The System Is Working - Just Not for You

The Chairman of Chaos and Manny held it down this week, and this one covers alot.

RECONCILIATION 2.0 | The Senate passed a $70 billion ICE and Border Patrol funding bill at 4:47 AM after an 18-hour Voterama. 52-47. Lisa Murkowski voted no. Democrats got nothing they asked for: no judicial warrant requirements before ICE can enter homes, no mandatory body cameras, and no SAVE Act block. The $1.8B anti-weaponization fund got stripped. ICE is now funded through January 2029, the largest ICE recruitment appropriation in the agency's history. And it still has to clear the House.

TODD BLANCHE FOR AG | Trump's personal criminal defense attorney, the man who represented him through 34 felony charges, is now the nominee for Attorney General. Tom Tillis is on the Judiciary Committee and has zero equivocation. Pam Bondi said in her own hearing that she let Blanche handle everything. Dead cases are about to come back to life.

BILL PULTE, ACTING DNI | No intelligence experience. No military background. No security clearance history. The FHFA Director and social media personality is your next Director of National Intelligence. John Thune, the Republican Majority Leader, has already publicly said that the DNI needs professionals. Manny and Chuck prayed on it. Literally.

CHAIRMAN'S MOMENT OF CHAOS | Jared Kushner and Ivanka's $1.4 billion euro eco-resort on Albania's only undeveloped island has put hundreds of thousands in the streets on consecutive days. They're calling it the Flamingo Revolution. It makes the No Kings protests look like a field trip.

SPOTLIGHTS | Chuck breaks down the SpaceX IPO $1.75 trillion valuation, $2.6 billion loss in 2025, Elon retains 85% voting control, and the regulatory guardrails have been rolled back. Manny covers the New World screwworm, a flesh-eating parasite not seen in the U.S. since 1966, that just crossed the Texas border. DOGE cut the monitoring program. Canada already blocked Texas livestock imports.

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Chairman of Chaos: Hello, world. This is not Jeezy.

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Chairman of Chaos: your chairman of Kenya. Really? Coming to you with Partner Politics, episode 23.

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Chairman of Chaos: In my… no, he's not in the corner, he's on my side.

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Chairman of Chaos: We got my good guy, Manny. Manny, how you feeling today, my brother?

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Manny: And I'm doing great, I'm doing great. I mean, I'd have felt a little better if the Canes would have figured out a way to pull it out in double overtime.

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Chairman of Chaos: Listen.

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Chairman of Chaos: And normally, we would probably pause that, pull it out, but it's June, shout out to Pride.

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Chairman of Chaos: So there'll be no pausing.

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Chairman of Chaos: Let it hang.

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Chairman of Chaos: Oh… As far as the Canes.

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Chairman of Chaos: I have documented evidence of this. At 10.02 in our group chat, I put, the Canes about to make the greatest comeback in Stanley Cup history.

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Chairman of Chaos: And they almost made me look like the most prophetic man walking this earth. No Joel Osten.

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Manny: Hey.

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Chairman of Chaos: And…

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Manny: It was so close… I was just like, what is happening?

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Chairman of Chaos: 3 goals in 39 seconds was insane.

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Chairman of Chaos: Insane. But that goal to lose in overtime was the most improbable… Craziest…

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Manny: But you know, in overtime in an NHL game, it's… it's gonna be… if it doesn't happen, I think all your pretty overtime goals happen in that first 5 minutes of overtime. The little… a little bit of energy, like, yeah, let's try to end this, so if it doesn't happen in that first 5 minutes.

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Chairman of Chaos: Something quirky's gonna happen.

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Manny: ugly goal, random breakaway, somebody's stick breaks, and then they're off to the races on a two-on-one. It's gonna be one of those situations, so…

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Chairman of Chaos: But to hit it… to do a slap shot, It hits off the backboard.

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Chairman of Chaos: Ricochets off the player, and then off the back of the pad. He had no chicken.

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Manny: None.

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Manny: And…

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Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, no check.

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Manny: Boosie came in for the Canes and played lights out in gameplay.

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Chairman of Chaos: Insane. Insane. I hadn't played in 2 months?

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Manny: Right. And I… what I think…

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Chairman of Chaos: That was crazy.

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Manny: What I think it was in that is, you know, they did the goalie change at the start of the third.

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Manny: And I think when he stopped that penalty shot.

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Chairman of Chaos: that…

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Manny: That, that guy…

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Chairman of Chaos: They got them back in there.

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Manny: It's like, we got.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yes.

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Manny: If he's gonna be out here going all out, we can.

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Chairman of Chaos: They gave…

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Manny: the same.

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Chairman of Chaos: I'm… I'm… I will say that got them excited. The first goal was like, okay, it's about time.

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Chairman of Chaos: When they got that second goal, they was like, oh, oh, and then when the third one, they was like, okay.

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Chairman of Chaos: And then.

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Manny: do this.

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Chairman of Chaos: We… yeah, it was… it was crazy. But this is not a sports podcast, although I could turn it into one. This is a political podcast, and as we said, this is episode 23. Shout out to Michael Jordan. No LeBron James. LeBron James.

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Chairman of Chaos: Oh…

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Chairman of Chaos: Speaking of… with that, we do have the NBA Finals, too, that has been a pretty good barn burner. Game 3 coming on tomorrow… well, excuse me, on Monday.

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Chairman of Chaos: Night, and… There's some political controversy there.

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Manny: Yeah.

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Manny: It never stops, man.

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Chairman of Chaos: It never…

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Manny: Watch sports.

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Chairman of Chaos: What happened to…

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Chairman of Chaos: Keep politics out of sports, and sports out of politics. Just stick to sports. That's what they had said.

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Manny: They… big thing, dribbled a basketball.

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Chairman of Chaos: Dribble, just shut up and dribble.

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Chairman of Chaos: But…

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Manny: Hmm.

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Chairman of Chaos: Donald Trump will be, visiting Game 3, according to reports. Yeah.

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Chairman of Chaos: they were… the word is that James Dolan had invited him. And here's my… my thing there.

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Chairman of Chaos: To me, it shows a high disregard… for… The locker room for… the fans…

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Chairman of Chaos: As Jane… well, I'll put, like, let me say this.

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Chairman of Chaos: James Dolan doesn't care. He's never cared. So we… let's be clear there.

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Manny: He's never good.

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Chairman of Chaos: But…

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Chairman of Chaos: it would be one thing if Donald Trump said, hey, I want to pull up, I want to come to the game, and as President of the United States, you're not gonna tell him no.

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Manny: Right.

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Chairman of Chaos: So I… I… But to send an open invitation, hey, come to the game.

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Manny: I mean, here's from… I'm gonna take a step back and look at this holistically. First, I'm gonna look from Trump's side.

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Manny: If I'm president of the United States, oh, just believe.

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Chairman of Chaos: Oh, for sure.

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Manny: for…

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Chairman of Chaos: I'm good.

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Manny: to the Super Bowl, I'm going.

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Chairman of Chaos: This is not on Trump. This is not a knock on Trump at all, because I would be the same way. I'm pulling up on everything. Everything.

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Manny: Right. But, like… Here's what I don't know.

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Manny: Again, if I owned a team, I would probably send an invite to the president every year.

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Manny: if I… even if I'm in the NBA, I'm probably gonna send the invite. This is probably the first time… I think this might be the first time that we're hearing… hearing about somebody going. Again, out of all the considerations of it.

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Manny: Because I just think about, to your point, I just think about how much it's going to Inconvenience fan.

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Chairman of Chaos: Oh. They've already sent out a memo. Be there at a minimum of 2 hours early. They've already sent that out.

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Manny: between… And that's… and that is probably super generous.

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Chairman of Chaos: And don't tell me to get.

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Manny: security, everything that's gonna be shut down. If you… if you're not making your way to… again, you guys listening in the day of the game, but if you're not making it your way over to the game right now.

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Chairman of Chaos: Listen.

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Manny: Right, you might as well throw.

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Chairman of Chaos: If you…

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Manny: up on tick pics.

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Chairman of Chaos: Have you seen the cheapest ticket?

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Chairman of Chaos: To that game.

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Manny: It was, like, I think, at last I checked, it was, like, $6,000, $7,000.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yes.

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Chairman of Chaos: Like, at last I saw, it was, like, $7,400.

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Chairman of Chaos: At $7,400, don't tell me to get here 2 hours early, bruh.

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Manny: Brock. I need to be ushered to my seat.

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Chairman of Chaos: The floor seats are 100 grand.

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Manny: Absolutely not.

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Chairman of Chaos: Lord sees. Now, I'm not gonna be a hypocrite.

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Chairman of Chaos: If I had it like this…

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Manny: If I had it like that.

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Chairman of Chaos: I'll be there.

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Manny: in the building.

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Chairman of Chaos: I would be there.

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Manny: I know who's gonna be there, Spike Lee.

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Chairman of Chaos: 12.

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Manny: spiky.

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Chairman of Chaos: He's gonna be there with his season tickets. That's not… like, that's a separate allocation.

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Manny: Fair.

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Chairman of Chaos: From just the person who wants to purchase a ticket and pull up.

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Chairman of Chaos: But still…

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Manny: That's wild.

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Chairman of Chaos: That's wild.

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Manny: That's wild.

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Chairman of Chaos: But this is, again, this is not a sports podcast.

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Chairman of Chaos: But there's some politics in that.

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Chairman of Chaos: But yeah, this is episode 23. Shout out to our good brother Jeezy, who was not able to join us on today. Sending him love, and…

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Chairman of Chaos: Support, you know, as we always say.

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Chairman of Chaos: not only active, but present. Present. And so…

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Chairman of Chaos: Fatherhood and family, duties call. So, with that, show must go on, man.

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Manny: And we got a finalized name. You know, UNGs were the NWO, what are we?

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Chairman of Chaos: Oh, man, well…

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Manny: Whatever.

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Chairman of Chaos: So many directions.

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Manny: There's so many different turns that could take.

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Chairman of Chaos: Let's, let's go…

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Chairman of Chaos: Hoting… In delirium.

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Manny: You know, and while we figure this out, I'm gonna turn this on our listeners. You guys are listening to the podcast, you guys have heard me and Chuck. What do y'all want to call this when it's just me and Chuck?

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Chairman of Chaos: Nerdcast, nerd out.

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Chairman of Chaos: Because I have a topic right now that we could destroy the foundation of this podcast, and not in destroy as far as ruin the podcast, but go completely left.

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Manny: Are we going to completely…

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Chairman of Chaos: Four.

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Manny: For our listeners.

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Manny: We have been trying to start recording this podcast today, I would say, at this point, for at least.

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Chairman of Chaos: 45 minutes.

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Manny: 45 minutes.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yes.

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Manny: Keep getting distracted.

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Manny: topics. Other types…

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Chairman of Chaos: Other topics, other things that have nothing to do with politics.

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Manny: None whatsoever.

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Chairman of Chaos: At all. But we're not gonna, we're not gonna.

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Manny: Nuh-

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Chairman of Chaos: Cause y'all to suffer.

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Chairman of Chaos: Not already leaked.

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Manny: That'll be another podcast for another day.

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Manny: But… but… For our first topic today, You know, you're,

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Manny: Your cowards of Congress decided to finally do something.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, I get it.

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Manny: I mean…

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Chairman of Chaos: I guess.

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Manny: I guess we'll… I guess we'll hop into how effective it is, but,

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Manny: they… there was… late at night, there was a reconciliation bill, about $70 billion. So, the bill was put to the… to really handle funding for,

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Manny: For DHS. So, the Senate passed Reconciliation 2.0 about 4.47 Friday morning, at a 52 to 47 voting lines during an 18-hour Voterama.

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Manny: Lisa Martowski, which should not be a shock to anybody at this point, voted no on it. The bill funds ICE and Border Patrol through January 2029, and that date rings a bell for me. I can't exactly put.

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Chairman of Chaos: What is going on?

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Manny: In jail.

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Chairman of Chaos: January 2029.

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Manny: So, I… yeah. I don't know. I don't know.

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Chairman of Chaos: When you figure it out, let us know. Let us know.

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Manny: Let us know.

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Manny: But… There's a lot of things in it.

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Manny: But there's also a lot of things that are not in it, and we'll get to that in a little bit. And Chuck, my first question for you is, what do you think of it?

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Chairman of Chaos: First and foremost, I am… Shocked.

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Chairman of Chaos: that… A lot of those individuals…

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Chairman of Chaos: We're able to sustain an 18-hour.

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Manny: Bruh.

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Chairman of Chaos: session, like… Right.

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Chairman of Chaos: I can tell you, me personally?

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Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, send my vote in via proxy or something, because…

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Manny: Can I send an email? Is there a poll in the chat I can just vote through?

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Chairman of Chaos: anything. Tell me when y'all gonna schedule a vote. Call me, I'll wake up.

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Chairman of Chaos: Because I… First off, those chairs in the chamber does not look like they could be very comfortable.

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Manny: Chuck, I've been… so, I've had the opportunity in my time in politics to go directly onto the floor, in both chambers of commerce, and not… sorry, chambers of Congress.

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Manny: And the cool thing I would say about them is, like, if… when you open the desk, like, they opened, like, old school desks. They actually… people scratch their names into them, so it's like.

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Manny: So you remember how we used to get those.

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Chairman of Chaos: Manny was here. Yep.

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Manny: get those textbooks, like, oh man, such and such had this book four years ago, and now I'm using the same book. So they have that going on.

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Manny: But then they have those chairs that are… that are not comfortable.

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Chairman of Chaos: I can only imagine.

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Manny: And I'm a big guy.

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Manny: I question its, structural integrity of some of these, these chairs after an 18-hour session.

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Chairman of Chaos: Man.

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Manny: Again, I just… I just have questions.

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Chairman of Chaos: I have a lot of questions. But from a, from a standpoint of… Effectiveness…

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Chairman of Chaos: I-I'm really… I'm really… at an impasse, honestly. Like… They… they did it.

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Chairman of Chaos: Was it the most, was it the most…

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Chairman of Chaos: I wasn't gonna say beneficial, but not beneficial. Was it the most efficient and efficient…

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Chairman of Chaos: way of going about doing it? No.

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Chairman of Chaos: Not at all.

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Chairman of Chaos: As we continue to press forward, we see that…

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Chairman of Chaos: the aspect of Doge and cutting the waste of federal spending. Right.

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Chairman of Chaos: was a farce.

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Manny: And I think we knew that from the jump.

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Chairman of Chaos: And with the devil outside of them. Bruh.

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Manny: I'm gonna use… hootin', hollering. I think that's what Lance.

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Chairman of Chaos: Poovin' and holler.

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Manny: Hootin' and hollering. Y'all did all that hooting, hollering, and carrying on, and y'all didn't get anything.

