I Love Inflation

The crew is back at full strength. Jeezy, Manny, and Chuck are all in the room for a packed S3E24 that centers on one question: the economy is “good,” but good for whom?

We start with the number that set the week on fire. Inflation hit 4.2%, which is a three-year high. When asked if he was worried, the President said the words no campaign wants on tape: “I love it. I love the inflation.” Things got even stranger with a claim that the U.S. has quietly been pulling millions of barrels of oil out of Iran. We break down what is actually driving prices—energy, with gas up about 40% this year—why core inflation at 2.9% tells a calmer story, and why new Fed Chair Kevin Warsh faces a tough situation. He was brought in to cut rates, but now he is looking at numbers that suggest a hike. Plus, the reality that hits at the kitchen table: inflation has now wiped out the wage gains of this entire administration. PSA: it is no longer acceptable to show up to the cookout with sodas. Bring sides.

Then we take a step back. Elon Musk crossed a trillion dollars after the SpaceX IPO valued the company at about $2.1 trillion. The gap between him and the world's number two is now bigger than the gap from number two down to everyone else. Chuck predicted this in last week's spotlight, and we discuss what is real, what is just on paper, and why a fortune built on government contracts and an AI bet might be more fragile than it seems. This all happened as Friday became the worst market day since the 2025 tariff shock.

Topic three is the chaos inside the intelligence community. After bipartisan backlash, the White House removed Bill Pulte and nominated Jay Clayton for permanent DNI. Manny's prediction from last week was almost exactly right: the whole situation was a distraction to move Todd Blanche. Meanwhile, the fight led to the failure of Section 702 FISA reauthorization, and Chuck asks the episode's sharpest question: as a Black man in America, what liberty did I ever get to give up?

Transcript

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Jeez Louize: Hello, world, and welcome back to Pardon the Politics Podcast Season 3, Episode 24. I am your co-host, Jeezy, and on one side of me, I have my brother Manny. Manny. What's good, brother?

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Manny: Hey, hey, we here. We back, we back. We here.

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Jeez Louize: On the other side, we have none other than the chairman of Chaos himself, Brother Chuck, how are you today?

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Chairman of cHaOs: Rehe-healy.

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Jeez Louize: Ayy.

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Chairman of cHaOs: here.

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Jeez Louize: We bite, we bite, we bite. The boys are back, the podcast again, and to our listeners, welcome, welcome to another episode of Pardon the Politics. We hope this episode, finds you well, and .

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Chairman of cHaOs: Hold on. Hold on, bruh. Hold on, bruh. How you feeling? Yes, sir.

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Manny: Oh, you feel that? Yeah.

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Jeez Louize: Hey, bro, that…

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Chairman of cHaOs: Welcome back.

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Jeez Louize: That's what friends are for.

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Chairman of cHaOs: The good times.

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Jeez Louize: Yes, sir, yes sir, brother.

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Jeez Louize: I'm good, man. I'm glad to be back. Had something family-wise going on with my baby girl last week, you know, a present, active dad has to, you know, handle business every now and then, and it took me away from the pod, but I'm glad to be back. Glad baby girl's okay, and all.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Yes, sir, yes, sir.

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Jeez Louize: as well. Blessed to be seen, not viewed, brother, so yes.

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Manny: Always one.

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Chairman of cHaOs: I love it, I love it.

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Jeez Louize: Everything is good, man. To our listeners, welcome.

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Jeez Louize: Hopefully you're doing well. It's a…

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Jeez Louize: We got something that happened yesterday. I had to think about when this episode was released. We had something that happened yesterday.

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Jeez Louize: Happy Birthday!

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Jeez Louize: to Donald John Trump. He celebrated a birthday on yesterday, I believe his 8th.

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Chairman of cHaOs: For the anniversary of Etoire.

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Jeez Louize: 80?

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Chairman of cHaOs: et toi.

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Chairman of cHaOs: etoi.

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Manny: Big Mac. You think they…

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Jeez Louize: You think they took him to, McDonald's and let them get in the, in the ball pit?

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Manny: No, cause that fool gonna get up looking like Grimace.

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Manny: But if they took him to a…

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Jeez Louize: It felt low-key look like the hamburgler, but built like the Grimace, bro.

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Manny: If they took him to a McDonald's play place, he wouldn't be there for the burgers.

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Jeez Louize: Hey, bro. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

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Manny: That's what them files say. And that's not me saying that, that's what them files say.

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Jeez Louize: The fouls do say that. The fouls do say.

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Jeez Louize: The files do, the files do. So, we're decent people here at the podcast. I was having some conversation with someone about the pod, this past week. I'm like, hey, look, man, we try to… we try to keep it straight down the middle as best as we can. And we're decent people. I want our listeners to understand, we have no,

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Jeez Louize: ill intent towards Donald Trump, so his birthday passing, just like anybody.

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Chairman of cHaOs: I do.

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Chairman of cHaOs: The chair?

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Jeez Louize: from the chaos in that.

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Manny: No feet for me.

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Manny: Phil.

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Chairman of cHaOs: As for me and my house, we gonna bring that smoke.

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Jeez Louize: So, so, we're very kind people, so we, we would, definitely like to extend a happy birthday to, Donnie T.

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Jeez Louize: Yeah.

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Jeez Louize: I wonder if, you know, they played the Stevie Wonder version, is there, like, a Bruce Springden version, or what kind of… kind of birthday song?

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Chairman of cHaOs: You know, it's just the regular old…

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Manny: those things.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Plain version.

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Manny: Hats, Dan.

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Chairman of cHaOs: They just don't do the cha-cha-cha, because then they get deported.

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Manny: You gotta skip that.

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Jeez Louize: Who said that?

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Manny: Get him out of here. Get him out of here.

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Jeez Louize: Well, to jump into our first segment of the podcast, we're gonna talk about the markets.

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Jeez Louize: The inflation, and we got Elon Musk back in the chat, so, hadn't talked about him in a while. But while, Washington spent the week, arguing over war and budgets and investigations, Wall Street had its own drama, unfolding.

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Jeez Louize: Inflation is heating back up. The stock market is trying to figure out what comes next, and President Trump made a comment that, rose some eyebrows, this past week, and Elon Musk just crossed a financial milestone that almost sounds…

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Jeez Louize: Like it's made up. So, we're gonna start with this segment, on inflation.

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Jeez Louize: The new economic data, showed annual inflation rising to 4.2%, the highest level in roughly 3 years. Energy prices.

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Jeez Louize: Where the biggest drivers in oil and gasoline costs, are increasing amend tensions, which we already had spoke about, involving Iran, and, disruptions in the global energy market.

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Jeez Louize: And this marks the third consecutive, month inflation has moved higher. So, Trump was asked a question this past week on inflation, and I want to play this clip for you guys, when he was asked this question.

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Audio shared by Jeez Louize: Are you concerned, Mr. President, about the latest inflation number, which came out this morning? No, I love it. You know what I really love? I love the inflation. You know why? Because as soon as this war is over.

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Audio shared by Jeez Louize: You know, I can say it now.

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Audio shared by Jeez Louize: Something you didn't know. Do you know we've been taken out?

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Audio shared by Jeez Louize: Millions of barrels of oil.

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Audio shared by Jeez Louize: Nobody knows it. You know who doesn't know about it? Iran, until right now.

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Manny: First of all.

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Jeez Louize: Brett.

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Manny: What? Did he… did he just come…

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Manny: Is that robbery? Is that a war crime?

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Jeez Louize: Hold on, hold on, bro.

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Manny: just…

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Jeez Louize: There's a few things to unpack here, bro. The first thing is… the first thing is this.

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Jeez Louize: Trump doesn't know how to actively listen, because he was already responsible.

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Manny: Not at all.

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Jeez Louize: The homie hadn't even finished his question, so… which he should've stopped, because that got him in a pickle, because then he says, I love inflation, which…

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Jeez Louize: If you… you know what, I ain't gonna say it, because we… we tired of giving, people, the free… the free sauce when it comes to what they need to do, especially from a campaign perspective, but, definitely gave you some material right there.

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Jeez Louize: And…

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Chairman of cHaOs: Hold on, before you go to the next one, Jeezy, and you heard the reporter say, What is it?

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Manny: Let me finish one question. Go ahead, what is it?

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Jeez Louize: Yep.

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Manny: No, he did it like Jeopardy, like, since you already… already talking, go ahead and answer the question.

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Jeez Louize: I'mma go ahead and hit… never mind, here's the leash. I'mma put it in your mouth and let you walk yourself.

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Jeez Louize: So you know where you're going.

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Manny: Since you got your degree and everything.

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Jeez Louize: Yeah, since you know it, since you know it all, since you got your fancy degree and you think you know everything.

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Jeez Louize: But then…

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Jeez Louize: the last… first of all, he didn't even answer it, because he said, I love inflation, he said, I love it because… and he said, wait a minute, did you know this?

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Jeez Louize: And that might have been the moment he woke up when he said, oh, I should have said that. He just throws this bomb out there, this curveball.

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Jeez Louize: That we've been stealing oil from Iran in the middle of the night.

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Manny: Bruh.

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Chairman of cHaOs: First off.

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Manny: So many questions. So many questions, and so few statements.

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Jeez Louize: Ew!

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Chairman of cHaOs: He said that, like, the local crackhead was going around siphoning people's gas. Oh, you know who didn't know about it?

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Manny: You? That's why you went empty.

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Chairman of cHaOs: They don't have…

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Jeez Louize: You're like, I know I filled up yesterday, how did I get… I don't know where I lose a quarter of gas overnight.

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Jeez Louize: Yeah, cause Donnie Team been siphon your gas at your car.

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Manny: But I'm also like, how? Bruh, how? How. Yes.

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Manny: electrope.

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Manny: We are still the U.S. government, we… we still have the abilities, I think, I hope, that other countries don't have, so… what do you say, 100 million? That's not, like, an insignificant amount.

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Jeez Louize: Have you taken…

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Manny: And over the course of how many days at this point? 100… approaching 100 days, if we not already passed 100 days? So I'm just like…

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Chairman of cHaOs: Raise your hand if you believe him.

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Manny: Hmm.

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Jeez Louize: In case you're listening, there are no hands in the air.

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Chairman of cHaOs: We're gonna play the new game, the new game. Speak when you hear a truth from Donald Trump that you believe.

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Chairman of cHaOs: We're stealing oil from Iran.

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Chairman of cHaOs: I love inflation.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Okay, nobody's said anything, exactly.

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Jeez Louize: But the thing that was funny about it, and we'll move on, but…

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Jeez Louize: He said, you know who just found out about it?

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Manny: Iran. Iran! Right now.

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Jeez Louize: Manny just told y'all that that's a…

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Chairman of cHaOs: Right now, this?

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Jeez Louize: significant amount of oil. Can you imagine showing up, and you're like, now, I know we have more barrels of oil than this yesterday.

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Manny: Completely.

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Jeez Louize: You come to court like, man, I know.

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Manny: It's almost like… he said it like it's the… it's the classic sitcom episode where they go on vacation, and they come back in, and everything's missing. Oh, no.

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Manny: Even better.

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Jeez Louize: They just had the Home Alone moment where they realized that they left Kevin at home, and they were sitting…

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Manny: Oh, no.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Where's Kevin?

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Manny: Oh, no, even better. They just had the situation like we did when we got back from Thanksgiving that one year.

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Jeez Louize: Oh, and we got robbed. And we had got robbed.

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Manny: Like…

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Jeez Louize: Right, it took me about 30 minutes walking around, like… Did we get robbed?

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Manny: Right. That's what happened.

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Jeez Louize: That was having our end, they were like, I know we have more oil than this.

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Manny: Someone was their roommate, and left their window unlocked.

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Jeez Louize: Now, if Trump is telling the truth.

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Jeez Louize: Somebody in our area getting fired.

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Manny: Oh, they're getting more than fired.

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Chairman of cHaOs: No, they're not getting fired. This is Iran.

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Chairman of cHaOs: I'm trying to keep it light.

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Chairman of cHaOs: You're getting dismissed. Deleted.

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Jeez Louize: Permanently. Permanently. Now, Trump, the White House later argued that Trump meant that he loved that the number wasn't even worse than expected.

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Jeez Louize: Which…

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Jeez Louize: You might… they probably should have just not said it. This is… this is up there with the level of them saying, oh, he didn't mean that he was, Dr. Trump medicine Jesus. He thought he was, like, a regular doctor.

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Chairman of cHaOs: This says Carolina's still on, maternity leave. Yep.

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Jeez Louize: They suffer without… they suffer without Carol.

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Manny: Bruh.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Because they're just throwing anything out there.

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Jeez Louize: They said, look, they done called her, they done sent her two emails and call her little lip. When you coming back to work?

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Manny: Hey, hey.

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Jeez Louize: We're struggling.

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Manny: If Trump were to… hypothetically, if Trump were to say this, how would you respond?

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Jeez Louize: Bruh, bruh. She's sitting at home rocking that baby, saying, yep.

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Jeez Louize: Pay increase. Yesterday, 9…

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Manny: Yep.

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Jeez Louize: Today's prices, not today's prices.

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Chairman of cHaOs: You see my words now, huh?

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Jeez Louize: So…

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Manny: It's so easy.

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Jeez Louize: Critics immediately jumped on the quote because inflation was one of the issues that Trump campaigned the hardest against. So, the hardest thing that you ran against, you saying that you love.

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Jeez Louize: Not a good look, but Manny, I'll ask you this question first. If you're an administration that spent 2 years blaming inflation on your opponents, can you afford a comment like this, like, you know, that I love inflation, even if you meant something different?

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Manny: I mean, it goes back to what we were saying, it's all going to come down to the spin of it, if you're the Trump administration, and to just say, oh, he meant that he didn't expect it to be higher, like, that's not a good way to spin it. Like, if you were going to talk about that, I think then

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Manny: a better way to deal with this is to pivot about core inflation, and it's like, hey, y'all, we know about, like, the energy prices, and that's what's really driving

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Manny: the 4.2 year-over-year increase. But if you were to circle back, if you take that out and you look at the core month-over-month inflation, because that core inflation number that strips out

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Manny: Energy and other high-volatile, pieces was 2.9, so still coming down, but…

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Manny: It sounds a whole lot better, but you need someone to be able to mentally put together those words in an effective way to convey that message.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Yes, I'm glad you… I'm glad you added that disclaimer at the end, because I was gonna say, hey, brother, you're giving sound advice. You're giving.

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Manny: Fourthright advice.

