manny: so, to make sure I keep supporting that. I go out and vote on election day, and
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Manny: I went to my precinct. I was number 286, and that was around 11 o'clock in the afternoon in the morning. And I was like, Oh, that's super low, that's super super low. A good portion of the precinct that I was at that I vote at had already done early voting when I was calling around. You know the original plan that I had for election day was to go around, talk to different people at precincts and whatnot and places were dry.
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Manny: There was nobody in certain places here in North Carolina, and I think that just shows the drive to early voting, mail-in balloting. And what happened there. So I was like, this is odd.
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Manny: Called one of my one of my good friends
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Manny: out out in Raleigh, I was like, hey! What are you seeing at your precinct? And the precinct he was at. He was like 67% of the precinct voted early. And he's like, that's a ridiculous number. I was just like, oh, so pretty much everybody.
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Manny: And I was like, Okay, whatever you know, people just voted early, just they didn't want to wait for the lines they knew which we had talked about here on the pod that everyone kind of knew what they were already going to do. So like. Why, why belabor the point? Let me just go ahead and head in. Cast this ballot and be on my way.
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Manny: But yeah, you know what I
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Manny: when G dropped that message in the chat I was like, yeah, it's a little bit weird, you know. But you know, maybe. And it wasn't.
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Manny: It didn't initial initially. Cast me as like, really odd. Because I'm like, oh, yeah, early in the morning. Yeah. 8 o'clock in the morning shows. Okay, yeah. That makes sense. When I heard that she was still doing it like 2, 3 o'clock in the afternoon. There's video of her on Cnn at a call center like talking to people. I was like, girl, girl, you
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Manny: part of my brain was like, Yeah, you you really going after it. But
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Manny: but here is the moment. And and it's funny, because in hindsight we can look back, and we can really start pinpointing things that were like, oh, yeah, we should have known something there. The the one that jumps out to me was Taylor Swift.
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Manny: And the fact that
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Manny: her being such a vocal supporter well, I don't know if we can really say vocal, but she was a supporter of Kamala Harris, posting on social media
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Manny: for Kamala to be out doing a rally the day before
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Manny: in any estate, pick any of this State because she was.
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Jeezy: Yeah.
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Manny: Dumping that Co. 2 all in the air on the jet, but for her to not appear at anything. And instead, go watch. You know, Travis Kelsey, be okay at football. Normally, I would say good. But you know he's off being okay at football. And you go into that game like that's I'm like, that's if you really feel like democracy is at at state. She kind of denoted in her comments, and then just not appear at all. I'm like.
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Jeezy: Yeah.
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Manny: Something's off. Here.
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Jeezy: And endorsement fell a little flat.
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Manny: The other. Taylor Swift Marker, as I will call it, is Jeez. You remember
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Manny: it had to be a couple months ago. She dropped that song where she longed for a time 118 hundreds, or something like that, and she longed to be back in that time.
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Manny: At 1st I heard I was like, well, that's real weird. But you know, because that wasn't the greatest time for women. But okay, that's what floats your boat, Taylor. That's what floats your boat.
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Jeezy: Right.
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Manny: But then thinking in hindsight. And now looking at these results for the number one, pop! Star in the world to drop
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Manny: us a line like that.
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Manny: meaning that.
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Manny: Taylor. I thought that that line to some degree would resonate with her people.
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Jeezy: Hmm.
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Manny: I think that was a marker of a group of people saying they want to go back to a previous time. Maybe we should be
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Manny: making America great again, and not trying to plot a new way forward.
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Manny: If.
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Jeezy: And when you think about it, man, to that point, when you look at
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Jeezy: the the groups of people, and how they voted.
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Jeezy: and you compare that to her base.
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Jeezy: I think you're right, man.
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Manny: I mean you.
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Jeezy: You're right.
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Manny: And it.
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Manny: And let's also all be honest. For a second
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Manny: we all kind of believed
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Manny: that Kamala was going to win rural Pennsylvania.
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Manny: that
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Manny: white.
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Manny: Let's all just sit for that with that for a second, like rural Pennsylvania, rural Michigan and rural Wisconsin, like we all, we all firmly thought like, yeah, this is possible. That's possible.
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Manny: But like you, said
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Manny: Hope, driving on hope on a mountain of despair.
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Jeezy: Man that that hope, and I think, man it.
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Jeezy: They did a good job of bottling this hope and selling it to us
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Jeezy: 2 $4, but once we got home.
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Jeezy: start drinking on it.
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Manny: There's water.
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Jeezy: We got what we paid for.
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Manny: And you we hear it a lot.
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Manny: Yeah, maybe this is the 1st time we'll say on this. No, no, it's not the 1st time, we say, but
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Manny: things that do not vote that people associate with people voting
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Manny: political signs. Yep, social media likes and TV time. Yep.
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Manny: we we saw we saw all that. And we're like, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, she should be.
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Manny: She was not fine. She was in pain.
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Jeezy: We said on the previous episode, energy does not vote.
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Manny: And then also going back to the Saturday night. Live appearance that literally happened while we were recording the pod. If you look at Vice President Harrit's face when she, when my Rudolph says I'm voting for us.
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Manny: and she and she's like, Are you in Pennsylvania? If you look at her, if you look at her face. She was real serious, like.
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Jeezy: Yes. Yeah.
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Manny: That came from deep inside like yo. Are you in Pennsylvania?
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Jeezy: You know what, Manny, you know to that point.
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Jeezy: you know we've discussed, too, where you know Trump was telling us that you know the numbers that he he's seeing he he was up big.
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Jeezy: and we've heard Trump do that before.
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Jeezy: you know, and he's been wrong.
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Jeezy: Yeah, he he definitely was not. But I. What was telling to me is, once the results started coming in.
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Jeezy: I felt like Kamala knew that
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Jeezy: the numbers were what they were. I think she knew they were in this position because there there was no pushback. There was no
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Jeezy: hey, you know. Can we get a recount in this county. It was like, Yep, yep.
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Manny: Took this l.
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Jeezy: Hey? If you see it, if it if it look like an L smell like an L, it feel like an L.
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Manny: Oh, listen. Now,
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Jeezy: And that's what she got, man. We would. I think that
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Jeezy: we are just about. I think everything is done. I think all the States have been.