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Manny: Judicial… Nothing. Judicial warrant requirements before ICE can forcibly enter homes? Not in there. Mandatory body cameras worn by ICE and Border Patrol agents? Not in there. Nope. Ban on mass federal agents? Nope.

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Chairman of Chaos: There's new.

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Manny: at sensitive locations, so we're talking schools, hospitals, churches… nope.

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Manny: the SAVE Act kinda blocked, so… for now.

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Chairman of Chaos: So…

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Manny: Yeah.

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Chairman of Chaos: Like, it… yeah, yeah.

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Manny: What did y'all get? Y'all got nothing from.

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Chairman of Chaos: Nothing. They got punk. That's what they got. They got punk. Again.

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Manny: I think the strategic part of it goes back to that January 29th.

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Manny: Because Republicans basically said, what's not going to happen is we're not going to have this fight again.

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Manny: it's in office.

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Chairman of Chaos: And you know, although we did not directly say this, when they came to the…

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Chairman of Chaos: The compromise previously to be able to fund, and then we'll come back and bring this back up.

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Chairman of Chaos: We kind of alluded to this. We didn't say it directly, but we kinda alluded to… Y-yo…

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Chairman of Chaos: Y'all just did this to kick the can down the road, and you're not gonna get anything.

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Manny: And we called it. We called, we knew, we knew the play. We've seen this.

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Manny: Now, people will argue, here's the counterpoint, here's the counterpoint. What did Democrats… Democrats got things adjacent to that. They got the ballroom funding stripped out of it. I mean, yes, technically, but that was Republicans putting a stop to it.

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Chairman of Chaos: Stripped out of it does not kill it.

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Manny: also facts.

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Manny: also facts.

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Manny: The, the 1.7… sorry, we'll just call it… we'll round it. $1.8 billion, compensation fund that, again.

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Manny: We've said it every week, and we'll continue saying.

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Manny: that I… Have been oppressed by the government.

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Manny: since.

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Chairman of Chaos: Just… sin.

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Manny: Barack?

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Manny: Hussein Obama.

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Chairman of Chaos: Hussein.

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Chairman of Chaos: Who's the same.

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Manny: I've been oppressed, so as soon as that fund comes live, I'm applying, because…

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Manny: we've been oppressed. But that's gone, and I wouldn't even say it's completely gone, it's probably partially gone, but again, that's Republicans pulling the plug on it. If not, the legal, process was getting ready to yank that out.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yep, yep.

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Manny: So…

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Chairman of Chaos: And to speak to that real quick, Trump didn't care.

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Manny: At all.

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Chairman of Chaos: He never cared.

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Manny: At all. He got.

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Chairman of Chaos: Hey, Winn When they said, oh, you gotta kill this?

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Chairman of Chaos: Well, do I still get my… my… my prize at the Cracker Jack box?

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Manny: Right.

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Manny: Yes, sir.

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Chairman of Chaos: I'm not gonna look at mine.

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Manny: stuff, right?

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Chairman of Chaos: Although, although, that's not completely firm.

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Manny: Not at all.

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Chairman of Chaos: however… however… The legal wranglings that it has to go through before they even approach it.

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Chairman of Chaos: He's fine with that right now.

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Manny: Yeah. Just play the long game.

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Manny: He's like, how many things can I blow up in between now and then to get y'all redirected on something else?

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Chairman of Chaos: Exactly.

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Manny: Before we hit this.

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Chairman of Chaos: This whole second term… a whole second term of presidency has been that. It's been the bait and switch. It's been the…

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Chairman of Chaos: Aha, look over here!

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Manny: Yep.

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Chairman of Chaos: I'm making…

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Manny: I'm making my thumb disappear, like…

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Chairman of Chaos: I put a quarter… pulled a quarter from behind your ear.

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Manny: Cheese.

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Chairman of Chaos: the quarter in my hand.

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Manny: And it's… again, all of this to get largely nothing for the Democrats, and I think the question… now, it still has to get through the House.

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Manny: Yes.

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Manny: I don't know, because I think they're kind of in a weird situation as well, and what they will do with this, because again.

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Manny: One of the biggest differences in the House and the Senate is that everyone has to run every two years.

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Manny: only a third of the Senate has to answer to a voting public right now.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yep.

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Manny: Everybody has to… has to answer in the house.

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Manny: he's gotta be… it's him and Marco Rubio have to probably be the top two most stressed people in DC.

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Manny: Because they always trying to wrangle something.

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Chairman of Chaos: I almost said something, but I remember what month it was.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, Mike Johnson, the house…

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Chairman of Chaos: the house is really the most… you know what the house reminds me of? It reminds me of a TV show on Bravo.

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Manny: Which one?

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Chairman of Chaos: Let's pick one.

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Chairman of Chaos: Pick one.

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Manny: Throw all the names in a hat.

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Chairman of Chaos: Put him in a hat, pull out the name, and that's what it…

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Chairman of Chaos: It's a reality TV show in the house.

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Chairman of Chaos: It's… It's a cluster in the house. You don't know what you're gonna get.

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Manny: You don't.

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Chairman of Chaos: He really knows, so… Well, and it keeps.

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Manny: It's getting more and more unstable as these primaries start shaking out, more and more unstable. So you don't know. So this could look vastly different after it goes through the House.

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Manny: To break down, kind of, what's in this bill, one of the things that really stood out to me is that there is $7.5 billion

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Manny: It is the single largest ICE recruitment appropriation in

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Manny: And… from my understanding, the goal is to really try to expand that enforcement capacity before the midterms.

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Manny: It's problematic. How are they getting trained?

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Chairman of Chaos: But, not just that.

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Chairman of Chaos: Can anybody tell me, has anybody received their bonus?

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Manny: Oh, them sign-on bonuses?

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Chairman of Chaos: Because if you were recruiting me, and I've seen all the reports.

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Chairman of Chaos: That came out that said, these folks have not received not the first penny.

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Chairman of Chaos: And they don't even make pennies anymore.

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Manny: Right.

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Chairman of Chaos: They, they have not received the first…

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Chairman of Chaos: R.P. Abe Lincoln on the copper top, but anyway.

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Chairman of Chaos: They have not received any of the loan cancellation

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Chairman of Chaos: That they offered in the recruitment bonus package.

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Chairman of Chaos: Are you gonna allocate some of this money to pay these folks their bonuses? Like…

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Chairman of Chaos: What… what is this recruitment?

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Chairman of Chaos: budget for. I mean, I know what you told us, but… You know what?

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Manny: Somebody's age.

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Chairman of Chaos: I'm giving… I'm giving… I'm giving people too many cred… too much credit, because, you know, there's gonna be folks that still run their happy tail over there.

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Manny: Yep.

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Chairman of Chaos: And sign up, and believe the lie, and believe…

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Chairman of Chaos: You know, the pomp and circumstance and the smoke put before them.

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Chairman of Chaos: And… Jump on board, unfortunately.

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Manny: And I think it… I think it's rough, and…

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Manny: I think if you look at the state of how our government sits at this standpoint.

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Manny: it… more things are getting ready to come through, because, again, how they did this is… is not the purpose of reconciliation. Reconciliation is designed for tax and spending adjustments.

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Manny: Not to, like, set up permanent infrastructure or semi-permanent infrastructure that doesn't have to go through a regular budget process.

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Manny: And I think because things are so divided at this point.

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Manny: All you can hope for, and this is either party, let's say it flips.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yes.

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Manny: you're… you're gonna be fighting in the Senate just to get to 51.

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Chairman of Chaos: And you know, Manny, this is one of my…

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Chairman of Chaos: biggest gripes with how they're handling things. Now, during this… not just with this, but… in the past.

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Chairman of Chaos: I'll give the… shoot, this has been 10 years, maybe. Well, no, not 10… that's too many.

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Chairman of Chaos: I'll give them, in the past.

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Chairman of Chaos: 6, 7… I hate it, I did that. In the past 6 years.

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Chairman of Chaos: trying to circumvent a lot of the structural things that have been set up in Congress, where things have to go through committee, and go through different points of conversation and discussion, so that we… when…

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Chairman of Chaos: You hammer out a resolution, it's had so many touchpoints, That you at least feel

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Chairman of Chaos: Like, it's gone through the necessary process.

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Manny: Yep.

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Chairman of Chaos: Nowadays, You're bypassing committee, you're bypassing the necessary aspects of debate, the necessary aspects of review.

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Chairman of Chaos: These are documents that are hundreds of pages.

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Manny: Yeah.

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Chairman of Chaos: First and foremost, if you don't know.

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Chairman of Chaos: These members of Congress are not reading through these.

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Chairman of Chaos: Absolutely. Generally. Generally. Every once in a while, in the wild blue yonder, somebody will say that they read through hundreds of pages.

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Manny: Grandpa's in these situations are anomalies, not the…

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Chairman of Chaos: Very much so, very much so.

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Manny: They're the exception to the rule, they're not the.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yes.

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Chairman of Chaos: Generally, there's a staffer who has gone through these.

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Chairman of Chaos: But when you're bypassing committee and you're jumping right to the floor for a vote, you're putting these staffers up against the clock to be able to thoroughly go through these documents and provide

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Chairman of Chaos: The elected official with the necessary information that they need to be able to, one, argue for or against

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Chairman of Chaos: and then make a sound decision. A lot of this is going off of.

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Chairman of Chaos: Somebody wants me to do this, so I'll do it, on their behalf.

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Chairman of Chaos: There's no sound decision being made, and that's my biggest problem with a lot of things that is getting…

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Chairman of Chaos: Push through and rush through is… Where… where's the… the…

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Chairman of Chaos: checks and balances, what have I been arguing? And committee is a part of that checks and balances process in Congress.

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Manny: Duh.

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Manny: And I think we're getting, specifically with this.

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Manny: I think they're running into a situation. So, what happens next with this bill is this bill's going to go from the Senate to the House.

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Manny: And I think the chance that it passes as is, is low.

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Manny: The problem is.

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Manny: If they change anything, it has got to go back through the Senate, and there are already people who are advocating for, you know, hey, let's tie some defense spending, and then the big thing that's been kind of axed out of that is FISA, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

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Manny: They got… So that did not make it through, and that's…

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Chairman of Chaos: And this is, what, the second time… Yeah. This is the second time, yeah.

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Manny: And… The key part in FISA is Section 702 that allows the collection of digital communication of foreign nationals.

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Manny: Including Americans, so…

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Chairman of Chaos: I was about to say, I was about to say, it says foreign nationals…

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Manny: But…

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Chairman of Chaos: more like, you national people. Right.

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Manny: Everyone who has some type of nationality.

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Manny: And it's like, it's one of the NSA's biggest tools.

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Manny: And you think about the world we're in right now.

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Manny: with the situation with Iran, Lebanon, and Israel. You think about the situation with China and Taiwan. You think about the situation with Ukraine and Russia.

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Manny: like…

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Manny: And I am not advocating for this to pass. I want to be clear here, this is just the facts of the situation.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yes, the fact is the truth.

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Manny: entire department, agency, this is their… their main tool is about, getting security, aligning security, making sure information is available to our leaders so they can make decisions. That tool is now no longer there.

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Manny: If all you do for a living is hammer nails, and you now no longer have a hammer.

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Manny: Look, man, them work boots are only gonna take you so far trying to get those nails in.

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Manny: So to do that in the middle of all this international chaos.

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Manny: You're asking an agency to pivot in a way that you probably don't want them to pivot in the middle of a war.

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Chairman of Chaos: Well…

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Chairman of Chaos: the leadership of these agencies… anyway, we'll talk about that later. I just want to know, where's Eric Snowden?

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Manny: I think he's… Like, I feel like he left for Russia.

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Chairman of Chaos: He was in the airport for forever, then I think he did make it to Russia.

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Chairman of Chaos: And I'll just bring that up, if you don't know, he was an NSA whistleblower from many, many years ago, and the government was after him, trying to get

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Chairman of Chaos: Lock him up, saying that he… if you've heard of the term WikiLeaks…

395
00:28:37.780 --> 00:28:39.420
Chairman of Chaos: And we won't go down there.

396
00:28:39.420 --> 00:28:40.409
Manny: the secrets.

397
00:28:40.410 --> 00:28:45.979
Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, we won't go down that rabbit hole, but in this, in the FISA,

398
00:28:46.250 --> 00:28:53.539
Chairman of Chaos: As my brother said, I'm not in saying this in support of…

399
00:28:53.650 --> 00:29:11.869
Chairman of Chaos: in passing, because there are a lot of measures where there are no guardrails, there are no… again, here's that term, checks and balances, and that's… that's… that's the… the motto of this administration. No checks and balances. We want to do things…

400
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:19.019
Chairman of Chaos: Without any discretionary, follow-up, And just do what we want to do.

401
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:22.929
Chairman of Chaos: And that's not… It's not safe for us, number one.

402
00:29:22.930 --> 00:29:23.330
Manny: Brain.

403
00:29:23.330 --> 00:29:25.770
Chairman of Chaos: That's not how this was set up to operate.

404
00:29:26.150 --> 00:29:36.459
Chairman of Chaos: And… and finally, You, you… open the door for even more corruption when there is no checks and balances.

405
00:29:36.850 --> 00:29:50.750
Manny: On top of that, to give a tool that power, this powerful, as being able to collect the data and the metadata on everyone, like, I encourage everyone, pause this podcast for a very brief second.

406
00:29:51.050 --> 00:29:53.180
Manny: Go to your photos.

407
00:29:53.580 --> 00:29:58.080
Manny: And then go look at the metadata of those photos to tell where exactly.

408
00:29:58.080 --> 00:29:58.740
Chairman of Chaos: I love it.

409
00:29:58.740 --> 00:29:59.220
Manny: were.

410
00:29:59.220 --> 00:30:04.649
Chairman of Chaos: Where you took the picture, what time you took the picture, the day you took the picture, your geolocation.

411
00:30:04.650 --> 00:30:04.970
Manny: Yep.

412
00:30:04.970 --> 00:30:08.200
Chairman of Chaos: Down to the longitude and latitude.

413
00:30:08.590 --> 00:30:12.159
Manny: How much your phone was charged at the point, like…

414
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:13.189
Chairman of Chaos: All of the above.

415
00:30:13.190 --> 00:30:13.619
Manny: All of this.

416
00:30:13.620 --> 00:30:16.849
Chairman of Chaos: The megapixels, how much storage it took.

417
00:30:17.140 --> 00:30:18.090
Chairman of Chaos: All of it.

418
00:30:18.270 --> 00:30:24.449
Manny: And to give that to a government, and specifically an agency.

419
00:30:25.120 --> 00:30:33.779
Manny: That has shown its willingness to be able to pressure and go after its own citizens.

420
00:30:34.390 --> 00:30:35.090
Chairman of Chaos: Yes.

