Primaries, Pickles & Pocketbooks

It's Mother's Day weekend, but Jeezy, Manny, and Chuck are still on the job. Season 3, Episode 19 of Pardon the Politics starts with the guys giving a salute to moms and mother figures everywhere, making it clear that pets don't count, before getting into the main topics.

The episode starts in Ohio and Indiana, where last week's primaries gave an early preview of the 2026 midterms. In Ohio, Sherrod Brown won the Democratic primary with almost 90% of the vote, setting up a big Senate race against current senator John Husted. The hosts talk about how Brown's name helps him, why Husted's path to the general election is tougher than it seems, and why Vivek Ramaswamy's role in the Ohio governor's race could be the most interesting story in politics right now. If the hantavirus situation changes, and the hosts have thoughts on what that could mean for a public health doctor running for governor, Amy Acton's position could take the race in an unexpected direction.

Next, the attention shifts to Indiana, where Trump made a $12 to $13 million statement to Republican state legislators across the country. Five out of seven Trump-backed challengers defeated incumbents who refused to redraw districts in the middle of the decade. The hosts call this a clear punishment move, with an eye on 2028. Manny points out that this spending was 4,000 times higher than the last cycle, all for state senate seats that pay thirty thousand dollars a year. Chuck brings up that the Indiana Constitution says redistricting should follow the federal census. Their conclusion: Ohio showed us a battleground, while Indiana gave us a warning.

After that, the discussion moves to the economy, and the hosts are straightforward about the situation. Chuck shares the real numbers: 115,000 jobs were added in April, but 83,387 job cuts were also announced that month. The unemployment rate is at 4.3% and hasn't changed, but the hosts point out that this number leaves out many people. Manny points out the most important data: the University of Michigan consumer sentiment index is at its lowest in 74 years, even lower than in 2008 or throughout COVID. The economy is now split into a K-shape, and if you're not near the top, the numbers you see in the news don't match your reality.

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Jeezy: Hello, world, and welcome to Pardon the Politics Podcast, Season 3, Episode 19. I am your co-host, Jeezy. On one side, I have my brother Manny. Manny, how you doing, brother?

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Manny: We back for another…

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Jeezy: On the other side, I got the chairman of Chaos himself, Chuck. My brother, how you doing, brother?

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Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, Lee, we here, baby.

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Jeezy: That's good.

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Jeezy: Let's go, the boys are back for another episode. To our listeners, welcome, welcome, welcome, we are so excited to be… Well, I don't know if I can say we're excited, but we're back for another episode.

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Manny: I mean, that's real, because sometimes we get tired of reading this news.

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Jeezy: Hey, sometimes it just… it get a little old sometimes. What Johnny Bravo used to say is getting really old really fast.

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Jeezy: But to our listeners, we appreciate you, tuning in for another episode, and before we begin to do anything to talk about any topics, the first thing I would like to mention is… Happy Mother's Day, man!

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Manny: Happy…

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Chairman of Chaos: Yes, yes, yes, yes.

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Jeezy: Anybody that…

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Chairman of Chaos: Mother's Day.

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Jeezy: Whether you are a mother, a mother figure, we definitely want to say.

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Chairman of Chaos: Or.

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Manny: Bruh.

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Manny: If at any point You have ever fed me?

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Manny: Be it after a school, after a church activity.

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Chairman of Chaos: That's real.

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Manny: boarding activity.

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Jeezy: Hey, bro.

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Manny: Happy Mother.

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Chairman of Chaos: That's so real. That's so real. To some…

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Jeezy: Some of you mothers that champion, raising these children.

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Jeezy: We hope that you, enjoyed your day, that everything went well, and I just want to say this.

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Jeezy: While we acknowledge mothers and mother figures.

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Jeezy: Mother figures, we gotta do with an asterisk.

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Manny: Oh, good.

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Jeezy: If you got a fur baby, Mother's Day is…

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Chairman of Chaos: Oh, no. Only humans.

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Manny: No, hold on.

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Chairman of Chaos: Only humans. Only humans.

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Manny: Only humans.

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Jeezy: Only humans.

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Chairman of Chaos: Please don't get me started on my diatribe about people and their pets, please.

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Jeezy: Well, another one, I mean, but what if I identify as a… nevermind.

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Manny: Nope. That's another podcast for another day.

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Chairman of Chaos: Do you have… nevermind. I'm sorry.

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Jeezy: Bruh, I was setting the early ALU, bruh.

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Chairman of Chaos: Listen, I turned it over and just handed it to the referee out of bounds, because…

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Chairman of Chaos: We trying to take this thing somewhere, and I was about to take it somewhere here. We don't want to go, but yeah.

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Manny: I touched the… I touched the ball, coach, and it's the championship game. Touched the ball.

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Chairman of Chaos: That's one of my… I'm sorry, G, I know you might move forward.

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Jeezy: Go ahead, bro.

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Chairman of Chaos: I hate that con- I hate that Manny. Bruh.

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Manny: Accountability, man.

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Chairman of Chaos: Accountability to your sportsmanship? Screw sportsmanship. No, I'm not happy that I lost this game. I'm ready to fight somebody. Get out my face.

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Chairman of Chaos: Alright, yeah, yeah, good, good game, no, it ain't good game, bye.

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Chairman of Chaos: I'm sorry.

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Jeezy: To all the mothers, though, you know, to the mothers that tune in and the mother figures, we hope that you enjoyed, your day. And I just will say this as we move on.

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Jeezy: If you had a great Mother's Day, return the favor when Father's Day comes.

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Manny: Yeah, I got a month.

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Chairman of Chaos: Well, since you did… since you went there… since you went there. Since you went there.

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Jeezy: I came on the inbound with the alley this side.

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Chairman of Chaos: I'm gonna duck it. Out of bounds play. This is why you cannot identify as whatever you want to identify as, because Mother's Day does not translate the same when it comes to Father's Day. You're not a father, and you're not a mother.

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Chairman of Chaos: Plain and simple. I don't care how loving, caring, nurturing, nurturing… no.

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Chairman of Chaos: Absolutely not.

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Jeezy: Every year, at Father's Day, we're gonna have our Father's Day rant.

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Chairman of Chaos: Oh, I'm…

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Jeezy: And now we have the Chairman of Chaos along with us.

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Jeezy: And normally, when we give our rant on Father's Day, it's just me and Brother Manny here.

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Chairman of Chaos: We got another…

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Jeezy: Another guy got another tear of ignorance with us.

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Chairman of Chaos: Oh, bruh.

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Manny: We got some things we gotta get off our chests this year.

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Jeezy: Yes, sir.

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Chairman of Chaos: We need to establish an Auntie's Day and an Uncle's Day.

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Jeezy: We do. We do. We do.

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Chairman of Chaos: So, so, because somebody… because even the mother figures, you're more of an auntie than a mother.

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Chairman of Chaos: You give motherly love in some aspects, but it's more auntie. I can give you away. I can send you back home.

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Chairman of Chaos: That… that… that mother, I… I can't get rid of… well, the good ones, anyway. Yeah.

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Jeezy: How about saying, you know.

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Chairman of Chaos: Losing Isaiah.

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Jeezy: I'm about hating this.

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Jeezy: Nazam, mama, definitely.

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Jeezy: Holiday Heart, that mama with trash.

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Chairman of Chaos: That's another one. Ease by you.

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Jeezy: But look, we not gonna, you know what I'm saying? The observation of Mother's Day to pull out some of the trash mothers, we ain't gonna run through that. The good ones, happy Mother's Day.

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Chairman of Chaos: Shout out. Happy Mother's Day.

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Jeezy: You steal?

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Jeezy: While you still have time, and as they say in church, and while the blood is still warming your veins.

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Jeezy: You stay ahead.

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Chairman of Chaos: Amen. Yes, sir.

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Jeezy: Well, brothers, we gotta get into our topics for the day, and I think the…

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Jeezy: First, what we wanna do, we're gonna take a trip.

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Jeezy: And, there was a couple of primaries that took place, this past week. So, the first, place that I want to go, we're gonna travel to Ohio. So, our first topic for this, this episode are the primaries that happen, and a couple of states that we're going to discuss on this episode, and the first one will be Ohio.

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Jeezy: So, Ohio is just, is not just another state on the map. There was something that took place, this past weekend. I think that you can classify it as a,

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Jeezy: test case of whether Democrats can win back working class voters

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Jeezy: in a state that has been recently moving more Republican over the last decade. So, there's a familiar name for Democrats, and that is Sherrod Brown, who is, basically a Democrat who is saying, we, need someone in Ohio who already knows Ohio.

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Jeezy: He has been on brand for being, you know, pro-labor and connected to the working class voters, but the challenge is that Ohio has gotten tougher, in the last decade for Democrats statewide.

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Jeezy: But on the other end, when you look at the other side, John Husted has the power of incumbency, and Manny has talked about this before in the episode, that power of incumbency, and the Republican trend in Ohio, and the backing of the state GOP machine in Ohio. But because he was appointed.

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Jeezy: Remember that. He was appointed, not elected for the seat. Democrats will try to frame him as someone, who still has to prove himself directly, to the voters. So my first question, and I'm gonna, go to, Manny on this one.

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Jeezy: Do you think that Sherrod Brown, the Democrat, still has enough of the old-school Ohio working-class appeal to win statewide again? Or has Ohio moved, and some would say, too far right.

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Jeezy: For that formula to even work anymore.

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Manny: Man, I guess to sum it up at a high level, we gon' find out. But for the sake of the pod, we gon' find… we gon' find out.

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Manny: But, look, I mean, let's talk about it. So, one of the things that we highlighted a couple weeks back is how are the Democrats going to figure out a way to mess this up?

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Manny: And I actually see this move

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Manny: as them not messing this up, I think this was a very safe decision for them, for a known quantity, and again, knowing Ohio. And remember also the state that we're talking about. This is also the state that elected John Kasich.

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Manny: As governor. Yeah. So, center-right, at its core, I would say. So, center-right, so…

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Manny: To have a known quantity, to have someone that you're not having to figure out.

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Manny: I think it's going to help.

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Manny: And then also, the numbers. Like, he crushed Ron Kincaid. Yeah.

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Chairman of Chaos: Beautiful. Like…

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Manny: throttling. It's one of those beating like…

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Chairman of Chaos: Fuck, yeah.

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Chairman of Chaos: Thralls them.

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Jeezy: That throttle was egregious, right?

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Manny: It was one of those losses, like…

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Jeezy: Yeah.

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Manny: You lost really bad.

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Jeezy: Yeah, yeah.

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Manny: Why did you put your name on the ballot?

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Chairman of Chaos: Why didn't you even show up? Yes.

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Jeezy: They have, like, almost, like, 90%, almost, like…

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Chairman of Chaos: 89.5 to 10.5.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, bro.

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Manny: So, I think…

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Jeezy: At that point, we gotta fight.

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Chairman of Chaos: I gotta find some way to find my man.

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Manny: So, I think it's gonna be real interesting. I think he's a safe pick. Again, somebody who's not having to really introduce himself.

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Manny: To the… to the voting public.

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Manny: And I think that is what, John Hughes did, to your point, is going to have to do. He's gotta prove himself to the voting public.

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Jeezy: Yeah.

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Manny: that money that's getting ready to come to Ohio

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Manny: from outside grooves, from PACs, that was coming anyway to defend the seat.

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Jeezy: Yeah.

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Manny: So, John is gonna have to get out here and prove himself to the voting public.

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Manny: in a time where Republicans aren't

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Manny: aren't in good position. They're… I would say they are losing position by the day.

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Manny: So… but then at the heart of it, Ohio has been…

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Manny: conservative for weeks. Not weeks, I'm sorry, cycles. Entire cycles. Remember, Kamala Harris lost Ohio by 11 points.

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Manny: So, that is not a insignificant amount.

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Manny: So, it is still going to be a hill that Sherrod has to climb, but I think it is an easier hill when the public already knows you.

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Jeezy: Knows you guys.

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Manny: And then, it also doesn't hurt that the fact that Republicans aren't doing well. Now, I think the question for Houston…

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Manny: that he and a whole bunch of other people are gonna have to really figure out is how close am I tying myself to, Vivek? How close am I tying myself to Trump?

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Manny: And those are internal decisions that he's gonna have to process through.

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Jeezy: Yeah. I agree, Brother Chuck.

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Chairman of Chaos: First and foremost for me, an older white man named Shirai Brown.

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Manny: Look, I thought… is the most.

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Chairman of Chaos: And I'm sure there's quite a few of our listeners who had no idea who he is. When Manny speaks of him being a no name and no entity, that's in the Ohio sector. In Ohio. In Ohio. He has an extensive history in the political space.

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Chairman of Chaos: Holding many… three… at least 3 different, levels of political, power. So, yes, he's a very known entity there, but for me, when I found out about him.

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Chairman of Chaos: I was like, he smelled it like… Gerard. Like, we do.

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Chairman of Chaos: Like, we do. So, so for…

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Manny: There have been two people, politically, that have those names, them and, Jerome Powell.

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Jeezy: I was about to say Jerome Powell?

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Chairman of Chaos: Jerome Powell, yeah. Jerome Powell is the goat of one.

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Manny: Like, I could have sworn you were black.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yes, very much so.

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Jeezy: Your family must have been down for the cause. Freedom fighters.

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Chairman of Chaos: But, to the point… of…

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Chairman of Chaos: how the state of Ohio is gonna turn up and turn out in the vote, and the messaging that is gonna come across. It's gonna be interesting to… to your point, Manny, to see how Houston aligns himself, and what's his message gonna be, because…

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Chairman of Chaos: Realistically, you… everybody sees where we are. They know what position we're in, and I'm… I'm…

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Chairman of Chaos: interested to see how close Vivek aligns himself to Trump.

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Manny: Yeah.

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Chairman of Chaos: in the general, and good brother Manny has said time and time again, not that the primaries are a breeze, but it's much easier to win that primary. But when you come to that big dance.

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Chairman of Chaos: When that big dance comes around, you have to have your ducks in a row to make sure that you can, step onto the plate and perform. And so, right now.

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Chairman of Chaos: It is a tight race,

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Chairman of Chaos: Between Houston and Brown, I think the latest numbers show Brown has a slight lead, by, like, 2 percentage points, but that could flip at any moment. That is nowhere near anything to even…

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Jeezy: And isn't that, in typical polling.

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Manny: Oh, yeah.

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Jeezy: within the margin of error?

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Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, that's in the morning.

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Manny: Especially at this point in the year. Like, we're getting ready to hit summertime. One thing I do want to call out.

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Manny: before our listeners, before they go look up Houston and all that, Houston is known statewide. He, you know, he ran for Lieutenant Governor and was Lieutenant Governor in the lead-up before he actually got appointed.

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Manny: But it is different.

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Manny: when you're running as Lieutenant Governor, you're also, like, low-key running on a ticket with the governor.

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Chairman of Chaos: I was about to say, most times with Lieutenant Governor, most people don't pay attention to the Lieutenant Governor.

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Manny: Right. Yeah.

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Chairman of Chaos: They attached their name, yeah, yep.

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Manny: And Sherrod has been in Congress, so he's been at the House, like, he's been on the stage, again, different from a congressional district to a Senate district, but the federal rules change once you step out of it. So that's what we talk about, about having to prove himself.

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Manny: to the voting public as being the guy. You've taken over as the starting quarterback. You are now the guy here.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, man, I mean, not much else to add to that. Knock it out of the park, but it's gonna be interesting,

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Chairman of Chaos: I will say, because they had, compared to many other places, their,

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Chairman of Chaos: The people running. It was such a small number.

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Chairman of Chaos: Houston went unopposed, and, you know, Brown and Kincaid were the two essential people for their primary, where you got some places where you have 3-4 people running. Right.

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Chairman of Chaos: it kind of narrows down, but we want to bring this to you all because we know how essential Ohio is gonna be.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yep. And it's gonna be a very interesting race, for them, for that Senate seat, and…

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Chairman of Chaos: I am… It grinds my gears, and not grinder, But…

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Jeezy: Yeah, Lindsey Graham.

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Chairman of Chaos: Clear that up. Y'all gotta clear that up.