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Chairman of cHaOs: But that's your brain.

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Jeez Louize: Yeah, Trump ain't about to explain that.

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Manny: And it just… it looks bad. So what, energy prices up 20, 23, almost 24% over the last year, gasoline is up 40% year over year, and fuel oil is up 58%, almost 15, 59%. Like…

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Chairman of cHaOs: I want to, argue those numbers of 50, almost 59… 58, almost 59%, because doggone, what I'm spending at the pump right now, I feel like a thousand percent.

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Manny: I think so.

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Manny: Still, here's the most dangerous piece of it when we look at inflation. It's only going to get worse, because we are only just now starting to feel the initial effects of food prices going up because of the cost of this.

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Manny: Like, so it's going to even keep getting worse. And still, like… like they've said about the infrastructure, the amount of infrastructure that has been permanently destroyed and messed up because of all of this, it's going to take years. I think CNN had an analyst on.

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Manny: That projected that if you want below $3 gas prices like we had earlier this year, we're not going to see them again to 2032.

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Manny: So this… so, there were far… right, there were far better ways to spin this, and they did not.

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Jeez Louize: Definitely might be both. So the challenge is that inflation, you know, for Americans, and why this matters to the average American, this challenge.

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Jeez Louize: Is that inflation isn't just some, economic statistic. You know, when inflation rises, families are feeling it. Like we've mentioned, families feel it at the gas pump, they feel it at the grocery store.

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Jeez Louize: When they're paying their utility bills, right? They feel that pressure, so even if wages are increasing.

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Jeez Louize: inflation just basically eats away at those gains. And, you know, the Federal Reserve now finds itself in a very difficult position, because higher inflation makes interest rate cuts less likely. And that's important, because many Americans are hoping that rates will come down, especially if they're trying to buy a home, or

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Jeez Louize: refinance their mortgages, so at what point do voters, stop looking at who's technically responsible and just simply say, I don't care whose fault it is.

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Jeez Louize: Things just cost too much. Can we fix it?

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Chairman of cHaOs: That's a question… or that's a thought process that's over the head of the average American.

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Chairman of cHaOs: And the reason I say that is because we sit here and we're talking about inflation, and we have a monicum of understanding

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Chairman of cHaOs: They hear the talking points of inflation, they hear the campaign speeches of inflation, but they don't understand the full scope and spectrum of the impact of inflation. So…

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Chairman of cHaOs: are… I think they're already at the point, the civilized thinking individual.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Let's go there. Let's quantify who we're talking about. And we have to do that because… and Mandy, you dropped into our group chat the other day a new breakdown of, labels for, the political

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Chairman of cHaOs: I looked at it at first, and I was like, what in the world? But then as I read them, I said, you know what, this makes sense, because you have your individuals who truly care about

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Chairman of cHaOs: core of what's going on. Then you have the individuals who care on a superficial level. Then you have those individuals who don't care… I'm not gonna say they don't care. They don't care for the huff and the fluff. They want to get to the root of the problem, and as you always say.

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Chairman of cHaOs: But then you have those individuals on the far extreme ends, who, regardless of what is said, if it's not the right side or the left side saying it.

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Manny: I'll want it.

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Chairman of cHaOs: stand beside it. And so, so to this, the everyday man.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Without the labels, without the talking points, are already at a place of…

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Chairman of cHaOs: just get this stuff fixed. I'm spending way too much money. Life… life is costing me way more now than it did… forget years ago, just last year, life is costing more.

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Manny: And to add a little bit more information to what Chuck said, we've shared it on Instagram. The Washington Post did a post that there was a new study that split Americans into 9 political groups. The, sorry, let me… I wanna, I wanna make sure,

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Manny: say all the names correctly. The order and opportunity left, the pragmatic and polite right, the no apologies right, the faith-first conservatives, the unconventional right, the left-out left.

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Chairman of cHaOs: And that tuned out is the ones I think I'm speaking more of, and it's not tuned out from what's going on in the life. I'm tuned out from the rhetoric from both sides.

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Chairman of cHaOs: I don't care about… The lies, the… the banter, the fights, just get it fixed.

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Manny: Fix it.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Just fix it. Why are we dealing with this? Why… why… why is gas prices here? Why… we… we talked about it last week.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Man, I went…

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Chairman of cHaOs: Boy, this pisses me off. I went last… was going the other day, and my wife was like, well, hey, babe, you know, we got a lot going on, we're talking about going to this Fan Fest.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Just grab some of those,

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Chairman of cHaOs: Burger patties that we get, and we'll throw them on in, real quick.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Whip up a meal so we can go about our way, go to the Fan Fest, the Watch Fest for the World Cup.

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Chairman of cHaOs: And I walked by, and them things was $11.

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Manny: $1.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Most $12 for a box?

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Chairman of cHaOs: I was like, the… I… I always say just the other day. It could have been 10 years ago, but it was just the…

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Manny: But it was yesterday. It was yesterday.

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Chairman of cHaOs: I was like, just the other day, these was, like, 6, 7 bucks.

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Chairman of cHaOs: And so when I got home, I was like, babe, I picked up Bronx instead, because…

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Chairman of cHaOs: Them things was almost $12. I was like, wasn't they cheaper than that? She was like, yeah, they used to be about $7. I said, okay, I thought so.

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Chairman of cHaOs: And legitimately, I would say probably last year, even if it's 2 years.

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Chairman of cHaOs: I'm tuned out from… I'm tuned out from your talking points.

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Manny: And I think a key point on that, and I'll speak about us, all of us get to work on that grill.

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Manny: Oh, yeah. So, for all of our listeners, if you have a friend that invites you over for a cookout.

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Manny: Go ahead and, either queue up some cash for them, or get ready to bring some sides.

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Jeez Louize: Banks.

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Manny: Yes, sir. Let me say, okay.

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Jeez Louize: It's no longer acceptable to show up to the cookout with sodas.

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Manny: Oh, with soda, with plates.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Lee.

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Jeez Louize: Complete, no.

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Chairman of cHaOs: I have a dish… I have a dishwasher, and my wife… my wife has an affliction that has come over her over the years, where she likes to…

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Chairman of cHaOs: Re… Not recycle, but change out.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Our eatery every couple years, so we got… we got plenty of plates.

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Chairman of cHaOs: We don't need no… we don't need no paper plates, no styrofoam cups.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Bring some sides.

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Manny: Bring some sides.

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Manny: Unless directed otherwise. But then, GZ, another point that you brought up that I think is also a turning point in this administration that came out this week is that inflation has gone up so much that it has wiped out all wage growth that has.

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Manny: in this administration.

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Manny: a raise last year? As of right now.

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Manny: It didn't, it, nothing happened.

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Jeez Louize: means absolutely nothing.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Especially if you only got a 3% raise.

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Manny: Oh, yeah.

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Manny: 3 or under, they… they did nothing for you.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Nothing for you, but waste your time.

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Manny: Right. So, and…

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Manny: Yeah.

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Chairman of cHaOs: You make a fantastic point there, and Jeezy kind of mentioned the crunch that it puts the fed in.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Kevin Warsh just took over.

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Manny: Just took over.

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Manny: And we know what his directive is.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Zach, that's exactly what I love. You know why Trump put him in place, but guess what? He's in the tough pickle of doing.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Running them… running them rates up.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Realistically, the, the, the one… hire that Trump has done, who… I'm not gonna say the one.

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Chairman of cHaOs: the most qualified hire that I've seen him put forth, and the nomination he put forth.

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Chairman of cHaOs: was Kevin Walsh, because Kevin Warsh had been a part of the Fed, as we, you know, laid out before. So he's a man who knows the job.

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Chairman of cHaOs: He knows he's in a position where, hmm…

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Chairman of cHaOs: I know what you want done!

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Chairman of cHaOs: But my sensibility and my background and my education tells me.

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Manny: It ain't happening. And he's gotta… he's gotta convince a group of people

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Manny: That are as smart as him, that this is a good idea.

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Chairman of cHaOs: But if I'm not mistaken.

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Jeez Louize: said in a previous episode, with, Jerome still around the.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Oh yeah, Jerome's still around. Jerome's still around. But here's where I'll give…

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Chairman of cHaOs: Kevin washes flowers, because he stands on the principle, on his economic principles.

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Chairman of cHaOs: And even… even when he was there before, and in leaving his criticisms of Jerome, his criticisms was based on his economic belief system. It wasn't…

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Chairman of cHaOs: I don't like him because he's not doing XYZ. He always provided the economic framework of his argument. And in that.

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Chairman of cHaOs: That leads me to believe that he is one who is operating on those economic principles.

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Manny: Kevin obviously wants to do it, but he… what he has at least shown up to this point, and we'll see how this plays out, that he's not going to force it if it's not aligning with what his beliefs are.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Sure was.

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Manny: Kinda like somebody else that… Donald Trump appointed to be the Fed Chair.

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Manny: And got real upset about it.

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Manny: Yeah, so, I think the other key part is inflation being under 3% still means prices are going up.

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Manny: And, like, I feel like that… oh, inflation was 2.9%, okay, not as bad, but guess what? Prices all went up 2.9%.

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Manny: Until you see a negative number, Prices are going up.

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Chairman of cHaOs: And what hasn't fully been talked about is the jobs numbers.

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Chairman of cHaOs: And those job numbers are coming back.

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Chairman of cHaOs: I'm not gonna say strong, But stronger than expected.

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Chairman of cHaOs: It is, very much so, but what… what strong job numbers Due to inflation, It's push it up.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Because guess what… what strong job numbers should… in theory.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Strong job numbers say people are employed.

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Chairman of cHaOs: These people get paychecks.

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Manny: Got money to spend.

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Chairman of cHaOs: People spends money.

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Chairman of cHaOs: And when you spend money, you generally have higher demand, Lower supply.

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Chairman of cHaOs: And when you have higher demand and lower supply, Prices go up.

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Manny: I felt like I heard that… that before, and like…

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Jeez Louize: Basic activity.

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Manny: economics class.

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Jeez Louize: I believe so.

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Chairman of cHaOs: But most people fell asleep. I told y'all… What did my post say? What did my post say? All these people on Facebook talking about economics, and they can get at least a C.

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Manny: Did Schoolhouse Rock do a, an entire episode on supply and demand? Because, you know what? We need Schoolhouse Rock back.

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Jeez Louize: We were a proper people.

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Chairman of cHaOs: When a little cartoon piece of paper rolled up.

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Chairman of cHaOs: bounced around on our TV screen, telling us, educating us, and informing us about the basic aspects of life.

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Jeez Louize: Yep.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Government?

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Chairman of cHaOs: in economics.

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Jeez Louize: We are proper people, brother.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Yes, sir.

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Jeez Louize: Ma, how far we have strayed.

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Jeez Louize: Now, here's where the story gets complicated. Despite inflation concerns, Wall Street has remained surprisingly, resilient. Markets have been bouncing around between fears of higher inflation and optimism surrounding, artificial intelligence.

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Jeez Louize: corporate earnings and continued economic growth. And, some major indexes have continued, pushing towards record territory, while investors are also watching the Federal Reserve

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Jeez Louize: closely for any signal about future interest rates. And the market is essentially asking one question. Is this inflation temporary, or is it the beginning of another sustained climb? Because if inflation keeps rising, borrowing costs stay higher, and that puts pressure on both consumers and corporations, as our brother Chuck has already told you.

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Jeez Louize: So, Manny, do you think Wall Street

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Manny: I think it is a disconnect, because I don't believe the stock market represents the true economy.

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Manny: Like, the amount of people who are directly invested in the stock market, if you take out the 401Ks, very low.

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Manny: Very low. Even if you add in the 401Ks, I think it…

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Chairman of cHaOs: Baby.

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Manny: maybe gets to 40, maybe get close to 50%. Most people are not invested in the stock market.

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Chairman of cHaOs: But even those in the 401K, man, they… 80% of them don't even know what they're doing, or what is even going on with their 401 . That's it, just vibing.

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Manny: that can relate to the public at large. Because, from my standpoint, my view of it, you talk about these issues in relation to your experience with them.

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Jeez Louize: Mmm.

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Jeez Louize: True.

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Manny: And Trump… has always been rich. I won't say he's always… no.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Yes, he is.

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Manny: That is right.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Trump is always.

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Manny: It's been reviewed.

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Jeez Louize: If you Google Trump on his Wikipedia page, the first thing he says, born into a wealthy family from New York.

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Manny: So, when you've always been rich, your views of…

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Manny: The economy and how it's impacting you are… are shaped by that.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Yes.

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Manny: So, if you have a bunch of money.

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Manny: getting a Big Mac when it was $2, and getting it now when it's approaching $9, $10, still is not going to really register to you, because you've had that amount of wealth. So we talk about the economy using

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Manny: Using data points that are to those who are wealthy.

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Manny: Not the actual reality.

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Manny: So that's piece one, and I think piece two is I feel like the stock market only looks good, and I'll say this, this is not investment advice, that…

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Chairman of cHaOs: This is for informational purposes?

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Manny: Informational and entertainment purposes only.

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Manny: Now that we got that out the way.

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Manny: If you look at the market.

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Manny: some of the other industries are not doing well. Like, a lot of the positivity.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Yeah, we're seeing in.

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Manny: market is coming out of tech, and largely, even more specifically, AI.

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Manny: So, is the market actually doing that good?

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Manny: I… I don't know, like, because it… but when you conflate the two together.

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Manny: It doesn't give you a good and accurate representation of what's happening.

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Manny: And how people need to deal with this. Oh, the stock market's at $50,000. What does that mean for the fact that I just paid… Right, I just paid $70 to fill my car when it used to cost me $30,000. Like…

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Manny: Being able to have those common conversations becomes harder.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Yep.

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Manny: So… yeah. Yeah.

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Chairman of cHaOs: I agree a million percent, brother. Quite honestly, the individual who works on Wall Street.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Not the help on Wall Street.

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Chairman of cHaOs: the individual who works on Wall Street.

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Chairman of cHaOs: can't relate.

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Chairman of cHaOs: To the common family.

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Chairman of cHaOs: The circles they run in, The amount of money they deal with, the amount of money they make.

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Chairman of cHaOs: is well above… the average American.

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Chairman of cHaOs: And, as Manny said, the stock market has been running up

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Chairman of cHaOs: for years now. We've talked about a correction, With the markets before, and… Again, the average family…

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Chairman of cHaOs: has no idea what the correction would mean. All they hear are the talking points that are put forth by the news stations, the politicians, the analysts.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Shoot the podcasters.