421
00:30:35.340 --> 00:30:36.220
Manny: Like, let's…

422
00:30:37.090 --> 00:30:38.200
Chairman of Chaos: And then call them…

423
00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:38.920
Manny: Right.

424
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:41.909
Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, and then… and then call them terrorists.

425
00:30:41.910 --> 00:30:42.500
Manny: Right.

426
00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:49.950
Chairman of Chaos: American citizens, and then call them anti… government.

427
00:30:49.950 --> 00:30:50.500
Manny: Yeah.

428
00:30:51.420 --> 00:30:52.710
Chairman of Chaos: American citizens.

429
00:30:53.270 --> 00:30:59.890
Manny: Forget even talking about actual people who just aren't Americans. We will do this to our own.

430
00:31:00.100 --> 00:31:00.840
Chairman of Chaos: To our own.

431
00:31:00.840 --> 00:31:05.170
Manny: Only imagine the limits that we are willing to take it to.

432
00:31:05.310 --> 00:31:07.199
Manny: for people who aren't Americans.

433
00:31:08.380 --> 00:31:16.270
Chairman of Chaos: For people who are saying things that we don't agree with, or don't want to hear, or you're critical of us.

434
00:31:18.900 --> 00:31:20.039
Chairman of Chaos: I'm just saying.

435
00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:25.529
Manny: And I think this provides a very interesting segue.

436
00:31:25.780 --> 00:31:30.180
Manny: Because, as we get ready to hop into our second topic.

437
00:31:30.850 --> 00:31:34.940
Manny: We got a new nominee for our… for America's Lawyer.

438
00:31:37.450 --> 00:31:38.690
Manny: That's right.

439
00:31:38.690 --> 00:31:41.240
Chairman of Chaos: Help us, Lord. We, we…

440
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:48.390
Manny: We told y'all this was coming, and I think… I don't think anyone at any point was… thought that there was another option that was getting ready to play out here.

441
00:31:48.390 --> 00:31:50.419
Chairman of Chaos: Oh, no. Oh, no.

442
00:31:50.650 --> 00:31:52.839
Manny: But on June 4th.

443
00:31:53.080 --> 00:32:04.709
Manny: Oh, Donald John Trump announced at a White House dinner that he was going to formally nominate acting Attorney General Todd Blanch as the permanent Attorney General.

444
00:32:04.950 --> 00:32:15.250
Manny: So, he has been the Acting Attorney General since April 2nd, when Pam Bondi was… stepped down, fired, terminated…

445
00:32:15.250 --> 00:32:17.360
Chairman of Chaos: reallocated…

446
00:32:17.360 --> 00:32:19.630
Manny: redirected, inter…

447
00:32:19.630 --> 00:32:20.600
Chairman of Chaos: Enter your verse.

448
00:32:20.600 --> 00:32:21.889
Manny: verb here.

449
00:32:21.890 --> 00:32:23.190
Chairman of Chaos: Yes.

450
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:31.760
Manny: Yeah, so, since that point. So, the nomination is going to head to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

451
00:32:31.930 --> 00:32:34.490
Manny: where I think it's going to get real interesting.

452
00:32:34.490 --> 00:32:37.859
Chairman of Chaos: Oh, it's gonna be fun. It will be fun.

453
00:32:37.860 --> 00:32:41.779
Manny: Our good friend, well, my good friend.

454
00:32:41.910 --> 00:32:43.270
Manny: Tom Tillis.

455
00:32:43.390 --> 00:32:44.140
Manny: North Carolina.

456
00:32:44.630 --> 00:32:45.630
Manny: Tom Tillis is on.

457
00:32:45.630 --> 00:32:47.199
Chairman of Chaos: Old Tommy.

458
00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:53.640
Manny: And one thing we know about Tom Tillis at this point in his career, He's got time and energy.

459
00:32:54.310 --> 00:32:56.679
Chairman of Chaos: Time, energy, and zero F's to give.

460
00:32:56.680 --> 00:32:58.439
Manny: He's all out.

461
00:32:58.440 --> 00:32:59.920
Chairman of Chaos: The bowl.

462
00:32:59.920 --> 00:33:01.220
Manny: Hold the field in which.

463
00:33:01.220 --> 00:33:02.520
Chairman of Chaos: I grow my F's.

464
00:33:02.840 --> 00:33:05.600
Manny: Alas, see how it is barren.

465
00:33:05.850 --> 00:33:06.780
Chairman of Chaos: Listen.

466
00:33:06.950 --> 00:33:16.319
Chairman of Chaos: And to bring some clarity to you all, like Manny said, he was acting AG, being that he was Deputy AG when Pam was…

467
00:33:16.470 --> 00:33:18.559
Chairman of Chaos: Into your, adjective here.

468
00:33:18.860 --> 00:33:21.630
Chairman of Chaos: Or is it an advert?

469
00:33:22.560 --> 00:33:25.820
Chairman of Chaos: Ever. It would be… whatever. Whatever you're…

470
00:33:25.820 --> 00:33:27.680
Manny: of us were English majors.

471
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:32.490
Chairman of Chaos: No, definitely not. Definitely not. However, enter it here.

472
00:33:32.630 --> 00:33:47.529
Chairman of Chaos: And whatever she did, so he was acting, but there had to… there's a certain time period where that comes to an end. You can no longer have acting, you have to have someone in an official capacity. And, of course.

473
00:33:47.650 --> 00:33:56.370
Chairman of Chaos: It was no surprise to us. If you were surprised by this, I have an island… in… Wisconsin…

474
00:33:56.480 --> 00:34:00.070
Chairman of Chaos: Nebraska, and Idaho to sell you.

475
00:34:00.860 --> 00:34:01.700
Chairman of Chaos: Just letting you know.

476
00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:02.820
Manny: Chucky.

477
00:34:02.820 --> 00:34:04.260
Chairman of Chaos: You just have a premium location.

478
00:34:04.570 --> 00:34:09.719
Manny: Here's why that was funny, because in my head, I said Wisconsin.

479
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:14.769
Manny: So to hear you respond with Wisconsin, I was like, yep.

480
00:34:16.659 --> 00:34:19.929
Manny: No one should be shocked by this. At all. No one should be shocked by this.

481
00:34:19.929 --> 00:34:24.599
Chairman of Chaos: Everything that Trump has done has been setting up

482
00:34:24.969 --> 00:34:29.149
Chairman of Chaos: And let me, let me preface this by saying, I support nepotism.

483
00:34:29.989 --> 00:34:32.669
Chairman of Chaos: Okay? Support putting your people on.

484
00:34:33.009 --> 00:34:36.729
Chairman of Chaos: What I don't support is the corrupt aspect.

485
00:34:37.099 --> 00:34:39.029
Chairman of Chaos: Of putting your people on.

486
00:34:39.299 --> 00:34:40.949
Chairman of Chaos: I'm not for corruption.

487
00:34:41.079 --> 00:34:45.219
Manny: This is the equivalent of me coaching a baseball team.

488
00:34:45.669 --> 00:34:52.419
Manny: And knowing that my child, Cannot throw a ball 10 feet, and putting them at shortstop.

489
00:34:52.420 --> 00:34:57.549
Chairman of Chaos: Your child… this is the equivalent to your child being scared of the ball.

490
00:34:58.080 --> 00:35:05.939
Chairman of Chaos: You being the coach of the baseball team, your child has no interest in playing baseball, but you still put them out there.

491
00:35:06.680 --> 00:35:07.280
Manny: Yep.

492
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:11.610
Chairman of Chaos: Well, I'm not gonna say no interest, because Todd Lynch has interest in this. However…

493
00:35:13.070 --> 00:35:16.230
Manny: Should not be. Should not be at this point.

494
00:35:16.230 --> 00:35:17.060
Chairman of Chaos: Should not be.

495
00:35:17.060 --> 00:35:25.069
Manny: One question I know you guys might have, and we haven't hopped into it, so we'll do some of that here. Who is Todd Blanch?

496
00:35:25.250 --> 00:35:29.949
Manny: Todd Blanch is Trump's former personal criminal defense attorney.

497
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:30.940
Chairman of Chaos: Yes.

498
00:35:30.940 --> 00:35:34.439
Manny: represented Donald Trump in the New York hush money case.

499
00:35:34.780 --> 00:35:46.579
Manny: And he was confirmed, I… we will not take this from him, he was confirmed as the Deputy Attorney General in a 52-46 vote back in March of 2025.

500
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:52.880
Manny: So, a couple things that he's done as Acting Attorney General,

501
00:35:53.140 --> 00:36:06.460
Manny: he basically did a whole hoorah about purging 200-plus, Department of Justice and FBI employees who worked on Trump-related investigations.

502
00:36:06.570 --> 00:36:15.220
Manny: He was also the, essentially, the architect of this $1.8 billion anti-weaponization fund that, again.

503
00:36:16.230 --> 00:36:19.390
Manny: I've been oppressed. I plan on applying for.

504
00:36:19.540 --> 00:36:20.760
Manny: But…

505
00:36:20.980 --> 00:36:31.830
Manny: he's pursued the indictments under… for Comey and the CIA Director Brennan, and… he also, strangely, tried to appoint himself…

506
00:36:32.080 --> 00:36:36.759
Manny: as the acting librarian of Congress, but that whole thing…

507
00:36:37.210 --> 00:36:39.910
Chairman of Chaos: Why would that be strange to you, brother?

508
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:43.390
Manny: It's strange that you would try to do something…

509
00:36:44.270 --> 00:36:49.330
Manny: So, I think Trump does something, we expect him to do, like, really bold things.

510
00:36:50.210 --> 00:37:04.679
Manny: his people, for the most part… now, I think we're seeing a transition in the Trump administration, and I'll hit that in a second. But they usually attempt to do something not blatantly illegal.

511
00:37:04.770 --> 00:37:10.750
Manny: They usually try to hide it. This is… this is very clear that you can't really do this.

512
00:37:11.710 --> 00:37:14.439
Chairman of Chaos: Well, they've been emboldened.

513
00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:15.460
Manny: Yeah, this is true.

514
00:37:16.030 --> 00:37:16.740
Chairman of Chaos: Like…

515
00:37:17.170 --> 00:37:18.559
Manny: This is very true.

516
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:23.729
Manny: But I think we're seeing a change in the… so, I think if you look back at a lot of administrations.

517
00:37:24.060 --> 00:37:29.420
Manny: you know… Biden, Obama, Clinton, Bush.

518
00:37:29.530 --> 00:37:38.940
Manny: Usually, around the midpoint of it, you start seeing… you see turnover. People want to go… go into the private sector, you see it. So…

519
00:37:39.180 --> 00:37:42.039
Manny: None of what we're saying is…

520
00:37:42.560 --> 00:37:47.100
Manny: off base. None of what we're seeing, people leaving the administration.

521
00:37:47.100 --> 00:37:48.169
Chairman of Chaos: No, definitely not.

522
00:37:48.170 --> 00:37:49.830
Manny: Is strange or weird.

523
00:37:50.290 --> 00:38:05.369
Manny: It's usually, though, people living… leaving on their own will of accord, not people getting fired, and not it being so loud. Usually, they're very quietly done, there's like, hey, person A's here, person B is the person right now.

524
00:38:05.660 --> 00:38:06.180
Chairman of Chaos: Yeah.

525
00:38:06.180 --> 00:38:16.549
Manny: So… and we still got some more coming. Like, Susie Wiles is going to be gone in a couple months, like… so we see this… see this happening, but I think it's this wave 2.

526
00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:19.950
Manny: That's coming in. That's real problematic.

527
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:24.470
Chairman of Chaos: Very problematic. Very…

528
00:38:24.470 --> 00:38:28.420
Manny: And I think for Blanche, he's gotta… he's gotta kill the climb.

529
00:38:29.770 --> 00:38:36.450
Manny: Because in his situation right now, he can only lose about 4 votes on the floor.

530
00:38:36.980 --> 00:38:44.909
Manny: And then in committee, he can only, like, really lose one. And we already called out till this is gonna be a problem for him.

531
00:38:45.290 --> 00:38:46.480
Chairman of Chaos: Without question.

532
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:50.910
Manny: So, even just looking at the Senate as it is.

533
00:38:51.030 --> 00:39:02.030
Manny: Tom Tillis, and he actually came out and put a quote. He said, no quivation on January 6th is in my criteria. Not one minute.

534
00:39:02.580 --> 00:39:08.480
Manny: So, he's already killed Ed Martin, and he's not seeking re-election, so he doesn't care.

535
00:39:08.790 --> 00:39:09.590
Chairman of Chaos: Yep.

536
00:39:09.590 --> 00:39:11.579
Manny: I think you got John Korn.

537
00:39:11.780 --> 00:39:18.460
Manny: who's, I… from all reports right now, is undecided, and you don't… Trump don't, you know, pissed.

538
00:39:18.460 --> 00:39:22.669
Chairman of Chaos: And you don't… you don't… not only have you… you…

539
00:39:22.980 --> 00:39:26.219
Chairman of Chaos: Stood over this man, and pooped on him.

540
00:39:26.980 --> 00:39:34.590
Chairman of Chaos: And then tried to come back, you know, we… we… we appreciate what he did, but you… you should've just stayed out of it.

541
00:39:34.970 --> 00:39:35.560
Manny: Yeah.

542
00:39:35.780 --> 00:39:38.840
Chairman of Chaos: You should've just stayed out of it and not endorsed anybody.

543
00:39:39.560 --> 00:39:45.520
Manny: And if anyone's questioning where John Corrin is right now, his quote on this right now is.

544
00:39:45.630 --> 00:39:49.860
Manny: Being Attorney General is probably one of the hardest jobs in the Cabinet.

545
00:39:50.050 --> 00:39:57.999
Manny: Because you're working for the president, but you're also supposed to be able to tell the president no.

546
00:39:58.820 --> 00:40:02.449
Chairman of Chaos: And that's not… we have not seen anything telling us

547
00:40:02.730 --> 00:40:05.840
Chairman of Chaos: that Blanche is gonna be able to say no.

548
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:13.179
Chairman of Chaos: Like, we've told you how entangled and entrenched they are in each other's lives.

549
00:40:14.230 --> 00:40:22.970
Chairman of Chaos: Personal attorney, His attorney, when he has got his 34 felonies, with the… .

550
00:40:23.690 --> 00:40:26.309
Chairman of Chaos: IRS, in leaking of his information.

551
00:40:26.670 --> 00:40:33.790
Chairman of Chaos: he… I'm… I'm willing to bet that he was the architect and brainchild of the lawsuit.

552
00:40:34.150 --> 00:40:49.780
Chairman of Chaos: And not only of the lawsuit, but the, as Manny said, the resolution and compromise that they came up with for the lawsuit, and the fund, and the IRS deal.