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Manny: All the States are in, and you know.
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Jeezy: Big, big Donnie got a.
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Manny: He did this.
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Jeezy: I give him a new nickname. Bro. Big Donnie did the sweep
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Jeezy: he did. 3 12. The
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Jeezy: I can't even call a big mahler no more man. I'm just gonna have to say, Miss Mala. 226. And what's telling about this map?
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Jeezy: It's like Manny's already, said Bro. He did a sweep in the battleground States.
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Manny: That blue wall fell like the walls of Jericho on that.
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Jeezy: 7
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Jeezy: Bro. I like, when you look at this map, it's like.
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Jeezy: Yeah, man. And down to even the even the popular vote trump got 50.4
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Jeezy: to model, having 47.9, so that.
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Manny: Yeah.
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Jeezy: About a 3.6 3.7 million difference with trump, having 74.5 million votes.
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Manny: And to do it so definitively, like.
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Jeezy: Yes.
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Manny: So if you look at, I'm trying. Okay, there it is. I was trying to look for the math that I had. If you look at, vote counts in the popular vote.
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Manny: Trump got 300,000 more votes in 2024 than he did in 2020. So
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Manny: good for him he's he's consistently raised his numbers.
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Manny: But if you look at Senator Sorry, Vice President Harris, in comparison to the numbers that Biden did.
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Manny: She got 11 million fewer votes.
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Jeezy: Gee!
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Manny: Than Biden.
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Manny: and like, even in like New Jersey, you know, it went blue.
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Manny: Kamala Harris only got 51% of that vote.
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Jeezy: Yeah.
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Manny: And that's that's rough. Because I believe in 2020. It was closer to
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Manny: closer to 60. Joe Biden got closer to 60% in that. Yeah.
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Manny: So she really, there was clear voter drop off.
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Jeezy: Oh, definitely, definitely. And I think even it's evident, if you look at at California
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Jeezy: when you look at California, and how you know it was won in 2020, and you compare the counties to what you know. What Harris was able to to obtain
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Jeezy: it. It almost could have got sticky.
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Jeezy: you know.
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Manny: Yeah.
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Jeezy: There is a you know. She only wanted by 2 point
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Jeezy: 2.3 million votes, and you may say, Well, that's a lot of votes. But when we're talking about California.
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Manny: California. That's that's a lot of people.
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Jeezy: Yeah, there's a lot of people, and that number that margin should be a lot
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Jeezy: bigger than what it was. But.
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Jeezy: There's there. It wasn't, you know. So
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Jeezy: there was
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Jeezy: Trump Trump man, you know he he! Really
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Jeezy: he really ran the table.
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Jeezy: and you know I wanted to kind of bring up the topic 1st with trump of Where do we think trump, or how did trump nail
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Jeezy: a victory? A victory to this level. I mean, there were some people thinking that it was going to be close, and you heard a lot of major networks to which a point that you've made on the pod, Manny, or maybe in our group chat that we talked about is that maybe a lot of these people were calling it close because they didn't want to be, you know.
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Manny: Be wrong.
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Jeezy: Be wrong, you know, with the past couple of years kind of looking at polls like, and even in this case you can look at the polls and say they were wrong.
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Manny: And let's not forget that Iowa Poll came out, and everyone's like she usually ain't wrong. She usually ain't wrong. There might be something here there was absolutely nothing there.
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Jeezy: There was absolutely nuts. I don't know what she was smoking on
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Jeezy: at night.
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Jeezy: but it was. It was good. It was strong.
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Manny: Strong control.
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Jeezy: He, it is crazy, because I remember when she dropped it, trump was like.
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Jeezy: Yeah, like, wait a minute. We got something in trouble was like, I don't even know why she even dropped it. I see why he said that because she about to look crazy.
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Manny: Real crazy.
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Jeezy: Even the homie with the I can't remember his name, the homie with the toupee that says he's been predicting the election is right. He's only been wrong once.
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Jeezy: Hold! Hold this! Hold this L. Potting.
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Manny: Right
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Manny: old jail.
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Jeezy: So when we look at the results of what took place on election night.
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Jeezy: where do you feel, or what do you feel was done by trump in the trump campaign.
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Jeezy: Vanilla. Victory of this level of this magnitude.
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Manny: May.
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Manny: What I'm not sold on right now is whether
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Manny: Donald Trump won.
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Manny: or whether Kamala Harris lost like that, I think that will kind of become more apparent as more like the finalized data gets out there. Yeah, but that's that's what I'm having a problem reconciling. So I don't know.
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Manny: But part of me really leads to the fact that Donald Trump won a couple key things that I think really just made the huge difference. If you go look at the county map, nationwide.
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Manny: trump ran up the numbers everywhere. He virtually did better in every single, in not every single, but the majority of counties.
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Jeezy: I think we'll see.
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Manny: The Us.
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Jeezy: It was like, I can't remember the number, but it might have been like 13% of like.
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Jeezy: Might have won like 13% of the counties, or like 18% of the counties in the Us.
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Manny: Cnn. Did a breakdown, and they showed counties in which Donald Trump
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Manny: over. I think the number over a thousand 50.
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Manny: And then same 3 percentage point. Kamala had 58.
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Manny: That doesn't happen by accident.
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Jeezy: No, it doesn't.
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Manny: And I think what you saw here was a trump team running
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Manny: that had taken everything that they learned in 2016, in 2020 went back to the went back to the drawing board.
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Manny: And really, like, we're going to do this differently.
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Manny: I think one of the big things, a lot of the voter outreach that happened on the Donald Trump team.
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Manny: Of course you had the party apparatus doing stuff. But Charlie Kirk's organization, you saw Elon musk and his pac being involved, and while Pacs can't coordinate with the campaigns.
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Manny: packs can also can coordinate with each other, and I thought you saw a coordination of pack work that
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Manny: had people on the ground. That was extremely data driven.
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Manny: And I think they just they just turned out the people. And that's even before we we start talking about like the issues and how we got how we really got here. And I think when we we'll cover, how we really got here in a little bit, but
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Manny: I think I think he learned, and then, at the heart of it.
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Manny: Trump had the most to lose by losing.
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Jeezy: Mingo.