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Chairman of Chaos: The amount of money that is raised, spent, and wasted During election season.

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Chairman of Chaos: the things that we could do with these funds, we… there is so much… we just talked last week about North Carolina and the…

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Chairman of Chaos: the deficit of pay, the deficit of resources allocated to our children. If we really dug into all of these states and all of these areas where these funds and millions and millions upon millions of dollars are not only raised, but spent simply on.

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Manny: TV ads. They're not just gonna keep it in here for shits and giggles, like, oh yeah, it's gonna get thrown around, like.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yes, I don't like the strip club. Like the strip club.

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Chairman of Chaos: The money gets thrown around like the strip club. And as someone who is a staunch proponent, an advocate for the strip club, yes, but…

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Chairman of Chaos: Just to elect an individual

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Chairman of Chaos: there's millions upon millions of dollars that are spent, and essentially wasted. Because why am I seeing this same ad 15 times in an hour block

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Chairman of Chaos: of a TV show, For these same individuals.

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Chairman of Chaos: Like, they're… Campaign finance, There should be a whole different level of reform to campaign finance.

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Chairman of Chaos: And there could be a better allocation of funds, and I'm not gonna harp on this too much.

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Manny: See, Chuck.

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Chairman of Chaos: It's always been a…

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Manny: It's already been an issue of mine. You opened the box, and now I gotta say something, too. If you were a candidate listening to this.

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Manny: I'm about to give you some free advice.

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Manny: There is not a single yard sign.

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Manny: No.

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Chairman of Chaos: I know people don't pay attention to that.

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Manny: You don't need any more yard signs.

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Manny: Set your amount, get that amount, you don't need it.

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Manny: like, so much money is wasted, to your point. Senate Leadership Pack, $79 million, so I gotta assume the Dems are probably coming…

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Manny: With at least 100 bill.

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Manny: And I think in North Carolina, if you think about that sort of race, I would not be shocked if a quarter of a billion dollar…

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Manny: in North Carolina just on that race.

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Manny: And all… and here's the crazy thing, Chuck. All of… all that we're talking about now in terms of the numbers, this is all pre-redistricting.

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Manny: So you start talking about redistricting, there's getting ready to be a whole bunch of money that had already been earmarked.

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Manny: For 20, 28.

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Manny: congressional races that are getting ready… that's getting ready to get moved forward to help secure these at multiple levels, so at the State House and state senate levels across the nation, to secure these bodies.

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Manny: So they're able to redraw these congressional seats.

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Manny: like they need to. So, we are getting ready to see money thrown like crazy.

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Chairman of Chaos: Majesty the Mud.

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Manny: That also being said, if you are looking for a campaign consultant.

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Manny: Reach out to the boys at the pod, we can see what we can.

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Chairman of Chaos: Oh yeah, we got you.

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Chairman of Chaos: We got you. We got you, because I can show you how to spend some money.

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Manny: Bruh. Affective.

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Chairman of Chaos: effectively, or that is effectively.

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Manny: But it's going to be interesting. Like, I think Houston…

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Manny: I think he has some wind in his sails, just because he is an incumbent, but it is not the… the wind in the sails of a true incumbent, like you pointed out, too.

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Chairman of Chaos: Definitely different.

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Jeezy: Well, Chuck mentioned, a name that I want to, bring up, and that is, Vivek.

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Jeezy: Ramaswamy.

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Manny: the Doge category.

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Chairman of Chaos: I'd just like to see Ravish Revy.

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Jeezy: Brad.

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Jeezy: Which…

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Jeezy: Pray me if I'm wrong, but he's not from Ohio, right? Like, he just picked a state that he was gonna run for, and…

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Manny: I think that's what happened.

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Jeezy: Finding move?

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Manny: I think… in fact, hold on, I'm about to look it up, because I'm pretty certain he's not from there. But I think after he got exiled from.

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Chairman of Chaos: No, he was born in Ohio. He was?

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Jeezy: My apologies, my apologies. Okay. Well, the governor's race, it's… this race is going to be fascinating because it is almost like two totally different political

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Jeezy: symbols running against each other. You know, Vivek is… he brings the Trump-aligned, you know, anti-establishment businessman outsider lane. You know, he's wealthy, media savvy.

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Jeezy: And built, you know, for national conservative, politics. But you, on the other hand.

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Jeezy: She's a public health official, you know, COVID era, what she's very known for, her COVID, COVID era.

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Jeezy: crisis management, and someone Democrats can present as a steady and serious, candidate. So, it's been noted that this race is expected to be, for the governor, to be more,

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Jeezy: competitive than the normal Ohio, governor's race, which some are rating it, as a lean Republican instead of a likely Republican. So, I want to ask.

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Jeezy: plays better in 2026, when we look at these two candidates. Ramaswamy's outsider, shake-up-the-system approach that we know him to be, or Acton's steady hand-after-crisis approach?

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Chairman of Chaos: Well, you know, it… The way things are lining up right now.

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Jeezy: Not only do you.

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Chairman of Chaos: you have… the situation that we're in with Iran, and how we are…

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Chairman of Chaos: Fighting for our lives here in America, with the rising gas prices, with the increase in everything else.

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Chairman of Chaos: But we also have, in the news, there's a…

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Chairman of Chaos: Potential another pandemic on the rise.

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Chairman of Chaos: This situation is starting to, shape out, shape up. Evolve. Evolve, good one. Evolve. Good one. With the hantavirus, and if…

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Chairman of Chaos: If we… this is how I can see… foresee it happening.

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Chairman of Chaos: If we get a few cases, here in the U.S.

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Chairman of Chaos: This is gonna play out perfectly for Amy.

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Chairman of Chaos: Listen, okay, listen to what I'm saying, okay? This is the play. If we were to get a few cases and the hysteria of a potential pandemic, another pandemic.

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Chairman of Chaos: presents itself with everything that's going on, because if they play it right, they can really, really leverage RFK gutting the cruise line.

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Manny: Good.

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Chairman of Chaos: team who inspects and makes sure that things are up to par, which was very interesting because the federal government didn't pay for that department, the cruise line industry did.

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Chairman of Chaos: So you gutted something where you received no, no savings. No savings of money, in gutting you.

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Manny: I equate that check to, like, hey, I'm going to this, restaurant.

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Manny: So, for our viewers… view… oh, sorry, our listeners, I'm allergic to.

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Chairman of Chaos: You as the co. View as the co.

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Manny: come. For our listeners, I'm allergic to seafood, so if I order a plate of jambalaya, it's coming with sausage and shrimp.

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Chairman of Chaos: Good, we'll have chicken, too.

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Chairman of Chaos: Oh, yes, Lord.

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Manny: If I tell them no shrimp, if I tell them to hold the shrimp, I don't want the shrimp.

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Manny: guess what they not doing? They're not taking… down.

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Chairman of Chaos: Nope. Same price.

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Manny: That's exactly what they did here with that role with the CDC. It's coming with the meal. It's here.

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Chairman of Chaos: It's here.

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Manny: If you said, no, we don't want this, cool, you're not saving any money. It is still what it is.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yes. But back to my point, and so…

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Chairman of Chaos: the structure of what could happen, and like I said, if there's a few cases here and there.

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Chairman of Chaos: one or two… Okay, but if there's numerous cases that pop up throughout the U.S,

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Chairman of Chaos: Her… her positioning, her expertise, her role… If positioned properly.

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Chairman of Chaos: This is all conditional if-then statements.

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Chairman of Chaos: If positioned properly, then she can leverage that into what I can do and what I can be for you

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Chairman of Chaos: in this space.

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Chairman of Chaos: You already see with his alignment with Trump has gotten us gas prices over $4 a gallon.

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Manny: Right.

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Chairman of Chaos: The price of everything is going on.

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Chairman of Chaos: We are… we lost a whole airline.

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Chairman of Chaos: Because of… Several factors, but one of the key factors was the increased cost of fuel.

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Chairman of Chaos: caused by… this. So, again, If you're a candidate and need some fantastic political consultants.

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Chairman of Chaos: But it's gonna be an interesting race, like I said, because Vivek has to… he has to align himself, but not too much align himself, because we're gonna be honest here.

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Chairman of Chaos: He is not one of them.

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Manny: No. I don't care. We saw that day 3 of the administration when they said, oh, no, this is not your office. You actually don't have an office here in Doge. Go ahead and.

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Jeezy: You need to be across the street.

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Chairman of Chaos: They're gonna use you, and they will allow you to hang around.

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Chairman of Chaos: And so, how he plays this, is gonna be very interesting to see, and moving forward, but that's how I can see it.

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Jeezy: I wanna ask this. I know this has nothing to do with… the topic, per se.

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Jeezy: statement that Chuck just made, though.

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Jeezy: It made me think, what's the difference between Cash App And Vivek.

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Chairman of Chaos: Nothing?

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Chairman of Chaos: That's the difference. And I see it no different than… like, if you… let's be real about it.

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Chairman of Chaos: the venom that was spewed toward Mondami

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Manny: This is New York.

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Chairman of Chaos: It's gonna be Muslim… and that's New York.

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Chairman of Chaos: We're in great… we're in Ohio. The Great White Ohio.

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Jeezy: You guys have a.

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Chairman of Chaos: fake, and they're gonna… The things that they could say.

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Jeezy: Hey, listen.

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Chairman of Chaos: Like, those backroom conversations and those backroom things that are said about him.

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Jeezy: And they happened. Do you remember the video that was circulating on social media, where the white lady was talking to him, and she was like, bruh, I really just came up with you, you Indian, like…

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Manny: That's hard.

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Chairman of Chaos: Griddle!

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Manny: That's a reality he's gonna have to deal with.

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Manny: I think not only from, like, as a candidate standpoint, he has to be able to deal with that mentally.

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Manny: But I think, absent of all that, so let's put all that to the side, I think the other thing Vivek has going against him, he's a billionaire.

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Manny: And right now, billionaires ain't really… ain't too hot in this country. So, I think that's going…

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Manny: I think he is truly a unknown quantity politically.

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Manny: So, I think that's gonna be going against him.

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Manny: I think how he's gonna tie himself to Trump.

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Chairman of Chaos: Exactly. That's why I said he has to walk… he has to walk a very delicate line of the alignment with Trump.

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Chairman of Chaos: But… I'm with Trump, but I'm not 100% Trump.

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Jeezy: Well, how does that affect the endorsement, though? Because we know that we've seen Trump before, where the endorsement comes sooner than later, some of them come later than sooner.

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Manny: Well, and he got… he got it off Gates. I, you know, I think this was part of the trade-off, like, of him leaving Doge, hey, I'm gonna endorse you to go run in this state. So, that's why he ran it, and not to… not to downplay, Casey Poosh.

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Manny: But his… his tagline is that he's a YouTuber, so there's not… there's not a whole lot coming with that from a political basis that you also have to build. Yeah. So I think that… that's gonna be interesting. Chuck, to your point, I agree with everything you said about Dr. Amy.

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Manny: But I feel like…

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Manny: If it takes off with the hantavirus, if that happens, God forbid that it does, because we're dealing with a whole lot right now.

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Chairman of Chaos: I didn't say take off, just a few more.

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Manny: I… but I don't know what's going to happen. I think the COVID…

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Manny: Raw facts of the situation, Democrats have not won Ohio in 20 years. The governorship in Ohio in 20 years.

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Manny: So, this is probably their best shot since Ted Strickland.

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Manny: was running, but the whole COVID thing.

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Manny: I don't know, and this is just me not being really deep into Ohio politics, is how the response to COVID was viewed by the people.

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Jeezy: Yeah.

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Manny: If it was viewed very positively.

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Manny: then I think that's going to help, being that steady hand.

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Chairman of Chaos: And I say it from a fear standpoint.

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Jeezy: Yeah, yeah.

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Chairman of Chaos: And again, it's… a lot of it is going to be based off of positioning, and how you position this.

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Chairman of Chaos: Because you can… you can play on the fears of someone without trying to be a fearmonger.

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Manny: Fairmonger. Yeah.

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Chairman of Chaos: I think that's good.

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Manny: gonna be the X factor here is, if it happens, how seriously do we as an American public take it?

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Manny: Like, do we say, oh, they said all this with COVID, and everyone's like, I'm going on about my life, whatever, I'm gonna ignore this.

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Chairman of Chaos: Well, here's the fact that…

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Manny: say, prepping getting 87 cases of toilet paper shipped to my house from Amazon.

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Chairman of Chaos: Well, here's some of the factors. Some of the people who… early people who caught it have died already.

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Jeezy: They, they, they…

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Manny: I mean, 40% mortality rate for hantavirus versus, was it, 1% for COVID? Yeah, it was, or under 1% for COVID? Yeah. Vastly different.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yeah.

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Jeezy: Hey, when you…

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Chairman of Chaos: And for me, looking at it, you have these… you have Spain. Spain was like, y'all not docking here.

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Chairman of Chaos: Right. No.

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Chairman of Chaos: Not even… and I think I read a report that they're already… they are starting to set up, like, isolation pods and stuff to try to get those people off and to quarantine them, but they're taking it.

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Chairman of Chaos: Very serious in the contact tracing that they've been doing for those who had already gotten off and gone home.

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Chairman of Chaos: is at a high level. Unfortunately, here in the U.S. at the CDC,

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Chairman of Chaos: Not so much at a high level.

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Manny: If only we hadn't gutted an entire agency via Doge, that Vivek was… so that's the other thing that could come back.

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Jeezy: That's another thing that she.

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Chairman of Chaos: Bear myself.

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Manny: Yeah, yeah.

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Chairman of Chaos: That's what I'm saying, depending on how you position it.

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Jeezy: Yeah.

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Manny: This man spent less time in, in Doge than what's-His-Face in Harry Potter.

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Jeezy: Bruh.

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Manny: Malfoy.

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Jeezy: Oh, boy.

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Manny: Yeah, he spent less time in Doge than Malfoy in the entire Harry Potter series.

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Manny: They are absolutely going to tie him to that.

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Chairman of Chaos: Oh, you… He ain't…

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Jeezy: I think to Chuck's point, you know, it made me think, you know, if there's a crisis that arises, you know, we call for a doctor, we didn't ask for a billionaire.

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Chairman of Chaos: Boy, that's a tagline right there.

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Manny: Look at you, Bill.

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Chairman of Chaos: That's a good vacation.

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Manny: gates.

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Jeezy: Hold on.

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Jeezy: But that's

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Jeezy: is, which even more ties to, you know, what Doge did, to Manny's point. And even if you take out of, you know, the micro, the macro of it.

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Jeezy: The micro is, do you really want somebody?

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Jeezy: Who thought that those decisions served the people well, governing

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Jeezy: state? I mean, what if we don't have a crisis? That's fine, but if we do, are we really

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Jeezy: Looking at this person to govern us through it, when you have me, Who has gotten us through…

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Chairman of Chaos: I got a line that can be used for advertisement, and if any of our listeners hear this line…

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Jeezy: Man, yeah, y'all called.

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Chairman of Chaos: in Ohio, let us know. Call us, DM us, whatever.

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Chairman of Chaos: How can you trust him with Ohio, and Trump didn't trust him with Doge?

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Chairman of Chaos: Boy.

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Chairman of Chaos: Somebody better hit us up, I'm just saying.

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Manny: Here's the… here's another question.

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Jeezy: Trump didn't trust him, Elon didn't trust him.

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Chairman of Chaos: Where, you know, puppet, hand up the butt.

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Jeezy: That's the only way… that's the only way to control the… never mind.

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Manny: So… Here's the other question, absent of… let's strip some of the… a good portion of the politics away.

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Manny: Is Ohio ready to elect somebody who's only 40 years old to be the governor?

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Jeezy: No.

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Jeezy: I don't think so.

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Manny: We'll find out.

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Chairman of Chaos: We will.

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Manny: I mean, Arkansas elected Sarah Huckabee Sanders, so it's not impossible, but it is a decision that the public has.

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Chairman of Chaos: The literacy rate in Ohio is higher than Arkansas.

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Jeezy: Yes.

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Manny: I mean…

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Jeezy: Bliss.