553
00:40:50.560 --> 00:40:56.560
Chairman of Chaos: Nothing shows us that he's… he's… Be capable of saying no.

554
00:40:57.240 --> 00:41:00.369
Manny: And I think it's… I think it's a very interesting play here.

555
00:41:00.630 --> 00:41:05.340
Manny: Because… It could die in judiciary.

556
00:41:05.930 --> 00:41:11.650
Manny: But, if… if Tillis holds, and Corn breaks, and the committee is deadlocked.

557
00:41:12.170 --> 00:41:21.070
Manny: Trump… I think there is a very good chance that Trump just leaves him Act… as acting indefinitely.

558
00:41:22.130 --> 00:41:25.180
Manny: There's no real thing… you can't really force them, you can't force him to a.

559
00:41:25.180 --> 00:41:25.720
Chairman of Chaos: Point somewhere.

560
00:41:25.720 --> 00:41:30.190
Manny: as Attorney General, but I think there's also…

561
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:34.430
Manny: I think Trump doesn't like to publicly look like he's taken an L.

562
00:41:34.900 --> 00:41:48.359
Manny: So, I think if, you know, things start swirling around that, like, hey, he's gonna… he's gonna catch an L here, I… we've seen him do it with other people. Like, you're not gonna get through confirmation, I'm not taking this L publicly.

563
00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:57.309
Manny: Either you are going to remove yourself, or I'm going to remove you. And me removing you is still going to look like you're… you are removing yourself.

564
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:01.419
Chairman of Chaos: And that's what a lot of these,

565
00:42:01.940 --> 00:42:20.510
Chairman of Chaos: firings have been. Oh, they're going on to pursue some other things that they really love to do. No, I really wanted to do this, that's why I came on board, to… to do this role. Oh, now she wants to step away to be with her husband because…

566
00:42:20.650 --> 00:42:23.640
Chairman of Chaos: You know, he… he has cancer.

567
00:42:24.700 --> 00:42:26.919
Chairman of Chaos: No, we had that worked out.

568
00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:27.510
Manny: Yeah.

569
00:42:27.680 --> 00:42:32.840
Chairman of Chaos: You know? So, yeah, but you're right, he does not want to be seen as…

570
00:42:33.080 --> 00:42:36.349
Chairman of Chaos: taking an ill. He does not want to be seen as…

571
00:42:36.740 --> 00:42:40.989
Chairman of Chaos: A non-negotiator, being able to make the best deals.

572
00:42:41.570 --> 00:42:43.860
Chairman of Chaos: Yep. So, it's gonna be interesting.

573
00:42:44.790 --> 00:42:50.580
Manny: It's just… it's… the question… the questioning's gonna be interesting.

574
00:42:50.780 --> 00:42:53.260
Manny: Because… I think…

575
00:42:53.380 --> 00:42:59.190
Manny: he's going to be asked your, or at least, questions I would ask if I'm on the committee.

576
00:43:00.580 --> 00:43:03.290
Manny: If you were Trump's defense attorney.

577
00:43:05.460 --> 00:43:08.340
Manny: How are you going to handle a situation

578
00:43:08.750 --> 00:43:17.870
Manny: Where there's going to be… it's not if, it's a when question when the case is brought up against the president. And you have to prosecute that.

579
00:43:18.080 --> 00:43:19.819
Manny: How are you going to reconcile that?

580
00:43:19.930 --> 00:43:24.290
Manny: Like, the closest thing that we've seen to something like this…

581
00:43:24.510 --> 00:43:39.019
Manny: Was RFK acting as JFK's Attorney General. Like, that's the closest we've kind of seen to this. Yeah. But there's so many questions about the relationship that I think are getting ready to come out.

582
00:43:39.520 --> 00:43:42.329
Manny: And I think what will be interesting

583
00:43:42.570 --> 00:43:50.019
Manny: is, if I'm Trump, and I'm Blanche, I'm getting real nervous about the questions I'm getting ready to get asked publicly.

584
00:43:50.180 --> 00:43:52.199
Manny: That I now have to answer.

585
00:43:52.200 --> 00:43:54.180
Chairman of Chaos: You have to answer under oath, yes.

586
00:43:54.180 --> 00:43:54.810
Manny: Yeah.

587
00:43:56.330 --> 00:44:02.709
Manny: How many dead situations are going to be given new life because new questions are asked?

588
00:44:02.710 --> 00:44:03.640
Chairman of Chaos: I know one.

589
00:44:03.640 --> 00:44:04.300
Manny: God.

590
00:44:04.300 --> 00:44:05.660
Chairman of Chaos: I know one.

591
00:44:05.660 --> 00:44:06.290
Manny: Bruh.

592
00:44:06.530 --> 00:44:07.890
Chairman of Chaos: And pass the question.

593
00:44:07.890 --> 00:44:11.089
Manny: Yeah, Pam Bondi set him up for the okey-doke.

594
00:44:13.210 --> 00:44:19.349
Manny: I let… when she came out in her hearing and said, I let him handle all of this.

595
00:44:19.350 --> 00:44:28.530
Chairman of Chaos: Oh, yes. Game. Oh, yes. It, it, it… as we say, we… those coals being raked up unto him.

596
00:44:29.520 --> 00:44:30.950
Manny: It's gonna be hot.

597
00:44:30.950 --> 00:44:32.890
Chairman of Chaos: It's gonna be hot.

598
00:44:32.890 --> 00:44:33.210
Manny: God.

599
00:44:33.930 --> 00:44:42.219
Chairman of Chaos: Now, the question is, if it fails, and if it stalls, will the Republicans push

600
00:44:42.500 --> 00:44:45.509
Chairman of Chaos: Trump to… to get a new nominee.

601
00:44:46.100 --> 00:44:54.410
Chairman of Chaos: Will they have the gumption to force his hand? Because here we are, there's something else that you're gonna want.

602
00:44:54.920 --> 00:44:55.590
Manny: Yeah.

603
00:44:56.260 --> 00:44:58.920
Chairman of Chaos: So, we… quid pro quo.

604
00:44:59.120 --> 00:44:59.730
Manny: Yep.

605
00:45:01.350 --> 00:45:08.120
Chairman of Chaos: So, that's gonna be interesting. Yeah. Because you… because what we have on the table… is…

606
00:45:08.510 --> 00:45:10.980
Chairman of Chaos: This War Powers Act situation.

607
00:45:12.690 --> 00:45:13.890
Chairman of Chaos: At the same time.

608
00:45:13.890 --> 00:45:17.119
Manny: At the same time, man, at the same…

609
00:45:17.120 --> 00:45:18.599
Chairman of Chaos: Who even got this nomination.

610
00:45:19.460 --> 00:45:28.950
Chairman of Chaos: I'm sorry, y'all. But yeah, so it's, it's gonna be, it's gonna be very interesting to see…

611
00:45:29.220 --> 00:45:41.490
Chairman of Chaos: how this plays out, and then the, I'll give you this if you give me that. Right. And if they… if he puts up a different nominee, and then we see the…

612
00:45:41.830 --> 00:45:44.630
Chairman of Chaos: The, individuals who, kind of.

613
00:45:45.010 --> 00:45:52.269
Chairman of Chaos: I don't say turn their back on them, but kind of flip the aisle in regards to this War Powers Act resolution.

614
00:45:52.490 --> 00:45:59.769
Chairman of Chaos: Will they kind of walk it back if he presents someone else who is more palatable for them?

615
00:45:59.770 --> 00:46:00.130
Manny: Yep.

616
00:46:00.130 --> 00:46:02.170
Chairman of Chaos: To get through confirmation.

617
00:46:03.870 --> 00:46:09.469
Chairman of Chaos: Who knows? Who knows? But that's how the game goes, y'all. That's how the game goes.

618
00:46:09.900 --> 00:46:13.970
Manny: But that's not the only nomination we heard about.

619
00:46:13.970 --> 00:46:20.840
Chairman of Chaos: Oh, this… now, this is the one… where… You are the coach.

620
00:46:22.070 --> 00:46:26.490
Chairman of Chaos: You're a kid… Can't walk and chew gum.

621
00:46:28.200 --> 00:46:29.359
Chairman of Chaos: At the same time.

622
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:34.389
Chairman of Chaos: They barely can walk, and they barely can chew gum independently.

623
00:46:34.390 --> 00:46:36.119
Manny: Struggling. Struggling in both.

624
00:46:36.500 --> 00:46:42.250
Chairman of Chaos: But you know what? I love my kid, so… I'm gonna put them out there anyway.

625
00:46:42.860 --> 00:46:44.339
Chairman of Chaos: That's what this is.

626
00:46:44.540 --> 00:46:56.289
Manny: But before we… we… we hop into this, I think now is the… the right time for the public service announcement that, I just want… I want everyone to look… look, listen real closely.

627
00:46:56.860 --> 00:46:58.140
Manny: You can be.

628
00:46:58.620 --> 00:47:00.210
Manny: Whoever you want to be.

629
00:47:01.670 --> 00:47:13.090
Manny: because… On June 2nd, Trump announced on Truth Social that Bill Pulte, the, FHFA Director.

630
00:47:13.240 --> 00:47:20.820
Manny: the Fannie Mae chairman, Freddie Mac chairman, would act… would… Boop.

631
00:47:21.070 --> 00:47:24.780
Chairman of Chaos: The businessman and social media personality.

632
00:47:24.780 --> 00:47:25.590
Manny: Yes.

633
00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:27.610
Manny: Yeah.

634
00:47:28.550 --> 00:47:31.210
Chairman of Chaos: Yep. We have to throw that in there.

635
00:47:31.210 --> 00:47:31.890
Manny: Yes.

636
00:47:32.330 --> 00:47:45.459
Manny: is that he… he will serve as the acting director of national intelligence, replacing Tulsi Gabbard, effective June 30th, when she leaves.

637
00:47:46.150 --> 00:47:51.110
Manny: I… I don't know any other way to say this. Next line.

638
00:47:51.270 --> 00:47:57.150
Manny: So I'm just gonna say it like this. This man has zero intelligence experience.

639
00:47:58.410 --> 00:47:58.850
Chairman of Chaos: No.

640
00:47:58.850 --> 00:48:00.000
Manny: They're reporting…

641
00:48:00.740 --> 00:48:02.420
Chairman of Chaos: Negative.

642
00:48:02.420 --> 00:48:02.810
Manny: white.

643
00:48:02.810 --> 00:48:04.580
Chairman of Chaos: Intelligence experience.

644
00:48:04.580 --> 00:48:10.340
Manny: No military. He carries no security clearance history.

645
00:48:11.430 --> 00:48:12.010
Manny: No.

646
00:48:12.010 --> 00:48:17.480
Chairman of Chaos: He didn't even have to do an interview for somebody else who was getting security clearance.

647
00:48:17.940 --> 00:48:20.490
Chairman of Chaos: like… What!

648
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:32.330
Chairman of Chaos: What… what game are we playing? Like, this is not… this is not some arbitrary cabinet position. This is not HUD.

649
00:48:32.640 --> 00:48:35.779
Chairman of Chaos: heck, this is not Health and Human Services.

650
00:48:36.270 --> 00:48:38.119
Chairman of Chaos: Wish, they've mucked that up.

651
00:48:38.120 --> 00:48:38.870
Manny: Bright.

652
00:48:39.350 --> 00:48:40.270
Chairman of Chaos: royally.

653
00:48:40.640 --> 00:48:41.200
Chairman of Chaos: Wait.

654
00:48:41.690 --> 00:48:43.350
Chairman of Chaos: National Intelli.

655
00:48:43.590 --> 00:48:50.089
Manny: He does have one thing going for him, and I think it's his biggest sell, and why Trump said yes.

656
00:48:50.720 --> 00:49:03.990
Manny: what Pulte was able to do… Turning a… a regulating agency Into a political data machine.

657
00:49:04.130 --> 00:49:09.150
Manny: The way that he was able to use, you know, mortgage data.

658
00:49:09.510 --> 00:49:18.939
Manny: Only because he had accessed it to file the criminal complaints against Lisa Cook, Leticia James, and Adam Schiff.

659
00:49:19.460 --> 00:49:26.890
Manny: he drove all those employees out of, the Federal Housing Department.

660
00:49:27.860 --> 00:49:29.780
Manny: He was really good at that.

661
00:49:30.600 --> 00:49:31.570
Manny: And…

662
00:49:31.570 --> 00:49:32.790
Chairman of Chaos: I can…

663
00:49:32.790 --> 00:49:39.459
Manny: I can only imagine what someone who was able to do that With just mortgage data.

664
00:49:39.460 --> 00:49:41.160
Chairman of Chaos: What they could do…

665
00:49:41.160 --> 00:49:41.740
Manny: to do.

666
00:49:43.640 --> 00:49:48.599
Manny: with… All of the data in national intelligence.

667
00:49:52.630 --> 00:49:56.110
Chairman of Chaos: Alright, everybody bow your head. We're about to pray.

668
00:49:56.110 --> 00:49:56.660
Manny: Lord.

669
00:49:57.550 --> 00:49:59.420
Chairman of Chaos: Lord, we come before you right now.

670
00:49:59.420 --> 00:50:00.380
Manny: Yes, Father.

671
00:50:00.380 --> 00:50:01.730
Chairman of Chaos: I'm just saying thank you.

672
00:50:01.730 --> 00:50:03.359
Manny: Thank ya, thank ya, thank ya.

673
00:50:03.360 --> 00:50:04.749
Chairman of Chaos: Thank you for covering us.

674
00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:06.840
Manny: Covering us every day.

675
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:10.219
Chairman of Chaos: Thank you for being in the mist.

676
00:50:11.140 --> 00:50:13.220
Chairman of Chaos: But I also have a request.

677
00:50:13.220 --> 00:50:14.020
Manny: Yes.

678
00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:18.340
Chairman of Chaos: At any moment that you want to go and put your sandals on.

679
00:50:19.830 --> 00:50:23.790
Chairman of Chaos: And crack that sky, and say, put a… stop this foolishness.

680
00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:27.639
Chairman of Chaos: I don't know if I'm gonna be mad at you, cause…

681
00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:30.779
Chairman of Chaos: What is going on, my brother?

682
00:50:30.780 --> 00:50:32.240
Manny: HG's name.

683
00:50:32.240 --> 00:50:33.149
Chairman of Chaos: In Jesus' name.

684
00:50:34.630 --> 00:50:36.479
Chairman of Chaos: Yo, when I pray, I…

685
00:50:37.060 --> 00:50:41.859
Chairman of Chaos: I be talking to a guy, like, hey, like he want… he… one of the boys in the group chat.

686
00:50:41.860 --> 00:50:42.860
Manny: Hey, man. Hot.