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Manny: Light.
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Manny: I think.
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Jeezy: Said it on a previous episode like this is, or this is life or death for trump.
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Jeezy: and I think he.
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Manny: And not just politically.
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Jeezy: Oh, not facts. I think you saw a man and identified
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Jeezy: that I have all my chips in on this, and I have. I have to do everything within my power
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Jeezy: to wield myself the victory.
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Jeezy: and I got to give it a trump.
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Jeezy: He did it, and I think his team did a heck of a job.
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Jeezy: because even in some of the pitfalls you could see, you know, when when we talked about in our previous episode about the Madison Square Square Garden event.
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Jeezy: You saw his team was bam. They were on it. They were trying to do as much as they possibly can to distance and separate like
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Jeezy: they learned to your point, man. They learned what to do. And you've seen you heard a lot of Democrats say, well, you know trump didn't have a ground game, or much of all. You know. He didn't have people knocking doors or doing this, and to that point
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Jeezy: he didn't need it.
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Manny: Well, and he was also doing other different things like I I know for certain.
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Jeezy: Prove to be much effective, much more effective.
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Manny: Right from from phone calls that I got.
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Manny: I got invited to an Elon musk round roundtable. I was invited, one at Dana White, like Trump himself? Did one where call in rallies that I think a lot of people just didn't know about, like we heard about the the Zoom rallies for Vice President Harris. But we didn't hear about these like you. You heard them because you were invited to be there. And I was like, this is this is interesting.
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Manny: This is interesting. And to everyone's like, Well, E. How did how did you get invited? Well, a. Remember, at the end of the day I'm so registered Republican, even as vocally, as vocally strong as I was in support of Kamala Harris.
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Jeezy: I'm looking.
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Manny: What. But you know, during election day I got bored, and I started answering some of these spam calls that I was getting, and that's what these were. They were invites, these virtual, I was like. So I had been missing these for
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Manny: probably a while at this standpoint, and also at least in the State of North Carolina. They're dropping election data every day in terms of who voted, who didn't vote. So you know exactly. If I know Manny has not voted yet. So based on this data, I have this phone number for him. So I'm going to call him
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Manny: that got outdated.
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Jeezy: You're going to harass him. No, yes! Shout out to.
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Manny: Who does not sponsor this pod, but you could for helping filter out a bunch of messages and text that I didn't want to receive.
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Jeezy: Man. So I think, man.
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Jeezy: there was some work that was done, and I think that that can't go
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Jeezy: unnoticed by what the trump team was able to accomplish. They really
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Jeezy: went to work. And to your point, man, a lot of that we didn't hear about, but apparently
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Jeezy: well, obviously actually behind the scenes. There was some serious work
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Jeezy: going on by this team, and.
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Manny: What do they say? Work, work in silence, and let the results speak for themselves.
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Jeezy: And that's Bro, that's facts, man, big big Donnie. He got it done. Bro.
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Jeezy: I think that also, too. When you look at what trump was able to do
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Jeezy: when it came to the issues.
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Jeezy: You know the Democrats, I feel like.
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Manny: They carry a lot. They carry a lot on this one like a lot of why this went wrong was because of the Democratic party. For them.
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Jeezy: Oh, yeah, yeah, they they. It was almost as if this this thing was gift wrapped by the Democrats for for the Republicans, because, you know, there were so many issues that Trump could hit on that really attacked the Democratic party.
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Jeezy: The Democrats really couldn't answer it, and I think that you know, even down to like, you know, the border there was. There was a hard position that Harris couldn't separate herself on that to a degree that she needed to, I think, to capitalize on those people that saw it as a real issue.
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Jeezy: Abortion rights.
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Jeezy: You know. They they hit on that. But really outside of abortion rights and project 2025.
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Jeezy: It's all Democrats to talk about everything else.
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Jeezy: Throw is really
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Jeezy: looking in the mirror.
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Manny: It was. The Democrats very much showed to be a party that was ill prepared for this moment. That we know is going to happen every 4 years.
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Manny: Right? I
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Manny: in the group chat. Y'all I I dropped my 10 reasons about how we got here, and why Kamala lost.
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Manny: and the number. One reason that I have is lack of leader, a true leadership in the Democratic party, like, because the day after the 2020 election they should have been looking for a replacement like this is who's going to run?
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Manny: And they didn't.
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Manny: I think the party internally was so so served themselves that Trump was going to be indicted and put in jail before
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Manny: this election, that they're like cool. We ain't got to figure this out.
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Manny: The second reason I have on why this happened is Biden's fault. It's Biden's fault. He came out and ran saying, I'm going to be the bridge bridge person. I'm going to do one term, and I'm going to leave.
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Manny: you know. Biden started feeling a little young again, because, even though he's almost as old as trump.
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Manny: Like, I think he was starting to feel himself. And he's like, Yeah, I'm going to go do this again.
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Manny: Right. It's hard. It's hard pill to swallow.
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Jeezy: He got to feel in himself, man, and that goes to your point about leadership.
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Manny: The it was easy who let him off the hook, the party leadership and the other candidates. No, it's almost as if no one started preparing.
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Manny: At the end of the day she had a hundred days from Biden, stepping down till election day to try to pull this together. It was going to be a miracle to make it happen in any degree, but it also didn't help her that
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Manny: and with 100 days how do you separate yourself from the administration that you're in? And the trump campaigns spent every moment reminding people that hey, she is part of this current administration. And what do you do with that? So? But I also go back, and I was sharing with the boys some some additional data from back in in July that should have also let us know that, hey, this this won't going to work out for them like they expected it to.
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Manny: and it basically it was right at the time. Trump, not trump. Biden had already messed up in the the debate, and they were like, Well, who's going to replace them?
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Manny: Michelle. And we're going to put a PIN in this because I'm going to come right back to this. Kamala was down by 1% to trump, so doable down by 1%. Gavin Newsom. He got 39 to Trump's 42, Gretchen Whitmore, 36 to Trump's 41 Andy Brashar, 36 to Trump's 20. Jk. Pricker, 34 to Trump's 40
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Manny: Everyone was down. Michelle Obama had 50% to Trump's 39,
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Manny: and I'm going to say it. This, this is the other thing that I highlighted for the boys.