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Chairman of cHaOs: That's what they know, and there's no slight or knock to them.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Some of this stuff, if you have not…

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Chairman of cHaOs: Allocated the time to be able to sit down and fully engulf yourself to understand

383
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Chairman of cHaOs: It's like speaking another language to them.

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Manny: Yeah.

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Chairman of cHaOs: All I see, oh, the Dow Jones. Oh, the stock market went up.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Okay, it's up 50… 50,000 points.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Meaning what?

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Chairman of cHaOs: You know, or my favorite, my favorite, to hear from someone, well, how do I get in the stock market?

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Chairman of cHaOs: As if it's…

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Chairman of cHaOs: some back room or speakeasy that I need an invitation, you know? And that, like I said, that's no slight to anybody. It just speaks to the disillusion of…

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Chairman of cHaOs: Of those sitting high, looking low, that can… will say, well, the economy is…

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Chairman of cHaOs: Doing well because the market is up.

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Chairman of cHaOs: No, the economy is not doing well.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Because the average American

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Chairman of cHaOs: You can't go to the grocery store and see the true value in spending $100 and then leaving out with 3 bags.

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Manny: I went to…

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Chairman of cHaOs: No, my… real quick, man.

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Manny: Yeah, no, no, no.

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Chairman of cHaOs: I went to one of… My family's, favorite spots.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Shoot, just last night.

401
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Chairman of cHaOs: And bought everybody food.

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Chairman of cHaOs: In my family of four, What normally would cost us $55, Cost me $92 last night.

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Manny: No.

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Chairman of cHaOs: $92… for 3 po' boys, Fries in a shrimp basket.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Because they've gone up on price.

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Manny: Yeah.

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Chairman of cHaOs: They've gone up on their prices because things are costing them more money.

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Manny: Things are more money. There's… the… the jobs part of it is…

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Manny: what, I think there were about 97,000 US jobs announced in May 2026, so just recently, so it's the third month of monthly rise.

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Manny: But now, they're… we're starting to see more cuts, and the cuts are one of the leading reasons. So…

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Chairman of cHaOs: Yeah. I'm glad you said.

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Manny: is AI. So… and… either the reason is AI, so Andy Challenger,

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Manny: came out and say, AI is now the leading reasons companies give for cutting jobs, and the primary industry citing is… it's in technology.

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Manny: And then, Daniel Zhao, Chief Economic… God, why can I not say that word? He know the economy. He's the chief of knowing the economy for Glassdoor.

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Manny: So, he said, a company can say AI is why we're doing layoffs, but that doesn't necessarily mean that's actually why. So, we have companies who are cutting jobs, and it's really not because of AI, because they haven't gotten their processes better, it's not because they're making… they're being more efficient.

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Manny: is because they're probably doing bad, but publicly, it makes them look good, say, hey, we're bringing in AI, and that's really gonna help advance us, and it's not.

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Manny: So now you have… and it's.

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Chairman of cHaOs: It becomes.

419
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Manny: It's like a vicious cycle.

420
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Chairman of cHaOs: Or… They reported profits previously.

421
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Chairman of cHaOs: And they know that they're doing bad.

422
00:36:05.950 --> 00:36:07.799
Chairman of cHaOs: So let's try to get ahead of this.

423
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Chairman of cHaOs: And keep that bottom line black instead of red. Yep. To continue to deceive investors, watch this callback to keep the stock price high.

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Manny: Yep.

425
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Chairman of cHaOs: Make the market look good.

426
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Manny: We have 3 things that are converging all at the same time.

427
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Manny: the Iran war reigniting, because who knows what happens with that.

428
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Manny: The AI bubble allegedly could deflate at any moment.

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Manny: And the Fed could potentially just turn hawkish if inflation caused by the Iran war and the AI layoffs really start ramping up. Like, all of these things are moving and could potentially happen at the same time. And if all of them do happen at the same time.

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Manny: What's anyone going to be able to do?

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Chairman of cHaOs: Crah.

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Manny: Honestly.

433
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Chairman of cHaOs: But to bring it back to the beginning, what started this segment off.

434
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Chairman of cHaOs: Again, I'm glad you said that, Manny, about the Iran war.

435
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Chairman of cHaOs: Hey, Trump.

436
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Chairman of cHaOs: You can't blame this on Sleepy Joe.

437
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Manny: It's been a year plus.

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Chairman of cHaOs: You're running these numbers up, buddy. And a lot of this inflationary action is based off the uncertainty that is going on overseas. And as we've seen time and time again, as we move closer to what we may think is a semblance of a peace deal.

439
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Chairman of cHaOs: Things start to calm.

440
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Chairman of cHaOs: Oil prices start to come down, the markets start to respond accordingly.

441
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Chairman of cHaOs: And just as soon as your little homie, old Netanyahu.

442
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Chairman of cHaOs: Start acting stupid. Because you got in bed with him, To get this mess going.

443
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Chairman of cHaOs: It's the reverse.

444
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Chairman of cHaOs: Every time.

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Manny: Every time.

446
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Chairman of cHaOs: And those jobs numbers that you was talking about, Manny, it's funny because…

447
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Chairman of cHaOs: I don't trust those numbers either.

448
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Chairman of cHaOs: Because unemployment stays still.

449
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Manny: Yep.

450
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Jeez Louize: It's dead.

451
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:16.749
Chairman of cHaOs: It did not move.

452
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Chairman of cHaOs: Didn't go up, didn't go down.

453
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Chairman of cHaOs: And you would think, conventional wisdom would tell me.

454
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Chairman of cHaOs: If we had consecutive months of job growth.

455
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Chairman of cHaOs: Unemployment should move.

456
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Chairman of cHaOs: In a direction that is more favor… that is more favorable to your messaging.

457
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Jeez Louize: Yep.

458
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Chairman of cHaOs: But it hasn't moved.

459
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Chairman of cHaOs: Something right. Someday right. And these companies are announcing cuts and layoffs.

460
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Chairman of cHaOs: Left and right in the funny… not the funny thing… What the crazy thing is…

461
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Chairman of cHaOs: All of them are not immediate… effective immediately.

462
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Chairman of cHaOs: They're a month or so down the line. So when all of these… Come to a head?

463
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Chairman of cHaOs: And we tally up all these numbers?

464
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Chairman of cHaOs: It's not gonna be a pretty sight.

465
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Jeez Louize: Sounds like a cold winter, brother.

466
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Manny: Meh.

467
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Jeez Louize: Well, I want to move on in this topic, and bring up a name that we haven't talked about in a while, and that is…

468
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Jeez Louize: Elon Musk.

469
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Jeez Louize: This week, Elon Musk reportedly crossed the trillion dollar mark in net worth, driven largely by the explosive valuation of his companies, particularly SpaceX. SpaceX's public debut valued the company at roughly $2.1 trillion.

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Jeez Louize: dollars, making it one of the most valuable companies on the planet almost overnight. And when you think about that for a second.

471
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Jeez Louize: it's pretty crazy, because most people struggle to even visualize a billion dollars. Most people have never even seen a million dollars, let alone

472
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Jeez Louize: thinking of a billion dollars, that's wealth on a scale that's, for most, is difficult to comprehend. So, when you think about that… go ahead, Manny. Were you about to say something?

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Manny: Yeah, and to think of the scale, like, if you're…

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Manny: next time I coach a sports team, I'm gonna tell them I want them to run up the score like Elon Musk, because the gap… the gap between Elon and the number two person on the world's wealthiest list is larger than the gap

475
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Manny: from Elon… from the number 2 person to us. It is larger than the gap.

476
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Jeez Louize: I was gonna say pause on that, but it's June.

477
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Manny: Just…

478
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Jeez Louize: But.

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Chairman of cHaOs: No, the gap is good.

480
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Jeez Louize: Now, what he talking about two memes.

481
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Chairman of cHaOs: You're right, you're right.

482
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Chairman of cHaOs: I know where my mind went, and it wants you in.

483
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Manny: But when you think about it, it's a lot of money.

484
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Jeez Louize: The scale of that. I mean, that is a lot of money, Maddie. I mean, and especially…

485
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Jeez Louize: to what Chuck had said earlier.

486
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Jeez Louize: You know, for those Americans that are struggling, when you hear that an individual

487
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Jeez Louize: has that amount of wealth, right? And you're sitting here, and you're doing the best you can to rub two pennies together.

488
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Jeez Louize: I mean, the disconnect, you just, you know, most can't comprehend, let alone even understand, how in the world can someone have that amount of wealth?

489
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Jeez Louize: But then we, as the common Americans, or most Americans, are struggling just

490
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Jeez Louize: to fill the tank, just to fill… I was at the pump the other day, and I seen a video on social media that… I laughed at it, but… because it was funny in the social media clip, but then I just happened to be at the gas station filling up my wife's car.

491
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Jeez Louize: And… I looked at the pump, bruh.

492
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Jeez Louize: And somebody put in, like, $3.11.

493
00:42:03.200 --> 00:42:08.680
Jeez Louize: And I was sitting there like… Bro, that's literally a gallon of gas, bro.

494
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Chairman of cHaOs: To get back to the…

495
00:42:09.940 --> 00:42:13.100
Jeez Louize: About a gallon. And I'm sitting there, like…

496
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Jeez Louize: the reality of that is, like, that wasn't something that, oh, I just, you know, I don't like my tank, not being a full, so I just put another 3 to get it. No, like, somebody was like, look, this is just enough to get me to maybe home.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Yes, sir.

498
00:42:26.520 --> 00:42:39.079
Jeez Louize: get something to eat and get back home, and then I gotta wait a few days till either my check come in, or I get some more money. That is a reality for a lot… a lot of people. And when you hear somebody with the magnitude of wealth like Elon Musk, I mean…

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Jeez Louize: I can only imagine that can't make you feel good as an American, knowing that that amount of wealth is even out there and can't even be comprehended, but…

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Jeez Louize: when you think about Elon and this, are we witnessing one of the greatest business success stories in modern history, or should people be concerned about that much economic power being concentrated into one individual?

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Jeez Louize: I'll ask you to, start with you, Chuck.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Well, my good brother, I'm not sure.

503
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Chairman of cHaOs: You had a chance to listen to last week's episode.

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Manny: Hmm.

505
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Chairman of cHaOs: Because my spotlight… was on the SpaceX IPO.

506
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Chairman of cHaOs: And although I did not specifically single out Elon Musk.

507
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Chairman of cHaOs: And the potential wealth of this.

508
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Chairman of cHaOs: Yes. This is… was a… this was encompassed in that.

509
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Jeez Louize: Ayyy.

510
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Chairman of cHaOs: Double entendre, don't even ask me how. But to answer your question first, before I go on the diatribe…

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Chairman of cHaOs: Yeah, you should be concerned.

512
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Chairman of cHaOs: You should be concerned because of the makeup and character of the individual.

513
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Chairman of cHaOs: Who has all this wealth?

514
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Chairman of cHaOs: In all this power.

515
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Chairman of cHaOs: And I can say that ba- I can say that based off of what he has shown us.

516
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Chairman of cHaOs: No, I don't know him personally.

517
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Chairman of cHaOs: I've only seen this man from afar.

518
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Chairman of cHaOs: But everything that he has shown me has shown that he, number one, is not to be trusted.

519
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Chairman of cHaOs: Number two, does not care for anyone other than himself.

520
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Chairman of cHaOs: You can see that in his interaction with the mother of his children.

521
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Jeez Louize: Oh, bruh, yes.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Like, so, when I say this, It was very…

523
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Chairman of cHaOs: it wasn't shocking to me. I did that as my spotlight for a reason, because there was a lot of talk about this IPO. And I knew it would go above and beyond

524
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Chairman of cHaOs: What was projected, because nobody Nobody projected $250 billion.

525
00:45:01.490 --> 00:45:08.440
Chairman of cHaOs: of… I can't even talk… funding that was raised.

526
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Chairman of cHaOs: Off of $75 billion.

527
00:45:11.150 --> 00:45:15.410
Chairman of cHaOs: Nobody expected that much. You… nobody could have predicted that much.

528
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Manny: 19% is wild.

529
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Chairman of cHaOs: For a one-day pop. Yes, for a one-day pop. Nobody can predict that.

530
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Chairman of cHaOs: But in this… I want us to realize this is on paper.

531
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Chairman of cHaOs: He didn't…

532
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Chairman of cHaOs: This is not actualized wealth. And I say that because a lot of this wealth is tied to the price of the stock, and as I told y'all last week, he holds 85% voting power, meaning he carries the single largest… The decision.

533
00:45:49.770 --> 00:45:59.939
Chairman of cHaOs: portion of stock ownership, and he carries the decision-making power of this. And he's trying to leverage this SpaceX stock

534
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Chairman of cHaOs: on the back of XAI… well, it's on the back of Starlink, but he's… he's betting on XAI, is what he's betting on, because the AI race is up.

535
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Chairman of cHaOs: And people can say, oh, but Starlink is the only one that's profitable right now. Yeah, because there was an influx of users and the different deals that he's made. But what people don't realize is…

536
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Chairman of cHaOs: the, foundation of SpaceX is based off government contracts.

537
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Chairman of cHaOs: So… In the next couple of years.

538
00:46:40.130 --> 00:46:42.960
Chairman of cHaOs: Trump has already… had already threatened this.

539
00:46:43.390 --> 00:46:45.720
Chairman of cHaOs: But pissed Trump off when they pulled their contracts.

540
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Chairman of cHaOs: What happens to that stock valuation?

541
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Manny: Or just national priority shift. Like, this whole going… Artemis, we no longer really want to focus on Artemis and going to the Moon and Mars. We've already seen the pivot away from Mars very quietly.

542
00:47:01.210 --> 00:47:09.730
Chairman of cHaOs: No, that wasn't… that wasn't quiet. That was very… Right. It was loud, but it's so much other stuff that's going on. Yep.

543
00:47:09.730 --> 00:47:10.200
Manny: True.

544
00:47:10.200 --> 00:47:23.409
Chairman of cHaOs: It's kind of like being at a basketball game, and you're yelling to the top of your lungs, but they're blaring the team, the Just Dance song, over the VA system, so nobody…

545
00:47:23.410 --> 00:47:24.460
Manny: Hey, no one hear you.

546
00:47:24.460 --> 00:47:30.420
Chairman of cHaOs: Or they're blowing a whistle, and the crowd is so raucous that they can't hear it. But, in this.

547
00:47:31.250 --> 00:47:36.670
Chairman of cHaOs: This company's foundation is based off of government contracts.