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Jeezy: She actually held a job.

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Jeezy: For the duration of a tenure?

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Jeezy: Yeah. The vague hazard.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yeah.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yes, this is not, biopharmaceutical…

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Jeezy: Yeah.

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Manny: Yep.

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Chairman of Chaos: No.

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Jeezy: Good luck with it.

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Manny: Zaya?

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Manny: Yep.

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Jeezy: But I think that, what we'll do in the good,

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Jeezy: Song of the Cha-cha slide will, slide to the left.

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Jeezy: It'd go to Indiana.

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Jeezy: The other has some very interesting things going on, this past.

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Chairman of Chaos: Hold on, Jeezy, we gotta… we gotta let that one…

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Manny: That was good.

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Chairman of Chaos: Give you your credit for that one, that was real good. That was really good. Hey, for those who are geographically challenged, look at your map. That's all I would say.

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Manny: The whole double entendre… Thank you, thank you, bro.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yes!

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Manny: Fantastic, man.

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Jeezy: Hey, brother.

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Jeezy: Hey, I'm just a man trying to develop under the microscope, brother, that's all.

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Jeezy: Indiana had some very interesting things that took place, over this past week, and I think that we can classify it as Trump's, redistricting revenge tour, so…

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Jeezy: Indiana was less about statewide marquee races and more about Republican infighting. So, the big story in Indiana is that Trump-backed challengers defeated several Republican state senators who had opposed Trump's push for mid-decade redistricting.

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Jeezy: It is reported that 5 of the 7 Trump-endorsed challengers won. One incumbent happened to survive, and one race is still, I believe, at this point, a little too close.

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Manny: Still being counted.

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Jeezy: Yeah, too close to call, so…

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Jeezy: There were normally low-profile state center races, but…

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Jeezy: They became nationalized because of the whole redistricting thing. So, Trump wanted Indiana Republicans to redraw the congressional maps to give the GOP a better shot at, wiping out or weakening the Democratic-hell seat. Some Republican states, state senators refused to do so. So, of course, in Trump fashion.

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Jeezy: Trump and his allies came back in the primary, and basically, from the results we see thus far, they punished them.

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Jeezy: So the Trump-backed challengers who won included, District 1, District 11, District 19, District, District 21, and District 41, and then again, we still have one that, survived, which was, Greg Good.

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Jeezy: Who was the anti-redistricting incumbent who survived his primary. But when you look at this.

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Jeezy: Is this smart politics by Trump? And I'm gonna ask this to Manning, starting out. Is this smart politics by Trump? Enforcing discipline, before the midterms, or is this a danger, is this dangerous for the GOP? Because it turns every disagreement that you have with Trump into, basically, a loyalty test.

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Manny: It depends. It depends in… I say it depends on the scope of your vision.

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Manny: If you look at it from a minor standpoint, just looking forward towards the 2026 election, this is absolutely a loyalty test.

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Manny: But if you look at this in the standpoint of 2028, and the newest Supreme Court ruling, and the likelihood that a bunch of states are going to redraw their lines, and a state where you would be in line to pick up states.

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Manny: These sitting officials have said, no, we're not doing this, we have rules.

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Manny: It's… It's a preemptive move to try to make sure you're in position for the 2028 election.

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Manny: And…

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Manny: First off, we said it in this one, and I'll say it again, there was entirely too much money spent on these races, in primaries.

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Chairman of Chaos: Prime, money, money.

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Manny: The fact between 12 to 13 million dollars was spent across these 7 races.

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Manny: that I believe my math is right. It is a 4000X.

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Manny: Percentage increase from the previous cycle.

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Jeezy: Nice, bro.

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Manny: And this is all for a job.

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Manny: Indiana State Senate salary.

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Manny: Make $30,000 a year.

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Jeezy: But the price of power?

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Manny: Br… I guess the price right now is somewhere between $12 and $13 million.

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Manny: So, absolutely, I… but I think this is clearing the way. I think Trump is seeing this as a opportunity to get some bodies in here that he will have control of, especially when we're talking about that redistricting fight, and I think that's what's going to now make this ruling by the Supreme Court

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Manny: Has unlocked… is going to unlock so much money at every single house, state, Senate race.

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Manny: Is going to get crazy, especially in every state where there's an opportunity to pick up seats.

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Manny: And there's going to be some tough decisions that are going to happen in impacts in Democrat and Republican leadership about how much we dedicate to races.

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Manny: To… to keep it… to keep for the federal play.

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Manny: You know, how many of these races that are going to be close are people going to continue to raise money for to just hand it downstream?

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Manny: For these other races.

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Manny: So, yes, very much punishment, but I believe it was punishment with them looking forward into what they have to do in the Senate and House sessions in 2027? Yes, 26 now? 27, yep.

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Jeezy: Yeah.

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Chairman of Chaos: But you know, for me, Manny, excuse me, Ajeezy, to this question, although… Oh…

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Chairman of Chaos: It could be, you know, backlash from Trump.

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Chairman of Chaos: And not following his orders.

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Chairman of Chaos: I wonder how,

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Chairman of Chaos: how it would stand up in Indiana Supreme Court if they were to redistrict, because the Indiana Constitution

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Chairman of Chaos: states that redistricting must be done after the federal census, so essentially every 10 years. So, although we're not talking about it on the pod, this episode

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Chairman of Chaos: that's kind of the ground that the Virginia, situation got overturned on.

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Manny: Yeah.

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Chairman of Chaos: saying that this is what the Constitution states, and that y'all did not follow the letter of the law of the Constitution when you brought this referendum to the people, and not allotting a certain amount of time frame. So…

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Chairman of Chaos: To me, those who gave pushback

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Chairman of Chaos: I can't speak to them, because I don't know them as individuals. It could be from a moral standpoint, but it also could be from the standpoint of, we have this established already in our Constitution when we redistrict.

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Chairman of Chaos: I understand what you want, but…

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Chairman of Chaos: you know, some people do stand to, adhere to the letter of the law that they… they swore to take a dose against.

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Manny: Well, even… even beyond that,

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Manny: And it was Travis Holdman, who was in that Senate District 19. He's quoted as saying, I did what my constituents asked me to do, and it cost me money.

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Chairman of Chaos: Praise that man. Praise that man.

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Jeezy: Yep.

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Chairman of Chaos: But you're finished.

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Jeezy: Which is not what you're.

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Chairman of Chaos: Okay, hold on.

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Manny: He, he…

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Chairman of Chaos: Raising them too fast.

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Manny: He finished the quote, he said, but that's okay. Welcome to DC politics in Indiana, because…

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Jeezy: Oh, yeah.

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Manny: That means that's what's coming.

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Jeezy: Yup.

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Chairman of Chaos: Praise that man.

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Jeezy: Very harsh on that, bro.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, it's.

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Manny: you the praise, but…

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Manny: And then, so you have that piece. The constituents, the people did not want this done because, again…

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Manny: Ohio is… I'm sorry, India… Indiana's more to the right than Ohio.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yeah.

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Manny: Not geographically, but, you know.

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Jeezy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sir, good point, good point.

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Chairman of Chaos: But…

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Manny: This is not what the… and again, easy to win a primary. Hard to win in general.

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Jeezy: Yep.

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Manny: So, if your people are saying, we don't want this done, and that's going to be your tentpole about why you're running.

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Chairman of Chaos: Woo! They go… the backlash.

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Manny: Dangerous game to play.

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Chairman of Chaos: Backlash. Yes, sir.

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Jeezy: Well, I think that when you… Look at this question.

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Jeezy: it's not about just who won those primaries. The question is what lesson other lawmakers Take from them.

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Jeezy: If you're a Republican state senator in another state.

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Jeezy: And Trump asked you to redraw the maps. Are you going to say no after watching what happened?

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Jeezy: to Indiana, and I think when you think about that, that's a chilling effect, because whether you agree with Trump or not, the power move

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Jeezy: And I think that probably Trump

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Jeezy: Felt good about this, because, you know, we…

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Chairman of Chaos: Oh, yeah.

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Jeezy: Most of the time, we've talked about, it seemed like that Trump car was starting to get a little weak, minus, you know, maybe Texas and Florida with an asterisk, but seeing what happened in Indiana, you gotta… he obviously, you know.

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Jeezy: took a little more oxygen in on his chest. So, you know, when you look at this power move, do you think that Indiana… the Indiana results make other Republican lawmakers more likely to go along?

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Manny: The week?

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Jeezy: Mid-decade?

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Chairman of Chaos: I was about to say…

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Jeezy: Or…

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Jeezy: Even if they personally, you know, even if they personally, to the point that you wrote about the senator, even if personally you think it's a bad idea, seeing what happened in Indiana, you saying, let me, let me, let me just go ahead and fall in… fall in line.

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Chairman of Chaos: the…

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Manny: The week one?

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Chairman of Chaos: Indeed.

570
00:45:25.640 --> 00:45:32.939
Chairman of Chaos: Manny said the weak ones, that was a nice way to say it. Those individuals with no testicular fortitude about themselves.

571
00:45:32.940 --> 00:45:34.880
Jeezy: Okay, mankind.

572
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:40.739
Chairman of Chaos: It's been… it's been… If you follow…

573
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:55.200
Chairman of Chaos: this level of politics, and you look at it, I have often been astonished at the amount of manhood that a lot of these guys lack. I know we've done it here before.

574
00:45:55.420 --> 00:46:10.450
Chairman of Chaos: there's no way you're gonna talk to me the way Trump has talked to some of these guys. There's no way you're gonna handle me the way he's handled some of these guys. There's no way you're gonna disrespect my family the way he's disrespected some of these individuals, and

575
00:46:10.670 --> 00:46:14.029
Chairman of Chaos: You continue to… sing his praises?

576
00:46:14.030 --> 00:46:15.390
Manny: Bend the knee.

577
00:46:15.580 --> 00:46:23.770
Chairman of Chaos: Being the… Been something else, too, but this is a family show, so we won't go there. But it…

578
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:43.000
Chairman of Chaos: It's utterly, utterly baffling, because, I just, I can't… I hate I didn't, remember his name, but there was a Black, guy who was a Black MAGA supporter, and he was running, and Trump backed the opponent.

579
00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:47.999
Chairman of Chaos: God, what was this guy's name? He's Republican, and he…

580
00:46:48.190 --> 00:46:51.680
Chairman of Chaos: And he was like, you know what? We're supposed to push forward.

581
00:46:51.790 --> 00:46:54.399
Chairman of Chaos: I forget right off the top of my head, bro.

582
00:46:54.400 --> 00:47:01.400
Manny: Because I want to say… I was going to say John Jones, and that is completely not the right person, because I'm thinking in Michigan…

583
00:47:02.080 --> 00:47:05.430
Chairman of Chaos: I think it was Michigan. I think it was…

584
00:47:05.820 --> 00:47:14.400
Chairman of Chaos: If I'm not mistaken. But anyway, to not belabor the point, He's castrated so many men.

585
00:47:14.950 --> 00:47:18.629
Chairman of Chaos: In these political spaces, to where…

586
00:47:18.760 --> 00:47:23.549
Chairman of Chaos: they're eunuchs, and it… it's… it's dumbfounding for me.

587
00:47:24.420 --> 00:47:26.080
Chairman of Chaos: Yes. Be a man.

588
00:47:27.040 --> 00:47:28.269
Chairman of Chaos: Be a man.

589
00:47:28.740 --> 00:47:29.600
Chairman of Chaos: You muted, brother.

590
00:47:29.600 --> 00:47:33.800
Jeezy: I don't know if y'all saw this clip, and I hate that I don't have it ready.

591
00:47:33.990 --> 00:47:39.400
Jeezy: But I seen a video where there was, these Trump supporters singing

592
00:47:39.570 --> 00:47:41.940
Jeezy: a song that they had made for Donald Trump.

593
00:47:42.140 --> 00:47:44.210
Jeezy: And when I tell you, and it made me think of what you.

594
00:47:44.210 --> 00:47:46.620
Manny: John James. There we go.

595
00:47:46.620 --> 00:47:47.460
Chairman of Chaos: That's him.

596
00:47:47.460 --> 00:47:52.520
Jeezy: It was the most castrating display of Trumpism.

597
00:47:52.810 --> 00:47:59.340
Jeezy: I ever seen in my life, but they were singing, Donald Trump, you are my daddy. I want to be an.

598
00:47:59.340 --> 00:47:59.719
Chairman of Chaos: Come on.

599
00:47:59.720 --> 00:48:00.700
Jeezy: See, we… bruh.

600
00:48:01.530 --> 00:48:02.200
Chairman of Chaos: Come on.

601
00:48:02.200 --> 00:48:06.899
Jeezy: Yo, at some… at some point… It has some decency.

602
00:48:07.030 --> 00:48:07.510
Manny: Bruh.

603
00:48:08.160 --> 00:48:09.899
Jeezy: Wipe… wipe your mouth!

604
00:48:10.750 --> 00:48:12.600
Manny: Please. Please.

605
00:48:13.550 --> 00:48:17.030
Jeezy: But I think that when you look at, Indiana.

606
00:48:17.780 --> 00:48:19.110
Jeezy: in Ohio.

607
00:48:19.910 --> 00:48:25.410
Jeezy: The story from Ohio and Indiana is this. Ohio gave us a battlefield.

608
00:48:25.990 --> 00:48:29.730
Jeezy: But I think when you look at Indiana, it gave us a warning.

609
00:48:29.970 --> 00:48:44.260
Jeezy: that Ohio says that, you know, the 2026 midterms are going to be expensive, it's gonna be nationalized and brutally competitive, but Indiana says that the… that inside of the Republican Party loyalty to Trump.

610
00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:46.699
Jeezy: It's still not optional.

611
00:48:47.030 --> 00:48:58.319
Jeezy: In this case, especially when control of Congress is on the line. And if you're a politician watching these results, I gotta think, the message is pretty clear.

612
00:48:58.610 --> 00:49:13.569
Jeezy: The primary voter is not just picking candidates anymore. They are enforcing the direction of the party, and I think that is a dangerous spot to be in, and those other Republicans in other states, you gotta ask yourself, when Donnie T come knocking on your door.

613
00:49:14.560 --> 00:49:15.649
Jeezy: What are you gonna do?

614
00:49:16.540 --> 00:49:20.250
Jeezy: What, what, what did, well, never mind, I ain't… we ain't gonna talk about Hulk Hogan.

615
00:49:20.950 --> 00:49:23.179
Chairman of Chaos: But what you gonna, what you're gonna do…

616
00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:26.510
Jeezy: When Donnie T… Come knocking for you.

617
00:49:28.310 --> 00:49:29.419
Jeezy: Gotta ask yourself.

618
00:49:29.420 --> 00:49:34.850
Manny: What was the quote? If you want to see the content of a man's character, give him power?

619
00:49:34.850 --> 00:49:35.830
Jeezy: Mmm.

620
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Chairman of Chaos: Reach.

621
00:49:36.940 --> 00:49:37.870
Audio shared by Jeezy: Message!

622
00:49:38.510 --> 00:49:39.709
Jeezy: Boy, y'all boy preachin' today.

623
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:44.700
Manny: So, we gon' see.

624
00:49:44.700 --> 00:49:46.249
Jeezy: Not be the last time.

625
00:49:46.610 --> 00:49:47.670
Jeezy: For sure.

626
00:49:47.810 --> 00:49:51.070
Jeezy: That we will talk about these two states.

627
00:49:51.260 --> 00:50:01.220
Jeezy: in the U.S. So, we will keep our eye on them, and we will most certainly, bring you the details between, what happens in, Vivek.

628
00:50:02.020 --> 00:50:03.369
Jeezy: Just gonna let you know, bruh.

629
00:50:03.520 --> 00:50:05.310
Jeezy: If you want a chance.

630
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:08.980
Jeezy: I think the only change you got, you might have to call the boys at the pod, bruh.

631
00:50:09.890 --> 00:50:11.879
Jeezy: And the check, and the check gotta be heavy.

632
00:50:12.250 --> 00:50:16.200
Chairman of Chaos: For the right price, we can make Yosh tighter.

633
00:50:17.090 --> 00:50:18.319
Chairman of Chaos: Jay-Z laugh at everything.