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Manny: This election losing was Obama's fault.
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Manny: And here and here is why it's Obama's fault. It was Obama's fault, because he made that stuff look so dang easy.
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Manny: He said it when Hillary ran. He said she didn't work as hard as me. Obama did his election, did his campaigns, and did his presidency with such a swag that people just thought it was easy, like anyone can do. Oh, everyone can do that.
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Manny: Obama was a duck, you know. If you see if you see a duck on top of the water, calm, cool, collected, but underwater paddling for his life, and they
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Manny: and I think Dems expected this to come easy for them
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Manny: And you saw, and you saw that with Hillary like. Didn't work. Obama said it himself. She didn't work as hard as he did, and she lost. And I think
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Manny: But the party has been chilling since Obama like there's no reason. If we're also being honest, there's no reason Hillary Clinton should have been the one who who ran in 16.
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Manny: Obama showed in 0 8 and 12 that the party was ready for different leadership. Hillary was not that.
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Jeezy: Yeah, she wasn't. That's that's not the difference that we would that we were looking for.
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Manny: It was not we wanted. We wanted hoping change, not more of the same.
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Jeezy: I'm more the same. Bro, you know we've been there before, and and and back to the point that you were making man that
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Jeezy: man, you knew you knew you weren't in a position
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Jeezy: The Democratic party
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Jeezy: You know. And then it's like, Oh, yeah, Biden drops out, hey? Y'all remember, Harris, my Vp.
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Jeezy: Yeah, it's like, No, brother, don't. Don't bring her out on stage left and say, Hey, okay, now, here she is.
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Manny: She didn't establish herself.
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Jeezy: to the, to the change in the difference of the candidate you have named a black woman.
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Jeezy: You have a woman of East of Asian descent.
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Jeezy: That is a change. That's not something that you just plop in our laps and say.
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Manny: Country. The country had 2 years to adjust to Obama most campaigns absent of Obama. Let's take Obama out of it. Most candidates don't run for President in a hundred days. Most of them have this. Okay, you've gone through a whole entire primary cycle. And now you've gone through a campaign cycle. So you've you've heard for this. You've heard about this candidate for at least the last year and a half.
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Manny: She didn't have all that, and we called it out on the last pod that, like she is just now finding her footing with her message and everything.
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Manny: But you're doing that days before an election.
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Jeezy: It's too late. Home, girl.
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Jeezy: It's too late, and that's where I feel like. Biden
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Jeezy: really fumbled and dropped the ball. We joked about it and said, You know, if this is pulled off, this will be.
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Jeezy: you know, one of the the greatest political alley-oops that we've ever seen.
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Jeezy: But on the flip side of that we see that this might have been one of the greatest political fumbles.
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Manny: That Carlton Banks give me the ball and let me launch up, because that's what it was. It wasn't even a brick. It was an air ball. You lost
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Manny: all the dems, lost everything.
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Jeezy: You get nothing, so you lose. Good day.
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Jeezy: Your hat and your coat and leave, and I think she knows it, man, because, you know again I look at how people move. And she came out. She gave her, you know, a well-crafted speech, where she conceded at Howard University.
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Jeezy: walking off one last time to freedom. But then, shortly, I think it was within 48 h. Her niece, Mina, posts on Instagram. She's chilling with her nieces with a glass of wine like Bro. She like. You know what
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Jeezy: y'all y'all gave me a Miss.
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Manny: I did the best I could.
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Jeezy: I did the best I could. Do
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Jeezy: you know, hey? Over 70, almost 75 million people said, this is what they wanted.
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Jeezy: So, hey? I'm I'ma, give him that.
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Manny: And let's remember, elections are also about coalition building.
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Manny: There were some things done on both sides that really helped make this election. If you, if you look at the Democratic party over the last, I would say 1520 years.
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Manny: their voting voter coalition has always been up until probably like the last, maybe 4 to 8 years. I'll give you in some stretches 12.
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Manny: You're not a Republican man. You're rhino man, just Republican in name. Only you get over there.
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Manny: Now adopting that same Republican-esque previous view that like, hey? If you're not down for women's rights, Lgbtq rights help if you where it became a checklist and those flipped.
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Manny: Yep, yep, and and we saw some.
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Manny: If if you
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Manny: you know, Trump, people have said it. Trump is not a Republican.
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Manny: He's very much just using the name and the vehicle. Yep.
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Manny: But people were leaving because of trump. Not necessarily policy.
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Manny: On the democratic side. You had people leaving because of policy, and someone did a breakdown of like the exit polling numbers. We saw
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Jeezy: And I think that goes to your point, Manny, and confirmation, because I think this week past week we saw Bernie Sanders
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Jeezy: The people they're appealing to now aren't the middle class, and and I thought about it when I seen his comments I was like, Wait a minute.
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Jeezy: I don't think I ever saw Bernie even endorse
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Jeezy: Whatever that means for him.
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Manny: When I'm not running for President. I'm an independent.
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Jeezy: I thought about it. I'm like he's normally very vocal.
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Jeezy: Man's been quiet. And then, after we've seen the the whooping that trump was able to put on. You know he comes out. He's very critical of the Democratic party. When he made that comment I was like.
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Jeezy: he's got a point here, man.
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Jeezy: yeah. Got a serious point here, and you know to your point. You know that a hundred $1,000.
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Jeezy: Salary! That's not your middle class.
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Manny: Not at all.
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Jeezy: and I'm looking at both of these parties. Which one do. I feel like really appeals to me, and it's been built that trump's been able to rally those people to feel that. Hey? I'm your candidate. I'm your guy.
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Jeezy: We're your destination as far as where you resign politically, and that is evident in what we saw in this election.
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Manny: And what's next? Who knows what's next?
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Manny: Like
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Manny: that. That was a. It was a hell of a sweep by by trump, for that picking up the Senate, even though that was projected at this point as as of the recording of this. We still don't know what's going to happen with the house.
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Manny: but here's what I would say, if you listen. You know we had one of my good friends, Antoine Marshall, who who will definitely be making some appearances as the pod on the Pod, brother Marshall.
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Manny: man, he made a comment in 2016, and I think it still holds true here that we don't always get the leadership we want, but we always get the leadership we deserve.