548
00:47:38.620 --> 00:47:48.949
Chairman of cHaOs: let something happen. I mean, and this is… of course, this is with any company, but it's more… it's more of a fragile state when the…

549
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:55.620
Chairman of cHaOs: majority of… Your money that you're bringing in, is…

550
00:47:55.820 --> 00:47:59.400
Chairman of cHaOs: Essentially, all your eggs is… majority of your eggs is in one basket.

551
00:47:59.400 --> 00:47:59.940
Manny: Yeah.

552
00:48:00.950 --> 00:48:05.899
Chairman of cHaOs: And… if that basket unravels or has a hole in it.

553
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:06.960
Jeez Louize: Boy.

554
00:48:08.730 --> 00:48:12.060
Chairman of cHaOs: You gonna be scrambling to get… pick your eggs up.

555
00:48:12.060 --> 00:48:21.500
Manny: And I think the other part about the IPO, we talk about Elon, but there were about 4,000 other people that had a fantastic Friday becoming millionaires.

556
00:48:21.500 --> 00:48:27.800
Chairman of cHaOs: Listen, I, I told, I told in the spotlight, there's gonna be a bunch of money made.

557
00:48:28.510 --> 00:48:33.269
Chairman of cHaOs: a ton of money. There's still gonna… there's still money to be made.

558
00:48:33.930 --> 00:48:42.109
Chairman of cHaOs: But you have to be careful. You have to understand what you're doing, in that, but to the nature of…

559
00:48:42.790 --> 00:48:51.300
Chairman of cHaOs: what we're looking at with this IPO, Manny just said, the… the glamour of AI?

560
00:48:52.630 --> 00:48:55.000
Chairman of cHaOs: The luster is starting to dull a little bit.

561
00:48:55.560 --> 00:49:06.859
Chairman of cHaOs: Because some costs are running up, people are getting sick and tired of the negative environmental impacts that are happening to their communities with these data centers.

562
00:49:06.890 --> 00:49:20.839
Chairman of cHaOs: These… these governments are being put to the… these local governments are being put to the fire by their constituents over these data center deals, and now these companies are scrambling, trying to figure out

563
00:49:21.310 --> 00:49:24.420
Chairman of cHaOs: how to… move forward.

564
00:49:24.660 --> 00:49:25.960
Manny: How am I gonna get this?

565
00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:26.510
Chairman of cHaOs: get to the…

566
00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:33.960
Manny: How am I gonna get this billions of dollars of investments for something that's going to be obsolete as soon as I build it?

567
00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:39.150
Chairman of cHaOs: Yeah, brother, brother, bruh… it's no different than the computer.

568
00:49:39.300 --> 00:49:46.510
Chairman of cHaOs: Yeah. We… when I was growing up, the computers were the… well, right before I…

569
00:49:46.660 --> 00:49:50.860
Chairman of cHaOs: Well, when I was born, early years, the computers were the size of a room.

570
00:49:51.370 --> 00:49:56.279
Chairman of cHaOs: As I got into school, they got much smaller, but they were huge. They took up the whole desk.

571
00:49:56.810 --> 00:49:59.430
Chairman of cHaOs: Yep. Now we hold a computer in our hand.

572
00:49:59.650 --> 00:50:03.600
Chairman of cHaOs: Some people have a computer around their face and glasses.

573
00:50:04.570 --> 00:50:10.559
Manny: With more processing power than what we included in the original Apollo missions that went to the moon.

574
00:50:10.900 --> 00:50:11.630
Chairman of cHaOs: Yes.

575
00:50:11.630 --> 00:50:12.110
Jeez Louize: Alleged.

576
00:50:12.110 --> 00:50:12.720
Chairman of cHaOs: So…

577
00:50:12.720 --> 00:50:19.330
Manny: I knew it was coming, I knew it was coming.

578
00:50:19.330 --> 00:50:20.460
Jeez Louize: That was a lot.

579
00:50:20.460 --> 00:50:28.640
Chairman of cHaOs: So with that, like Manny said, these data centers will be obsolete in not even 5 years.

580
00:50:28.640 --> 00:50:41.839
Chairman of cHaOs: So now you have this big shell of a building that they can't even use… they're… they… not can't use, they're not using anymore, and a lot of them will be abandoned. Because what I love to hear…

581
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Chairman of cHaOs: in their marketing pitch is, oh, all the money we can bring in the area, all the jobs. Well, when the construction is over, and these are unmanned data centers.

582
00:50:53.040 --> 00:50:54.490
Manny: Got 12 people in there.

583
00:50:54.490 --> 00:50:58.609
Chairman of cHaOs: You got a million square miles… square feet.

584
00:50:58.900 --> 00:50:59.860
Chairman of cHaOs: Building.

585
00:50:59.970 --> 00:51:05.170
Chairman of cHaOs: 12 people in it, who are on a, two-shift rotation.

586
00:51:07.110 --> 00:51:09.889
Chairman of cHaOs: What jobs? Because now this building is over.

587
00:51:11.410 --> 00:51:12.540
Chairman of cHaOs: Well, and I think the…

588
00:51:12.540 --> 00:51:24.649
Manny: The other piece about the IPO that was so interesting is that if you just take the general news about the market based on Friday, a lot of the conversation was just about

589
00:51:24.990 --> 00:51:29.560
Manny: What's… oh, space, sorry, the name's slipping ahead.

590
00:51:29.560 --> 00:51:33.420
Chairman of cHaOs: And that's what… because that's what drove the market on Friday.

591
00:51:33.430 --> 00:51:33.940
Manny: Whoa.

592
00:51:33.940 --> 00:51:42.009
Chairman of cHaOs: Because the beginning of the week… real quick, the beginning of the week, it was down. And the chip…

593
00:51:42.650 --> 00:51:46.710
Chairman of cHaOs: sector… Fail almost 20% in 2 days.

594
00:51:46.710 --> 00:51:47.320
Manny: Yeah.

595
00:51:47.590 --> 00:52:00.130
Manny: And the bleeding continued. The Dow on Friday lost almost 700 points, the S&P was down 2.6, and the NASDAQ was down 4%.

596
00:52:00.130 --> 00:52:13.300
Manny: But if you just look at the reporting, the reporting was just largely about, SpaceX and its IPO, and if you think that the value of the stock market is this single stock, then you just.

597
00:52:13.300 --> 00:52:14.340
Chairman of cHaOs: Are you a loss.

598
00:52:14.340 --> 00:52:24.840
Manny: Yeah, you just missed the fact that this Friday was the worst single day since April 2025, when we had the original tariff fall out.

599
00:52:25.210 --> 00:52:33.669
Manny: So, are things healthy? No. Is it healthy for someone to be a trillionaire? I mean…

600
00:52:34.900 --> 00:52:37.279
Chairman of cHaOs: There's people who argue against billionaires.

601
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:38.110
Manny: Right.

602
00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:39.340
Jeez Louize: Yep.

603
00:52:39.690 --> 00:52:40.500
Manny: So…

604
00:52:40.500 --> 00:52:40.930
Jeez Louize: Buck?

605
00:52:41.040 --> 00:52:46.830
Manny: What I'm expecting to happen is that the conversation will likely intensify.

606
00:52:47.430 --> 00:52:50.149
Manny: Around, what do we do?

607
00:52:50.730 --> 00:53:00.860
Manny: how do… they're going to figure out a way to eventually tax unrealized gain loss. Like, I… there's too much conversation, and the numbers are getting too big.

608
00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:07.149
Manny: For the conversation not to become more materialized over the next couple years.

609
00:53:07.310 --> 00:53:08.379
Chairman of cHaOs: But then he comes back…

610
00:53:08.380 --> 00:53:10.080
Manny: For what you're doing with it.

611
00:53:10.310 --> 00:53:18.629
Chairman of cHaOs: I might have to give you some pushback on that, not the way that these… the only reason I'm giving pushback right now is because we don't have any…

612
00:53:19.220 --> 00:53:35.379
Chairman of cHaOs: true, laws or regulations against the insider trading that these jokers are doing in Congress. Yeah. Now, if we… if we… if we had some kind of regulatory…

613
00:53:35.400 --> 00:53:40.670
Chairman of cHaOs: Guidelines going on about their trading habits and trading behaviors.

614
00:53:41.150 --> 00:53:48.030
Chairman of cHaOs: I agree with you a thousand percent. Yep. Because what they're not gonna do is allow you to run up the score, and them not…

615
00:53:48.030 --> 00:53:49.940
Manny: And then not run him to score, too.

616
00:53:49.940 --> 00:53:54.489
Chairman of cHaOs: Exactly. But while they're running up the score right now…

617
00:53:54.890 --> 00:53:55.420
Manny: Yeah.

618
00:53:55.770 --> 00:53:56.440
Chairman of cHaOs: Yeah.

619
00:53:56.440 --> 00:54:05.249
Manny: I mean, to put in perspective for you guys at home, there are only 19 countries that have GDPs that surpass $1 trillion.

620
00:54:08.470 --> 00:54:09.160
Chairman of cHaOs: Yeah.

621
00:54:11.380 --> 00:54:12.320
Chairman of cHaOs: Yeah.

622
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:17.149
Jeez Louize: Well, I think when you… it's a definitely crazy amount, so…

623
00:54:17.600 --> 00:54:20.280
Jeez Louize: We… to tie all this together, and to bring it all together…

624
00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:25.520
Jeez Louize: you know, on one side, Americans are hearing inflation is back above 4%.

625
00:54:26.500 --> 00:54:28.949
Jeez Louize: Gas prices are climbing.

626
00:54:29.150 --> 00:54:35.459
Jeez Louize: And from what it looks like, and if, Kevin sticks to his economic, morals.

627
00:54:35.610 --> 00:54:38.619
Jeez Louize: The feds may be keeping rates higher for longer.

628
00:54:38.820 --> 00:54:50.470
Jeez Louize: But on the other side, stock market remains strong, AI investments continue pouring in, and Elon Musk has become the first person to reach a level of wealth that some would say sounds like science fiction 20 years ago.

629
00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:59.039
Jeez Louize: So the real debate isn't whether the economy is good or bad, it's… it's for whom? Who is it good or bad for?

630
00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:09.670
Jeez Louize: Because if you're heavily invested in the market, this economy may look pretty good to you. But if you're just trying to, afford groceries, afford rent.

631
00:55:10.080 --> 00:55:12.590
Jeez Louize: Fill up your gas tank.

632
00:55:13.040 --> 00:55:18.450
Jeez Louize: You may be wondering what everyone on Wall Street is actually celebrating for.

633
00:55:18.720 --> 00:55:22.749
Jeez Louize: So, to round this segment up, I'll ask this to both of you.

634
00:55:23.430 --> 00:55:31.330
Jeez Louize: When historians look back on this period, and you can define this period in your response.

635
00:55:31.830 --> 00:55:35.440
Jeez Louize: Do they describe it as an economic boom?

636
00:55:35.650 --> 00:55:43.990
Jeez Louize: Or as an era where the gains were increasingly concentrated at the top, while average Americans struggled.

637
00:55:44.340 --> 00:55:47.999
Jeez Louize: To keep up. Now go with, you starting first, Manny.

638
00:55:49.090 --> 00:55:52.469
Manny: I, I think it's… I think it's going to depend.

639
00:55:52.580 --> 00:56:03.220
Manny: what… what is the reaction to this? You know, the… they say the decision is easy to make. Living through the consequences of that decision is hard.

640
00:56:03.780 --> 00:56:10.390
Manny: And… A lot of it's going to boil down to what is their reaction?

641
00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:16.940
Manny: Because usually, if times are good for everybody, you kind of can get away with a whole lot more.

642
00:56:17.780 --> 00:56:19.200
Manny: Times are not good.

643
00:56:19.380 --> 00:56:21.640
Manny: Or at least as good as they had been.

644
00:56:22.640 --> 00:56:30.429
Manny: So, what is the reaction to this? Now that we have a trillionaire, now that we have booming markets for the rich?

645
00:56:31.010 --> 00:56:33.130
Manny: What is the reaction to this?

646
00:56:33.660 --> 00:56:39.219
Manny: And I think that is going to be what historians really dig into.

647
00:56:39.730 --> 00:56:41.800
Manny: And at this point, I don't know.

648
00:56:42.020 --> 00:56:45.799
Manny: But what I do know is that we have an election in a couple months.

649
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:51.310
Manny: And… there's likely to be a reaction that we see at the ballot box.

650
00:56:54.870 --> 00:56:59.410
Chairman of cHaOs: Will… My answer is… The top?

651
00:56:59.900 --> 00:57:01.160
Chairman of cHaOs: Stay rich.

652
00:57:02.160 --> 00:57:05.219
Chairman of cHaOs: The top… Keeps the lower half from getting rich.

653
00:57:05.570 --> 00:57:11.319
Chairman of cHaOs: And I say that… and I'll take this era… Back to…

654
00:57:12.600 --> 00:57:14.090
Chairman of cHaOs: We'll call it the Trump era.

655
00:57:14.440 --> 00:57:18.100
Chairman of cHaOs: And being that… his.

656
00:57:18.100 --> 00:57:21.040
Manny: Trump era, like, 16, or…

657
00:57:21.040 --> 00:57:38.339
Chairman of cHaOs: Yeah, yeah, I'm bringing it… I'm saying, in this era, his first administration sandwiching Joe Biden in this last administration, as the historians, because honestly, it's gonna be… they're… they are…

658
00:57:39.850 --> 00:57:41.380
Chairman of cHaOs: Tied together forever.

659
00:57:41.690 --> 00:57:42.130
Manny: Yep.

660
00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:48.910
Chairman of cHaOs: Be it from a carryover from the Obama administration into…

661
00:57:49.010 --> 00:57:59.610
Chairman of cHaOs: Joe Biden being in between the Trump administrations, they're forever tied together. So, I'll take the error as historians will look back from the Trump era.

662
00:58:00.550 --> 00:58:07.499
Chairman of cHaOs: Probably… Yeah, I'll say the beginning of the administration to the end, even though we're not there yet.

663
00:58:07.980 --> 00:58:15.759
Chairman of cHaOs: And I say that because… that the rich will continue to do whatever they can to keep the bottom half from getting rich.

664
00:58:16.610 --> 00:58:17.900
Chairman of cHaOs: Let's take it back to COVID.

665
00:58:18.610 --> 00:58:21.479
Chairman of cHaOs: In the COVID period, and right after COVID.

666
00:58:22.290 --> 00:58:28.139
Chairman of cHaOs: As we stated before, there are not many people who… Can't everyday man.