634
00:50:18.560 --> 00:50:20.629
Jeezy: Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

635
00:50:20.930 --> 00:50:23.960
Jeezy: Alright, so, to our next segment,

636
00:50:24.150 --> 00:50:26.740
Jeezy: I want to go to something that I believe everybody feels.

637
00:50:26.970 --> 00:50:30.640
Jeezy: And that is… The economy.

638
00:50:31.080 --> 00:50:31.710
Manny: Hmm.

639
00:50:32.050 --> 00:50:33.640
Jeezy: So, let's talk about it. We can catch up.

640
00:50:33.640 --> 00:50:38.819
Chairman of Chaos: Pico! Oh, sorry, I'm sorry, sorry.

641
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:40.720
Jeezy: So let's talk about the economy.

642
00:50:41.070 --> 00:50:51.150
Jeezy: Because that, this is one of those moments where, headline numbers and people's real lives are telling two completely different stories. So on paper.

643
00:50:51.610 --> 00:50:53.189
Jeezy: But we see one thing.

644
00:50:53.990 --> 00:51:08.730
Jeezy: But when we look at the average day-to-day life of Americans, there's something totally different. And I believe that you have a lot of Americans saying, hey, look, something here isn't right. So, before we even dive into this, I want to ask you, and I'll start with you, Mandy.

645
00:51:09.530 --> 00:51:11.820
Jeezy: Is the economy getting better?

646
00:51:12.140 --> 00:51:18.139
Jeezy: Or, are we just getting better at surviving a bad economy?

647
00:51:19.030 --> 00:51:24.350
Manny: That's a great question. I'm gonna… I'm gonna answer both of them. It depends who.

648
00:51:24.350 --> 00:51:28.219
Jeezy: Bro, hold on, first of all, you answered that like we was on the debate stage, like, I was…

649
00:51:28.220 --> 00:51:28.990
Manny: I'm lying.

650
00:51:28.990 --> 00:51:31.610
Chairman of Chaos: That's a great question.

651
00:51:31.610 --> 00:51:37.690
Jeezy: I'm gonna answer both of them, but that was… that was a debate… debate stage response. But go ahead, brother.

652
00:51:37.690 --> 00:51:49.800
Manny: It… it depends. It depends, for that first part. It depends on who you are. I think economists and people have been saying for years that we are… we are stepping towards a K-shaped economy.

653
00:51:49.800 --> 00:52:01.620
Manny: Where if you're doing… if you're already doing well, if you own stock, if you have disposable income, like, things are looking up for you. It is… it is…

654
00:52:01.750 --> 00:52:07.110
Manny: You're… you're probably not as free-flowing as you want to be, but, like, you comfortable.

655
00:52:07.860 --> 00:52:14.010
Manny: Where on the other side, if you're not in that situation, it's a far different economy for you.

656
00:52:14.590 --> 00:52:23.289
Manny: And I think, ultimately, for those people who are on the other side of the economy, the ones who don't have million dollars of stock.

657
00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:26.490
Manny: Which is none of us on this call, so…

658
00:52:27.150 --> 00:52:30.790
Manny: But, you know, if you're not on that side, I think…

659
00:52:31.180 --> 00:52:34.109
Manny: The American people are a resilient people.

660
00:52:35.050 --> 00:52:42.890
Manny: So I… so I do think we've gotten better, and people get better at surviving, you know? Nothing…

661
00:52:43.550 --> 00:52:45.470
Manny: Nothing about…

662
00:52:46.850 --> 00:52:59.830
Manny: poverty, nothing about bad economic times, nothing about not being able to pay bills, nothing about trying to make the decision between medication and food. None of those are easy decisions.

663
00:52:59.850 --> 00:53:08.439
Manny: But what we've seen historically from the American people, we tend to be kind of resilient. So I think we get better, we get more innovative.

664
00:53:10.720 --> 00:53:20.399
Manny: And so, yeah, I do think we've just gotten better. We end up figuring out how to compensate. Now, are we better because of it, or were we worse off in the long term? I mean, probably.

665
00:53:21.270 --> 00:53:25.839
Manny: I survived a car crash, but that doesn't necessarily mean, you know.

666
00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:27.400
Jeezy: I'm the physical.

667
00:53:27.400 --> 00:53:37.769
Manny: Right. The physical is healing. That doesn't mean I'm mentally okay from all of this. Yeah, yeah. You know, you think about… you think about someone who's been laid off.

668
00:53:38.260 --> 00:53:50.490
Manny: And the mental part of being laid off, of having to go through all that, it's a rough spot to be in. I've been in that spot. It's rough to deal with. Are you…

669
00:53:50.790 --> 00:54:01.670
Manny: dealing with the pain and the ramifications of that, does that just end after you get a new job? No, it doesn't. So, you still have to process through it, so…

670
00:54:02.210 --> 00:54:16.369
Manny: I think when you think about the economy, and you think about the impacts of the economy, and how people are navigating through that, yeah, one thing, it's the jobs, but B, the other side of it is the mental rebound from all of this.

671
00:54:17.770 --> 00:54:19.370
Jeezy: Yeah, good point, Chuck.

672
00:54:20.260 --> 00:54:21.500
Chairman of Chaos: Listen.

673
00:54:22.410 --> 00:54:24.870
Chairman of Chaos: I… I… no.

674
00:54:25.560 --> 00:54:35.849
Chairman of Chaos: That's not a no to… that's not a no to Manny. That's a no to… this economy is trash. This economy sucks. Where we are sucks, regardless of what they… they…

675
00:54:37.030 --> 00:54:45.600
Chairman of Chaos: It's their job to make it sound good. They will lie to you to make it sound fly to you, as my good boy C. said.

676
00:54:45.600 --> 00:54:46.250
Manny: Wait, not…

677
00:54:46.250 --> 00:54:49.020
Jeezy: Not the government easy. Not the government.

678
00:54:49.020 --> 00:54:52.830
Manny: of this United States lying to its people. Chuck, that doesn't sound…

679
00:54:52.830 --> 00:54:54.479
Chairman of Chaos: Anybody states. I don't…

680
00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:57.510
Jeezy: I don't know if y'all saw the clip, and Chuck, I'll let you finish, but…

681
00:54:57.750 --> 00:54:59.889
Jeezy: What was his name? Byron Daniels?

682
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:01.610
Jeezy: Is that the guy from Florida?

683
00:55:01.610 --> 00:55:03.469
Manny: Oh, Florida… Trump's other lackey?

684
00:55:03.470 --> 00:55:05.730
Jeezy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, his other boy.

685
00:55:06.870 --> 00:55:07.410
Chairman of Chaos: You, boy.

686
00:55:07.410 --> 00:55:13.599
Jeezy: They asked him going out of, leaving out of Congress on Friday, and they asked him to grade the economy.

687
00:55:14.100 --> 00:55:21.790
Jeezy: That Donald Trump has presented to the American people. Of course, he threw Biden's name out there, which I still don't understand why people are doing that, but…

688
00:55:21.790 --> 00:55:24.670
Manny: It's been a year plus, man. The man is gone.

689
00:55:24.670 --> 00:55:25.780
Jeezy: He gave Trump an A.

690
00:55:26.370 --> 00:55:34.530
Jeezy: He gave Trump an A of where the economy, for how long he handled the economy and where the economy… he was like, oh, it's a no-brainer. It's an A, and I'm like…

691
00:55:34.530 --> 00:55:37.020
Chairman of Chaos: The A for absent.

692
00:55:38.210 --> 00:55:41.209
Chairman of Chaos: Because there's no growth. I was about to say, the paper? For street…

693
00:55:41.210 --> 00:55:43.849
Jeezy: Straight ASS.

694
00:55:47.620 --> 00:55:50.370
Jeezy: economy is trash, to Chuck's point. It's been bad!

695
00:55:51.070 --> 00:55:52.980
Manny: It's bad. It's bad.

696
00:55:52.980 --> 00:55:57.289
Chairman of Chaos: So, I'm gonna throw a couple numbers around for you all.

697
00:55:57.290 --> 00:55:58.050
Jeezy: Go ahead, brother.

698
00:55:58.050 --> 00:56:03.860
Chairman of Chaos: First and foremost, Our unemployment rate has remained about 4.3%.

699
00:56:03.860 --> 00:56:04.610
Jeezy: Yes, sir?

700
00:56:05.230 --> 00:56:05.850
Manny: Hmm.

701
00:56:05.850 --> 00:56:08.839
Chairman of Chaos: Not going up, but not going down.

702
00:56:09.040 --> 00:56:16.919
Jeezy: And people need to understand that number, because I think… I feel like most of the average Americans don't understand that number, but that's another topic for another day.

703
00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:28.010
Manny: Look, and I think this is just a key point on that, because I can't let it slide without this factor, because I didn't know it until several years ago when I was digging into it. Unemployment.

704
00:56:28.010 --> 00:56:28.400
Jeezy: Oh.

705
00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:39.749
Manny: They stopped counting… yeah, that was bad. That was strike two. The unemployment numbers stopped counting you after two years.

706
00:56:39.750 --> 00:56:42.919
Jeezy: Bruh. Yes. That's why I said I don't think a lot of people understand that name.

707
00:56:42.920 --> 00:56:48.629
Chairman of Chaos: But also, it only factors in unemployment claims.

708
00:56:48.630 --> 00:56:51.240
Jeezy: Yep. If you ain't trying to find a job, it ain't counting you.

709
00:56:51.240 --> 00:56:51.979
Manny: I ain't counting you.

710
00:56:51.980 --> 00:56:58.440
Chairman of Chaos: If you're not… if you're not trying to find a job, nor are you able to get unemployment benefits…

711
00:56:58.680 --> 00:56:59.170
Manny: died.

712
00:56:59.170 --> 00:56:59.979
Chairman of Chaos: It does not count.

713
00:57:00.330 --> 00:57:04.639
Jeezy: I was in the… I forgot what class I was in a couple of years ago, and I saw that, I was like…

714
00:57:04.790 --> 00:57:09.210
Jeezy: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yes, yes.

715
00:57:09.210 --> 00:57:18.060
Chairman of Chaos: So, to that point, When you hear that the numbers have gone down, you have to ask.

716
00:57:18.600 --> 00:57:21.580
Chairman of Chaos: How many people were purged out of the… out of that equation?

717
00:57:21.580 --> 00:57:23.519
Jeezy: Who's exited out of the field?

718
00:57:23.520 --> 00:57:30.329
Chairman of Chaos: who's exited out, how many more are coming in, so if it's sustaining, guess what? There's an equal amount

719
00:57:30.660 --> 00:57:34.210
Chairman of Chaos: Of those entering in, as those are purging out.

720
00:57:34.230 --> 00:57:36.499
Manny: And Chuck, on top of that…

721
00:57:36.500 --> 00:57:37.530
Jeezy: stale.

722
00:57:37.560 --> 00:57:38.980
Manny: Well, on top of that…

723
00:57:38.980 --> 00:57:40.020
Jeezy: moving.

724
00:57:40.140 --> 00:57:46.570
Manny: this is May. This is Mother's Day weekend, one of the highest… I think most school… most colleges have their.

725
00:57:46.570 --> 00:57:48.410
Chairman of Chaos: Graduation. Graduation around us.

726
00:57:48.410 --> 00:57:51.419
Manny: Over the… over the past 3 weeks.

727
00:57:51.420 --> 00:57:52.170
Chairman of Chaos: Yes.

728
00:57:52.170 --> 00:57:53.990
Manny: We got all these new people getting ready.

729
00:57:53.990 --> 00:57:58.299
Chairman of Chaos: These new people into the workforce, yes. But to my point.

730
00:57:58.930 --> 00:58:11.919
Chairman of Chaos: So, job… the job numbers came out. Hey guys, we have some April job numbers for you. We had some higher than expected growth, in the job sector, which, reported.

731
00:58:12.150 --> 00:58:16.330
Chairman of Chaos: 1,000… 115,000 jobs added in April.

732
00:58:16.700 --> 00:58:22.000
Chairman of Chaos: Almost doubling the expert, expectation, or,

733
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:22.460
Jeezy: Yep.

734
00:58:22.460 --> 00:58:23.840
Chairman of Chaos: Of 65,000.

735
00:58:24.010 --> 00:58:26.410
Jeezy: Stronger than it expected.

736
00:58:26.590 --> 00:58:30.080
Chairman of Chaos: Wonderful. Wonderful. Fantastic.

737
00:58:30.260 --> 00:58:34.199
Chairman of Chaos: They even revised the March numbers and bumped it up.

738
00:58:34.820 --> 00:58:38.649
Chairman of Chaos: another, 7,000. 7K, yeah, we'll give.

739
00:58:38.950 --> 00:58:45.020
Chairman of Chaos: It came in at $178,000. Oh, we're gonna bump this up to $185.

740
00:58:45.600 --> 00:58:47.320
Chairman of Chaos: No February numbers, though.

741
00:58:47.390 --> 00:58:49.800
Manny: Fiscal winter!

742
00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:55.499
Chairman of Chaos: Do you remember when we said we lost 133,000 jobs in February?

743
00:58:55.500 --> 00:58:55.980
Manny: No.

744
00:58:55.980 --> 00:59:00.200
Chairman of Chaos: That was wrong. We lost about 156,000 jobs.

745
00:59:00.790 --> 00:59:04.160
Chairman of Chaos: So, I say all that to say…

746
00:59:04.470 --> 00:59:08.030
Chairman of Chaos: We're operating in the deficit, number one.

747
00:59:08.030 --> 00:59:09.200
Jeezy: Thank you.

748
00:59:09.200 --> 00:59:10.910
Chairman of Chaos: Number two…

749
00:59:11.600 --> 00:59:19.560
Chairman of Chaos: The driving factor for our job growth is the healthcare sector, and I've talked about this before on the pod.

750
00:59:19.560 --> 00:59:20.160
Jeezy: Yep.

751
00:59:20.430 --> 00:59:23.170
Chairman of Chaos: And that's a false positive, because…

752
00:59:23.640 --> 00:59:27.749
Chairman of Chaos: Well, number one, it's not the high-paying healthcare jobs.

753
00:59:28.160 --> 00:59:29.700
Chairman of Chaos: that are… are… are…

754
00:59:29.990 --> 00:59:37.909
Chairman of Chaos: what's not doing the hiring? It's ambulatory services, it's home health aid, those are the major factors that are driving this portion of it.

755
00:59:38.120 --> 00:59:41.450
Chairman of Chaos: But also, there's this thing called the Big Beautiful Bill.

756
00:59:41.990 --> 00:59:45.640
Chairman of Chaos: That the effects of it has not fully…

757
00:59:46.080 --> 00:59:49.610
Manny: Brad, the Medicaid and all that kicked…

758
00:59:49.610 --> 00:59:56.690
Chairman of Chaos: Exactly. And who pays for most of these ambulatory and home health services for individuals?

759
00:59:57.100 --> 00:59:58.510
Chairman of Chaos: Medicaid, Medicare.

760
00:59:59.160 --> 01:00:02.900
Chairman of Chaos: So, once we start impacting that sector.

761
01:00:03.120 --> 01:00:14.580
Chairman of Chaos: And I know I've… it's been discussed here numerous times, what it's gonna do to the rural areas, these hospitals being shut down, these urgent care facilities.

762
01:00:15.240 --> 01:00:17.459
Chairman of Chaos: So many people are gonna be impacted.

763
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Jeezy: Yep.

764
01:00:18.430 --> 01:00:21.260
Chairman of Chaos: But also, I want y'all to realize something.

765
01:00:22.660 --> 01:00:24.739
Chairman of Chaos: They're talking about all this job growth.

766
01:00:26.100 --> 01:00:28.879
Chairman of Chaos: just… and I ran these numbers.

767
01:00:29.580 --> 01:00:34.169
Chairman of Chaos: just the fir- in April alone, the month of April.

768
01:00:34.460 --> 01:00:36.790
Chairman of Chaos: From April 1 to April 30th.