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Manny: Thanks.
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Jeezy: with that statement you're making, Manny. I want to bring bring a a tweet that we discussed when it comes to the.
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Manny: Deserve.
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Jeezy: I was sharing with Manny that there was a post that was made
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Jeezy: by Big Donnie, and and Donald said this, and I'll read the Tweet that was put on true social.
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Jeezy: He said, that I'm very surprised that Democrats who fought a hard and valiant fight in the 2020 Presidential election raising a record amount of money didn't have lots of money left over now they are being squeezed by vendors and others.
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Jeezy: I would strongly recommend we as a party, and for the sake of desperately needed unity. Do
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Jeezy: we have a lot of money left over, and that our biggest asset in the campaign was earned? Media, and that doesn't cost very much make America
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Jeezy: great. Again.
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Jeezy: I was taken aback.
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Manny: Really can't tell if he's trolling or he's being serious.
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Jeezy: I when I read that Tweet, I'm like, okay, because we all know. And y'all know, here at the pod that, regardless of how you feel about Donald Trump. We here hold him at a very high level, as being one of the masterful trollers in the political history. But when I read that. And I was like, is he trolling?
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Jeezy: Or is he being for real?
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Jeezy: And if he's being for real.
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Jeezy: who is this man? Who is this President, that we're gonna get.
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Manny: Man. It's it. Ew.
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Manny: it runs consistently. We usually hear this about every president in there who gets 8 years in that second term where that's your legacy, like everyone's like. Oh, let's talk about. You know he has this. He can do this, this and this absent all that. This is what I'm talking about them as a person. They don't have any voters that they have to really listen to anymore, like there's no future election for them.
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Manny: So that second cycle is really an opportunity. Is their legacy
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Manny: like you don't have anyone policing you.
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Manny: So what you going to do like? Do I feel as though trump
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Manny: as hard as he goes?
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Manny: I think he really does care what people think about him.
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Manny: Big big Donnie somewhere has a real soft man, because, remember, pre pre 2,015 of him running the you know, the the black community. We we rocked with trump.
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Manny: So now I think he's in a situation where he's like this is really about what I'm leaving leaving behind. So I see this Tweet. And I'm just like I can't tell if he's trolling or he's like, Look, I'm gonna try to do this because again.
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Manny: I don't believe that at his core belief structure.
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Manny: he is a republican.
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Manny: Like. I don't know if he's a Democrat, but I know he's he's not a Republican like. Yeah. The the biggest thing he talks about is tariffs and whatnot, and where I'm very much pro free trade, because I believe it helps everybody out, and it helps us. It helps us especially with how we spend and how our money is incorporated across the world. It is advantageous for us to continue with free trade, so I don't know like this is
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Manny: this.
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Jeezy: And I and I and I when I read it, I'm like.
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Jeezy: you know, to to your point.
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Jeezy: you know. Trump is, you could tell that he's a person that cares about what people think, because people that say the opposite of positive things about him. You could tell it strikes a chord with him.
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Manny: Right.
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Jeezy: Like it really bothers him.
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Jeezy: You know, as a grown man, it should not bother you that much unless you really, deeply, truly care what people say about you.
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Manny: And he's been shot at like.
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Manny: Like. I would assume that having a assassination attempt come within. If we'll be honest, multiple inches of you dying like I feel like that that changes that should change at least how you go on about life. Yeah. Yeah. And
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Manny: May, here's the big question around this is, who are trump supporters.
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Manny: and when I say who are trump supporters, I'm really talking from the standpoint of.
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Manny: are they people that just will follow and do anything that trump says
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Manny: or do. They have core principles and beliefs?
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Manny: And that's why they supported them. Because if they really just, are they going to believe everything and do everything he says.
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Manny: if they are that, and he does go down this unity path, this, this 4 years may not be as bad as we're as a lot of people are anticipating.
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Jeezy: The app, but.
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Manny: Is it.
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Jeezy: As a backup supporter. I just thought about that. I'm like trump. Go out here now. He's do that. They got to be unified with everybody and spread unity. And and that's what our message.
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Manny: That's not with them. That's not them. We saw.
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Manny: Right. We saw immediately after the election. I believe the FBI and local authorities are investigating African, American and Hispanic students on campuses that were getting text messages, either saying, Hey, we're going to report for being deported, or report to your nearest cotton field to start picking cotton.
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Manny: Yeah, White.
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Jeezy: We have to understand that when it comes to Maga supporters, not all of them. I'm not going to say all of them, but we know that there is a level of divisiveness. And I call it what it is just.
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Manny: Racism.
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Jeezy: I come to.
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Manny: I was. Gonna say, you're about to be real clean. With that. I was like.
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Jeezy: Yeah, look.
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Manny: And no, no, that's my job to be clean about it. No, the there are some true races that Donald Trump makes feel comfortable.
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Manny: And that's a problem.
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Jeezy: And those people that feel empowered. And we talked about that these people that have been, whether it has been blatant racist individuals or people that were closet racist. He brought those people out to feel like they had a voice. Now that you they feel like they have a voice, and you turn around.
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Jeezy: And now you want to unify the nation.
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Jeezy: That's that's kind of weird. You know what I mean. That's kind of a weird position to be in as one of those Maga supporters.
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Jeezy: and I'm interested in seeing how does he walk this path? Because again, we're talking about legacy.
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Jeezy: There's 75 million people that voted for him. But there's also 70 million that did.
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Manny: That did not.
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Jeezy: You want, if you want to. If you if you get in a conversation of legacy.
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Jeezy: you got to do something about those 70 million.
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Manny: Right.
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Jeezy: Now you might not get all of them.
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Jeezy: But you need something that at the end of the day, when these 4 years are up, and the dust is settled, and you're done, and you know your life will be whatever it is, and there'll be books and things written about you.
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Jeezy: Will they hold you to the flame of what mistakes you made in that 1st
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Manny: Right.
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Jeezy: Or will it be?
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Jeezy: Hey? This guy wasn't.
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Jeezy: This guy didn't know what he was doing.
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Jeezy: Kind of came in, made a mess, made some mistakes.