687
00:50:42.860 --> 00:50:52.410
Chairman of Chaos: I mean, that's how I was brought up, hey, you… people who say they feel uncomfortable, talk to them. Just holler at them. And I be like, hey, bruh.

688
00:50:53.120 --> 00:50:55.310
Chairman of Chaos: Because… What's really good?

689
00:50:55.690 --> 00:50:58.129
Manny: And I think that's important, because, like.

690
00:50:58.270 --> 00:51:01.060
Manny: If I'm going to God with a question.

691
00:51:03.010 --> 00:51:07.010
Manny: I don't need him to answer me in King James Version.

692
00:51:07.990 --> 00:51:14.679
Manny: I don't. It's too much time for me having to mental, mentally, like, okay.

693
00:51:14.680 --> 00:51:17.940
Chairman of Chaos: You ain't got a translation. Bruh, don't.

694
00:51:18.570 --> 00:51:24.340
Manny: Look, I need God to answer me in either amplified.

695
00:51:24.680 --> 00:51:29.050
Manny: So I can get the kind… I need the amplified when God…

696
00:51:29.050 --> 00:51:30.820
Chairman of Chaos: For the new translation.

697
00:51:30.820 --> 00:51:32.950
Manny: Look, the American standard, I'm good

698
00:51:34.070 --> 00:51:36.149
Manny: Or the new international version. I can't.

699
00:51:36.150 --> 00:51:36.780
Chairman of Chaos: For example.

700
00:51:37.700 --> 00:51:41.609
Manny: Job, if you go back and read the book of Job, or for

701
00:51:42.020 --> 00:51:44.629
Manny: I'm sorry, if you're listening, the book of John…

702
00:51:45.110 --> 00:51:45.710
Chairman of Chaos: Yes.

703
00:51:45.710 --> 00:51:54.179
Manny: Book of Job. That's how he lamented to God and said, God, I don't understand, and I'm big mad.

704
00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:57.280
Chairman of Chaos: I was your dog.

705
00:51:57.280 --> 00:51:58.150
Manny: Right.

706
00:51:58.150 --> 00:52:01.469
Chairman of Chaos: You know, it reminds me of the DMX song.

707
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:07.490
Chairman of Chaos: You used to be my dog, you was in my lip titty. Oh, I'm sorry, y'all.

708
00:52:07.700 --> 00:52:15.339
Chairman of Chaos: But yeah, it… that's what Job was for me. Read Job. Job is… the book of Job is pretty dope.

709
00:52:16.640 --> 00:52:22.389
Chairman of Chaos: This is… this is… I can't even say it's nuts.

710
00:52:22.940 --> 00:52:24.200
Chairman of Chaos: Because it's Trump.

711
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:28.849
Manny: Right. It's true. And I just… I just don't understand…

712
00:52:29.690 --> 00:52:33.850
Manny: If you have qual… you know one thing we can't say about Blanche?

713
00:52:34.020 --> 00:52:40.539
Manny: that he holds enough legal… well, we can say that. But he hold… he's a lawyer.

714
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:41.490
Chairman of Chaos: He's a lawyer.

715
00:52:41.490 --> 00:52:42.619
Manny: I can connect.

716
00:52:42.620 --> 00:52:43.139
Chairman of Chaos: He's a lawyer.

717
00:52:44.210 --> 00:52:59.099
Manny: I cannot connect the dots. You have zero national intelligence, like, zero, zero experience. You're coming from an agency… had he even been in the FB… like…

718
00:52:59.930 --> 00:53:00.980
Manny: Some realm.

719
00:53:00.980 --> 00:53:03.410
Chairman of Chaos: Something! If he was in the reserves!

720
00:53:03.890 --> 00:53:06.250
Manny: We talk about Pete Kegseth.

721
00:53:07.410 --> 00:53:10.830
Manny: We ain't talked about him in a couple episodes.

722
00:53:10.830 --> 00:53:12.370
Chairman of Chaos: But you know what?

723
00:53:12.370 --> 00:53:14.470
Manny: He was a lease in the military.

724
00:53:14.470 --> 00:53:15.110
Chairman of Chaos: At least.

725
00:53:15.110 --> 00:53:20.149
Manny: He has a basic understanding of how the military works.

726
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:20.970
Chairman of Chaos: Although…

727
00:53:20.970 --> 00:53:21.919
Manny: I don't know.

728
00:53:22.100 --> 00:53:28.050
Chairman of Chaos: Although that video, where he caught himself being out there with those sailors, and…

729
00:53:28.330 --> 00:53:30.510
Manny: It was wild.

730
00:53:31.680 --> 00:53:33.140
Chairman of Chaos: Super wild.

731
00:53:33.390 --> 00:53:37.590
Chairman of Chaos: But yeah, at least, at least Tosi was a military officer.

732
00:53:37.590 --> 00:53:38.260
Manny: Right.

733
00:53:38.530 --> 00:53:47.650
Manny: Understood that. She… and even more so, she was in Congress getting those briefings. That, too! She had, at minimum, a security.

734
00:53:47.650 --> 00:53:53.550
Chairman of Chaos: At minimum. At minimum, she knew what door to walk in. At minimum.

735
00:53:53.740 --> 00:53:59.369
Manny: Bathroom is 4 doors down on the right. She had been to the building before.

736
00:53:59.370 --> 00:54:00.490
Chairman of Chaos: At minimum.

737
00:54:01.200 --> 00:54:02.310
Chairman of Chaos: Bill?

738
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:04.960
Chairman of Chaos: Right. Bill's too busy on TikTok.

739
00:54:06.170 --> 00:54:10.879
Manny: Bruh, I… I'm just out here trying to do the dance.

740
00:54:11.500 --> 00:54:19.490
Chairman of Chaos: Listen, if… If you're out there, and you could provide us with some kind of…

741
00:54:19.590 --> 00:54:23.700
Chairman of Chaos: Insight and understanding to this nomination.

742
00:54:24.310 --> 00:54:25.250
Chairman of Chaos: What's up?

743
00:54:25.620 --> 00:54:27.640
Chairman of Chaos: Because we're be- we're bewildered.

744
00:54:28.700 --> 00:54:29.750
Chairman of Chaos: We're befuddled.

745
00:54:29.810 --> 00:54:30.310
Manny: I think.

746
00:54:30.310 --> 00:54:32.289
Chairman of Chaos: Here we go to the attitude.

747
00:54:32.530 --> 00:54:38.139
Manny: Wha… Look, this is why I don't think this is going anywhere.

748
00:54:38.710 --> 00:54:42.170
Manny: John Thune, Majority Leader Thune.

749
00:54:42.600 --> 00:54:44.459
Manny: said this quote.

750
00:54:44.950 --> 00:54:47.590
Manny: We don't need a weaponized D&I.

751
00:54:47.780 --> 00:54:49.780
Manny: We need professionals there.

752
00:54:49.970 --> 00:55:00.209
Manny: If he's somebody they want in that position permanently, he's got a lengthy road ahead of him. And this is somebody who is on your side saying this.

753
00:55:00.210 --> 00:55:05.990
Chairman of Chaos: Has been on your side. Has been on your side. You're right. You know what, and I also want to point out.

754
00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:07.849
Chairman of Chaos: This is DEI.

755
00:55:08.510 --> 00:55:09.740
Manny: Bruh.

756
00:55:09.740 --> 00:55:14.289
Chairman of Chaos: This is… this is everything that y'all claimed was happening.

757
00:55:15.080 --> 00:55:16.990
Chairman of Chaos: In many other sectors.

758
00:55:18.140 --> 00:55:19.919
Chairman of Chaos: He's not qualified.

759
00:55:20.950 --> 00:55:25.509
Chairman of Chaos: Has no propensity of showing competency in this realm.

760
00:55:26.190 --> 00:55:27.659
Chairman of Chaos: But guess what?

761
00:55:29.700 --> 00:55:31.020
Chairman of Chaos: Put them out for the job!

762
00:55:31.020 --> 00:55:31.790
Manny: Yeah.

763
00:55:33.090 --> 00:55:40.080
Chairman of Chaos: On top of firing all of these highly qualified, Highly decorated individuals

764
00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:45.929
Chairman of Chaos: Removing them from the military, not promoting individuals who are deserving of promotion.

765
00:55:47.710 --> 00:55:50.369
Chairman of Chaos: You know, let's not look at one of them.

766
00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:52.690
Manny: And Trump was asked.

767
00:55:52.870 --> 00:56:09.649
Manny: you know, what his justification is, and he said, William has a deep experience managing the most sensitive matters in America. The safety and soundness of the markets, and over $10 trillion at Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac.

768
00:56:12.060 --> 00:56:13.919
Chairman of Chaos: He knows how to move money.

769
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:17.380
Manny: If you don't… if you don't go sit down and drink your insure.

770
00:56:18.880 --> 00:56:26.880
Manny: Go take a nap. Wait, that's your justification? That is what you expect to get him over the hump? Sir?

771
00:56:28.490 --> 00:56:29.060
Manny: Sir.

772
00:56:29.060 --> 00:56:30.090
Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, he…

773
00:56:30.090 --> 00:56:31.170
Manny: Absolutely not.

774
00:56:32.870 --> 00:56:41.399
Chairman of Chaos: I don't… I… there's no need to even continue with this, like, this is… This is a mess.

775
00:56:41.400 --> 00:56:42.000
Manny: Yeah.

776
00:56:42.540 --> 00:56:45.709
Manny: Now, here's what I do think could happen.

777
00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:52.169
Manny: I think that he fails.

778
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:55.860
Manny: So… Spectacularly.

779
00:56:57.130 --> 00:56:58.410
Chairman of Chaos: That's a great way to put it.

780
00:56:58.670 --> 00:57:04.379
Manny: that I… and I think they'll time it. I think… because I don't know who will hit committee first.

781
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:12.789
Manny: If Blanche hits the committee first, and it starts not going well, like it starts going bad, I think they accelerate Pulte.

782
00:57:13.700 --> 00:57:16.160
Manny: Because poultry's not gonna go well either.

783
00:57:16.340 --> 00:57:20.969
Manny: No. And I think it is such… it goes so poorly.

784
00:57:21.700 --> 00:57:26.160
Manny: that Trump pulls them both, but allows Pulte to take the fall.

785
00:57:29.030 --> 00:57:29.820
Chairman of Chaos: Hmm.

786
00:57:29.820 --> 00:57:45.280
Manny: Because how do I… how do I… how do I snatch Blanche away without causing any real attention? I let… I let Pulte explode in a blaze of glory, then Pulte can go hop on TikTok and, do an interview with the president.

787
00:57:46.160 --> 00:57:49.440
Manny: And go ahead, start his media career.

788
00:57:49.860 --> 00:57:53.629
Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, okay, I can see that. I can see that.

789
00:57:53.850 --> 00:57:58.370
Chairman of Chaos: It's the easiest out. It is definitely the easiest out.

790
00:57:58.760 --> 00:58:07.649
Manny: what… what is the response? How do you… how do you get your… how do you get yourself out of the situation that you put yourself in, that people told you.

791
00:58:07.850 --> 00:58:10.509
Manny: You should not be putting yourself into that position.

792
00:58:11.400 --> 00:58:12.060
Chairman of Chaos: Yeah.

793
00:58:13.180 --> 00:58:14.970
Manny: So, yeah.

794
00:58:15.720 --> 00:58:22.220
Manny: Yeah, that is… That is Bill Pulte, and yeah.

795
00:58:22.930 --> 00:58:30.269
Manny: Well, here, we've now reached the point in the podcast where Jeezy would hop in and bring you the pickle of the week.

796
00:58:31.460 --> 00:58:40.070
Manny: But we're not gonna have the Pickle of the Week. No, no, no! We're gonna have the, we're gonna have the Chairman's Moment of Chaos.

797
00:58:40.530 --> 00:58:43.130
Chairman of Chaos: Oh, I like that! Alright!

798
00:58:43.130 --> 00:58:45.179
Manny: Chairman's Moment of Chaos.

799
00:58:46.050 --> 00:58:53.420
Chairman of Chaos: We don't have any sound for this, but… Yeah, yeah, we're… Something. It's chaotic.

800
00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:57.490
Manny: So, Chuck, who's got a moment of chaos this week?

801
00:58:58.010 --> 00:59:06.269
Chairman of Chaos: Brother, I'm actually glad you said it in that fashion, because this is… Actually, very chaotic.

802
00:59:07.640 --> 00:59:14.989
Chairman of Chaos: Hey, Jared Kushner. Ivanka Trump. Oh, you caused some chaos, I tell you.

803
00:59:14.990 --> 00:59:15.620
Manny: Hmm.

804
00:59:16.010 --> 00:59:21.490
Chairman of Chaos: For those who don't know, Ivanka and Jared, have plans…

805
00:59:21.780 --> 00:59:26.709
Chairman of Chaos: to transform, and I'm gonna tear this up, but such is life.

806
00:59:26.930 --> 00:59:36.530
Chairman of Chaos: Cezanne Island in Albania. They… Excuse me, have an ultra-luxury eco-resort planned.

807
00:59:36.950 --> 00:59:42.579
Chairman of Chaos: And this is, backed by Jared Kushner's private equity firm, Affinity Partners.

808
00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:43.760
Manny: Is it an S?

809
00:59:47.970 --> 00:59:49.820
Chairman of Chaos: Not them, again.

810
00:59:52.610 --> 01:00:02.259
Chairman of Chaos: This is an estimated 1.4 billion euro project, and it has ignited That's an understatement.

811
01:00:02.260 --> 01:00:02.970
Manny: Yeah.

812
01:00:03.680 --> 01:00:06.659
Chairman of Chaos: It hasn't ignited… it hasn't ignited protests.

813
01:00:07.390 --> 01:00:09.729
Chairman of Chaos: Protest has been a bomb.

814
01:00:09.730 --> 01:00:10.120
Manny: Oh, yeah.

815
01:00:10.120 --> 01:00:11.200
Chairman of Chaos: explosion.

816
01:00:11.690 --> 01:00:13.070
Chairman of Chaos: In Albania.

817
01:00:13.220 --> 01:00:30.110
Chairman of Chaos: So, here's the proposed development. Its location, in Cezanne is Albania's largest and only undeveloped island, featuring a rugged landscape and a decommissioned Cold War military base.

818
01:00:30.340 --> 01:00:34.779
Chairman of Chaos: But here's the thing. This was a federally protected land.

819
01:00:35.160 --> 01:00:40.090
Chairman of Chaos: This was a land that was…

820
01:00:41.400 --> 01:00:44.850
Chairman of Chaos: Eco… I was about to say ecological… yeah.

821
01:00:44.850 --> 01:00:46.209
Manny: Ecological, yep, that's the right one.

822
01:00:46.210 --> 01:00:55.470
Chairman of Chaos: Ecological, ecologically protected, and the government… In some underhanded way.