769
01:00:37.260 --> 01:00:40.759
Chairman of Chaos: Take a guess how many jobs were announced to be

770
01:00:41.060 --> 01:00:43.700
Chairman of Chaos: Coming to an end, just in the month of April.

771
01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:45.789
Chairman of Chaos: Brother Manny, give me a number.

772
01:00:46.180 --> 01:00:48.670
Manny: I'm gonna go with at least $18,000.

773
01:00:49.520 --> 01:00:51.230
Chairman of Chaos: Okay, Brother Jeezy?

774
01:00:51.860 --> 01:00:53.130
Jeezy: I'mma go to 19.5.

775
01:00:55.220 --> 01:01:06.239
Chairman of Chaos: Brothers, in the month of April alone, U.S. employers announced 83,387 job cuts, which is a 38% job.

776
01:01:06.330 --> 01:01:07.190
Audio shared by Jeezy: Or not.

777
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Manny: BAM!

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Chairman of Chaos: 83,000.

779
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Jeezy: Rome.

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Chairman of Chaos: So, if you… you've added 115,

781
01:01:19.460 --> 01:01:21.720
Chairman of Chaos: And you're already operating in the negative.

782
01:01:21.720 --> 01:01:22.320
Jeezy: Hold on a minute.

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01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:22.860
Manny: Hmm.

784
01:01:23.070 --> 01:01:23.740
Jeezy: Let me…

785
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Jeezy: I ain't been kicking out my fingers, my toes… Yeah, we… yeah, we… I think we had a loss, brother.

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Manny: Well, and also, if we… if we… to add on to that, looking at other places where there were growth in this report.

787
01:01:37.070 --> 01:01:47.209
Manny: Leisure and hospitality and construction. Yes. And guess what two places take a hit? If we go into some type of recessionary…

788
01:01:47.610 --> 01:01:53.860
Manny: kind of situation. Construction and the cost of fuel? You don't think that's gonna slow construction?

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Chairman of Chaos: Oh, I hadn't even gotten to that space yet, because I was gonna speak to the 17,000 people who just lost their job this past Saturday.

790
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Jeezy: Bruh.

791
01:02:04.670 --> 01:02:07.190
Chairman of Chaos: 17,000 people, your job.

792
01:02:08.060 --> 01:02:09.580
Chairman of Chaos: Pulled from under you.

793
01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:24.030
Chairman of Chaos: And, yes, there's several factors, and for those who don't know, I'm talking about Spirit Airlines. There's several factors that play a part into that, but one of the things that they said was one of the most recent impacts to them ceasing operations

794
01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:28.000
Chairman of Chaos: Is the rising of jet fuel costs has almost doubled.

795
01:02:28.070 --> 01:02:30.750
Jeezy: Man, that jet fuel… man, that price is crazy.

796
01:02:31.140 --> 01:02:32.120
Chairman of Chaos: Double.

797
01:02:32.120 --> 01:02:32.710
Jeezy: Easy.

798
01:02:33.410 --> 01:02:35.670
Chairman of Chaos: since the start of this Iran conflict.

799
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Chairman of Chaos: doubled We just got… We got our last… go ahead, brother.

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Manny: But Chuck, the S&P's at record highs.

801
01:02:46.790 --> 01:02:51.389
Chairman of Chaos: And so is the B and the S.

802
01:02:52.840 --> 01:02:53.440
Jeezy: Living.

803
01:02:55.610 --> 01:03:00.240
Chairman of Chaos: So is the B and the S. So, in this, it… do you…

804
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Chairman of Chaos: To the listeners, how do you feel? How does your personal economic space feel?

805
01:03:07.100 --> 01:03:10.210
Jeezy: Well, I think, Chuck, to that question.

806
01:03:11.220 --> 01:03:20.560
Jeezy: I want to bring up something that I think we are feeling, and this is connected to that question to our listeners, is inflation.

807
01:03:21.090 --> 01:03:24.850
Jeezy: Right? Inflation is still the biggest problem.

808
01:03:24.990 --> 01:03:39.439
Jeezy: You know, in the latest CPA report, you know, in March 2026, it showed a price where 3.3% over the past year. Energy was the real shocker with energy, prices had rose to 10.9% in March alone.

809
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Manny: Shocker, in terms of the number it grew, not shocked that it actually happened.

810
01:03:43.700 --> 01:03:44.920
Jeezy: Brooke.

811
01:03:46.850 --> 01:03:54.090
Jeezy: Oh, I wonder, we all feel gasoline, jumped, 21.2% in, one month.

812
01:03:54.230 --> 01:03:55.430
Jeezy: Thank you, Donald Trump.

813
01:03:55.850 --> 01:03:57.730
Jeezy: And gasoline, was up.

814
01:03:58.400 --> 01:04:16.009
Jeezy: 18.9% over the year, which I'm still getting pissed that I'm not seeing any more, I don't see no stickers on no gas pumps like I saw with Biden, but it's neither here nor there. I feel like if you're gonna criticize one, criticize the other, it's just fair. But, core inflation, which excludes food and energy.

815
01:04:16.090 --> 01:04:27.129
Jeezy: rose 2.6 over the year. So the important note is that the April CPA report is scheduled to come out, I believe, May 26th. So, I mean, excuse me, May 12th.

816
01:04:27.260 --> 01:04:32.069
Jeezy: Which will give us the freshest official inflation number

817
01:04:32.330 --> 01:04:37.559
Jeezy: That we can see right, right now, because right now we're still looking at March. So…

818
01:04:38.150 --> 01:04:43.550
Manny: But here's… but… First off, we already know that number's… that it's going up.

819
01:04:43.550 --> 01:04:43.900
Jeezy: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

820
01:04:43.900 --> 01:04:53.190
Manny: But I think the number that really matters here is… Is really consumer sentiment.

821
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Manny: Because the… so the University of Michigan tracks about how… how consumers are feeling.

822
01:05:01.910 --> 01:05:02.510
Jeezy: Billing, yeah.

823
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Manny: Like, so no matter what the numbers are, if you still feel like things aren't getting better, that's your reality. And for politicians, that's a reality you're stepping into the voting booth with.

824
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Manny: And… In 74 years, of University of Michigan tracking this.

825
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Manny: It is the lowest reading.

826
01:05:25.540 --> 01:05:33.239
Manny: That is… It's lower than 2008, the 2008 financial crisis.

827
01:05:33.240 --> 01:05:33.580
Jeezy: Wow.

828
01:05:33.580 --> 01:05:39.339
Manny: lower than COVID, that's lower when we had stagflation in 1980s.

829
01:05:41.480 --> 01:05:44.850
Manny: But we keep talking about Wall Street.

830
01:05:46.260 --> 01:05:57.060
Manny: And it's clear at this point that we're in a K economy, and the country is split, and we are literally being bifurcated based on your zip code and the assets you hold.

831
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Jeezy: facts. Big facts. You know, I think when you look at that number, man, and the point that you're making, I think this is why people are mad.

832
01:06:05.660 --> 01:06:10.309
Jeezy: You know, inflation may not, you know, be at pandemic highs anymore.

833
01:06:11.010 --> 01:06:12.769
Jeezy: But prices are not going.

834
01:06:12.770 --> 01:06:15.159
Chairman of Chaos: I'm about to say, but it's not…

835
01:06:15.160 --> 01:06:16.000
Jeezy: We are not back in.

836
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Chairman of Chaos: Pandemic low, either.

837
01:06:17.040 --> 01:06:35.899
Jeezy: We are, bruh, facts. We are not back to 2019. So, when gas spikes and everyone feels, you know, like it's getting dragged, you know, up with, you know, groceries, deliveries, travel, I mean, small bit… I mean, everything. You know, when politicians, and just like I pointed out with Brian,

838
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Jeezy: Byron Daniels saying earlier, when politicians say inflation is cooling, and do you think regular people hear that as relief, or do you think that, I would say it could be a form of gaslighting?

839
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Jeezy: Which one is it?

840
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Chairman of Chaos: So here's the thing, when they say it's cooling, again, to the B and the S,

841
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Chairman of Chaos: They'll say it's cooling, and it's dropped .02%.

842
01:07:00.250 --> 01:07:00.870
Jeezy: Yeah.

843
01:07:01.170 --> 01:07:02.090
Chairman of Chaos: They, they, they…

844
01:07:02.090 --> 01:07:03.440
Manny: Still mean to win up.

845
01:07:04.130 --> 01:07:12.430
Chairman of Chaos: They don't give specifics. No different than… think about this, and I looked at the numbers, Since 2020,

846
01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:18.289
Chairman of Chaos: The rate of pay, or wage growth, has been about 25%.

847
01:07:18.720 --> 01:07:20.799
Chairman of Chaos: 25, close to 26%.

848
01:07:22.020 --> 01:07:23.240
Chairman of Chaos: Inflation?

849
01:07:23.700 --> 01:07:26.040
Chairman of Chaos: Has grown about 21%.

850
01:07:26.750 --> 01:07:29.200
Chairman of Chaos: So, hey, we're making more money.

851
01:07:29.360 --> 01:07:29.970
Jeezy: Yeah.

852
01:07:30.140 --> 01:07:31.969
Chairman of Chaos: But it's costing us more to live.

853
01:07:32.480 --> 01:07:32.990
Manny: Yep.

854
01:07:33.360 --> 01:07:39.660
Chairman of Chaos: If I… if I go out and gas was $4.20, a gallon.

855
01:07:39.970 --> 01:07:42.419
Chairman of Chaos: And it went down to 405.

856
01:07:43.280 --> 01:07:46.159
Chairman of Chaos: I could sit here and tell, oh, gas has gone down.

857
01:07:46.760 --> 01:07:53.879
Chairman of Chaos: But it still costing me a hell of a lot to fill up our car. It went from $55 to $51.

858
01:07:54.450 --> 01:07:57.160
Chairman of Chaos: When before, I was paying $30.

859
01:07:57.160 --> 01:07:58.040
Jeezy: Punch in there.

860
01:07:58.620 --> 01:08:02.490
Chairman of Chaos: I'm punching something. I wanna punch somebody!

861
01:08:02.490 --> 01:08:03.440
Jeezy: Yes, sir.

862
01:08:03.440 --> 01:08:08.419
Chairman of Chaos: But it might be cheaper to go to jail than it is.

863
01:08:10.430 --> 01:08:12.050
Jeezy: Right. You know, we…

864
01:08:13.160 --> 01:08:13.739
Chairman of Chaos: Go ahead, brother.

865
01:08:13.740 --> 01:08:15.040
Jeezy: Wait, go ahead, yes sir.

866
01:08:15.040 --> 01:08:19.060
Chairman of Chaos: I was just saying, so with this, we look at…

867
01:08:19.930 --> 01:08:27.849
Chairman of Chaos: They… not traditionally, but they have said over the years, the best way to increase your pay is to change jobs.

868
01:08:28.779 --> 01:08:35.850
Chairman of Chaos: Right. You see that in the numbers. Generally, most people's, performance evaluation raises is about

869
01:08:36.160 --> 01:08:38.220
Chairman of Chaos: 3% on the high end.

870
01:08:38.229 --> 01:08:39.279
Manny: On a high end.

871
01:08:39.279 --> 01:08:44.579
Chairman of Chaos: On a good year. In a good year. But you can take… you can make a 7…

872
01:08:45.339 --> 01:08:48.339
Chairman of Chaos: To 8% jump by changing jobs.

873
01:08:48.559 --> 01:08:50.379
Chairman of Chaos: But the question is, who's hiring?

874
01:08:52.089 --> 01:08:53.689
Chairman of Chaos: Do we have a conversation.

875
01:08:53.689 --> 01:08:57.119
Manny: McDonald's, Amazon… Yeah, the economy.

876
01:08:57.120 --> 01:09:08.989
Chairman of Chaos: These low level, and that's not to be disrespectful, I say low level based off the… based off the required… requirements of the job.

877
01:09:08.990 --> 01:09:09.630
Jeezy: Yeah.

878
01:09:09.630 --> 01:09:16.940
Chairman of Chaos: Whereas, because of… This is… boy, we could go into diatribe about this. AI…

879
01:09:17.220 --> 01:09:17.830
Manny: Causing…

880
01:09:17.830 --> 01:09:21.720
Chairman of Chaos: People to lose their jobs, and cutting many jobs

881
01:09:22.790 --> 01:09:26.930
Chairman of Chaos: these high-paying jobs. These jobs that are…

882
01:09:27.069 --> 01:09:33.629
Chairman of Chaos: The ones that is pouring into the economy, to the ones… these jobs that are…

883
01:09:34.350 --> 01:09:43.640
Chairman of Chaos: the fuel to these small businesses that is the fuel to the U.S. economy. Big corporation is not the fuel to the economy.

884
01:09:44.720 --> 01:09:46.620
Manny: I don't know. Not at all. They're indicators.

885
01:09:47.350 --> 01:09:48.309
Manny: They're indicators.

886
01:09:48.310 --> 01:09:48.960
Jeezy: Definitely indicated.

887
01:09:49.859 --> 01:09:52.789
Chairman of Chaos: But it's not the fuel. And so, in that.

888
01:09:54.440 --> 01:09:59.150
Chairman of Chaos: There's no way you could feel confident weird…

889
01:10:00.100 --> 01:10:02.490
Chairman of Chaos: The buying power of my dollar

890
01:10:03.010 --> 01:10:12.460
Chairman of Chaos: does not get me nearly enough. I saw somebody post, a few years ago, I could get one bag of groceries for $100.

891
01:10:14.830 --> 01:10:16.289
Manny: Just the other week.

892
01:10:16.300 --> 01:10:19.220
Chairman of Chaos: I can get one bag of groceries for $150.

893
01:10:19.470 --> 01:10:20.410
Jeezy: Bro, let me tell you.

894
01:10:20.410 --> 01:10:22.579
Chairman of Chaos: That doesn't make… that doesn't make me feel any better.

895
01:10:24.420 --> 01:10:30.240
Jeezy: I heard a good old gospel song that used to say that times is hard, Your friends are few.

896
01:10:30.240 --> 01:10:31.599
Manny: And one thing about…

897
01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:33.030
Jeezy: Got it. Them bills?

898
01:10:33.430 --> 01:10:35.380
Jeezy: They're gonna always be Dude.

899
01:10:35.380 --> 01:10:36.510
Manny: We do.

900
01:10:38.850 --> 01:10:41.450
Jeezy: What… what all of this signals…

901
01:10:41.900 --> 01:10:47.330
Jeezy: for Americans, I think for everyday Americans, the economy signals four things.

902
01:10:47.910 --> 01:10:54.700
Jeezy: The first thing is that job security matters more than job opportunity. I think if you got a job right now, you might be okay.

903
01:10:54.930 --> 01:11:00.560
Jeezy: But there is not… you might not want to step outside on that porch.

904
01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:02.220
Chairman of Chaos: And, I think.

905
01:11:02.220 --> 01:11:17.580
Jeezy: Second, you know, inflation is still, you know, the main political problem. Even when inflation slows, the higher prices and the high price levels still remain, so people do not feel better just because prices are rising slower.

906
01:11:17.950 --> 01:11:36.710
Jeezy: The third thing is that, you know, big purchases are still on pause. When you think of homes, cars, major appliances, renovations, vacations, they are harder to justify when rates and prices remain elevated. I mean, to go on a flight, my lord, I mean, is insane.

907
01:11:36.830 --> 01:11:39.979
Chairman of Chaos: And that's why I lose a spirit hurts. It hurts.

908
01:11:39.980 --> 01:11:47.300
Jeezy: Peter's spirit, you know, and the loss that they took, because that wasn't an option. Option no longer there.

909
01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:54.999
Jeezy: And then fourth, the, you know, the 2026 political conversation will be, in my opinion, about…

910
01:11:56.030 --> 01:12:05.739
Jeezy: lived economics. Not just the charts, not just the stock market, not just the GDP. The question, I think, honestly, will be.

911
01:12:05.870 --> 01:12:08.510
Jeezy: Do people feel like their life

912
01:12:08.650 --> 01:12:19.049
Jeezy: is more affordable than it was last year. And when we already have seen a president already begin a rhetoric by starting with affordability being a hoax.