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Jeezy: but it was given another chance, and he did something that we could say really
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Manny: Right, and I think
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Manny: I don't know. I don't think anyone knows. But if you watch some of the movements that have been happening since that not externally. So all non-us at the EU come in immediately. Say, Hey, hey! We sure do like your your natural gas. So how about we start importing that here
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Manny: you you had Hamas come out and say, Hey, hey! We want peace. We want peace like.
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Jeezy: Hmm.
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Manny: You see Russia, who's come out and said, Hey, hey? You remember what we said about trading gas and oil in a different currency? Now we're going to stick with the dollar. But this is real wild.
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Manny: I don't know. I don't know, and that's why this is going to be extremely interesting over the next 4 years.
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Jeezy: It it will. And and I think also, you know.
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Jeezy: when you talk about legacy, and you know, being domestic and abroad as well.
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Jeezy: he still has to navigate through his his legal issues as well, too.
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Jeezy: So you know, that almost speaks to having to kind of go double time to say, Okay, even if this thing falls in a way that may be damaging to my legacy, I have buffered enough of my legacy
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Jeezy: within the country that I. They can say, Okay, yeah.
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Jeezy: He was a convicted felon that you know, that ended up getting XY. And Z. But when he left Job growth was this the nation? Was this energy? Was this worldwide and abroad, this that was, you know, he's able to. And I think that's what he's focused on man. At least that's what I hope. He's.
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Manny: Hope he's focused on.
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Jeezy: Yeah, cause cause he. He has a lot of work to do in the legacy department.
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Manny: It's lots
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Manny: it will be. It'll be interesting. I think the one thing, not the one thing. There's so many things I'm going to stop saying one thing on this podcast because there's always more than one thing that we're looking and paying attention to.
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Manny: But
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Manny: if you go back, you. You know we can always look back historically and
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Manny: Well, one of the questions I asked myself is, why did Trump lose in 2020,
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Manny: and when I went back and looked at it
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Manny: there were 2 real issues that sunk his boat.
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Manny: Well, 3. But I put an asterisk on a 3. The 2 1st one Covid
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Manny: people did not like how Covid was handled under trump in that in that 1st year.
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Manny: Yeah, I think he made big mistakes there.
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Manny: And I think that was a big driver to why, he lost
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Manny: additionally. The the other thing that was really big during that time was the the racial and civil. Unrest.
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Manny: We didn't really have that. This go around. You know it. I'm sorry. Let me not say we didn't have that this go around. It was not done at a national level like we had seen it during the 2020 cycle.
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Manny: You know. We weren't seeing the the protests, and there were no high profile. Murders that had occurred
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Manny: so, and then the 3rd one that I have listed out there with an asterisk is
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Manny: so it's kind of like, all right. So if we didn't have these issues, and then on top of that, Biden was a weak candidate. Biden was the the begruntled selection in 2020. Not the overall choice. Yeah.
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Manny: so I think it'll be. I think it'll be interesting. To see kind of how this plays out, though.
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Jeezy: Man, I definitely agree. And to that point, Manny, you know, had things better be been a little bit better in that 1st term.
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Jeezy: you know, Biden would we'd be coming out of his second term.
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Jeezy: And I think some of those things he may have learned, and I think going forward as we see how things
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Jeezy: I think we'll see what what happens. Do we get some of the same? Do we get different, and as far as better do we get different as far as
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Jeezy: worse.
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Jeezy: we'll see. We'll see how it happens. So
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Jeezy: that is our thoughts on the election, and this is a topic I'm sure that we will.
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Jeezy: Rehash and revisit. Hello.
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Manny: One thing we ask for is content, and I believe, with with big Donnie.
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Jeezy: We don't get.
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Manny: We're going to get some content. So.
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Jeezy: Don't get it
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Jeezy: well with that being said, that is our election coverage, and we will, as again as the weeks and months and things play out and start taking shape.
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Jeezy: There may be some parts and aspects of this that we we will have to revisit. That will
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Jeezy: kind of make everything come full circle. So with that being said, guys, you know what our next segment is.
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Manny: Hmm.
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Jeezy: the pickle of the week.
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Manny: We got your pickle.
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Manny: we got your pickle.
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Manny: We got your pickle.
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Manny: So
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Manny: who?
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Manny: Who's in a pickle?
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Manny: There's so many people who could be in a pickle. Who do we got this week?
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Jeezy: As my four-year-old likes to say. She says, who body, who body is the pickle?
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Jeezy: Everybody is the pickle of the week.
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Jeezy: and that is
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Jeezy: the entire Democratic party. They are in the pickle man.
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Jeezy: They got.
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Manny: Do some soul, Sir
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Manny: soul, searching some finger, pointing, pointing.
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Jeezy: Man look.
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Jeezy: I think some real conversations
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Jeezy: and real leadership and real change needs to happen, and it needs to happen real quick. I hope you all realize that. Don't try this last minute stuff that y'all did this time.
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Jeezy: but they are in a pickle, certainly, because,
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Jeezy: man, there is no blue wall. You you lost every single battleground state.
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Jeezy: We still are waiting on the results of the house, but
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Jeezy: you know you're being out flipped in the house.
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Manny: Look. Trump said he was going to build a wall, and maybe he wasn't talking about Mexico.
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Jeezy: That walls up north.
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Manny: Bro.
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Jeezy: But you know the Democratic party man has a serious challenge in a pickle seriously that they're in because they have to. In my opinion they have to reshape restructure.
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Jeezy: What this party is going to be. One thing I've always told Manny, and
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Jeezy: for those of you that don't know I'm a registered Democrat.
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Jeezy: And what.
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Manny: What?
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Manny: No.
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Manny: get me off this show. I didn't sign up for this.
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Jeezy: So for those of you that are listening. That is why we are able to give you all the content that we can, because we come from 2 different sides of the aisle, and I'm pretty sure that
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Jeezy: had we not shared that information with you guys, you'd probably be wondering where we fall at which tells you that we have some integrity here at partner politics. We call it straight down the middle, regardless of what side we're on.
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Jeezy: But I think, as a Democrat. One thing that I've always shared, that I envy of the Republican party is that
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Jeezy: sharp blood mentality?
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Jeezy: Right? They they, if this is what they're going to do. They're going to attack it. They're going to go for it. It's going to be, hey, all or nothing. And if and if you ain't on board with it, then get off the ship, because that's what we're doing.