667
00:58:28.350 --> 00:58:32.859
Chairman of cHaOs: Who is in the stock market, or what they would be called the retail investor.

668
00:58:34.350 --> 00:58:38.800
Chairman of cHaOs: But there was a period, or an event, a series of events.

669
00:58:39.220 --> 00:58:41.740
Chairman of cHaOs: with the GameStop and AMC stocks.

670
00:58:43.660 --> 00:58:53.089
Chairman of cHaOs: And the everyday man… was it via Reddit? One of those forums where.

671
00:58:53.090 --> 00:58:56.360
Manny: Oh, yeah, no, it was Reddit. It was Reddit. Wall Street Bets.

672
00:58:56.360 --> 00:59:10.260
Chairman of cHaOs: Yes, Wall Street Bets and Reddit. And the common individual was able to get some instruction. They didn't know what they were doing on a day-to-day basis, but they got some common instruction.

673
00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:15.149
Chairman of cHaOs: And jumped in, and there were plenty of people who made…

674
00:59:15.620 --> 00:59:22.459
Chairman of cHaOs: A lot of money. Some people became millionaires, some people made thousands of dollars. Yours truly?

675
00:59:23.050 --> 00:59:32.969
Chairman of cHaOs: made a couple thousand dollars. But… but… but… I say that to say… Just as soon as…

676
00:59:33.490 --> 00:59:37.209
Chairman of cHaOs: The common man used the tricks

677
00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:52.380
Chairman of cHaOs: Trades and little maneuvering that the big boys have been using for eons in the stock market to manipulate pricing, to manipulate the fluctuation in a particular stock price.

678
00:59:52.750 --> 00:59:55.389
Chairman of cHaOs: They did everything they could in their power to quell that.

679
00:59:55.900 --> 01:00:13.799
Chairman of cHaOs: They stopped certain houses from allowing you to trade and sell. They did what they could to impede individuals from going through to manipulate stocks. And for me, it was very hypocritical, because y'all do it often.

680
01:00:13.800 --> 01:00:20.679
Chairman of cHaOs: We've just seen it recently, where nobody's gonna admit to it in the administration.

681
01:00:20.770 --> 01:00:26.260
Chairman of cHaOs: But just as soon as somebody from the White House mention something.

682
01:00:27.220 --> 01:00:30.299
Chairman of cHaOs: Within minutes, in some instances.

683
01:00:30.300 --> 01:00:31.090
Manny: Huh.

684
01:00:31.340 --> 01:00:35.109
Chairman of cHaOs: A stop is impacted by those words.

685
01:00:35.540 --> 01:00:36.809
Chairman of cHaOs: And guess what?

686
01:00:37.680 --> 01:00:39.640
Chairman of cHaOs: There were individuals who got rich.

687
01:00:40.610 --> 01:00:43.540
Chairman of cHaOs: Or… Somebody said something?

688
01:00:45.060 --> 01:00:48.469
Chairman of cHaOs: And somebody… Pull money out of the market.

689
01:00:49.220 --> 01:00:50.510
Chairman of cHaOs: sold off.

690
01:00:51.680 --> 01:00:54.939
Chairman of cHaOs: And that stock… was negatively impacted.

691
01:00:55.050 --> 01:00:57.030
Chairman of cHaOs: And a lot of people lost money.

692
01:00:58.870 --> 01:01:05.740
Chairman of cHaOs: Again, the higher-ups, I don't want you, as the, as the everyday person.

693
01:01:06.180 --> 01:01:12.070
Chairman of cHaOs: doing… it's very much so, do as I say, don't do as I do.

694
01:01:12.510 --> 01:01:20.539
Chairman of cHaOs: And sadly, we… as a country, Perpetuate the notion of…

695
01:01:20.960 --> 01:01:23.650
Chairman of cHaOs: Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

696
01:01:24.120 --> 01:01:27.470
Chairman of cHaOs: And you can go after all of those things as long as…

697
01:01:27.730 --> 01:01:29.279
Chairman of cHaOs: It ain't a piece of my pie.

698
01:01:31.620 --> 01:01:32.390
Manny: Yep.

699
01:01:32.660 --> 01:01:33.340
Jeez Louize: Credit. Absolutely.

700
01:01:33.340 --> 01:01:33.960
Manny: Absolutely.

701
01:01:35.140 --> 01:01:36.629
Jeez Louize: It's tragic, man, so…

702
01:01:37.230 --> 01:01:52.279
Jeez Louize: You know, with that being said, that is our coverage, and way to end it off, Chuck, with your rebuttal, giving us that closure on that segment, because it's real. It's a reality, and unfortunately.

703
01:01:52.860 --> 01:01:57.290
Jeez Louize: As a childish Gambino song says, this is America.

704
01:02:01.490 --> 01:02:04.379
Jeez Louize: Don't catch you slipping up.

705
01:02:04.780 --> 01:02:10.059
Jeez Louize: Well, on to our next segment. We have some more news going on. There's some drama going on.

706
01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:13.430
Jeez Louize: Which shouldn't surprise anybody, but

707
01:02:13.950 --> 01:02:16.020
Jeez Louize: No. We have some drama going.

708
01:02:16.020 --> 01:02:21.250
Manny: No, not… not Dr. Administration. No.

709
01:02:21.560 --> 01:02:27.400
Jeez Louize: We got some drama going on, and that drama brings us to the DNI.

710
01:02:27.560 --> 01:02:33.640
Jeez Louize: They got some drama going on. One of the biggest stories have been flying under the radar, this week.

711
01:02:33.730 --> 01:02:52.830
Jeez Louize: And that story isn't happening on the battlefield or in the economy like we just spoke about, in the prior segment, but it's happening inside our intelligence community. President Trump has nominated a new Director of National Intelligence, as you guys know. We spoke on the podcast that, Tulsi, has resigned.

712
01:02:53.140 --> 01:03:03.879
Jeez Louize: Congress is in a deadlock, and one of the government's most powerful surveillance tools is now expired, and somehow all of these things are connected and happening within the same week, which is…

713
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Jeez Louize: Which is wild. So, after significant bipartisan backlash over Trump's decision to install Bill Pulte as Acting Director of National Intelligence, the White House pivoted and nominated, J. Clayton to become the permanent,

714
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Jeez Louize: DNI. Now, I want to say this, and at the time of this recording, of course, you know that one thing that Trump has better than anybody is, he has Twitter fingers.

715
01:03:30.940 --> 01:03:46.249
Jeez Louize: And he constantly, constantly will tweet or put troops, and literally at the 5 minutes before us starting this segment, he tweeted out about, about Pulte, Bill Pulte, and he said, what is… what are Democrats scared of?

716
01:03:46.390 --> 01:03:57.639
Jeez Louize: Which is funny to me, because it was bipartisan backlash on him in the first place. It wasn't just Democrats, it was Republicans. But he said he didn't understand why there was so much.

717
01:03:57.640 --> 01:04:11.830
Jeez Louize: push, he's just the acting director. He wasn't gonna be permanent, but he, on his birthday, complaining about the one that he already has taken out of the hat and put in Jay Clayton, but…

718
01:04:11.860 --> 01:04:18.429
Jeez Louize: For Clayton, Clayton isn't a traditional intelligence official, which shouldn't surprise any of us when it comes to a pick.

719
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Jeez Louize: Most people know him as Trump's former, SEC chairman, and most recently as the U.S. Attorney to the Southern District of New York. But unlike Pulte, he brings, extensive government experience and has already received praise from some Democrats and Republicans who viewed Pulte's appointment, as a step too far.

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01:04:38.670 --> 01:04:48.509
Jeez Louize: So the first question I ask on this, before we dive any further, to you, Manny, is that you… do you think that this nomination is really about putting the most qualified person,

721
01:04:48.860 --> 01:04:56.010
Jeez Louize: in the job, or is it the White House trying to put out, a political, fire after the backlash they received from Pulte?

722
01:04:56.470 --> 01:04:57.220
Manny: I think…

723
01:04:57.220 --> 01:05:01.410
Chairman of cHaOs: Hold on, Manny, before you go, I'm gonna… I'm gonna pat you on your back.

724
01:05:01.410 --> 01:05:01.790
Manny: But…

725
01:05:01.790 --> 01:05:02.640
Chairman of cHaOs: Last week.

726
01:05:02.640 --> 01:05:03.320
Manny: Who…

727
01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:09.940
Chairman of cHaOs: Gonna pat you on your back. You ain't gotta strain your elbow. I'm gonna pat you on the back.

728
01:05:12.310 --> 01:05:13.379
Chairman of cHaOs: Go ahead, brother, go ahead.

729
01:05:13.860 --> 01:05:15.630
Chairman of cHaOs: I had to say. That's all I had to say.

730
01:05:16.220 --> 01:05:17.390
Manny: You know…

731
01:05:18.120 --> 01:05:26.550
Manny: Again, this show is for entertainment purposes only, while based on real events. We be right a whole lot of the time.

732
01:05:26.550 --> 01:05:29.790
Chairman of cHaOs: A whole heap of the time.

733
01:05:29.790 --> 01:05:31.849
Manny: Right, oh, oh, bruh.

734
01:05:32.790 --> 01:05:39.059
Manny: And to see this play out, And… almost to the T.

735
01:05:39.060 --> 01:05:39.460
Jeez Louize: Yeah.

736
01:05:39.460 --> 01:05:42.589
Manny: Of how… how I said it was going to play out.

737
01:05:42.810 --> 01:05:43.300
Chairman of cHaOs: In fact.

738
01:05:43.300 --> 01:05:47.389
Manny: was… was… oh, chef's ca- I was like, oh yeah.

739
01:05:47.670 --> 01:05:51.949
Manny: Oh, I'm kind of good at this.

740
01:05:52.590 --> 01:05:55.330
Manny: Because who are we not talking about right now?

741
01:05:55.570 --> 01:05:57.610
Manny: Not talking about Todd Blanch.

742
01:05:57.870 --> 01:05:58.410
Chairman of cHaOs: Nope.

743
01:05:59.690 --> 01:06:00.200
Manny: polls.

744
01:06:00.200 --> 01:06:00.680
Chairman of cHaOs: dope.

745
01:06:00.680 --> 01:06:03.680
Manny: the job he was supposed to do.

746
01:06:04.620 --> 01:06:12.790
Manny: in… distracting away. They're like, well, at least Blanche is an attorney, so he… he is…

747
01:06:12.790 --> 01:06:13.170
Jeez Louize: Yep.

748
01:06:13.170 --> 01:06:20.650
Manny: Adequate for this role. This guy, Pulte, I don't know what he's doing. And here's the thing, it costs them nothing.

749
01:06:21.240 --> 01:06:21.860
Jeez Louize: Nothing.

750
01:06:21.980 --> 01:06:24.830
Manny: It cost Pulte nothing.

751
01:06:25.260 --> 01:06:30.350
Manny: to just have his name floated out there for him to still take the heat, because guess what?

752
01:06:31.040 --> 01:06:34.219
Manny: He's still over on the federal housing.

753
01:06:34.570 --> 01:06:35.110
Jeez Louize: Yep.

754
01:06:35.110 --> 01:06:35.610
Manny: He didn't.

755
01:06:35.610 --> 01:06:36.150
Jeez Louize: The real guy who's.

756
01:06:36.150 --> 01:06:37.999
Manny: Still got his holes up.

757
01:06:39.420 --> 01:06:40.059
Manny: This man…

758
01:06:40.060 --> 01:06:40.479
Jeez Louize: Yeah, the Texas.

759
01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:42.070
Manny: Went on a… went on…

760
01:06:42.070 --> 01:06:43.909
Chairman of cHaOs: More people know who he is.

761
01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:46.600
Manny: He… he went on an interview.

762
01:06:47.150 --> 01:06:56.479
Manny: thought it was going well, got to that second interview, did not go well, did not get the job, and he's like, well, guess I'll go back to my regular 9-to-5.

763
01:06:56.480 --> 01:06:57.040
Jeez Louize: Yep.

764
01:06:57.040 --> 01:06:58.309
Manny: And it costs them nothing.

765
01:06:58.870 --> 01:07:00.739
Manny: He got the media bump?

766
01:07:01.080 --> 01:07:05.120
Manny: Got the name ID, and got the attention off of Blanche.

767
01:07:06.250 --> 01:07:06.980
Jeez Louize: Bingo.

768
01:07:06.980 --> 01:07:12.119
Manny: We said that this was going to happen, this was going to be the play.

769
01:07:12.280 --> 01:07:26.570
Manny: And… here we are. So, is some of this the White House backpedaling? If there was the backlash… if there wasn't the backlash that we saw, would Poultry be going forward? I think absolutely 100%.

770
01:07:27.020 --> 01:07:27.570
Jeez Louize: Yeah.

771
01:07:28.050 --> 01:07:42.669
Manny: But it doesn't, and here we are. Now they get to put another person, and admittedly, had not done deep, deep research into him, but what I do know, too, is that Clayton signed and oversaw the indictment.

772
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Jeez Louize: Yep.

773
01:07:44.110 --> 01:07:46.839
Manny: of… of Nike-fitted Maduro.

774
01:07:47.390 --> 01:07:48.140
Jeez Louize: Yep.

775
01:07:48.860 --> 01:07:53.810
Manny: So again, somebody else who has delivered for Trump.

776
01:07:53.810 --> 01:07:54.979
Jeez Louize: Definitely a loyalist.

777
01:07:54.980 --> 01:07:55.610
Manny: Yeah.

778
01:07:55.900 --> 01:07:57.050
Manny: And…

779
01:07:57.200 --> 01:08:03.330
Manny: You know, people should probably be a little bit concerned about that. And by a little bit, I mean a lot bit.

780
01:08:03.550 --> 01:08:04.310
Chairman of cHaOs: Yeah.

781
01:08:04.310 --> 01:08:05.780
Manny: I, I, I definitely…

782
01:08:05.780 --> 01:08:15.690
Jeez Louize: I definitely thought, you know, especially coming from Tulsi, I think that, you know, while certainly there was a lot of question around Tulsi and the role, I think that…

783
01:08:16.180 --> 01:08:32.050
Jeez Louize: people felt that, for the most part, she would… she would stay straight in the line. She would… she wouldn't get too crazy, and certainly wouldn't do anything, you know, that would basically be bending the knee to Trump. She operated within her capacity.

784
01:08:32.630 --> 01:08:34.639
Jeez Louize: I don't get that feeling with Clayton.