913
01:12:20.410 --> 01:12:21.369
Jeezy: I mean…

914
01:12:21.370 --> 01:12:22.230
Chairman of Chaos: Listen.

915
01:12:22.230 --> 01:12:32.429
Jeezy: You gotta, as an American, I don't care who you voted for, if I'm struggling to afford, and I can't afford something, and somebody tells me that this is a hoax.

916
01:12:32.620 --> 01:12:34.390
Chairman of Chaos: We're not talking about luxury!

917
01:12:34.390 --> 01:12:37.330
Jeezy: I'm not asking to live in the penthouse suite.

918
01:12:37.330 --> 01:12:37.940
Chairman of Chaos: I'm joking.

919
01:12:37.940 --> 01:12:46.749
Jeezy: I'm just asking that when I come home, I'm not trying to rub pennies together to provide for my family. Can I get something? Can I save something?

920
01:12:46.750 --> 01:12:53.919
Manny: There is more month at the end of the… at the… there is more month at the end of the month than there is check.

921
01:12:54.100 --> 01:12:55.260
Jeezy: Gee,

922
01:12:55.420 --> 01:12:56.420
Audio shared by Jeezy: Message!

923
01:12:56.760 --> 01:12:57.180
Jeezy: That's good.

924
01:12:57.180 --> 01:12:58.849
Chairman of Chaos: Yes, Lord. Yes, Lord.

925
01:12:58.850 --> 01:13:01.319
Jeezy: And that is the reality.

926
01:13:01.870 --> 01:13:12.740
Jeezy: of a lot of Americans. So when we ask whether the economy is getting better or worse, the answer, really, to Manny, Manny's already said it already, it depends on who you ask.

927
01:13:13.280 --> 01:13:17.600
Jeezy: If you ask Wall Street, They may say, hey, the economy's resilient.

928
01:13:18.320 --> 01:13:21.739
Jeezy: If you ask Washington, they may say that the economy is stable.

929
01:13:22.110 --> 01:13:31.110
Jeezy: But if you ask the family, the American family that's filling up a tank, which I'mma be pissed off, because when I get off this pod, I gotta go fill.

930
01:13:31.110 --> 01:13:31.740
Chairman of Chaos: One of my…

931
01:13:31.740 --> 01:13:36.259
Jeezy: cards, and I already know it's gonna cost me 60 plus.

932
01:13:36.260 --> 01:13:39.610
Manny: I filled up my wife's car earlier this week.

933
01:13:39.860 --> 01:13:41.230
Manny: 64.

934
01:13:41.540 --> 01:13:42.600
Chairman of Chaos: P.

935
01:13:42.780 --> 01:13:47.900
Jeezy: You ask families that are filling up their tanks, Paying rent.

936
01:13:48.070 --> 01:13:54.249
Jeezy: buying groceries, And trying to stretch one paycheck across 5 emergencies.

937
01:13:54.970 --> 01:13:56.049
Jeezy: They may say.

938
01:13:56.050 --> 01:13:56.410
Chairman of Chaos: 4.

939
01:13:56.410 --> 01:13:56.980
Jeezy: Who?

940
01:13:57.210 --> 01:14:09.169
Jeezy: Who are you saying is stable for? And if you really take that into consideration as a politician, or just the landscape of what the 2026 election may possibly be, and going forward.

941
01:14:10.070 --> 01:14:11.890
Jeezy: That's a political danger zone.

942
01:14:12.150 --> 01:14:22.070
Jeezy: Because there ain't but so much you can keep telling me, oh, life is good, life is grand, when I gotta decide whether to keep the… to pay the water bill, or the light bill.

943
01:14:22.630 --> 01:14:23.930
Jeezy: I can pay the rent.

944
01:14:24.130 --> 01:14:33.489
Jeezy: But we might have to go lights out for a couple of days. Or hey, we all just gonna have to share this… we gonna have to eat oodles and noodles for the rest of the week, which I ain't down to oodles and noodles.

945
01:14:34.370 --> 01:14:35.140
Chairman of Chaos: I am.

946
01:14:35.880 --> 01:14:39.570
Jeezy: I ain't gonna down them, because, hey, you do what you…

947
01:14:40.040 --> 01:14:45.259
Chairman of Chaos: I mean, I'm not down… I'm not down… I'm not down if you eat them. My wife and kids eat them. I down them.

948
01:14:45.260 --> 01:14:48.329
Jeezy: Hey, look, I get fancy with mine, I put shrimp in mine, I get…

949
01:14:48.330 --> 01:14:49.910
Manny: Hello, bro.

950
01:14:49.910 --> 01:14:52.070
Jeezy: The Lord done blessed me real good.

951
01:14:52.070 --> 01:14:53.240
Manny: Wait, I…

952
01:14:53.240 --> 01:14:57.259
Jeezy: I eat them by choice, and not because I have to. Hello. Amen, brother.

953
01:14:57.260 --> 01:14:58.160
Chairman of Chaos: Amen, amen.

954
01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:01.160
Jeezy: That's a reality for some.

955
01:15:01.970 --> 01:15:07.449
Jeezy: And when you continuously shove down the throats, paws of the American people.

956
01:15:07.650 --> 01:15:18.850
Jeezy: that life is great for you. Life is grand. Everything's fine, but you don't see that my babies are crying from hunger. You don't see that I don't have the affordability between

957
01:15:18.850 --> 01:15:30.430
Jeezy: formula and Pampers. We're not even getting into the mothers that have children, multiple children on this Mother's Day weekend, bruh, that have to provide, and gotta figure out which way they gonna get it and how they gonna get it.

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01:15:30.430 --> 01:15:30.960
Chairman of Chaos: stress.

959
01:15:30.960 --> 01:15:33.699
Jeezy: You keep telling me that life is good.

960
01:15:34.380 --> 01:15:35.259
Jeezy: Can't happen, bro.

961
01:15:35.260 --> 01:15:35.980
Chairman of Chaos: Yes, sir.

962
01:15:36.150 --> 01:15:37.250
Chairman of Chaos: It can't happen.

963
01:15:37.250 --> 01:15:43.070
Jeezy: So, at some point, Are you going to align yourself with the people?

964
01:15:44.550 --> 01:15:58.970
Jeezy: Or are you gonna align yourself with the platform that puts you in that place, that supports you in that place, the billions of dollars that come in your pocket, the millions of dollars that come into your pocket, that fund you to make the decisions that benefits them.

965
01:15:59.430 --> 01:16:02.090
Jeezy: but hurts the American people.

966
01:16:03.320 --> 01:16:06.119
Manny: People always vote their pocketbook at the end of the day.

967
01:16:06.700 --> 01:16:07.690
Audio shared by Jeezy: Message!

968
01:16:08.030 --> 01:16:17.269
Chairman of Chaos: This message is brought to you by our good brother, Jesus. Good boy, who's preacher. Listen, that's a perfect way to sum up that portion.

969
01:16:17.270 --> 01:16:18.570
Manny: Ain't nothing more to say on that.

970
01:16:18.570 --> 01:16:20.389
Chairman of Chaos: Ain't that boy to say, that boy is preaching.

971
01:16:21.040 --> 01:16:24.299
Jeezy: So, got a decision to make, but at the end of the day.

972
01:16:25.370 --> 01:16:26.230
Manny: The day gotta end.

973
01:16:26.590 --> 01:16:30.409
Jeezy: They gotta end, bruh. God, dude, man.

974
01:16:31.830 --> 01:16:40.879
Jeezy: That is our coverage of the economy and our update of it. So, at this point, we are in the episode where we bring you our pickle of the week.

975
01:16:40.880 --> 01:16:45.469
Audio shared by Jeezy: And I'd get us all into the biggest pickle any of us had ever seen.

976
01:16:46.300 --> 01:16:47.499
Jeezy: Boy, we got a pickle today.

977
01:16:47.500 --> 01:16:49.459
Manny: Who's in the brine?

978
01:16:49.980 --> 01:16:50.689
Chairman of Chaos: And this could be…

979
01:16:50.690 --> 01:16:56.849
Jeezy: This pickle might be a little different, and I don't know if I feel like I just finished preaching, but I guess I got an afternoon service.

980
01:16:56.850 --> 01:17:02.550
Manny: Go ahead and get some, get some… get a play from downstairs.

981
01:17:02.550 --> 01:17:06.450
Jeezy: Yeah, we done went to Western Season, and bro, we were a proper people.

982
01:17:07.880 --> 01:17:09.999
Chairman of Chaos: We're proper people, brother. Brother, go ahead.

983
01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:12.499
Jeezy: Where you would drink out of them tenant cups?

984
01:17:12.690 --> 01:17:14.720
Manny: Yes, sir?

985
01:17:14.720 --> 01:17:15.100
Jeezy: added.

986
01:17:15.100 --> 01:17:15.800
Manny: Completely.

987
01:17:15.800 --> 01:17:20.730
Jeezy: You couldn't hold the whole meals, or that's the way that you had to keep… you didn't handle his butt to keep getting up.

988
01:17:20.870 --> 01:17:21.400
Chairman of Chaos: Yes, sir.

989
01:17:21.400 --> 01:17:25.110
Jeezy: You had a… when you had a felon that was carving the beef.

990
01:17:25.900 --> 01:17:27.230
Manny: Top tier.

991
01:17:28.290 --> 01:17:30.949
Jeezy: And you knew this was… this was it for him.

992
01:17:31.350 --> 01:17:33.430
Chairman of Chaos: And that macaroni and cheese.

993
01:17:33.430 --> 01:17:33.900
Jeezy: Yes, sir.

994
01:17:33.900 --> 01:17:35.910
Chairman of Chaos: It's… Woo!

995
01:17:35.910 --> 01:17:39.080
Jeezy: And you seen so many colors and blends together on a Sunday?

996
01:17:40.390 --> 01:17:43.470
Jeezy: I mean, you got every color on the rainbow, bruh.

997
01:17:43.720 --> 01:17:44.570
Chairman of Chaos: Yes, sir.

998
01:17:44.570 --> 01:17:46.460
Jeezy: That we were proper people, but…

999
01:17:46.460 --> 01:17:47.499
Chairman of Chaos: A couple of people there.

1000
01:17:47.500 --> 01:17:49.870
Jeezy: For my pickle, I'mma do something a little different.

1001
01:17:50.510 --> 01:17:53.840
Jeezy: This week's Pickle of the Week goes to a group that

1002
01:17:54.180 --> 01:18:00.829
Jeezy: That usually gets talked about in politics, but not always listened to.

1003
01:18:00.930 --> 01:18:01.799
Jeezy: And that's a bad…

1004
01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:02.140
Manny: People?

1005
01:18:02.140 --> 01:18:03.250
Jeezy: be in.

1006
01:18:04.690 --> 01:18:05.790
Manny: Sorry.

1007
01:18:05.790 --> 01:18:06.250
Audio shared by Jeezy: absence!

1008
01:18:08.390 --> 01:18:09.440
Chairman of Chaos: Himosha.

1009
01:18:09.440 --> 01:18:09.760
Manny: Right.

1010
01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:10.320
Chairman of Chaos: Yes, sir.

1011
01:18:11.230 --> 01:18:16.759
Jeezy: We got a group of people that they get talked about a lot, and I would… and the more I thought about this pickle.

1012
01:18:17.610 --> 01:18:19.600
Jeezy: The abuse is real.

1013
01:18:20.310 --> 01:18:21.350
Jeezy: Not black.

1014
01:18:21.810 --> 01:18:23.550
Jeezy: But the abuse is real.

1015
01:18:23.780 --> 01:18:26.579
Jeezy: And the pickle for this week is the American Farmer.

1016
01:18:27.160 --> 01:18:27.980
Manny: Mmm.

1017
01:18:28.200 --> 01:18:29.729
Jeezy: Now, let's be clear.

1018
01:18:30.410 --> 01:18:41.610
Jeezy: The American farmer is not in a pickle because they did something wrong. I know sometimes, and that's why I say this is a different spin. Most of the time when I give you the pickle, it's somebody that done got theirself in a pickle, done something wrong.

1019
01:18:42.320 --> 01:18:47.780
Jeezy: This isn't the case. They are in a pickle because they are stuck in the middle of a political mess.

1020
01:18:48.250 --> 01:18:49.990
Jeezy: That they did not create.

1021
01:18:51.120 --> 01:18:57.390
Jeezy: Farmers are looking at the cost diesel… Fertilizer?

1022
01:18:57.870 --> 01:19:04.450
Jeezy: Labor… Credit… Equipment, Tariffs?

1023
01:19:04.630 --> 01:19:05.420
Chairman of Chaos: What else?

1024
01:19:05.420 --> 01:19:06.560
Jeezy: Trade…

1025
01:19:06.560 --> 01:19:07.320
Chairman of Chaos: What else?

1026
01:19:07.320 --> 01:19:08.500
Jeezy: Weather…

1027
01:19:08.500 --> 01:19:08.939
Chairman of Chaos: What else?

1028
01:19:08.940 --> 01:19:15.490
Jeezy: And at some point, they stop calling that market pressure and start calling it what it is.

1029
01:19:15.930 --> 01:19:22.119
Jeezy: These farmers… Are in a full… Blown squeezed.

1030
01:19:22.700 --> 01:19:25.880
Manny: Now, now, Jace, I think you were very generous.

1031
01:19:26.180 --> 01:19:29.239
Manny: To say that they did not get themselves into this.

1032
01:19:29.240 --> 01:19:32.920
Jeezy: See, sometimes, brother, when you… when you gotta…

1033
01:19:32.920 --> 01:19:35.100
Chairman of Chaos: Let him walk it. Let him walk it.

1034
01:19:35.100 --> 01:19:35.969
Manny: We'll let you out.

1035
01:19:35.970 --> 01:19:42.469
Jeezy: You don't point it directly, sometimes you just gotta indirectly. In the church, they say you gotta… this is how you step on toes.

1036
01:19:42.470 --> 01:19:42.980
Manny: Yes.

1037
01:19:43.230 --> 01:19:45.219
Chairman of Chaos: Let him walk it, let him walk it.

1038
01:19:45.700 --> 01:19:48.049
Jeezy: So there was a clip that happened this past week.

1039
01:19:48.420 --> 01:20:05.770
Jeezy: Where there was a farmer slamming the Trump administration over high costs, saying that they don't know what the heck they're doing, and whether you agree with his politics or not, the frustration for these farmers are real. Farmers are saying the math isn't mathing, and they're right. And when farmers are saying.

1040
01:20:05.900 --> 01:20:07.569
Jeezy: That the math is bad.

1041
01:20:08.100 --> 01:20:09.379
Manny: The math be bad.

1042
01:20:09.380 --> 01:20:10.950
Jeezy: No… no shade.

1043
01:20:10.950 --> 01:20:12.170
Manny: The math be bad.

1044
01:20:12.170 --> 01:20:13.140
Jeezy: Math is bad.

1045
01:20:14.460 --> 01:20:17.660
Jeezy: So, the biggest issue is simple for the farmer.

1046
01:20:18.070 --> 01:20:21.760
Jeezy: The cost of farming has exploded.

1047
01:20:22.870 --> 01:20:25.009
Jeezy: You got… diesel.

1048
01:20:25.750 --> 01:20:33.729
Jeezy: You have the tariffs, you have all of these things that are impacting them, and this is not just a farmer problem.

1049
01:20:34.140 --> 01:20:37.599
Jeezy: It's bigger than the farm. It's a grocery store problem, problem.

1050
01:20:37.990 --> 01:20:47.349
Jeezy: When farmers are paying more for diesel, fertilizer, feed, labor, parts, equipment, and loans, those costs eventually move… guess what?

1051
01:20:47.900 --> 01:20:49.850
Jeezy: Through the food supply chain.

1052
01:20:50.100 --> 01:20:51.410
Manny: Downhill.

1053
01:20:51.410 --> 01:20:53.809
Jeezy: That means that consumers can feel

1054
01:20:53.930 --> 01:21:10.810
Jeezy: it in beef, they can fill it in dairy, they can fill it in eggs, they can fill it in produce, they can fill it in grain products and processed foods. So when people ask, why is food so expensive, part of the answer may be sitting on a farm where a person growing the food is barely making their numbers to work.