823
01:00:55.900 --> 01:01:00.470
Chairman of Chaos: Kind of pull back the, regulations, and…

824
01:01:02.210 --> 01:01:05.170
Chairman of Chaos: Greenlit this project to go forward.

825
01:01:05.630 --> 01:01:06.030
Manny: Yep.

826
01:01:06.030 --> 01:01:14.330
Chairman of Chaos: And… When this happened, Oh, my, my, mama. The protests… I…

827
01:01:14.740 --> 01:01:21.160
Chairman of Chaos: What happened, or what started in Albania makes… the No Kings protests.

828
01:01:21.780 --> 01:01:24.150
Chairman of Chaos: Child's play.

829
01:01:24.150 --> 01:01:25.460
Manny: child's.

830
01:01:25.460 --> 01:01:32.249
Chairman of Chaos: It looked like a day of students walking in the hallway in line.

831
01:01:32.250 --> 01:01:33.140
Manny: Yep.

832
01:01:33.140 --> 01:01:34.499
Chairman of Chaos: What it makes it look like.

833
01:01:34.740 --> 01:01:40.439
Chairman of Chaos: So… Demonstrators rallied against this in the…

834
01:01:40.810 --> 01:01:48.119
Chairman of Chaos: Hundreds of thousands on consecutive days, even in… they're probably still protesting.

835
01:01:48.120 --> 01:01:50.659
Manny: It's so ground right now as we speak. Yes.

836
01:01:50.850 --> 01:01:55.489
Chairman of Chaos: And it's been dubbed as the Flamingo Revolution.

837
01:01:57.820 --> 01:02:01.560
Chairman of Chaos: I'll lie to you not.

838
01:02:01.560 --> 01:02:06.180
Manny: That's what they're calling me. If I'm lying, I'm flying, but here I am, right on the.

839
01:02:06.180 --> 01:02:14.910
Chairman of Chaos: They say that they adopted the pink flamingo as a symbol of the wildlife that they say will be destroyed if this project goes ahead.

840
01:02:15.190 --> 01:02:29.970
Chairman of Chaos: One… Again, this is… a… a ecological, area that is undisturbed.

841
01:02:30.200 --> 01:02:34.520
Chairman of Chaos: Outside of that military base, it's a protected zone.

842
01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:40.970
Chairman of Chaos: And there's a… there is a flamingo habitation there.

843
01:02:41.140 --> 01:02:44.749
Chairman of Chaos: But also just the, the…

844
01:02:45.170 --> 01:02:48.680
Chairman of Chaos: the way that they… that the Albanian government went about

845
01:02:48.790 --> 01:02:56.570
Chairman of Chaos: Fast-tracking and repealing some of the federal protections and the legal

846
01:02:57.390 --> 01:03:04.900
Chairman of Chaos: Guidelines that were already in place for this, resort to move forward.

847
01:03:05.120 --> 01:03:06.910
Chairman of Chaos: Did not sit well with the people.

848
01:03:07.570 --> 01:03:13.169
Chairman of Chaos: There was no public… consultation, there was no…

849
01:03:13.510 --> 01:03:18.680
Chairman of Chaos: committee, there was what we talked about earlier, with… Hush, hush.

850
01:03:18.680 --> 01:03:19.340
Manny: people.

851
01:03:19.660 --> 01:03:27.190
Chairman of Chaos: There was no… Chance for people to give or rebut. It was…

852
01:03:27.490 --> 01:03:32.929
Chairman of Chaos: Backroom deals, shaking hands, money exchange, assumingly.

853
01:03:33.030 --> 01:03:36.250
Chairman of Chaos: And… Then this was announced.

854
01:03:37.790 --> 01:03:44.830
Chairman of Chaos: So right now, the plan is to still move forward right now, but

855
01:03:45.190 --> 01:03:47.489
Chairman of Chaos: At the level that they turn it up?

856
01:03:48.370 --> 01:03:52.930
Manny: They… I think you said it perfectly, that the…

857
01:03:53.250 --> 01:04:07.120
Manny: the people down there in the flamingo Revolution are making No Kings look like child's play. For them to have been… be out in the streets, carrying pink flamingo cutouts.

858
01:04:09.090 --> 01:04:10.459
Chairman of Chaos: And inflatable ones.

859
01:04:10.460 --> 01:04:23.480
Manny: Right. Chanting, nation not for sale. And then, I also think it's funny, the shots that they're throwing over other places saying, I don't want Albania like Dubai.

860
01:04:24.640 --> 01:04:33.480
Manny: It's… I said, oh man, y'all are… y'all are going out. And then to hear Ivanka's response to it, calling it a lucky discovery…

861
01:04:34.920 --> 01:04:35.780
Manny: What?

862
01:04:37.290 --> 01:04:38.050
Chairman of Chaos: Oh, yeah.

863
01:04:38.140 --> 01:04:42.689
Manny: But I will also say, this is what checks and balances look like.

864
01:04:44.040 --> 01:04:44.370
Chairman of Chaos: Yes.

865
01:04:44.370 --> 01:05:01.300
Manny: So, I think the other part, Albania is… I think the group that's… that it's called is SPAC, S-P-A-K, was established in 2019 with a backlog to say, hey, these are high corruption things, we want you to investigate these things.

866
01:05:01.480 --> 01:05:09.160
Manny: And they're investigating it, and they're calling out things that need to be called out. So, kudos to y'all, Albania.

867
01:05:09.370 --> 01:05:12.200
Manny: And, man, you… Albania.

868
01:05:12.200 --> 01:05:17.749
Chairman of Chaos: Ivanka and Jared, you got some chaos on your hands.

869
01:05:18.500 --> 01:05:20.090
Chairman of Chaos: Albanian government.

870
01:05:20.780 --> 01:05:22.409
Chairman of Chaos: You created some chaos.

871
01:05:22.410 --> 01:05:23.120
Manny: Yeah.

872
01:05:23.780 --> 01:05:24.829
Chairman of Chaos: So, there we are.

873
01:05:25.170 --> 01:05:26.440
Manny: So, man.

874
01:05:27.300 --> 01:05:42.369
Manny: Well, we have… we're coming to that time in the episode where we'd like to just talk about some things that the media's not necessarily watching, or not watching as loudly with our Spotlights of the week.

875
01:05:42.650 --> 01:05:50.520
Manny: And… Chuck, I'll kick it to you. What is your spotlight of the week?

876
01:05:51.270 --> 01:05:52.060
Chairman of Chaos: Brother.

877
01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:59.920
Chairman of Chaos: Well, my spotlight… It's been talked about.

878
01:06:00.860 --> 01:06:03.470
Chairman of Chaos: But the fashion that has been talked about

879
01:06:04.050 --> 01:06:07.079
Chairman of Chaos: I don't know if they talk about it nearly enough.

880
01:06:07.700 --> 01:06:09.830
Manny: Or probably not the way we need to talk about it.

881
01:06:09.830 --> 01:06:15.929
Chairman of Chaos: That's what I was about to say, or it wasn't talked about in the way that we needed to be talked about. So…

882
01:06:17.450 --> 01:06:20.240
Chairman of Chaos: If you have not heard, SpaceX…

883
01:06:20.730 --> 01:06:23.509
Chairman of Chaos: is about to have their IPO.

884
01:06:23.960 --> 01:06:25.249
Chairman of Chaos: on this week.

885
01:06:25.500 --> 01:06:31.040
Chairman of Chaos: I want to say it's the 12th, is the… prospective date for their IPO.

886
01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:35.660
Chairman of Chaos: And for those who don't know, IPO is Initial Purchase Offering.

887
01:06:36.050 --> 01:06:45.909
Chairman of Chaos: And… They're going on to have a NASDAQ listing, and that NASDAQ listing ticker is SPCX.

888
01:06:47.150 --> 01:06:50.530
Chairman of Chaos: And they're looking to drop shares…

889
01:06:51.410 --> 01:06:58.009
Chairman of Chaos: at the tune of a projected, targeting IPO price of $135 a share.

890
01:06:58.310 --> 01:07:04.270
Chairman of Chaos: offering… 556.6 million shares.

891
01:07:04.550 --> 01:07:14.649
Chairman of Chaos: Aiming to raise $75 billion At a valuation of $1.75 trillion.

892
01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:20.260
Chairman of Chaos: Which would make this the largest IPO in stock market history?

893
01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:22.420
Chairman of Chaos: Wonderful.

894
01:07:23.100 --> 01:07:24.510
Chairman of Chaos: I hope you hear the sarcasm.

895
01:07:26.100 --> 01:07:27.540
Chairman of Chaos: But here's my thing.

896
01:07:30.540 --> 01:07:36.480
Chairman of Chaos: There's been a lot… there… there are a lot of rules that are set in place

897
01:07:38.210 --> 01:07:40.910
Chairman of Chaos: when the… when IPOs happen.

898
01:07:41.520 --> 01:07:47.470
Chairman of Chaos: There are a lot of safeguards and guardrails That I put in place.

899
01:07:48.510 --> 01:07:50.139
Chairman of Chaos: when IPOs happen.

900
01:07:51.070 --> 01:07:52.279
Chairman of Chaos: Guess what, people?

901
01:07:53.870 --> 01:08:00.040
Chairman of Chaos: These safeguards, guardrails, and rules Have been rolled back.

902
01:08:01.110 --> 01:08:02.830
Chairman of Chaos: have been repealed.

903
01:08:03.760 --> 01:08:05.170
Chairman of Chaos: Have been taken down.

904
01:08:06.870 --> 01:08:12.920
Chairman of Chaos: I won't… I won't dive too deep, because this is the spotlight, and I just want to make you aware of this.

905
01:08:13.230 --> 01:08:17.149
Chairman of Chaos: This is for educational purposes and informational.

906
01:08:18.590 --> 01:08:20.180
Chairman of Chaos: But here's the thing.

907
01:08:22.550 --> 01:08:24.240
Chairman of Chaos: Number one, I don't trust Elon.

908
01:08:24.740 --> 01:08:25.330
Manny: Ugh.

909
01:08:25.520 --> 01:08:26.740
Chairman of Chaos: That's number one.

910
01:08:27.500 --> 01:08:32.260
Chairman of Chaos: You saw what he did with Doge. You seen what he's done with other things, but I don't trust Elon.

911
01:08:32.680 --> 01:08:40.379
Chairman of Chaos: Now, this push to go public is driven largely by the spectacular growth of Starlink. I don't trust Starlink.

912
01:08:41.500 --> 01:08:54.849
Chairman of Chaos: Starlink, for you who don't know, is SpaceX's satellite internet service, allowing you to have access to the internet anywhere you go with connecting to

913
01:08:55.160 --> 01:09:01.530
Chairman of Chaos: A satellite in the sky, no matter the remote location that you are, In theory.

914
01:09:01.720 --> 01:09:09.680
Chairman of Chaos: You're supposed to be able to have a internet connection, via… that satellite. You can also…

915
01:09:10.439 --> 01:09:17.939
Chairman of Chaos: It affords those who live in rural areas the opportunity to have access to internet.

916
01:09:18.609 --> 01:09:24.859
Chairman of Chaos: An internet connection that's more reliable than many of the offerings that's available to them now.

917
01:09:25.060 --> 01:09:34.920
Chairman of Chaos: There's some cell phones that are already equipped to be able to take advantage of Starlink. Some of your carriers have already set deals in place.

918
01:09:35.029 --> 01:09:42.060
Chairman of Chaos: with SpaceX to have that capability automatically on your phone, because the chips are already in your phone.

919
01:09:42.479 --> 01:09:44.809
Chairman of Chaos: Kind of the reason I haven't upgraded my phone…

920
01:09:46.460 --> 01:09:55.400
Chairman of Chaos: But we won't talk about that. But here's the thing, as far as this IPO, the mathematics…

921
01:09:56.000 --> 01:09:57.770
Chairman of Chaos: of this valuation.

922
01:09:59.610 --> 01:10:00.990
Chairman of Chaos: Don't make sense.

923
01:10:03.490 --> 01:10:13.680
Chairman of Chaos: The $1.75 trillion range For this valuation, is insane.

924
01:10:15.210 --> 01:10:16.909
Chairman of Chaos: Just to give you an idea.

925
01:10:18.270 --> 01:10:22.549
Chairman of Chaos: SpaceX reported a $2.6 billion loss in 2025.

926
01:10:24.500 --> 01:10:30.690
Manny: Like, like, they, they, they spent more money than they took in, just, just so I'm clear.

927
01:10:32.060 --> 01:10:36.720
Chairman of Chaos: If their books was a bank account statement, it would be read.

928
01:10:36.720 --> 01:10:39.990
Manny: Mmm, okay, thank you, thank you for that, that clarity.

929
01:10:40.170 --> 01:10:41.300
Chairman of Chaos: Yes, sir.

930
01:10:42.050 --> 01:10:44.910
Chairman of Chaos: So you lost $2.6 billion.

931
01:10:46.150 --> 01:10:47.590
Chairman of Chaos: Just last year.

932
01:10:48.050 --> 01:10:55.110
Chairman of Chaos: But you want us to… raised $75 billion on your behalf with the IPO.

933
01:10:56.080 --> 01:10:59.700
Chairman of Chaos: And… I'm supposed to feel good about this?

934
01:11:01.700 --> 01:11:05.790
Chairman of Chaos: This is like giving your money to your cousin who don't ever pay you back.

935
01:11:06.700 --> 01:11:08.610
Chairman of Chaos: And they keep coming asking you for money?

936
01:11:09.170 --> 01:11:10.400
Chairman of Chaos: That's what that's like.

937
01:11:10.790 --> 01:11:14.619
Chairman of Chaos: And then also, as I stated, these red flags.

938
01:11:15.230 --> 01:11:16.220
Chairman of Chaos: There's more.

939
01:11:17.250 --> 01:11:24.680
Chairman of Chaos: Guess how much boating power Elon will control… with this IPO.

940
01:11:25.390 --> 01:11:30.399
Chairman of Chaos: For those who don't know, when you purchase stock, You're a shareholder.

941
01:11:31.780 --> 01:11:35.339
Chairman of Chaos: You have a certain percentage of voting power.

942
01:11:35.860 --> 01:11:40.319
Chairman of Chaos: As a shareholder, consummate to how much stock you hold.

943
01:11:42.820 --> 01:11:45.300
Chairman of Chaos: Yeah. This is not gonna be the case here.

944
01:11:45.500 --> 01:11:46.060
Manny: Hmm.

945
01:11:46.060 --> 01:11:54.100
Chairman of Chaos: Elon will retain roughly 85% of voting control of SpaceX.

946
01:11:56.310 --> 01:12:02.700
Chairman of Chaos: Giving minority shareholders very limited.