785
01:08:34.930 --> 01:08:35.939
Jeez Louize: At all.

786
01:08:37.029 --> 01:08:38.809
Manny: And for him to be…

787
01:08:38.810 --> 01:08:43.960
Jeez Louize: Director of National Intelligence, and some of the things that he's done already, I just… I don't know.

788
01:08:44.350 --> 01:08:47.739
Manny: There's still questions about his feasibility.

789
01:08:47.939 --> 01:08:51.960
Manny: But the questions weren't as loud as, as, Pulte's question.

790
01:08:53.460 --> 01:08:54.519
Jeez Louize: For sure. For sure, for sure.

791
01:08:54.520 --> 01:09:03.429
Manny: to an interesting piece that I think it'll be interesting to see how it plays out, he's one of the ones that sanctioned Elon Musk.

792
01:09:03.439 --> 01:09:04.079
Chairman of cHaOs: Yep.

793
01:09:04.479 --> 01:09:05.159
Chairman of cHaOs: Yep.

794
01:09:05.160 --> 01:09:08.499
Manny: So, how long is Elon's memory?

795
01:09:08.830 --> 01:09:10.619
Manny: And how does that play in?

796
01:09:11.670 --> 01:09:15.070
Manny: I think this'll be interesting.

797
01:09:15.330 --> 01:09:21.670
Manny: But I think, by and large, this did exactly what the administration intended for it to do.

798
01:09:22.430 --> 01:09:24.669
Manny: to get the heat off a Blanche.

799
01:09:25.180 --> 01:09:30.919
Manny: Get them… get everyone focused on… somewhere else, so they could get Blanche through.

800
01:09:31.660 --> 01:09:37.069
Chairman of cHaOs: Yeah, I, I… Agree a thousand percent. I am shocked.

801
01:09:37.310 --> 01:09:40.340
Chairman of cHaOs: That the play happened this fast.

802
01:09:40.340 --> 01:09:42.270
Manny: Yes. So fast.

803
01:09:42.279 --> 01:09:44.949
Chairman of cHaOs: And I think part of that…

804
01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:54.329
Chairman of cHaOs: is something we'll talk about in just a moment here. So, you know, I won't bury the lead, as they say, in the journalist space anymore.

805
01:09:54.330 --> 01:09:55.150
Manny: I'm a journalist.

806
01:09:55.490 --> 01:09:59.840
Chairman of cHaOs: But, one thing that I think…

807
01:10:00.510 --> 01:10:11.480
Chairman of cHaOs: helps Clayton and not receive as much backlash. Is there the renowned nature that the Southern District has in…

808
01:10:11.650 --> 01:10:17.039
Chairman of cHaOs: In all spaces, because they… Are one of those,

809
01:10:18.220 --> 01:10:26.260
Chairman of cHaOs: prosecutorial districts that is very revered. Like, you say, you know, the U.S.

810
01:10:26.260 --> 01:10:27.800
Manny: Southern District?

811
01:10:27.800 --> 01:10:29.649
Chairman of cHaOs: New York is coming up against you.

812
01:10:29.790 --> 01:10:31.270
Jeez Louize: Avery knew.

813
01:10:31.270 --> 01:10:39.410
Chairman of cHaOs: So you got problems. You got problems. You got issues on your hands, and if your name ain't John Gotti, I don't know if you're gonna be…

814
01:10:39.410 --> 01:10:41.709
Manny: You paid your taxes.

815
01:10:42.770 --> 01:10:51.000
Chairman of cHaOs: So… so that… that gives him, and I think that's where some of the… the fire has turned down, versus…

816
01:10:51.560 --> 01:11:04.209
Chairman of cHaOs: when, you know, Pulte was thrown out there, but like you said, there… there are still questions. There are very significant questions that should be raised, and…

817
01:11:04.370 --> 01:11:09.200
Chairman of cHaOs: My apprehension is… Who's gonna raise them?

818
01:11:10.100 --> 01:11:17.710
Chairman of cHaOs: Because it was… it was easy to see who would, you know, come forth and give the pushback on Pulte.

819
01:11:17.860 --> 01:11:25.349
Chairman of cHaOs: you know, Those individuals started making statements and jumping out the window with this.

820
01:11:26.410 --> 01:11:29.540
Chairman of cHaOs: As we said, he led the indictment on Maduro.

821
01:11:30.030 --> 01:11:34.760
Chairman of cHaOs: Okay. You… a lot of those individuals who…

822
01:11:35.110 --> 01:11:39.670
Chairman of cHaOs: would speak out against this. On one side, there's gonna be Hush Mouth.

823
01:11:40.310 --> 01:11:42.880
Chairman of cHaOs: You, you, you got one of our enemies.

824
01:11:43.700 --> 01:11:45.150
Chairman of cHaOs: Air quotations.

825
01:11:45.150 --> 01:11:45.670
Manny: Yep.

826
01:11:47.390 --> 01:11:55.509
Chairman of cHaOs: Then, he was the SEC chair. Again, what does that have to do with the price of tea in Boston?

827
01:11:56.100 --> 01:12:00.980
Chairman of cHaOs: When it comes to… National Intelligence.

828
01:12:01.880 --> 01:12:03.980
Chairman of cHaOs: Like, really, what is it?

829
01:12:05.060 --> 01:12:05.970
Chairman of cHaOs: It has nothing to do with…

830
01:12:06.030 --> 01:12:15.999
Manny: That's like me, and actually, it's probably even better, that's like me applying for the… the NHL general manager job.

831
01:12:16.190 --> 01:12:24.139
Manny: And saying, I know, but if you look at my history as a GM on Maddin…

832
01:12:24.590 --> 01:12:26.100
Jeez Louize: Oh, Lord.

833
01:12:26.100 --> 01:12:26.840
Chairman of cHaOs: Eastern!

834
01:12:27.580 --> 01:12:29.599
Manny: I'm a beast. So I can definitely do this.

835
01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:30.980
Chairman of cHaOs: Yes. Bruh.

836
01:12:31.540 --> 01:12:33.769
Manny: It's not even the same sport, what are you doing?

837
01:12:33.770 --> 01:12:40.559
Chairman of cHaOs: Not even the same sport. So, it's gonna be very interesting to see

838
01:12:40.770 --> 01:12:46.280
Chairman of cHaOs: How this goes forth, but as my good brother said, and as was brought up last week.

839
01:12:47.310 --> 01:12:50.120
Chairman of cHaOs: the real annexation of Puerto Rico

840
01:12:50.410 --> 01:12:56.040
Chairman of cHaOs: was getting that heat off Ty Blanche, and letting that move forward, so…

841
01:12:56.980 --> 01:12:58.750
Chairman of cHaOs: All I gotta say is wait and see.

842
01:12:59.520 --> 01:13:06.050
Jeez Louize: Well, I think part of this story that gets very, interesting is that the fight over who runs

843
01:13:06.190 --> 01:13:14.969
Jeez Louize: America's intelligence agencies became so intense that it derailed efforts to renew Section 702

844
01:13:15.150 --> 01:13:21.880
Jeez Louize: FISA, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, for those of you who don't know.

845
01:13:22.110 --> 01:13:31.500
Jeez Louize: Lawmakers, from both sides and both parties argued that they weren't comfortable extending such a powerful surveillance authority

846
01:13:31.540 --> 01:13:49.010
Jeez Louize: while leadership at the DNI remained uncertain. Now, several lawmakers openly said they wanted clarity on the DNI situation before moving forward with reauthorization. What started as a personnel dispute has now become a national security dispute, so…

847
01:13:49.040 --> 01:13:51.799
Jeez Louize: When you look at that, think about that for a second.

848
01:13:52.480 --> 01:14:06.950
Jeez Louize: one appointment effectively stalls a major intelligence program. Now, I'm gonna ask this question to you, Chuck, because, you are our chairman of chaos, when it comes to, certainly,

849
01:14:07.410 --> 01:14:19.190
Jeez Louize: So, does that show that Congress is doing its oversight job, or does it show politics is now, overriding national security?

850
01:14:20.600 --> 01:14:24.239
Chairman of cHaOs: I don't think national security has ever made it… made…

851
01:14:25.280 --> 01:14:30.420
Chairman of cHaOs: Let me say that again. National security was never a top priority to politicians.

852
01:14:32.070 --> 01:14:32.940
Chairman of cHaOs: Never.

853
01:14:33.630 --> 01:14:35.290
Chairman of cHaOs: Because if that was the case.

854
01:14:36.770 --> 01:14:40.769
Chairman of cHaOs: After years of things coming out, we would have never had 9-11.

855
01:14:41.930 --> 01:14:42.770
Jeez Louize: Mmm.

856
01:14:43.030 --> 01:14:49.839
Chairman of cHaOs: There are reports that they had intelligence information about different aspects of different things going on.

857
01:14:50.710 --> 01:14:52.309
Chairman of cHaOs: And they sat on their hands.

858
01:14:53.150 --> 01:14:54.830
Chairman of cHaOs: That's a familiar sign.

859
01:14:55.300 --> 01:14:55.950
Jeez Louize: Mmm.

860
01:14:56.410 --> 01:15:05.209
Chairman of cHaOs: So, in this, If they true… if… the executive branch, legislative branch.

861
01:15:05.550 --> 01:15:07.990
Chairman of cHaOs: Truly cared about national security.

862
01:15:08.500 --> 01:15:17.730
Chairman of cHaOs: They would put only the qualified individuals who had experience, understanding, and wherewithal in these top positions.

863
01:15:17.990 --> 01:15:24.680
Chairman of cHaOs: You would not… Give the homeboy discount. You would not give the buddy pass.

864
01:15:25.110 --> 01:15:25.630
Jeez Louize: Bruh.

865
01:15:25.630 --> 01:15:29.880
Chairman of cHaOs: Like, if we want to be very serious about this.

866
01:15:30.070 --> 01:15:35.789
Chairman of cHaOs: Why not have someone who is overqualified, if that's really a thing?

867
01:15:36.550 --> 01:15:40.970
Chairman of cHaOs: I want someone who has experienced

868
01:15:42.020 --> 01:15:53.930
Chairman of cHaOs: XYZ. I want someone who understands the back channels of espionage. I want someone who understands Foreign Relations.

869
01:15:54.380 --> 01:15:54.990
Jeez Louize: Yeah.

870
01:15:55.880 --> 01:16:03.540
Chairman of cHaOs: Not somebody who can… Issue a fine against the company because they were misleading in their stock price.

871
01:16:03.970 --> 01:16:12.279
Chairman of cHaOs: Not someone who's gonna bring charges up on someone based off the evidence gathered by a group of individuals.

872
01:16:12.390 --> 01:16:16.030
Chairman of cHaOs: I want someone who under… who understands the language.

873
01:16:16.400 --> 01:16:20.139
Chairman of cHaOs: Of the role in the environment.

874
01:16:20.660 --> 01:16:26.989
Chairman of cHaOs: I don't want… My plumber come into my house, To fix my fuse box.

875
01:16:27.530 --> 01:16:28.220
Manny: Yep.

876
01:16:29.220 --> 01:16:29.779
Chairman of cHaOs: Where did he go?

877
01:16:29.780 --> 01:16:30.340
Jeez Louize: No.

878
01:16:31.890 --> 01:16:37.369
Chairman of cHaOs: And that's what this is. And too many times before, like we said.

879
01:16:37.500 --> 01:16:41.420
Chairman of cHaOs: Tosi, at least she had been in those spaces.

880
01:16:41.420 --> 01:16:41.760
Manny: Yep.

881
01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:42.310
Jeez Louize: Yep.

882
01:16:42.490 --> 01:16:49.709
Chairman of cHaOs: She had a foundation and understanding. Was she the most qualified?

883
01:16:49.910 --> 01:17:09.750
Chairman of cHaOs: I'm not gonna speak to that. I don't know. I'm not… I'm not one… this is not one of my strong suits. This is… this area's not one of my strong suits to… to give a critique of she was the most qualified, but I know she had some background on her resume to say that she had some competency.

884
01:17:09.810 --> 01:17:21.489
Chairman of cHaOs: Now, I do have an individual in my circle who I could reach out to and get their opinion on that, and then I would trust their word, because I know their background.

885
01:17:22.160 --> 01:17:31.820
Chairman of cHaOs: But what I do know, and the good common sense that the good Lord gave me, could tell me that an SEC chair and a prosecutor

886
01:17:31.940 --> 01:17:38.139
Chairman of cHaOs: Is not the best pick for… national intelligence, or…

887
01:17:38.140 --> 01:17:38.560
Jeez Louize: Not at all.

888
01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:40.490
Chairman of cHaOs: I mean, especially not… On social media.

889
01:17:40.490 --> 01:17:42.850
Manny: Especially not when we're in conflicts.

890
01:17:43.250 --> 01:17:45.480
Chairman of cHaOs: In the thick of a conflict.

891
01:17:45.480 --> 01:17:50.129
Jeez Louize: Bro, why don't we always pick the least qualified people when we in the thickest of the mix?

892
01:17:50.130 --> 01:17:51.100
Manny: Think of it.

893
01:17:51.100 --> 01:17:54.590
Chairman of cHaOs: Why is Jared Kushner over there negotiating a peace deal?

894
01:17:54.590 --> 01:17:55.270
Jeez Louize: Buh.

895
01:17:55.440 --> 01:17:56.280
Jeez Louize: Wow.

896
01:17:56.750 --> 01:17:58.770
Chairman of cHaOs: You saw the piece he brought, the Albania.

897
01:17:58.770 --> 01:17:59.480
Manny: Right.

898
01:17:59.690 --> 01:18:01.520
Jeez Louize: Bruh.

899
01:18:02.080 --> 01:18:02.710
Chairman of cHaOs: Right.

900
01:18:02.890 --> 01:18:11.190
Chairman of cHaOs: But that, yeah, that… that… that's where I am on… like, you, you can't tell me you… you… you…

901
01:18:11.780 --> 01:18:14.059
Chairman of cHaOs: Perfect campaign. America first.

902
01:18:14.610 --> 01:18:15.110
Jeez Louize: Yep.

903
01:18:15.110 --> 01:18:16.750
Chairman of cHaOs: This is not America first.

904
01:18:16.850 --> 01:18:17.410
Jeez Louize: Can't be…

905
01:18:17.410 --> 01:18:20.260
Manny: Well, no, no, no, I think it is… it is America first.

906
01:18:21.170 --> 01:18:21.870
Chairman of cHaOs: Oh, okay.

907
01:18:21.870 --> 01:18:23.550
Manny: Who's America?