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Jeezy: We don't have that in the Democratic party.
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Jeezy: I would. I've always stated that I believe that we're just. We're just too weak.
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Jeezy: We're not strong, we're not. We're not. We don't have that fighting, that that that shark seeing blood mentality? When oftentimes it's presented to us. And I think that you know
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Jeezy: we have to get some serious leadership.
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Jeezy: In place. I think that maybe one of the things that we need to definitely look at is
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Jeezy: man. We gotta get some of the old folks up out of here we gotta get. We gotta get some of the old folks up out of here. Bro.
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Manny: Why is Nancy Pelosi?
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Jeezy: Why is she selling right.
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Manny: Why is she still here.
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Jeezy: Hey? We ain't forgot about you, Chuck Schumer, either.
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Manny: No! Hey!
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Jeezy: You need to get up out of here, too. You need to get up out of here, too. But I think that we need to really start, maybe looking at
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Jeezy: possibly younger.
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Jeezy: more stronger leadership
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Jeezy: that will kind of guide us towards a direction of where we want the party to be because the current infrastructure of the Democratic party
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Jeezy: ain't gonna ain't gonna hit.
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Jeezy: And I think, depending on how the next 4 years go goes with trump. I think 2028 is going to be a very pivotal year
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Jeezy: once, he said and done, and once things start to settle in, where do we see, is it a moment that Democrats can say, Hey, you've got 4 more years of this, and look how it affected the country, be it negatively. Now we run and do those issues and show you this is why we truly need change next generation leadership. And we have that established and in place?
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Jeezy: Or is it that
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Jeezy: the Republican party knocks us out of the Park? And now we really, as a Democratic party, are in a pickle?
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Jeezy: So I think there. There has to be some some changes in our leadership and structure, and just overall identity of what and who we are as a party.
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Manny: The the 1 point that I'll hit on that because I think you hit hit it all.
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Manny: There's some people that need to go.
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Jeezy: Hmm.
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Manny: Yeah. Going back to the age thing.
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Manny: Nancy, 84. You got to go. Stein Hoyer 85. You got to go.
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Manny: Auntie Auntie Maxine, we love you.
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Jeezy: I was about to say, you gotta.
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Manny: But you ain't be 86. You got to go, Bill Pascrell. 87, Grace, not Palato.
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Manny: I'm definitely not saying that last name. 87 got to go Republican side. Chuck, chuck, Grassley 91. 0, you got to go.
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Jeezy: Oh!
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Manny: You got to go, Hal Rogers. 86
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Manny: got gotta go.
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Jeezy: You gotta go.
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Manny: Cocaine Mitch
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Manny: 82 got to go. John Carter. 83.
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Manny: That exits on the way. Exits on the left.
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Manny: and Kay Grainer 81. You got to go too.
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Jeezy: Gotta go.
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Manny: Dollar, 80.
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Jeezy: You gotta go.
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Manny: Y'all. Y'all remember the Second World War. Y'all gotta go.
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Jeezy: Right.
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Manny: Y'all got to go.
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Jeezy: When you, broadcast, was in black and white when you took your oath. Why are you still.
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Manny: Why are you here?
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Jeezy: You don't even know what.
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Manny: Don't you guys?
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Manny: Don't you got grandkids? You need to be playing with like, why are you here? Go home, go home, Roger, go home.
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Jeezy: At some point, and this is a discussion for another day. But does there need to be some type of
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Jeezy: some type of limits.
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Manny: Man so. And that's the other thing that this again. Why, I don't know what we're about to see in this next Trump Presidency, because one of the things he was talking about is term limits, and that's what everyone's been asking for. There's no reason that you should be in Congress for 20 plus years. It don't make no sense. Get out.
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Manny: go home, go home and be a family person.
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Manny: Go home right.
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Jeezy: Your views when you came in.
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Jeezy: Do not match the current, the current layout of the country, and that is, that is my problem.
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Manny: Congress. The decisions that are made in Congress affect people
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Manny: instantly but largely is not felt until 1520 years down the road.
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Manny: Nancy, you ain't about to be around to see most of this stuff come and impact you go home.
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Jeezy: Oh, chocolate!
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Manny: You, too, go home.
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Jeezy: I'm here to do the will of my people, and you ate.
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Manny: Your people are gone, most of your people gone.
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Manny: Whoa! Who people.
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Jeezy: Talking to? Who are you.
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Manny: You talking to you about to shoot a thriller, thriller music video having
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Manny: come pop back. No, go home.
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Jeezy: If you, if you, if you talk about, I represent my people, and the people that you represent are the spirits of the people that have already gone on before you. You need to leave.
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Manny: I've already transitioned to the realm of the ancestors. But that's that's a problem like we saw it
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Manny: going back to the founding, you know George Washington was like, I'm not going to do a 3rd term
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Manny: because we need to be able to hand this off and then to keep going. Everyone wants this big celebration when they die. Look.
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Manny: no.
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Manny: you're you're hurting. You're hurting us by sticking around, and that's at all levels of government. Yep, yep, go home.
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Jeezy: Out what speech it was, and he had when George addressed that. And I believe Abraham Lincoln said some of that as well, too, that it's not beneficial for a country for somebody in our modern terms to be a career politician of this magnitude.
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Manny: Right.
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Jeezy: The country changes way too much for you to stick around, you know, and then it becomes a point of who's bidding are you doing? Is it the people, or is it yours? Because that's not what you're here to do? And I think we see a lot of that
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Jeezy: in Washington. But again, like you said, That's something that trump has has talked about doing so, then is that a check mark in, you know, if that happens? Is that a check mark in the good legacy? Bad legacy, you know, in the good legacy department, we'll see, you know, but I think that
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Jeezy: there has to be something that that needs to be done with the Democratic party. We'll see, I think, that all of them need to sit back and look at themselves in the mirror and get and get real. And say, look, we got to get out of this pickle.
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Jeezy: because if we don't.
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Jeezy: you know, we won't have a chance.
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Manny: They got. They got 2 years to start to figure this out. They got to midterms like, and that's not a lot of time. So.
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Jeezy: At all.
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Manny: Yeah.