1055
01:21:12.610 --> 01:21:14.009
Jeezy: And that is the irony.

1056
01:21:14.280 --> 01:21:20.900
Jeezy: Farmers can be feeding America while struggling to feed Their own balance sheets.

1057
01:21:21.720 --> 01:21:25.260
Jeezy: And that is a… nasty.

1058
01:21:25.620 --> 01:21:26.819
Jeezy: Pickle the beard.

1059
01:21:27.950 --> 01:21:28.620
Jeezy: So…

1060
01:21:29.160 --> 01:21:29.720
Manny: Yeah.

1061
01:21:29.940 --> 01:21:31.380
Jeezy: Farmers are in a pickle.

1062
01:21:32.020 --> 01:21:35.330
Jeezy: Not because… They are the villain.

1063
01:21:36.150 --> 01:21:37.859
Jeezy: But they're trapped in the jar.

1064
01:21:38.830 --> 01:21:39.330
Manny: Yeah.

1065
01:21:39.330 --> 01:21:52.800
Jeezy: squeezed by tariffs, fuel prices, fertilizer costs, global impact, political promises that sound good at rallies, and that's the thing that kills me. They get these farmers at these rallies, and they sound good, and they promise all these things.

1066
01:21:53.650 --> 01:21:54.980
Manny: Where's the delivery?

1067
01:21:54.980 --> 01:21:57.620
Jeezy: But brother, it get real expensive out on that field.

1068
01:21:58.910 --> 01:22:00.950
Jeezy: And the scary part is this.

1069
01:22:02.370 --> 01:22:08.759
Jeezy: When the farmer is hurting, America does not feel it right away.

1070
01:22:09.500 --> 01:22:10.799
Jeezy: We feel it later.

1071
01:22:11.480 --> 01:22:13.240
Jeezy: At the checkout line?

1072
01:22:14.070 --> 01:22:17.250
Jeezy: At the dinner table, And at the price?

1073
01:22:18.140 --> 01:22:19.480
Jeezy: Of feeding our family.

1074
01:22:19.690 --> 01:22:23.739
Jeezy: So, to Washington, I would say this as a message from the farm.

1075
01:22:24.270 --> 01:22:27.870
Jeezy: Stop treating farmers like campaign props.

1076
01:22:28.140 --> 01:22:31.970
Jeezy: And start treating them like the backbone of the food system here in America.

1077
01:22:32.300 --> 01:22:36.430
Jeezy: Because if people growing the food are drowning in costs.

1078
01:22:37.250 --> 01:22:39.420
Jeezy: Eventually, everyone else is gonna taste it.

1079
01:22:40.730 --> 01:22:41.430
Manny: Facts.

1080
01:22:41.430 --> 01:22:45.880
Jeezy: farmer, Right now, Is, like, invite him to the cookout.

1081
01:22:46.380 --> 01:22:47.799
Jeezy: Charging them for the meat.

1082
01:22:48.160 --> 01:22:50.060
Jeezy: Taxing them for the charcoal.

1083
01:22:50.510 --> 01:22:52.450
Jeezy: Giving them a tariff on the grill.

1084
01:22:52.910 --> 01:22:54.749
Jeezy: And asking them why they complaining.

1085
01:22:55.200 --> 01:22:56.339
Jeezy: You're at the cookout.

1086
01:22:59.430 --> 01:23:02.170
Jeezy: So the farmers, the American farmers.

1087
01:23:02.810 --> 01:23:05.609
Jeezy: You're in a pickle. You're in a pickle, man. Not because you did anything.

1088
01:23:06.270 --> 01:23:08.829
Jeezy: Because at this point, I think you may be the one people

1089
01:23:09.690 --> 01:23:14.900
Jeezy: Well, no, I'm not gonna say that. And where you're at, you may be the only ones that…

1090
01:23:15.010 --> 01:23:17.570
Jeezy: Are stuck in a jar, and you can't get out.

1091
01:23:18.240 --> 01:23:18.820
Manny: Yeah.

1092
01:23:19.140 --> 01:23:22.419
Chairman of Chaos: Well, I think I see where Manny was going earlier.

1093
01:23:23.320 --> 01:23:24.340
Manny: Yep.

1094
01:23:24.340 --> 01:23:25.820
Chairman of Chaos: They did put themselves in this pickle.

1095
01:23:26.380 --> 01:23:35.099
Manny: Look, the only thing on that list, Geez, that I don't attribute to the follow-up of your own decisions is the weather.

1096
01:23:35.890 --> 01:23:36.779
Jeezy: Oh, for sure.

1097
01:23:38.270 --> 01:23:43.100
Manny: Everything else here was a clearly avoidable situation.

1098
01:23:43.100 --> 01:23:47.739
Jeezy: But I want you to, as an American farmer, to sit with that.

1099
01:23:47.820 --> 01:23:48.600
Manny: Yeah, you gotta.

1100
01:23:48.600 --> 01:23:50.960
Chairman of Chaos: You gotta ask me, you gotta ask me if…

1101
01:23:50.960 --> 01:23:53.399
Jeezy: Because when you say, well, why am I in this position?

1102
01:23:53.400 --> 01:23:55.019
Chairman of Chaos: The conviction!

1103
01:23:55.210 --> 01:24:00.430
Jeezy: See, you ain't always gotta speak directly to it for the conviction to happen.

1104
01:24:00.430 --> 01:24:01.849
Chairman of Chaos: Just sit there, sometimes.

1105
01:24:01.850 --> 01:24:04.789
Jeezy: Sometimes something in the midnight hour.

1106
01:24:05.250 --> 01:24:06.930
Manny: Stirs up in your spirit.

1107
01:24:06.930 --> 01:24:08.479
Jeezy: to stir up in you.

1108
01:24:08.480 --> 01:24:11.250
Chairman of Chaos: The Spirit. Yes, sir, yes, sir.

1109
01:24:11.250 --> 01:24:12.619
Jeezy: That'll speak to you.

1110
01:24:12.770 --> 01:24:14.320
Jeezy: That'll tell you.

1111
01:24:14.890 --> 01:24:17.069
Jeezy: And convict you of what you've done.

1112
01:24:17.170 --> 01:24:21.329
Jeezy: To our American farmers, I hope that You take that pickle.

1113
01:24:21.540 --> 01:24:24.620
Jeezy: And let it use you like it should.

1114
01:24:24.620 --> 01:24:25.200
Manny: Hmm.

1115
01:24:26.040 --> 01:24:27.349
Jeezy: The doors of the church are now open.

1116
01:24:27.990 --> 01:24:29.010
Chairman of Chaos: Yes, sir, yes, sir.

1117
01:24:30.570 --> 01:24:34.489
Jeezy: To our listeners, we've reached the end of our episode, where…

1118
01:24:34.590 --> 01:24:36.929
Jeezy: You guys know we like to give you…

1119
01:24:37.460 --> 01:24:39.729
Jeezy: Our spotlight of the week, so…

1120
01:24:39.860 --> 01:24:43.449
Jeezy: I'll go to you, Manny. What's your spotlight of the week, brother?

1121
01:24:43.640 --> 01:24:49.600
Manny: Man, so, on May 7th, some… Updated things happened.

1122
01:24:49.750 --> 01:25:00.499
Manny: The USDA published a final rule overhauling stocking standards for all SNAP-authorized retailers nationwide.

1123
01:25:00.640 --> 01:25:16.079
Manny: And what we're seeing in these standards is the largest requirement update since the 2014 Farm Bill. And conveniently, all of these new rules are gonna go into effect November 4th.

1124
01:25:16.230 --> 01:25:20.030
Manny: 2026, the day after the midterm elections.

1125
01:25:20.360 --> 01:25:23.259
Manny: And yes, you might ask what they changed, so…

1126
01:25:23.560 --> 01:25:43.329
Manny: What it essentially means is that the requirement of what businesses and companies have to do to keep, being eligible to accept SNAP benefits from people who are paying has changed. So, the old rule was, at a minimum.

1127
01:25:43.430 --> 01:25:50.569
Manny: to be able to accept SNAP benefits, you had to have 36 staple food items across 4 categories.

1128
01:25:50.920 --> 01:25:55.599
Manny: That's proteins, grains, dairy, fruits and vegetables.

1129
01:25:56.530 --> 01:26:09.800
Manny: Only two categories were required to have perishable items, and then snack foods like chips, beef jerky, protein bars, and ice cream also help count towards that minimum.

1130
01:26:10.300 --> 01:26:12.189
Manny: Well, under this new rule.

1131
01:26:12.290 --> 01:26:19.739
Manny: They are requ… they… the minimum is they have to have 7 varieties of each of the 4 categories.

1132
01:26:19.740 --> 01:26:20.720
Jeezy: Ain't gonna happen.

1133
01:26:21.210 --> 01:26:27.659
Manny: The perishable food is now required in 3 categories, going up from 2.

1134
01:26:27.890 --> 01:26:33.989
Manny: They've closed that snack food loophole, so chips, candy, donuts, ice cream…

1135
01:26:34.100 --> 01:26:41.430
Manny: Are all reclassified as accessory foods and no longer count towards staple food minimums.

1136
01:26:41.910 --> 01:26:50.420
Manny: And… yeah, RFK has said this rule puts real food back at the center of SNAP.

1137
01:26:51.050 --> 01:26:58.320
Manny: And why I highlight this is this is… Policy that reads very good.

1138
01:26:58.990 --> 01:27:03.619
Manny: But has real impacts that most people aren't thinking about.

1139
01:27:04.040 --> 01:27:15.900
Manny: So, in terms… yes, yes, requiring perishable foods, requiring fresh fruits, that… very, very important. Yes, more variety for consumers. Yes, this all reads very good.

1140
01:27:16.720 --> 01:27:24.199
Manny: And your large super… your large stores, your Walmarts, your Kroger's, your Publix, your Food Lions.

1141
01:27:24.380 --> 01:27:29.480
Manny: I've already exceeded those by margins. Like, they're all… they're good. They're… no risk.

1142
01:27:29.710 --> 01:27:38.939
Manny: But what that does hurt Is your local, local businesses, your smaller businesses, and this concept of food deserts.

1143
01:27:38.940 --> 01:27:52.060
Manny: Now, you might have heard the term food deserts before, but food deserts… what it's classified as a low-income residential area with limited access to affordable, nutritious foods.

1144
01:27:52.060 --> 01:27:55.210
Manny: Specifically, fresh fruits and vegetables.

1145
01:27:55.310 --> 01:28:10.369
Manny: And it's typically defined by the absence of a grocery store within traveling distance. And they classify traveling distance as 1 mile from a supermarket in an urban area and 10 miles in a rural area.

1146
01:28:11.550 --> 01:28:15.970
Manny: So, you guys probably all heard this and be like, what does this mean?

1147
01:28:16.260 --> 01:28:18.420
Manny: Well, ultimately.

1148
01:28:18.500 --> 01:28:29.810
Manny: there are going to be a lot of small corner stores that used to be able to take SNAP benefits and lessen the amount of food deserts that we see across the country.

1149
01:28:29.810 --> 01:28:41.139
Manny: Lose the ability to be able to accept those, so not only do you get a potential impact to small businesses, you see a major impact on the people being able to access any food.

1150
01:28:41.140 --> 01:28:47.750
Manny: So now you have SNAP benefits, and now you can't get to a place that will be able to accept them.

1151
01:28:48.150 --> 01:29:03.840
Manny: And before we go ahead and, you know, completely hit the Trump administration about this, he's not the only one. In 2016, the Obama administration finalized a near-identical

1152
01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:14.310
Manny: list of restocking changes in its last 40 days. And what happened is retailers, legislators, and food advocates challenged the rule.

1153
01:29:14.620 --> 01:29:23.659
Manny: and stopped it. This, this work, this finalization, basically finalizes that framework that was set up in 2016.

1154
01:29:24.210 --> 01:29:27.339
Manny: And ultimately, man, here's the question.

1155
01:29:28.590 --> 01:29:47.940
Manny: How many of these small, you know, corner stores, independent grocery stores, bodegas are going to be impacted? We're already talking about the economy struggling, small businesses struggling. We don't have a national number about how many of these small corner independent stores actually exist.

1156
01:29:48.320 --> 01:29:50.500
Manny: Because nobody counts it that way.

1157
01:29:50.960 --> 01:30:00.180
Manny: But in your local communities, in smaller communities, the corner store with an EBT sign or a SNAP sign.

1158
01:30:00.420 --> 01:30:09.060
Manny: was a sign to the public that we are here to support you, that this is a government program that is here to support you. It is moving government to the people.

1159
01:30:09.200 --> 01:30:20.409
Manny: That is now going away. So not only do I feel as though, will this rule hurt small businesses and wipe small businesses, some small businesses off the board completely.

1160
01:30:20.500 --> 01:30:30.630
Manny: What it will actually do is also make it harder for people to find any type… you know, before we can talk about nutritious food, let's just talk about food in general.

1161
01:30:31.380 --> 01:30:33.850
Manny: It'll lessen the impact of those.

1162
01:30:34.690 --> 01:30:39.549
Manny: Some ideas read good on paper, but is the implementation of policy.

1163
01:30:40.070 --> 01:30:48.489
Manny: Where things get really dangerous. And I believe this is a really, really dangerous… Path that we're going down.

1164
01:30:50.070 --> 01:30:58.510
Manny: all from the same administration that was cutting $230 billion from SNAP earlier in the administration.

1165
01:30:58.960 --> 01:30:59.730
Manny: So…

1166
01:30:59.880 --> 01:31:05.579
Manny: That's my spotlight, we'll see how it plays out. Again, this doesn't kick in until the day after the election.

1167
01:31:05.780 --> 01:31:07.790
Manny: But we'll see what happens.

1168
01:31:08.070 --> 01:31:08.620
Manny: So…

1169
01:31:08.620 --> 01:31:09.410
Jeezy: Alright.

1170
01:31:09.670 --> 01:31:11.230
Jeezy: Brother Chuck, what you got?

1171
01:31:12.540 --> 01:31:19.530
Chairman of Chaos: My spotlight takes a turn, from the political space a bit. I am a…

1172
01:31:19.660 --> 01:31:25.720
Chairman of Chaos: Long time and avid fan of the Atlanta Braves, and at the time of this recording.

1173
01:31:25.840 --> 01:31:32.590
Chairman of Chaos: We have lost one of our most revered and outstanding managers, Mr. Bobby Cox.

1174
01:31:33.870 --> 01:31:42.660
Chairman of Chaos: He was 84, I believe, had, congenital heart failure and a couple of different things. But you lived to 84, a nice long…

1175
01:31:42.930 --> 01:31:44.400
Manny: It's a lot worse, less light.

1176
01:31:44.400 --> 01:31:45.160
Chairman of Chaos: Life, too.

1177
01:31:45.160 --> 01:31:46.149
Jeezy: A lot of days.

1178
01:31:47.030 --> 01:31:49.070
Chairman of Chaos: But not just him.

1179
01:31:49.550 --> 01:31:53.369
Chairman of Chaos: the former owner of the Atlanta Braves.

1180
01:31:54.480 --> 01:31:59.350
Chairman of Chaos: Mr. Robert Edward Turner II, or the III, excuse me.

1181
01:31:59.740 --> 01:32:02.329
Chairman of Chaos: Most notably known as Ted Turner.

1182
01:32:02.990 --> 01:32:04.619
Chairman of Chaos: Passed away earlier in the week.

1183
01:32:04.820 --> 01:32:11.860
Chairman of Chaos: And so my spotlight is more so… about Ted Turner, for his contribution

1184
01:32:12.050 --> 01:32:17.299
Chairman of Chaos: to the news space. Ted Turner was a media mogul.

1185
01:32:18.360 --> 01:32:24.119
Chairman of Chaos: was the founder of CNN, the first 24-hour cable news channel.

1186
01:32:24.740 --> 01:32:27.949
Chairman of Chaos: In addition to, he founded WTBS,

1187
01:32:28.240 --> 01:32:33.840
Chairman of Chaos: which later on spurred the Super… spurned and pioneered the Superstation.