908
01:18:26.050 --> 01:18:27.420
Chairman of cHaOs: Aha!

909
01:18:27.420 --> 01:18:28.229
Jeez Louize: Good point, brother.

910
01:18:28.230 --> 01:18:29.370
Chairman of cHaOs: Aha!

911
01:18:29.370 --> 01:18:29.850
Audio shared by Jeez Louize: That's the…

912
01:18:30.290 --> 01:18:33.240
Manny: Like, let's get over this…

913
01:18:33.240 --> 01:18:33.650
Chairman of cHaOs: You're right.

914
01:18:33.650 --> 01:18:39.980
Manny: This, like, in allness, of America, and we are so great.

915
01:18:40.230 --> 01:18:41.410
Manny: No.

916
01:18:41.980 --> 01:18:46.720
Manny: We do bad things. We do bad things a lot.

917
01:18:46.720 --> 01:18:51.530
Jeez Louize: all down, bro. Yeah, like, we do bad things.

918
01:18:51.530 --> 01:18:58.710
Manny: Look back to the start of the war with Iran. It started with the U.S. striking a school.

919
01:18:58.810 --> 01:19:06.420
Manny: and killing children. Like, we love to romanticize who and what America is.

920
01:19:06.760 --> 01:19:10.769
Manny: And… We just… Hold on, bro. Oop.

921
01:19:11.810 --> 01:19:13.539
Chairman of cHaOs: I agree a thousand percent.

922
01:19:13.660 --> 01:19:15.610
Chairman of cHaOs: We do bad things.

923
01:19:16.310 --> 01:19:20.609
Chairman of cHaOs: we do terrible things. Some of those terrible things I actually agree with.

924
01:19:23.760 --> 01:19:24.840
Manny: Also true.

925
01:19:25.740 --> 01:19:26.090
Manny: Also.

926
01:19:26.090 --> 01:19:32.539
Chairman of cHaOs: However… I truly believe… That bombing?

927
01:19:32.790 --> 01:19:46.009
Chairman of cHaOs: was a direct result of the incompetency that has been shown forth in this administration, and the mismanagement of those individuals

928
01:19:46.100 --> 01:19:57.349
Chairman of cHaOs: higher up. Again, speaking to the point that I was saying earlier about putting people who has some comp… some understanding of what's going on around them. Now.

929
01:19:57.490 --> 01:20:01.459
Chairman of cHaOs: bombing, this is gonna sound bad.

930
01:20:02.630 --> 01:20:04.769
Chairman of cHaOs: It's a… hey, it is what it is.

931
01:20:05.330 --> 01:20:07.740
Chairman of cHaOs: There are civilian casualties in war.

932
01:20:07.740 --> 01:20:08.289
Manny: There are.

933
01:20:08.580 --> 01:20:15.359
Chairman of cHaOs: And certain strikes happen, sometimes they're accidents, sometimes whatever.

934
01:20:15.740 --> 01:20:22.820
Chairman of cHaOs: I… I get my information from the New York Times on what I'm about to say next.

935
01:20:23.340 --> 01:20:26.130
Chairman of cHaOs: But there are reports that

936
01:20:26.760 --> 01:20:34.489
Chairman of cHaOs: This was a military installation, or some kind of military outset prior to it being a school.

937
01:20:34.720 --> 01:20:36.090
Chairman of cHaOs: And…

938
01:20:36.090 --> 01:20:36.410
Manny: So.

939
01:20:36.410 --> 01:20:37.029
Chairman of cHaOs: All the good stuff.

940
01:20:37.590 --> 01:20:46.049
Chairman of cHaOs: And old intel, and people not refreshing the intel that they had, and so the structure was still the same.

941
01:20:46.390 --> 01:20:49.319
Chairman of cHaOs: But there was… but there was…

942
01:20:49.480 --> 01:20:55.539
Chairman of cHaOs: Paintings, you know, to make it look like it was… it looked like a school.

943
01:20:56.390 --> 01:21:09.580
Chairman of cHaOs: On the ground. But when you're operating on bad information because you have incompetencies coming from the above on down, you have that result.

944
01:21:09.580 --> 01:21:10.160
Manny: Yeah.

945
01:21:10.790 --> 01:21:16.750
Chairman of cHaOs: But… Yeah, now… And the only reason I wanted… I wanted to… I cut you off was to.

946
01:21:16.750 --> 01:21:19.499
Manny: No, I think that's fair, fair clarification.

947
01:21:19.500 --> 01:21:26.670
Chairman of cHaOs: But I do agree, we do bad things. Trust me, I am not the one waving the flag.

948
01:21:27.020 --> 01:21:30.889
Chairman of cHaOs: Deleting the Olympians out to, like, the.

949
01:21:30.890 --> 01:21:31.980
Jeez Louize: You ain't lighting the tour.

950
01:21:31.980 --> 01:21:38.420
Chairman of cHaOs: It is not me. In fact, the other day, when I was at the Watch Fest.

951
01:21:38.610 --> 01:21:47.039
Chairman of cHaOs: they were chanting USA, and I… I was happy that the team was winning, but the way things are rocking right now, you're not gonna get me to chant USA.

952
01:21:47.230 --> 01:21:48.020
Chairman of cHaOs: -

953
01:21:49.320 --> 01:21:50.459
Chairman of cHaOs: No, no.

954
01:21:50.900 --> 01:21:52.950
Jeez Louize: Well, I think that… go ahead, Manny.

955
01:21:52.950 --> 01:22:00.629
Manny: No, so I think it's a rough position. I think it's a rough position, but we also… if we want things to get better.

956
01:22:00.800 --> 01:22:05.410
Manny: We have to take an honest assessment of who we are.

957
01:22:05.690 --> 01:22:10.060
Manny: Who we have in places in power, and where we need to improve.

958
01:22:10.280 --> 01:22:11.040
Chairman of cHaOs: Agreed.

959
01:22:11.280 --> 01:22:21.309
Manny: But having that honest conversation also means that you gotta admit that we've not made the best decisions in certain places. And not to say all of our decisions have been bad.

960
01:22:21.310 --> 01:22:21.910
Jeez Louize: Yeah, yeah.

961
01:22:21.910 --> 01:22:28.919
Manny: In the 250 years of America, all America's done has been horrible, that's absolutely not what I'm saying.

962
01:22:30.330 --> 01:22:32.759
Manny: But we're… we get things wrong.

963
01:22:33.110 --> 01:22:35.459
Manny: And to… Chuck, to your point.

964
01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:49.050
Manny: If we're not going to care about national intelligence, if as a leader, intelligence and that is not a concern of you, it becomes of the utmost importance that you have competent individuals running that organization

965
01:22:49.320 --> 01:22:52.389
Manny: So you can put it to set it and forget it.

966
01:22:52.620 --> 01:22:53.300
Chairman of cHaOs: Yep.

967
01:22:54.360 --> 01:23:00.790
Manny: And… if you… if you look back at FISA, This came out of 9-11.

968
01:23:02.280 --> 01:23:03.530
Manny: And…

969
01:23:03.720 --> 01:23:05.560
Chairman of cHaOs: Oh, boy.

970
01:23:05.560 --> 01:23:23.710
Manny: The conversations… the conversation that we're now having about FISA is some of the same conversations that we had after 9-11. To what level is the American public willing to sacrifice their liberties

971
01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:26.429
Manny: For their safety.

972
01:23:28.980 --> 01:23:40.120
Manny: Because one of the… again, one of the things that 702 does, it allows warrantless collection on foreign targets about U.S. systems. But…

973
01:23:40.510 --> 01:23:48.770
Manny: because of the state of that, it sweeps up Americans as well, having those conversations with them. It's called the backdoor loophole.

974
01:23:49.330 --> 01:23:53.300
Manny: So… 702 is also…

975
01:23:53.510 --> 01:24:02.259
Manny: a major piece of the President's daily intelligence briefing. Now, whether he reads them or not, completely different circumstance.

976
01:24:03.170 --> 01:24:09.819
Manny: But again, like I said la- like I said last week, this is a major tool.

977
01:24:10.730 --> 01:24:15.549
Manny: That the… that our government uses for our national security.

978
01:24:15.990 --> 01:24:18.219
Manny: Again, not defending it.

979
01:24:19.180 --> 01:24:21.460
Manny: But what is the response?

980
01:24:22.370 --> 01:24:33.390
Manny: Because if all… if you've had this, again, same analogy I used last week… last week, I'll use here. If all you've had for all this time is a hammer.

981
01:24:34.930 --> 01:24:40.060
Manny: What is your reaction when that hammer is taken away and you see all these nails?

982
01:24:40.190 --> 01:24:45.679
Manny: One could also argue that we were using a hammer in situations where we needed a screwdriver.

983
01:24:46.740 --> 01:24:49.210
Manny: But if your only tool is the hammer.

984
01:24:50.120 --> 01:24:53.740
Manny: And you take that away, how are you now going to do your job?

985
01:24:54.990 --> 01:25:05.640
Manny: So… I mean, the house left town until the 23rd, so… Yep. I think we're probably seeing weeks.

986
01:25:05.890 --> 01:25:08.100
Manny: Of this not being addressed.

987
01:25:10.130 --> 01:25:19.120
Jeez Louize: And I think that's dangerous, because, you know, good point for humanity, that, for our listeners, that you're pointing out what that 702 is, because…

988
01:25:20.340 --> 01:25:24.400
Jeez Louize: It does collect that information without having to have that warrant.

989
01:25:24.440 --> 01:25:41.020
Jeez Louize: But also there's a collection of Americans' communication that comes in without a traditional warrant, and now you have, you know, Congress failed to pass an extension before the deadline, so it's lapsed. You know, and like Manny said, you're going weeks, it could be, or longer.

990
01:25:41.320 --> 01:25:45.169
Jeez Louize: Depending on how long the confirmation takes, and where we get with

991
01:25:45.340 --> 01:25:55.609
Jeez Louize: Clayton, and how that all unfolds. But, you know, the House rejected a last-minute extension effort, leaving the intelligence agency without, new authority moving forward. Now.

992
01:25:55.680 --> 01:26:08.380
Jeez Louize: The intelligence officials have said that existing certifications allow some operations to still continue temporarily, so this isn't, you know, with this, this lapse, it isn't an immediate lights-out situation or moment.

993
01:26:09.020 --> 01:26:23.099
Jeez Louize: But the longer that Congress waits for this, the more national security officials warn that there could be gaps in intelligence collection, which, you know, Manny pointed out when this came about with, you know, after 9-11, what potentially could we…

994
01:26:23.400 --> 01:26:35.090
Jeez Louize: be losing out on, or even in the middle of, you know, a war right now, with Iran that hasn't at the moment of this recording ended, what intel are we receiving? What… what…

995
01:26:35.680 --> 01:26:39.340
Jeez Louize: New intel, or lack thereof, that we're not getting.

996
01:26:39.480 --> 01:26:53.310
Manny: If you remember, so you remember a little while back, they canceled that Taylor Swift concert because of a plot? They credit 702 with helping get that information together.

997
01:26:53.540 --> 01:26:54.899
Manny: To stop that.

998
01:26:55.000 --> 01:26:58.710
Manny: Again, we try to be… we're straight up here on the pod, like,

999
01:26:58.710 --> 01:26:59.290
Jeez Louize: Yeah.

1000
01:26:59.690 --> 01:27:02.149
Manny: What is this trade-off we're willing to make?

1001
01:27:02.330 --> 01:27:08.380
Manny: Are there other ways to do the job? Probably. How do you separate Americans out?

1002
01:27:08.820 --> 01:27:12.580
Manny: from these situations. Should you separate Americans out?

1003
01:27:12.990 --> 01:27:13.700
Jeez Louize: Yeah.

1004
01:27:13.700 --> 01:27:14.400
Manny: Don't know.

1005
01:27:14.400 --> 01:27:20.679
Chairman of cHaOs: Well, as a Black man, I've never had my liberties, or… In this country.

1006
01:27:20.870 --> 01:27:22.280
Chairman of cHaOs: I've been surveilled.

1007
01:27:23.420 --> 01:27:24.980
Chairman of cHaOs: Every day, in this country.

1008
01:27:26.420 --> 01:27:31.310
Chairman of cHaOs: So, so, to your question, Manny, what are you willing to give up?

1009
01:27:32.060 --> 01:27:33.579
Manny: What… what haven't?

1010
01:27:34.020 --> 01:27:36.549
Chairman of cHaOs: What… what did I have to give up?

1011
01:27:37.390 --> 01:27:38.860
Jeez Louize: Facts.

1012
01:27:39.140 --> 01:27:39.760
Chairman of cHaOs: What is…

1013
01:27:40.180 --> 01:27:49.659
Chairman of cHaOs: Like, and for me, that is the conundrum that I stand in, because…

1014
01:27:50.210 --> 01:27:54.670
Chairman of cHaOs: yes, I want the country to be safe. I see what happens…

1015
01:27:56.010 --> 01:28:08.260
Chairman of cHaOs: Let's understand that part of this is propaganda, what you see on the news and what happens in other countries, but there's also a realized and actualized aspect in many countries

1016
01:28:08.660 --> 01:28:13.569
Chairman of cHaOs: They… they are… Running for their lives every day.

1017
01:28:13.960 --> 01:28:14.440
Manny: Yep.

1018
01:28:14.850 --> 01:28:21.810
Chairman of cHaOs: Every single day. So I don't wanna… minimalize… That aspect, but…

1019
01:28:23.080 --> 01:28:24.729
Chairman of cHaOs: What are you protecting me from?

1020
01:28:26.040 --> 01:28:35.089
Chairman of cHaOs: Because the same people that I'm supposed to entrust To protect me, just… held a vote.

1021
01:28:35.420 --> 01:28:36.520
Chairman of cHaOs: to strip.

1022
01:28:37.210 --> 01:28:38.550
Chairman of cHaOs: My rights.

1023
01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:46.409
Chairman of cHaOs: And stripped the ability to protect my right to give my civic duty of voting.

1024
01:28:47.960 --> 01:28:51.099
Chairman of cHaOs: Just to protect their self-interest.

1025
01:28:52.540 --> 01:28:59.599
Chairman of cHaOs: Y-you… you know… You sit… Systematic measures in place.

1026
01:28:59.940 --> 01:29:04.950
Chairman of cHaOs: to disenfranchise your own people.

1027
01:29:05.220 --> 01:29:05.840
Manny: Yep.