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Jeezy: See what happened.
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Manny: Going to see. We're going to see, and we'll also see if the Republicans start resting on their lawyers.
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Manny: You done got yourself a big victory. Are y'all gonna coast.
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Jeezy: Right.
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Manny: 2028 will be an open seat
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Manny: for the Presidency.
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Jeezy: Yes, sir.
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Manny: I'll go.
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Jeezy: Yeah, that's.
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Manny: Y'all got 4 years to figure it out. What y'all gonna do.
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Jeezy: Lord willing in the creek gonna rise, the boys here part in the politics gonna be
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Jeezy: we're going to be primed and ready to give y'all what you need for that for that 2028 election. Because I'm telling you that open seat. It's gonna be like, I hope it's like game of thrones. Bro.
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Manny: And and.
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Jeezy: But to start seeing we started seeing these houses rise, y'all.
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Manny: Go ahead and start the ground movement for for me and Jeezy to host the debate.
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Jeezy: Yes, yes.
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Manny: Because we know that's what y'all really want. Y'all want us to host the debate, and we want to host it for y'all look.
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Jeezy: Because it don't matter. It don't matter how big the party is. One thing you can assure yourselves that the boys will never lose sight of who we are as just being the genuine people that give you the content that you listen to on a week to week basis. So we can't be bought. We might. We might take a donation.
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Jeezy: but we can't be both.
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Manny: We can't be bought.
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Jeezy: So, if so, if that is the case, you know, we're going to ask the questions and we go and we gonna keep it real with them. So you know, I think that you know, we'll see how these things play out, man. So Democrats sort of pickle of the week. So outside of that we are at the conclusion of our show.
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Jeezy: But 1st we must give you what our spotlight of the week will be. So, Manny, what's your spotlight?
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Manny: Man. I think it's where where all eyes will be nationally for the next several weeks. What happens with this transition? I think it. Donald is going to meet with President Biden in the Oval office, I believe, either Wednesday or Thursday. So that's going to be
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Manny: a very interesting meeting, putting those rivals back against each other
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Manny: that. And then also, as we start hearing names of who he's going to put in the Cabinet.
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Manny: and I know people people are starting to get real concerned about that. Remember, everybody
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Manny: still has to get approved by Congress to step in those positions.
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Manny: And I can almost say, look. I don't want to predict anything, because the one prediction that I had that was completely right is that Mark Robinson took this L, and we were the first, st and you heard it here first.st We said it first, st
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Manny: but I think there's almost a 0% chance that Rfk gets up gets any type of official secretary position.
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Jeezy: I am. I'm joining you in that prediction. I when I was reading some stuff and and looking, and I was like.
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Jeezy: I don't think that he's gonna
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Jeezy: I don't think that he's going to get it. And I think that trump might have been smart to just kind of throw him that bone, thinking that
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Jeezy: oh, you know, Dom.
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Manny: Oh, yeah, do the thing, do the thing and stuff.
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Jeezy: For me, but it's like, no, this ain't a favor that he's. I don't think he necessarily can pull for you. Rk, and
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Jeezy: I'm going to say rightfully so.
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Manny: I don't think he had any. I don't think he has any true intentions about giving him any type of real functional position like
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Manny: no, he you got you got sucked in because you were going to be problematic for him going down. And he's like, How do I shut up this problem, hey? Hey? Come work with me? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Jeezy: Hit the bullet.
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Manny: Look during the Presidency. My belief is that when Rfk. Pulls up to the White House, Donnie is going to, you know that picture of Ben Affleck standing outside, going. That's how he's going to look when his chief of staff comes in and says, Yes, Robert Kennedy is waiting for you.
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Jeezy: Bobby.
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Manny: What, what.
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Jeezy: Bobby again.
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Manny: What is he? How did he get past Secret service?
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Manny: I thought I'd just fix this.
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Jeezy: Hey, man, he! I don't think I think I can agree with you. I don't think that he he's gonna get in, but.
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Manny: We'll see. But there's a lot of jockeying for positions that we've already seen, and we'll see how it kind of pans out, and names that are coming out. But again, people, still they, these people, will still need some level of Democratic support before they get placed in these positions. You know Republican State ain't run the Senate up to 60, so they still got to get through that, and we'll see how that plays out.
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Jeezy: Yeah, man, I think as we as the weeks go on, we'll see how the Cabinet and those appointed
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Jeezy: people will take shape. And and the world's response to Trump's reelection. Man.
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Jeezy: we've already talked about it. We've seen some of it
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Jeezy: with with, you know. Zelensky was the 1st one to call.
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Manny: It had to be down bad.
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Jeezy: He had that he had that that number on speed. Now he was like.
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Manny: Fumbling for that phone like.
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Jeezy: Call and call quick!
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Jeezy: Interpreter won't be here till noon. Don't care.
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Manny: Okay, we'll figure it out.
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Manny: Google, translate Google, translate, help me out.
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Jeezy: I see the postman that that Don Jr. Said that he was like, Hey, man, do what you got to do now, because it allows about to run out.
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Jeezy: I'm in a pickle. Look at.
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Manny: And we won't talk about it today. We'll save that for next week. But allegedly there is a plan that the Trump Administration has been putting together to potentially end the war. So we'll touch on that next week.
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Jeezy: Oh, so y'all get a you get a little treat for next week, man. So yeah, how the world will respond to this reelection, man with it. You know we have the issue with the war that's going on
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Jeezy: with Israel and Hamas, and you know, Iran, and how all that will will go down in response to this. So you know, those are our spotlights, man. And again, I want to say, Thank you for tuning in, not just for this episode. But again, the live stream.
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Jeezy: For all the episodes that we have, we now have the podcast on Youtube.
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Jeezy: So if you if Youtube is your platform of choice. You can hear.
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Manny: There for y'all.
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Jeezy: Over there, we have those dropping in. And again, we're on any streaming podcast. Platform that you do enjoy, be it prime, spotify, apple, whatever we have you covered. So with that being said, this is episode 9 of pardon the politics, podcast manny, you got anything for the people.
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Manny: Nothing we we love. Y'all. We will see y'all next week.
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Jeezy: All right. Y'all all hearts and minds clear. We'll see y'all next week. Take care, peace.