1188
01:32:35.280 --> 01:32:45.079
Chairman of Chaos: this concept in cable television where you can get any and everything on there, and which gave us the likes of TBS, TNT,

1189
01:32:45.500 --> 01:32:48.700
Chairman of Chaos: many of you who love Cartoon Network and turn.

1190
01:32:48.700 --> 01:32:49.540
Manny: WCW.

1191
01:32:50.690 --> 01:32:56.440
Chairman of Chaos: Bruh, why you… why are you stepping on my words? Sorry, sorry. I'm gonna go sit down.

1192
01:32:56.440 --> 01:32:57.160
Manny: No.

1193
01:32:57.400 --> 01:32:59.170
Chairman of Chaos: Jeez!

1194
01:32:59.970 --> 01:33:14.700
Chairman of Chaos: But yes, this is where I was headed next. But he also, in 1988, purchased Jim Crockett Promotions and converted that to WCW Wrestling, which was the time period where I was.

1195
01:33:14.700 --> 01:33:15.310
Jeezy: promotion.

1196
01:33:15.460 --> 01:33:18.390
Jeezy: I can hear Dusty Rose saying it, bro.

1197
01:33:18.390 --> 01:33:25.319
Chairman of Chaos: Yes, sir. During the height of my, fandom in wrestling.

1198
01:33:25.700 --> 01:33:42.289
Chairman of Chaos: I was a big WCW fan, and at the height of their popularity, the mid-90s to early 2000s, when they were in their war with being WWE, and the Monday Night Wars, you had Nitro, you had Monday Night Raw.

1199
01:33:42.710 --> 01:33:43.380
Chairman of Chaos: No.

1200
01:33:43.750 --> 01:33:46.830
Chairman of Chaos: some of the highlights of…

1201
01:33:46.830 --> 01:33:47.250
Jeezy: Best.

1202
01:33:47.250 --> 01:33:53.399
Chairman of Chaos: School, and life, where you went to school the next day, and you had your factions, and…

1203
01:33:54.080 --> 01:33:55.430
Chairman of Chaos: What a time, what a time.

1204
01:33:55.430 --> 01:33:56.000
Jeezy: Damn.

1205
01:33:57.270 --> 01:33:59.779
Chairman of Chaos: Little known… little known fact…

1206
01:34:00.930 --> 01:34:09.930
Chairman of Chaos: Ted Turner also was a pioneer in the creation of our beloved Captain Planet and the Planeteers.

1207
01:34:09.930 --> 01:34:10.940
Jeezy: Dang!

1208
01:34:10.940 --> 01:34:12.139
Manny: Oh, I didn't realize that.

1209
01:34:12.140 --> 01:34:12.610
Jeezy: I didn't know that.

1210
01:34:12.610 --> 01:34:12.930
Chairman of Chaos: It is.

1211
01:34:12.930 --> 01:34:13.470
Jeezy: Okay.

1212
01:34:13.470 --> 01:34:21.800
Chairman of Chaos: He, he was… he's such a… he was such a staunch, conservationists, and… and he actually…

1213
01:34:22.590 --> 01:34:31.010
Chairman of Chaos: held the largest private-owned… private owner of land in the U.S. up until, I wanna say… 2011.

1214
01:34:31.370 --> 01:34:35.310
Chairman of Chaos: He was the, largest, single land owner.

1215
01:34:36.070 --> 01:34:45.240
Chairman of Chaos: where he used this, land to have ranches to repopularize bison, and something that I did not know

1216
01:34:45.380 --> 01:34:47.919
Chairman of Chaos: prior to Ted's Montana Grill.

1217
01:34:48.530 --> 01:34:51.660
Chairman of Chaos: is a… is territory.

1218
01:34:51.660 --> 01:34:52.940
Manny: I got one in Durham.

1219
01:34:53.110 --> 01:34:56.789
Chairman of Chaos: Yeah. Yeah, I didn't know that. Popularized with the Bison Burger.

1220
01:34:57.480 --> 01:34:58.350
Chairman of Chaos: So…

1221
01:34:58.690 --> 01:35:08.319
Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, I just want to acknowledge, Ted Turner and… and the same light, my boy Bobby Cox, but Ted Turner and… and his,

1222
01:35:09.650 --> 01:35:11.650
Chairman of Chaos: Monstrous contributions.

1223
01:35:11.650 --> 01:35:11.980
Jeezy: Yes.

1224
01:35:11.980 --> 01:35:16.420
Chairman of Chaos: To… not the television space, but also the news cycle.

1225
01:35:16.890 --> 01:35:26.840
Chairman of Chaos: he had a rivalry with Rupert Murdoch, and for those who don't know, Rupert Murdoch is the founder of Fox and Fox News.

1226
01:35:27.070 --> 01:35:30.810
Chairman of Chaos: So two media conglomerate, Bogles.

1227
01:35:31.250 --> 01:35:38.440
Chairman of Chaos: It stretches back to, like, a yacht accident.

1228
01:35:38.440 --> 01:35:41.669
Manny: Yeah, the rich man beef.

1229
01:35:42.160 --> 01:35:42.999
Chairman of Chaos: What a habits.

1230
01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:44.919
Jeezy: like that in life.

1231
01:35:44.920 --> 01:35:57.010
Chairman of Chaos: And you actually can see the stemming of that beef and how it played out in the broadcasting of CNN and Fox News, even to this day. So…

1232
01:35:57.040 --> 01:36:05.909
Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, my spotlight is Ted Turner. Thank you for your contributions to television, thank you for your contributions to…

1233
01:36:05.990 --> 01:36:13.079
Chairman of Chaos: The news and 24-hour news service. Thank you for your contributions as an Atlanta resident myself.

1234
01:36:13.460 --> 01:36:16.619
Chairman of Chaos: To what you gave to this area, he,

1235
01:36:16.940 --> 01:36:23.409
Chairman of Chaos: was originally from Ohio, but I know when he came back from college and his folks were in Macon.

1236
01:36:23.830 --> 01:36:26.020
Chairman of Chaos: Oh, my grandfather lives, actually.

1237
01:36:26.020 --> 01:36:26.380
Jeezy: Dang!

1238
01:36:26.380 --> 01:36:27.300
Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, no.

1239
01:36:28.420 --> 01:36:32.949
Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, so there's nothing… Bacon is.

1240
01:36:32.950 --> 01:36:35.999
Jeezy: Oh, thank you for the… Thank you for the.

1241
01:36:36.000 --> 01:36:37.650
Manny: contribution to my childhood.

1242
01:36:37.650 --> 01:36:38.150
Jeezy: Bruh, fantastic.

1243
01:36:38.150 --> 01:36:40.089
Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, for sure, for sure.

1244
01:36:40.090 --> 01:36:40.440
Jeezy: win.

1245
01:36:40.910 --> 01:36:42.100
Jeezy: Water.

1246
01:36:44.600 --> 01:36:46.630
Chairman of Chaos: Well, yeah, shout out to the man.

1247
01:36:46.630 --> 01:36:53.390
Jeezy: Shout out to Ed Turner, man. Well, I'mma follow, in a similar light of acknowledgement that my brother has done.

1248
01:36:53.530 --> 01:37:04.769
Jeezy: And I was gonna talk about another topic, but I think I'm gonna save it, for the spotlight another time when I can, really, get ignorant with it, but…

1249
01:37:05.240 --> 01:37:12.030
Jeezy: I will say this, and it's been mentioned before, with this being Mother's Day, another thing, a lot of what's taking place.

1250
01:37:12.340 --> 01:37:15.429
Jeezy: This week, this past weekend, was graduation.

1251
01:37:16.170 --> 01:37:18.730
Jeezy: And I first want to congratulate all of those.

1252
01:37:18.730 --> 01:37:19.840
Manny: Congratulations.

1253
01:37:19.840 --> 01:37:35.200
Jeezy: have, crossed the stage and reached this milestone in their life, and it's a major accomplishment, and I wanted to say shout out to you getting to that finish line, whether you got over that finish line.

1254
01:37:35.370 --> 01:37:49.489
Jeezy: In clean, clear fashion, or you got over that finish line, winning and wounded. At the end of the day, you got over that finish line. And for it to happen on Mother's Day, and to have the love, and just to see all the…

1255
01:37:49.690 --> 01:37:51.970
Jeezy: The pictures and the videos.

1256
01:37:52.210 --> 01:38:00.790
Jeezy: I had my chuckle with Deion Sanders and his, his wife, ex-wife, excuse me, Pillard, their daughter, Chalamet.

1257
01:38:01.240 --> 01:38:02.789
Chairman of Chaos: Mommy, she graduated.

1258
01:38:02.790 --> 01:38:13.200
Jeezy: You know, this weekend, so, you know, Shador was making jokes about how they both were together and everything, but, you know, one thing that was good to me, two things I want to point out, well, three.

1259
01:38:13.520 --> 01:38:16.640
Jeezy: My youngest daughter, excuse me, my middle daughter.

1260
01:38:16.920 --> 01:38:26.100
Jeezy: Her, her principal graduated with her master… I mean, with her doctorate from A&T, North Carolina A&T, so shout out to her, Dr. Ingram now.

1261
01:38:26.220 --> 01:38:33.870
Jeezy: But also, another one I want to highlight is, someone we know very well in our community as, Ninth Wonder.

1262
01:38:34.240 --> 01:38:38.450
Jeezy: Who graduated from North Carolina Central this past weekend.

1263
01:38:38.590 --> 01:38:45.209
Jeezy: Highlighting his 20, 20-plus year journey to get to that finish line, and and a marker,

1264
01:38:45.460 --> 01:38:56.380
Jeezy: a remarkable accomplishment of not giving up on that dream, and seeing it through, and finally getting over that finish line. But also, lastly, just want to highlight

1265
01:38:56.770 --> 01:38:58.000
Jeezy: A gentleman.

1266
01:38:58.850 --> 01:39:01.999
Jeezy: that is of the name of Ken…

1267
01:39:02.910 --> 01:39:06.519
Jeezy: Grunborg, who is 88 years old.

1268
01:39:07.280 --> 01:39:18.949
Jeezy: He is a retired Army Colonel that finally, this past weekend, got the chance to cross the stage for his college graduation ceremony more than 60 years.

1269
01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:29.139
Jeezy: after earning his degrees. He received his bachelor's in 1960 and his master's in 1966 in civil engineering from Georgia Tech.

1270
01:39:29.390 --> 01:39:34.769
Jeezy: But he couldn't walk across the stage to attend either of those ceremonies because of his military service.

1271
01:39:34.920 --> 01:39:41.249
Jeezy: So this past weekend, the university, Georgia Tech, actually acknowledged him.

1272
01:39:41.380 --> 01:39:49.049
Jeezy: And was able to have him walk across the stage this past weekend, and that was a remarkable sight.

1273
01:39:49.090 --> 01:40:08.169
Jeezy: To see. He spent 20 years as a U.S. Army, Corps of Engineering, and also served in the 82nd Airborne Division. The Rangers and the Pathfinders, was also where he served. So, just had a, an immense career in the military.

1274
01:40:08.540 --> 01:40:23.080
Jeezy: But was able to have that moment with his family, this past weekend, and so many more. It's not just him, there's so many more that had these moments. So, I just want to say congratulations to this class of 2026. Go forward.

1275
01:40:23.200 --> 01:40:26.869
Jeezy: And prosper, and, and just be great.

1276
01:40:27.060 --> 01:40:44.939
Jeezy: just be great. You have done a tremendous thing, and go, and let that contribution be something that hopefully, in the chaotic society that we live in, it can somehow benefit us to better somebody, whether it's 1, whether it's 10, or whether it's 100.

1277
01:40:45.120 --> 01:40:51.549
Jeezy: go forth and do… go forth and do the work, and you've done a great thing, so congratulations. So, that's my spotlight.

1278
01:40:51.840 --> 01:40:53.470
Jeezy: For the week. So…

1279
01:40:53.470 --> 01:40:54.540
Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, yeah.

1280
01:40:54.700 --> 01:41:02.429
Jeezy: With that being said, we've reached the conclusion of our episode, and if you've listened and made it to this far, we thank you for.

1281
01:41:02.430 --> 01:41:03.110
Chairman of Chaos: You better, man.

1282
01:41:03.110 --> 01:41:15.750
Jeezy: us and lending us your ear for the amount of time and the duration of this episode. Again, to our mothers and our mother figures, we hope that you have an enjoyable Mother's Day. If you didn't.

1283
01:41:16.220 --> 01:41:25.660
Jeezy: let the boys of the pod know. We might, we might, we might, be able to try to hook you up next Mother's Day to make sure you have a better Mother's Day, but certainly, it, the contribution of a mother.

1284
01:41:26.160 --> 01:41:35.859
Jeezy: cannot be imitated, nor can it be duplicated, and we appreciate you, for what you have done. And if you have not done anything.

1285
01:41:36.340 --> 01:41:37.590
Jeezy: There's still time.

1286
01:41:38.280 --> 01:41:38.710
Manny: do better.

1287
01:41:38.710 --> 01:41:48.260
Jeezy: When you know… bruh, if you knew better, you knew better. And if you don't know better… I will.

1288
01:41:50.420 --> 01:41:51.879
Jeezy: Never put the game on pawn for Pat.

1289
01:41:51.880 --> 01:41:52.840
Manny: I don't.

1290
01:41:52.840 --> 01:41:53.649
Chairman of Chaos: Pass it on.

1291
01:41:54.570 --> 01:41:55.860
Chairman of Chaos: My brothers.

1292
01:41:55.900 --> 01:41:58.960
Jeezy: Anything, all hearts and minds clear. Brother, y'all good.

1293
01:41:59.080 --> 01:42:00.690
Manny: I'm good over here.

1294
01:42:00.690 --> 01:42:01.480
Chairman of Chaos: I'm good, brother.

1295
01:42:01.510 --> 01:42:03.559
Jeezy: Alright, well, to our listeners.

1296
01:42:04.700 --> 01:42:06.619
Chairman of Chaos: Hold on, I do have something real quick.

1297
01:42:06.620 --> 01:42:07.149
Jeezy: Go ahead, brother.

1298
01:42:07.150 --> 01:42:07.790
Chairman of Chaos: level.

1299
01:42:07.790 --> 01:42:08.600
Jeezy: Yes, sir.

1300
01:42:09.340 --> 01:42:11.850
Chairman of Chaos: Listen, I know we, got a…

1301
01:42:12.050 --> 01:42:18.369
Chairman of Chaos: Got an uproar last week. We should be in an uproar, and there's continued to be more uproar about what happened with the Voting Rights Act.

1302
01:42:18.370 --> 01:42:18.830
Jeezy: Yes, sir.

1303
01:42:18.830 --> 01:42:25.279
Chairman of Chaos: And the redistricting of… these different areas. Get your butts up and vote.

1304
01:42:25.920 --> 01:42:27.180
Chairman of Chaos: Get out and vote.

1305
01:42:27.960 --> 01:42:29.120
Chairman of Chaos: Get out and vote.

1306
01:42:29.360 --> 01:42:30.300
Jeezy: Let him steal your voice.

1307
01:42:31.890 --> 01:42:34.779
Chairman of Chaos: Get out and vote. Simple as that. That's all I have to say.

1308
01:42:34.780 --> 01:42:36.380
Jeezy: Amen, brother. Amen.

1309
01:42:36.630 --> 01:42:41.380
Jeezy: So, to our listeners, When this episode finds you, if don't nobody love you.

1310
01:42:41.720 --> 01:42:43.329
Jeezy: There's another boys here at the pod.

1311
01:42:43.650 --> 01:42:44.839
Manny: We love y'all.

1312
01:42:44.840 --> 01:42:49.549
Jeezy: We're holding your hand real, real, real, real, real tight when we say this. We love you, and we mean it.

1313
01:42:49.750 --> 01:42:52.349
Jeezy: Take care, world, and we'll see you at the next episode.

1314
01:42:52.950 --> 01:42:53.780
Jeezy: Peace.

1315
01:42:53.780 --> 01:42:54.210
Chairman of Chaos: B.

1316
01:42:54.210 --> 01:42:54.830
Manny: Please.