947
01:12:03.050 --> 01:12:11.370
Chairman of Chaos: Very limited. Influence, power, governance, 85%.

948
01:12:12.490 --> 01:12:14.580
Chairman of Chaos: One man. Hi, yay!

949
01:12:14.820 --> 01:12:18.480
Chairman of Chaos: Eloquently said, no one man should have all this power.

950
01:12:20.530 --> 01:12:29.429
Chairman of Chaos: So much so, that… there's a private equity fund in Denmark That has blacklisted this stock.

951
01:12:30.070 --> 01:12:30.880
Manny: Mmm.

952
01:12:31.620 --> 01:12:34.989
Chairman of Chaos: This fund holds over $25 billion.

953
01:12:35.390 --> 01:12:42.940
Chairman of Chaos: And they said their exact words were, the governance structure of this is catastrophic.

954
01:12:43.930 --> 01:12:47.020
Chairman of Chaos: And the stock is grossly overvalued.

955
01:12:48.690 --> 01:12:54.750
Chairman of Chaos: But furthermore, The, the, the valuation aside, the governance…

956
01:12:55.180 --> 01:12:58.620
Chairman of Chaos: Isn't enough to give pause for them.

957
01:12:58.820 --> 01:13:01.870
Chairman of Chaos: With him holding 85% of voting power.

958
01:13:03.970 --> 01:13:05.910
Chairman of Chaos: Now, let's take a look at this.

959
01:13:06.620 --> 01:13:15.829
Chairman of Chaos: It is theorized that this IPO has been set up to help fund and pay for the AI race.

960
01:13:18.460 --> 01:13:27.119
Chairman of Chaos: I told you that, Elon was just in the court case, with OpenAI and their founder, He lost.

961
01:13:28.840 --> 01:13:30.070
Chairman of Chaos: soccer there.

962
01:13:30.810 --> 01:13:35.529
Chairman of Chaos: but also, he took his ex-AI company.

963
01:13:36.010 --> 01:13:44.890
Chairman of Chaos: That he spun off and created after leaving OpenAI as one of their chief and primary, funders.

964
01:13:46.180 --> 01:13:50.710
Chairman of Chaos: and he merged XAI, with SpaceX.

965
01:13:52.280 --> 01:13:54.009
Chairman of Chaos: And caused a conglomerate.

966
01:13:54.240 --> 01:13:59.970
Chairman of Chaos: And as my good brother Manny has told you, this AI race…

967
01:14:00.570 --> 01:14:03.430
Chairman of Chaos: Has not only become more and more expensive.

968
01:14:03.790 --> 01:14:06.790
Chairman of Chaos: It's costing these companies more and more money.

969
01:14:06.790 --> 01:14:08.019
Manny: Whole lot of money.

970
01:14:08.430 --> 01:14:11.920
Chairman of Chaos: In fact, XAI lost.

971
01:14:12.580 --> 01:14:14.510
Chairman of Chaos: $6 billion.

972
01:14:15.190 --> 01:14:16.870
Chairman of Chaos: In 2025.

973
01:14:18.430 --> 01:14:25.140
Chairman of Chaos: And it's projected to burn through $10 billion, In 2026.

974
01:14:27.840 --> 01:14:39.110
Chairman of Chaos: So, if we're doing math, we have… A loss of… $2.6 billion, By SpaceX?

975
01:14:40.520 --> 01:14:45.110
Chairman of Chaos: A loss of $6 billion by XAI.

976
01:14:46.320 --> 01:14:51.180
Chairman of Chaos: In 2025, so we're at 8 point… what, 8.5? 8.6 million?

977
01:14:51.750 --> 01:14:55.070
Chairman of Chaos: With a projected $10 billion loss this year.

978
01:14:55.340 --> 01:14:59.220
Chairman of Chaos: It puts us at… 18.6?

979
01:15:03.040 --> 01:15:05.929
Chairman of Chaos: And the cost of AI is not getting any cheaper.

980
01:15:06.310 --> 01:15:11.910
Chairman of Chaos: Now, they try to get a little reprieve and say, well, Starlink… Turned a profit.

981
01:15:13.360 --> 01:15:18.970
Chairman of Chaos: Well, Starlink can't find… SpaceX… and XAI.

982
01:15:19.780 --> 01:15:21.250
Chairman of Chaos: So guess what they want to do?

983
01:15:22.030 --> 01:15:23.290
Chairman of Chaos: Get you to fund it.

984
01:15:24.580 --> 01:15:39.190
Chairman of Chaos: But one of my biggest concerns was the… regulatory peelback Of how soon that, spaceX can be… accessed

985
01:15:39.730 --> 01:15:41.140
Chairman of Chaos: by the markets.

986
01:15:41.500 --> 01:15:44.860
Chairman of Chaos: And by the, I'm losing the term.

987
01:15:45.510 --> 01:15:46.439
Chairman of Chaos: Retail consumer.

988
01:15:46.440 --> 01:15:46.830
Manny: retail.

989
01:15:46.830 --> 01:15:47.240
Chairman of Chaos: Me too.

990
01:15:47.570 --> 01:15:48.920
Chairman of Chaos: Retail investor.

991
01:15:49.390 --> 01:15:50.780
Chairman of Chaos: They've peeled that back.

992
01:15:51.380 --> 01:15:54.010
Chairman of Chaos: Normally isn't, What is it?

993
01:15:54.770 --> 01:15:56.880
Chairman of Chaos: I wanna s- I was about to say 6 months.

994
01:15:57.100 --> 01:15:59.110
Chairman of Chaos: It's an extended period of time.

995
01:15:59.210 --> 01:16:02.069
Chairman of Chaos: Before retail investors can get their hands

996
01:16:02.400 --> 01:16:12.959
Chairman of Chaos: on it from a 401K standpoint, not to purchase the IPO. You can purchase the IPO, but before it's available for you to access through ETFs.

997
01:16:13.300 --> 01:16:25.119
Chairman of Chaos: Which primarily… I can say primarily, it all depends on the structure of your 401 . But where many 401Ks, especially nowadays, have shifted to

998
01:16:25.310 --> 01:16:33.810
Chairman of Chaos: stabilize and either… and or get a gain on your 401 . A lot of it has gone into the tech sector.

999
01:16:34.580 --> 01:16:43.430
Chairman of Chaos: Well, this safeguard to allow for an IPO to have shown some stability over time?

1000
01:16:43.540 --> 01:16:44.829
Chairman of Chaos: Because that's what it's for.

1001
01:16:45.060 --> 01:16:54.820
Chairman of Chaos: Not just somebody that's hot in the moment, stock to come in, take off, you put your money in it, you shift, and…

1002
01:16:55.100 --> 01:16:59.040
Chairman of Chaos: Not have a full diversification of your funds.

1003
01:16:59.940 --> 01:17:04.249
Chairman of Chaos: And you jump in it, and then it tanks, and now your money's gone.

1004
01:17:04.250 --> 01:17:04.670
Manny: Yep.

1005
01:17:04.880 --> 01:17:06.030
Chairman of Chaos: and now…

1006
01:17:06.460 --> 01:17:15.719
Chairman of Chaos: you have… you've put in 20-something years at this big company, making X amount of money, and when you retire, you gotta go be a greeter at Walmart?

1007
01:17:16.130 --> 01:17:17.790
Chairman of Chaos: To supplement your income?

1008
01:17:18.700 --> 01:17:21.610
Chairman of Chaos: That's what these safeguards are for, that the government…

1009
01:17:21.840 --> 01:17:24.870
Chairman of Chaos: Oh, no, this is Elon, this is our boy.

1010
01:17:25.840 --> 01:17:27.209
Chairman of Chaos: Gonna pull this back.

1011
01:17:28.920 --> 01:17:30.879
Chairman of Chaos: Remember them losses I told y'all about?

1012
01:17:31.890 --> 01:17:37.380
Chairman of Chaos: There's many people who… are… apprehensive.

1013
01:17:38.990 --> 01:17:49.720
Chairman of Chaos: not so much about the IPO as it is about the government pilling back These regulations and safeguards, So…

1014
01:17:49.960 --> 01:17:51.120
Chairman of Chaos: Cavalier.

1015
01:17:53.440 --> 01:17:54.740
Chairman of Chaos: Be careful, people.

1016
01:17:55.750 --> 01:17:58.629
Chairman of Chaos: Now, there are ways to make money off this.

1017
01:17:59.770 --> 01:18:01.029
Chairman of Chaos: Research them?

1018
01:18:01.410 --> 01:18:05.329
Chairman of Chaos: Take advantage of them, because there's gonna be a bunch of money made.

1019
01:18:07.280 --> 01:18:09.350
Chairman of Chaos: But there's a lot of caution.

1020
01:18:10.040 --> 01:18:11.620
Chairman of Chaos: That's a foot.

1021
01:18:12.320 --> 01:18:16.330
Chairman of Chaos: It's particularly… For an extended period of time.

1022
01:18:16.850 --> 01:18:18.249
Chairman of Chaos: with this IPO.

1023
01:18:19.140 --> 01:18:20.699
Chairman of Chaos: That's my spotlight, brother.

1024
01:18:22.950 --> 01:18:30.099
Manny: Once again, this is, this is not a financial podcast, and we are, we are not financial experts, so please do consult.

1025
01:18:30.240 --> 01:18:35.889
Manny: a professional when investing. But yeah, this is something we'll be keeping our eye on.

1026
01:18:36.640 --> 01:18:39.780
Manny: Oh, man, well… For my spotlight.

1027
01:18:40.170 --> 01:18:46.439
Manny: Chuck, you remember when we did that prayer, and we wanted, just, you know, if the good Lord's ready.

1028
01:18:46.790 --> 01:18:47.590
Chairman of Chaos: Yep.

1029
01:18:47.920 --> 01:18:53.329
Manny: Go ahead and throw on them, Air Moses 7s, and make your way down.

1030
01:18:53.760 --> 01:18:57.950
Manny: Cuz… we… the chaos continues, so…

1031
01:18:58.590 --> 01:19:03.289
Manny: On top of all the other good news here in America, because we're just chuck-full of good news at this.

1032
01:19:03.290 --> 01:19:04.400
Chairman of Chaos: Man…

1033
01:19:05.140 --> 01:19:17.550
Manny: A flesh-eating parasite that America eradicated from our ecosystem 60 years ago just showed up in a Texas, calf.

1034
01:19:17.880 --> 01:19:28.869
Manny: And on top of gas prices, on top of food prices also going up, we are now potentially seeing an impact in our beef industry.

1035
01:19:29.190 --> 01:19:37.970
Manny: So… On June 3rd, the USDA confirmed the detection of the New World screwworm.

1036
01:19:38.110 --> 01:19:42.080
Manny: in a 3-week-old calf in Zavala?

1037
01:19:42.250 --> 01:19:44.310
Manny: County, Texas?

1038
01:19:44.310 --> 01:19:44.900
Chairman of Chaos: Alright.

1039
01:19:44.900 --> 01:19:59.410
Manny: Yep, we'll go with that. The larvae was found in a calf's umbilical cord area, and we haven't seen screwworm in the United States since 1966, so…

1040
01:19:59.480 --> 01:20:10.699
Manny: A screw worm is a fly larvae that enters living flesh and leaves behind open wounds that will essentially just kill cattle in about a week.

1041
01:20:10.910 --> 01:20:17.690
Manny: But not only can they go after cattle, they can hit dogs, cats, birds, and humans.

1042
01:20:17.860 --> 01:20:21.760
Manny: So… Yeah…

1043
01:20:21.930 --> 01:20:22.670
Chairman of Chaos: It is.

1044
01:20:22.670 --> 01:20:28.439
Manny: It moves pretty fast, so… How we essentially got here is…

1045
01:20:28.900 --> 01:20:40.459
Manny: we had… when it started, there was a big effort from the U.S. to just push it back, and we did. We pushed it all the way back into Central America, to kind of keep everything at bay.

1046
01:20:40.660 --> 01:20:48.049
Manny: So there was a very large biological barrier. What the U.S. largely did was take,

1047
01:20:48.730 --> 01:20:53.519
Manny: engineered flies, I'll call them, and released them into the ecosystem.

1048
01:20:53.710 --> 01:21:08.070
Manny: To basically keep it at bay. Well, it's been progressively making its way all the way through, Central America, and basically, it was a very slow collapse. So…

1049
01:21:08.410 --> 01:21:17.120
Manny: COVID in 2022 Slowed, the production of all these flies to keep them at bay.

1050
01:21:17.230 --> 01:21:34.299
Manny: In Panama, they do see cases, but in 2023, they saw their number of cases jump from 25 cases a year to an excess of 66,500 cases. So, barriers gone. It's making its way.

1051
01:21:34.300 --> 01:21:34.760
Chairman of Chaos: Terrible.

1052
01:21:34.760 --> 01:21:40.059
Manny: In November of 2024, did anything happen in November of 2024?

1053
01:21:41.260 --> 01:21:42.660
Manny: I can't… I can't put my…

1054
01:21:43.290 --> 01:21:44.590
Manny: I can't put my finger on it, but…

1055
01:21:44.590 --> 01:21:48.030
Chairman of Chaos: Some big event that people made a hoopla about, I don't remember.

1056
01:21:48.510 --> 01:21:52.570
Manny: But, the first cases were confirmed in Mexico.

1057
01:21:52.840 --> 01:22:02.490
Manny: At that point, the USDA ramped up mitigation efforts, Congress was being briefed, and people were yelling very loudly about it.

1058
01:22:02.630 --> 01:22:10.929
Manny: A couple months later, in May of 25, the USDA said, hey, we don't want any live stock imports from Mexico.

1059
01:22:11.200 --> 01:22:21.329
Manny: The very first time we've closed our borders to that standpoint. And cases were found about 700 miles from the U.S. border.

1060
01:22:22.190 --> 01:22:27.250
Manny: Then something happened in the spring, and there was a Doge, and Doge came in, and I.

1061
01:22:27.250 --> 01:22:29.029
Chairman of Chaos: I feel like we haven't been able to…

1062
01:22:29.030 --> 01:22:33.749
Manny: We haven't been able to do an episode without talking about Doge causing impacts.

1063
01:22:33.900 --> 01:22:40.839
Manny: But Doge did a 15% cut to the USDA workforce.

1064
01:22:41.110 --> 01:22:51.799
Manny: And in that killed about 5,300-plus grants, including a screwworm monitoring project.

1065
01:22:52.780 --> 01:22:53.290
Manny: So…

1066
01:22:53.290 --> 01:22:54.610
Chairman of Chaos: No way…

1067
01:22:54.610 --> 01:22:59.520
Manny: Yeah, yeah. They say, screw, that hasn't been here in years, we don't need this.

1068
01:22:59.640 --> 01:23:08.960
Manny: So in July 2025, there were some cases that were then reported 370 miles from the U.S. border.

1069
01:23:09.440 --> 01:23:11.700
Manny: That's a lot of miles for a fly.

1070
01:23:13.220 --> 01:23:18.200
Manny: I'm just saying. Flies ain't but that big. It's a lot of miles and a lot of time.

1071
01:23:18.410 --> 01:23:23.369
Manny: So, from July 2025 to September.

1072
01:23:23.840 --> 01:23:31.569
Manny: Screwworm was detected in Nouveau, Leon, Mexico, which is about 70 miles from the U.S. border.

1073
01:23:32.580 --> 01:23:42.269
Manny: So, this year, the USDA said, okay, dump all the flies. Send all the flies to southern Mexico, let's try to stop it. And then.

1074
01:23:42.270 --> 01:23:42.600
Chairman of Chaos: too late.

1075
01:23:42.600 --> 01:23:46.869
Manny: late, late May, it was detected 25 miles.

1076
01:23:47.380 --> 01:23:51.520
Manny: from the U.S. border, and one week later, it ended up crossing it.

1077
01:23:51.820 --> 01:24:10.029
Manny: And that leads us today, where we have now seen, you know, that first case, hop into the U.S. And now, as of June 5th, there's been a second firm case from a one-month-old calf, about 6 miles away from the first calf.

1078
01:24:10.740 --> 01:24:19.709
Manny: And, yeah, so Governor Abbott has expanded and created a disaster declaration, and is deploying all state resources.

1079
01:24:20.100 --> 01:24:26.969
Manny: Then, following up, Canada has now said, hey, y'all, we, we don't need any livestock from Texas.

1080
01:24:26.970 --> 01:24:27.530
Chairman of Chaos: Come on.

1081
01:24:27.530 --> 01:24:29.360
Manny: And keep all that down there.

1082
01:24:30.980 --> 01:24:38.130
Manny: We… we spent years… Years developing this control.

1083
01:24:38.350 --> 01:24:49.779
Manny: And we've seen it fall apart since COVID. You know, we can't put this all on the administration as a systematic, you know, roll down, but we obviously didn't help it. Now…

1084
01:24:50.410 --> 01:25:01.430
Manny: a lot of this… a lot of the infrastructure to stop it is focusing on producing these flies. So, there is a Panama group that…

1085
01:25:01.830 --> 01:25:18.320
Manny: puts out basically 100 million flies a week, and it's the only operational facility, but it's only about 90% funded by the USDA, and it was built in 2026. There's been another production facility that started its groundbreaking in April.

1086
01:25:18.910 --> 01:25:27.610
Manny: But it's not gonna be operational until November 2027, and it won't be at full capacity until 2028.

1087
01:25:28.320 --> 01:25:35.549
Manny: So, this is something that… Is going to wreak havoc.

1088
01:25:35.880 --> 01:25:38.580
Manny: I think that is easily…

1089
01:25:38.880 --> 01:25:45.489
Manny: going to be a problem, you know? And to think that America's been paying record high beef prices over the last year.

1090
01:25:45.770 --> 01:25:50.669
Manny: Part of that is because we closed off you know, livestock from Mexico.

1091
01:25:51.170 --> 01:25:57.059
Manny: And to now… and we closed it off in hopes of stopping this, and that did not work.

1092
01:25:57.920 --> 01:26:01.469
Chairman of Chaos: And didn't they say we were gonna get the, beef from Argentina?

1093
01:26:02.150 --> 01:26:09.090
Manny: That's what we said. That's what we said. And then, on top of that, I feel… again, farmers.

1094
01:26:09.910 --> 01:26:11.290
Manny: farmers in.

1095
01:26:11.290 --> 01:26:14.029
Chairman of Chaos: Getting the raw deal.

1096
01:26:14.030 --> 01:26:19.540
Manny: Because already, they were looking at cattle herds that I believe were at, like, a 70-year low.

1097
01:26:20.050 --> 01:26:30.059
Manny: haven't had cattle's this small, this herds this small. So now, you take away a major country in which you export those to.

1098
01:26:30.350 --> 01:26:33.580
Manny: Now you're also having to try to protect your herd.

1099
01:26:34.470 --> 01:26:42.550
Manny: this is real money we're losing. Like, we're… this is not theoretical things that we can just say, oh, we'll… we'll deal with that.

1100
01:26:42.710 --> 01:26:48.080
Manny: That's something we kinda need to react and deal with now, and… to…

1101
01:26:48.480 --> 01:26:52.490
Manny: eliminate and cut. And this isn't the only program.

1102
01:26:52.670 --> 01:26:54.580
Manny: That had been cut into impact.

1103
01:26:54.580 --> 01:26:55.250
Chairman of Chaos: Oh, no!

1104
01:26:55.250 --> 01:26:55.750
Manny: And they're.

1105
01:26:55.750 --> 01:26:56.240
Chairman of Chaos: So…

1106
01:26:56.240 --> 01:27:02.090
Manny: We see the dismantling of the underwater detection system that took us 25 years to…

1107
01:27:02.090 --> 01:27:02.500
Chairman of Chaos: Listen.

1108
01:27:02.500 --> 01:27:03.010
Manny: that.

1109
01:27:03.010 --> 01:27:07.329
Chairman of Chaos: When I saw… when I saw that, what are y'all thinking?

1110
01:27:07.330 --> 01:27:25.799
Manny: Right. And for those of you that are like, well, what is that detection? It's used to monitor the sea forward and seabed. I think one of the biggest recent topics that we heard about this underwater detection thing is with, OceanGate picking up that… the… the submarine imploding.

1111
01:27:26.080 --> 01:27:35.390
Manny: when it happened. Yeah. Like, we keep dismember… dis-disabling and shutting down programs Just because it.

1112
01:27:35.390 --> 01:27:36.090
Chairman of Chaos: official.

1113
01:27:36.090 --> 01:27:46.589
Manny: Right, just because things aren't an issue now, doesn't mean the infrastructure that is linked to it is still not important to keep those things running.

1114
01:27:46.680 --> 01:27:59.199
Manny: So, obviously, there's gonna be another squeeze on the farmers. There's gonna be another squeeze on American dollars, and we were already seeing the habits of consumers switching away from beef.

1115
01:27:59.390 --> 01:28:01.619
Manny: Yeah. Because of the price of that.

1116
01:28:01.970 --> 01:28:07.930
Manny: And again, this… this can potentially not only just impact beef.

1117
01:28:08.120 --> 01:28:20.030
Manny: while they're the target, it can affect other different types of cattle. So, the ripple effect that we are now going to start seeing because of this, in a time that we're already being hit from the left and the right.

1118
01:28:21.120 --> 01:28:34.199
Manny: It's gonna be a situation, and it's going to be a readily evolving situation, because now the question is, from our southern border, how do we prevent it from going further? How do we start pushing it back?

1119
01:28:34.430 --> 01:28:39.339
Manny: What other resources can we… we deploy to… to address it?

1120
01:28:40.120 --> 01:28:49.999
Manny: The Republican nominee for the Texas Agriculture Commissioner called this an agricultural… agricultural emergency.

1121
01:28:50.760 --> 01:28:55.269
Manny: I mean… I don't think there's a better way to describe this.

1122
01:28:56.140 --> 01:28:56.670
Manny: But I…

1123
01:28:56.670 --> 01:28:57.160
Chairman of Chaos: the question.

1124
01:28:57.160 --> 01:29:02.700
Manny: The question for the administration is, how do we prevent this emergency…

1125
01:29:02.990 --> 01:29:06.930
Manny: From… prevent this emergency to turning into a disaster.

1126
01:29:08.010 --> 01:29:09.350
Chairman of Chaos: James Tallarico.

1127
01:29:11.440 --> 01:29:12.630
Chairman of Chaos: It's at the room.

1128
01:29:14.130 --> 01:29:17.659
Chairman of Chaos: The ball is at the rim.

1129
01:29:18.300 --> 01:29:18.830
Chairman of Chaos: It's…

1130
01:29:18.830 --> 01:29:22.440
Manny: So, and I think the larger question, I think.

1131
01:29:22.590 --> 01:29:29.889
Manny: I think the American people now also have to look at with this is, can we depend on our government.

1132
01:29:29.890 --> 01:29:30.440
Chairman of Chaos: Nope.

1133
01:29:30.440 --> 01:29:32.690
Manny: solve hard problems.

1134
01:29:32.690 --> 01:29:38.869
Chairman of Chaos: No. I can tell you no. Now. Just like this screwworm…

1135
01:29:39.170 --> 01:29:45.849
Chairman of Chaos: Had been eradicated, hadn't been seen since 1966, I think was the year that they said.

1136
01:29:46.870 --> 01:29:49.930
Chairman of Chaos: We… we had measles outbreaks this year.

1137
01:29:50.480 --> 01:29:51.279
Manny: We did.

1138
01:29:51.570 --> 01:29:57.850
Chairman of Chaos: We haven't had measles outbreaks since… Eons ago. Decades ago.

1139
01:29:57.850 --> 01:29:58.410
Manny: Yeah.

1140
01:29:59.400 --> 01:30:03.370
Chairman of Chaos: Like, things that we have… Handle… had a handle on.

1141
01:30:04.360 --> 01:30:06.549
Chairman of Chaos: Are starting to rear its head.

1142
01:30:07.160 --> 01:30:16.270
Chairman of Chaos: Because of… like, you said it perfectly, Manny. Just because we don't see… a problem now.

1143
01:30:17.290 --> 01:30:19.460
Chairman of Chaos: Does not mean we can stop.

1144
01:30:20.610 --> 01:30:24.039
Chairman of Chaos: And it won't be a problem in the future.

1145
01:30:24.860 --> 01:30:29.989
Chairman of Chaos: Because they made that push for, oh, we don't need measles vaccines.

1146
01:30:31.190 --> 01:30:32.230
Chairman of Chaos: Oh, okay.

1147
01:30:34.090 --> 01:30:34.840
Chairman of Chaos: Bookie!

1148
01:30:35.050 --> 01:30:36.669
Manny: Until you get measles.

1149
01:30:37.030 --> 01:30:38.110
Chairman of Chaos: Until you get it.

1150
01:30:39.020 --> 01:30:40.250
Manny: So…

1151
01:30:41.030 --> 01:30:55.920
Manny: You know, if you wanna follow this, there has been a site put out there, it's called screwworm.gov, and in any other context, I would tell you guys, this sounds like a completely made-up government website, but it's not.

1152
01:30:58.490 --> 01:31:07.060
Manny: So you can check there, that's the USDA's, you know, them watching it, them posting news, but this is something that we have to get a hold on now.

1153
01:31:08.770 --> 01:31:09.279
Chairman of Chaos: Thank you very much.

1154
01:31:09.280 --> 01:31:16.499
Manny: Containment… is containment actually a… A realistic goal for this situation.

1155
01:31:16.660 --> 01:31:23.370
Manny: I'm not an expert. If any of our listeners out there are experts in animal science, I would love to find out

1156
01:31:23.550 --> 01:31:30.069
Manny: if containment is even feasible, or whether we need to start thinking about option B, C, D, and E.

1157
01:31:30.470 --> 01:31:32.669
Manny: For dealing with this situation.

1158
01:31:32.970 --> 01:31:37.490
Chairman of Chaos: Well, it was at one point, because they had it contained, handled, and eradicated.

1159
01:31:39.280 --> 01:31:43.160
Manny: So… That is… that is my spotlight of the week.

1160
01:31:43.500 --> 01:31:48.820
Manny: And with that, we've, we've hit my conclu… we've hit the conclusion of this episode.

1161
01:31:49.060 --> 01:31:51.240
Manny: Chuck.

1162
01:31:51.360 --> 01:31:53.730
Manny: Any… Any thoughts?

1163
01:31:54.230 --> 01:31:56.179
Manny: Statements you want to get off your chest.

1164
01:31:56.350 --> 01:32:02.760
Chairman of Chaos: Brother, this… So much, but for the sake of time,

1165
01:32:03.140 --> 01:32:06.290
Chairman of Chaos: Only thing I have to say is World Cup is starting this week.

1166
01:32:06.370 --> 01:32:06.990
Manny: It is.

1167
01:32:06.990 --> 01:32:10.900
Chairman of Chaos: First match is on Thursday the 11th.

1168
01:32:11.660 --> 01:32:18.890
Chairman of Chaos: I think I saw a report that there's still 70,000 hotel rooms available here in Atlanta.

1169
01:32:19.370 --> 01:32:24.069
Chairman of Chaos: Out of what they estimated, because, you know, people have screwed things up.

1170
01:32:24.260 --> 01:32:30.129
Chairman of Chaos: With this, World Cup being in the States, but I'm excited. No. Ready for… Yeah…

1171
01:32:30.130 --> 01:32:30.450
Manny: No.

1172
01:32:30.450 --> 01:32:33.259
Chairman of Chaos: Somebody, somebody needs something, yeah.

1173
01:32:33.400 --> 01:32:38.049
Chairman of Chaos: But I'm excited for the games, I'm excited to see what's gonna happen.

1174
01:32:38.180 --> 01:32:42.579
Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, that's all I have, man. World Cup, let's go.

1175
01:32:42.580 --> 01:32:45.359
Manny: Well, cool. Well, yeah, go USA.

1176
01:32:45.630 --> 01:32:48.330
Manny: Yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna pull, I'm, I'm gonna pull for the…

1177
01:32:48.330 --> 01:32:48.790
Chairman of Chaos: 17.

1178
01:32:48.790 --> 01:32:56.460
Manny: as much, but I will very quickly adopt another team once we probably get bounced in group stage, and, yeah, we'll go.

1179
01:32:56.460 --> 01:33:05.780
Chairman of Chaos: You get my support when you… you get my support when you show me you're worth it. Get to the round of 16, then I'll root for you.

1180
01:33:06.480 --> 01:33:11.870
Manny: And I think it's safe to say that was just a purely soccer comment. That wasn't even a comment on politics.

1181
01:33:12.000 --> 01:33:15.500
Chairman of Chaos: No, no, straight soccer. Straight soccer. Straight soccer.

1182
01:33:16.290 --> 01:33:27.909
Manny: So we want to thank you guys so much for tuning in. Please like, share, follow, comment. We're here, we're talking back with you guys. Let us know your thoughts.

1183
01:33:28.030 --> 01:33:36.400
Manny: And, yeah, remember as we always say here at The Pod, if don't no one else love you guys, then you already know, the boys here at the pod.

1184
01:33:36.650 --> 01:33:44.659
Manny: We love y'all, we appreciate y'all, thank you guys so much for tuning in, and we will catch you guys at the next episode.

1185
01:33:45.280 --> 01:33:46.230
Chairman of Chaos: Peace!