1028
01:29:05.840 --> 01:29:10.940
Chairman of cHaOs: The president is running around, talking about Birthright citizenship.

1029
01:29:11.870 --> 01:29:15.010
Chairman of cHaOs: But I wonder if he wants to snatch birthright citizenship.

1030
01:29:16.200 --> 01:29:21.030
Chairman of cHaOs: from… My man, his name just left me.

1031
01:29:21.140 --> 01:29:23.450
Chairman of cHaOs: on the U.S. national soccer team.

1032
01:29:24.180 --> 01:29:27.150
Chairman of cHaOs: who scored 2 goals against Paraguay.

1033
01:29:27.790 --> 01:29:31.190
Chairman of cHaOs: Who was only born… who's only born in America

1034
01:29:31.490 --> 01:29:41.179
Chairman of cHaOs: I won't say… well, I won't say by accident, but because a security official delayed his mother from getting on the plane, so he was born in Brooklyn.

1035
01:29:42.030 --> 01:29:44.930
Chairman of cHaOs: him being in America for this…

1036
01:29:45.250 --> 01:29:48.800
Chairman of cHaOs: World Cup is only the third time he's ever been in America.

1037
01:29:49.240 --> 01:29:54.260
Chairman of cHaOs: The first time was when he was born. The second time is when he played here for the Gold Cup.

1038
01:29:54.540 --> 01:29:57.299
Chairman of cHaOs: The third time is when he played in the World Cup.

1039
01:29:57.960 --> 01:29:59.140
Chairman of cHaOs: Grew up in England.

1040
01:30:02.030 --> 01:30:02.910
Chairman of cHaOs: So…

1041
01:30:03.240 --> 01:30:12.590
Chairman of cHaOs: Y'all would cheer for that. Cheer for him, because he has on the stars and stripes, because it's a personal benefit of yours, to enjoy the spectacle.

1042
01:30:12.980 --> 01:30:15.060
Chairman of cHaOs: of the USA winning.

1043
01:30:17.120 --> 01:30:24.050
Chairman of cHaOs: like, where do I get to enjoy and reap the fruit

1044
01:30:25.080 --> 01:30:30.160
Chairman of cHaOs: Of this country in regards to

1045
01:30:30.600 --> 01:30:34.210
Chairman of cHaOs: these civil protections. Now, don't get it twisted, listeners.

1046
01:30:34.430 --> 01:30:37.050
Chairman of cHaOs: I… I love being an American, I love…

1047
01:30:37.170 --> 01:30:38.510
Manny: Absolutely.

1048
01:30:38.590 --> 01:30:44.620
Chairman of cHaOs: what comes with being here, I've traveled abroad. Not just a… never mind.

1049
01:30:44.740 --> 01:30:50.459
Chairman of cHaOs: Oh… I've been… I've been to other countries.

1050
01:30:51.070 --> 01:30:54.729
Chairman of cHaOs: I've… I've seen… How other people live.

1051
01:30:54.870 --> 01:31:00.909
Chairman of cHaOs: And I'm not talking about to the Bahamas on a cruise, either. I'm talking on a flight.

1052
01:31:01.210 --> 01:31:10.750
Chairman of cHaOs: several hours to other countries, so I understand this. But at the same time, If I am an American.

1053
01:31:11.050 --> 01:31:14.940
Chairman of cHaOs: why can't I… why can I not enjoy

1054
01:31:15.740 --> 01:31:22.250
Chairman of cHaOs: the fruits and benefits of being an American that all Americans want to receive.

1055
01:31:23.990 --> 01:31:32.480
Chairman of cHaOs: And… there's only a segment of America who truly benefits from… Shoot.

1056
01:31:32.970 --> 01:31:34.270
Chairman of cHaOs: Section 702.

1057
01:31:34.390 --> 01:31:34.920
Manny: Yeah.

1058
01:31:35.170 --> 01:31:36.109
Manny: It didn't…

1059
01:31:36.630 --> 01:31:45.400
Chairman of cHaOs: Because… One issue that has many activist groups have brought up is…

1060
01:31:46.270 --> 01:31:53.640
Chairman of cHaOs: The government going to these telecommunication companies, asking for records, for Americans.

1061
01:31:53.870 --> 01:31:56.980
Chairman of cHaOs: In the name of national security.

1062
01:31:57.950 --> 01:32:02.739
Chairman of cHaOs: But there's nothing… Foundational that they can present.

1063
01:32:03.960 --> 01:32:11.400
Chairman of cHaOs: As to why, because, again, we talk about these warrantless, warrantless…

1064
01:32:11.940 --> 01:32:14.320
Manny: Data collection, arrests, yep.

1065
01:32:14.320 --> 01:32:15.240
Chairman of cHaOs: Yeah.

1066
01:32:16.630 --> 01:32:21.439
Chairman of cHaOs: And this request for this information, if they had substantial

1067
01:32:22.310 --> 01:32:29.390
Chairman of cHaOs: info, they would have a warrant for Americans. They wouldn't just run to a Google, or an Apple.

1068
01:32:29.830 --> 01:32:32.420
Chairman of cHaOs: or a T-Mobile, or AT&T.

1069
01:32:32.620 --> 01:32:35.070
Chairman of cHaOs: Asking for your records.

1070
01:32:35.690 --> 01:32:38.470
Chairman of cHaOs: they could subpoena him. And guess what?

1071
01:32:38.780 --> 01:32:41.750
Chairman of cHaOs: At that point, they have no choice but to give them up.

1072
01:32:41.750 --> 01:32:42.460
Manny: Yep.

1073
01:32:42.960 --> 01:32:46.490
Chairman of cHaOs: So… Excuse me.

1074
01:32:47.300 --> 01:32:55.720
Chairman of cHaOs: me not… not being anti-America, it's me being… real America, because…

1075
01:32:56.040 --> 01:33:04.039
Chairman of cHaOs: Shoot. And it's not even a black-white thing, because the white guy who's making $35,000 a year…

1076
01:33:05.770 --> 01:33:07.099
Chairman of cHaOs: He got the same issue.

1077
01:33:07.100 --> 01:33:09.859
Manny: Same problems, man, same problems.

1078
01:33:09.860 --> 01:33:14.090
Chairman of cHaOs: the same issue. So, this is me speaking for…

1079
01:33:14.410 --> 01:33:25.180
Chairman of cHaOs: the underprivileged, and this is not about poverty, this is underprivileged when you're not a part of the elite group. The elite…

1080
01:33:25.330 --> 01:33:29.599
Chairman of cHaOs: Select few who get to benefit from

1081
01:33:30.310 --> 01:33:33.610
Chairman of cHaOs: People trying to circumvent and bend the rules.

1082
01:33:33.820 --> 01:33:36.720
Chairman of cHaOs: for their… I didn't even say gang.

1083
01:33:36.880 --> 01:33:37.960
Chairman of cHaOs: Just fool.

1084
01:33:38.640 --> 01:33:41.699
Chairman of cHaOs: For their sake of getting around the structure.

1085
01:33:41.700 --> 01:33:42.090
Manny: Yep.

1086
01:33:42.090 --> 01:33:44.439
Chairman of cHaOs: Again, here it is, checks and balances.

1087
01:33:46.050 --> 01:33:47.270
Chairman of cHaOs: That's put in place.

1088
01:33:47.270 --> 01:33:47.880
Manny: Yep.

1089
01:33:49.230 --> 01:33:51.999
Jeez Louize: Well, I think when you… Sum all this up.

1090
01:33:52.180 --> 01:33:55.830
Jeez Louize: Congress finds himself, in a bit of a pickle.

1091
01:33:56.920 --> 01:34:03.800
Jeez Louize: They need a surveillance program many national security experts consider essential.

1092
01:34:04.090 --> 01:34:11.309
Jeez Louize: But they also have a growing, concern about the privacy and the growing distrust over who is running

1093
01:34:11.470 --> 01:34:28.090
Jeez Louize: that intelligence apparatus. And the nomination of Jay Clayton may calm some nerves on Capitol Hill, but the bigger fight isn't over, who sits in the DNI chair. The bigger fight is over how much power the government should have

1094
01:34:28.270 --> 01:34:41.210
Jeez Louize: to monitor communications in the name of national security. And to be honest, just even from this segment that we're covering, I think it's pretty clear to see that that debate isn't going anywhere.

1095
01:34:41.440 --> 01:34:48.409
Jeez Louize: Anytime soon. So, it'll be very interesting to see how long this laps, will last.

1096
01:34:48.650 --> 01:34:53.300
Jeez Louize: How the confirmation of, Jay Clayton will go.

1097
01:34:53.550 --> 01:34:56.260
Jeez Louize: And how that plays into delaying

1098
01:34:56.380 --> 01:35:07.400
Jeez Louize: that, that, Section 702 even further. And, I mean, even think about implications, what if Jay doesn't make the nomination? And they have to go back, and Trump has to go back to the drawing board for another pick?

1099
01:35:07.620 --> 01:35:12.930
Jeez Louize: Which would prob… if Congress is already saying they want this D&I,

1100
01:35:13.070 --> 01:35:21.659
Jeez Louize: cleared up of who's going to be running this before they, agree to reauthorization. I mean, we could be talking about going from weeks to months.

1101
01:35:21.660 --> 01:35:23.560
Manny: Months at this point, yeah.

1102
01:35:23.560 --> 01:35:28.720
Jeez Louize: And the lack, of Intel, And what could possibly be.

1103
01:35:28.880 --> 01:35:43.220
Jeez Louize: going on that we won't be privy to is very concerning, to say the least. So, be very interesting to see how this plays out. So, that's our coverage of the D&I. Brothers. Anything else on DNI, Jay Clayton, Section 702?

1104
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Chairman of cHaOs: I just want to say, when you first brought up 702, immediately I thought, where my girls at?

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Jeez Louize: That was one.

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01:35:54.320 --> 01:35:56.990
Chairman of cHaOs: Hey, 702…

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01:35:56.990 --> 01:35:57.550
Jeez Louize: It was a little box.

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01:35:57.550 --> 01:36:01.460
Chairman of cHaOs: I like your Stilo. They had some jazz, bro. They had some jazz.

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01:36:01.460 --> 01:36:08.299
Jeez Louize: It definitely has some, definitely has some. Shout out 702. Shout out to the 702, wherever that's at. I don't know where that's at. Where's 702 at?

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Manny: Hmm.

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01:36:10.070 --> 01:36:12.599
Chairman of cHaOs: Isn't that Vega? Hold on, let me see.

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Chairman of cHaOs: I'm about to see.

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01:36:15.180 --> 01:36:17.849
Jeez Louize: We might have a listener out there in the 702, so we might have to…

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01:36:18.200 --> 01:36:20.019
Chairman of cHaOs: Boy, that boy good.

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01:36:20.410 --> 01:36:21.200
Manny: Vegas?

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01:36:21.200 --> 01:36:21.970
Jeez Louize: Amazing.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Vegas, Clark.

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Jeez Louize: Yay! Yay!

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Jeez Louize: 702, shout out to Vegas.

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Manny: Shout out to our listeners, yeah.

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Chairman of cHaOs: For many reasons.

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01:36:30.890 --> 01:36:36.539
Jeez Louize: many reasons. But we do know we have a listener out there, I believe, what is it, Manny, in Reno, Nevada?

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01:36:38.060 --> 01:36:42.960
Jeez Louize: That is a… that is a fateful of the podcast. Every time the episode drops on Monday.

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01:36:42.960 --> 01:36:44.399
Chairman of cHaOs: Shout out to Reno.

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01:36:44.400 --> 01:36:45.640
Jeez Louize: He's, like, the first person to.

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01:36:45.640 --> 01:36:48.000
Manny: One of the first people to listen, man.

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01:36:48.230 --> 01:36:52.859
Chairman of cHaOs: Reno, 775. 775 is Reno.

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Jeez Louize: 775, 775, close to…

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01:36:55.660 --> 01:36:57.470
Manny: We're gonna attribute it to the state.

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Jeez Louize: Yeah.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Hold on now, you gotta, you gotta get Reno, get Reno right, because it's the biggest little city in the world. You gotta give Reno they love, man.

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Jeez Louize: So, shout out to that listener, shout out to that listener, out there in Reno, Nevada. So, gentlemen, we are at the point of our, segment, I mean, excuse me, the podcast episode where we have reached

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Jeez Louize: Our Pickle of the Week.

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01:37:19.670 --> 01:37:24.529
Audio shared by Jeez Louize: When I'd get us all into the biggest pickle any of us had ever seen.

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01:37:25.420 --> 01:37:27.049
Jeez Louize: And bro, let me tell you this.

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01:37:27.050 --> 01:37:28.950
Manny: Who's in the brine this week?

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01:37:29.740 --> 01:37:31.920
Jeez Louize: This one's pretty obvious, I think.

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01:37:32.780 --> 01:37:35.330
Manny: But it's… that's the problem with these Jesus.

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01:37:35.330 --> 01:37:36.030
Chairman of cHaOs: We've got a long wait.

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01:37:36.030 --> 01:37:38.450
Manny: It could be so many people. It could be so many people.

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01:37:38.450 --> 01:37:42.480
Jeez Louize: many people. It could be so many people. You're right. First of all.

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01:37:42.630 --> 01:37:46.010
Jeez Louize: He is in the Pickle of the week, but

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01:37:46.380 --> 01:37:49.649
Jeez Louize: If you're listening to this, Nicholas Maduro.

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01:37:50.110 --> 01:37:53.399
Jeez Louize: Let us know how you doing, man. We ain't seen no appearance from you.

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01:37:53.400 --> 01:37:59.529
Chairman of cHaOs: Boy, I ain't heard that man's sentence. Name, picture, name, image, and history.

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01:37:59.530 --> 01:38:04.990
Jeez Louize: We ain't got no updated mugshot. We don't know if he still got the Nike Tech suit.

1147
01:38:04.990 --> 01:38:08.740
Manny: Like, has he gotten another one? Is it still the same one? Is it comfortable?

1148
01:38:08.740 --> 01:38:09.320
Chairman of cHaOs: They aren't…

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01:38:09.320 --> 01:38:10.420
Manny: Looks…

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01:38:10.420 --> 01:38:13.420
Jeez Louize: Bruh, right, like, yeah, check in, we forget.

1151
01:38:13.420 --> 01:38:14.350
Manny: Questions.

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01:38:14.350 --> 01:38:19.139
Jeez Louize: Well, yeah, check in if they letting you listen to the podcast out there in jail.

1153
01:38:19.140 --> 01:38:20.890
Chairman of cHaOs: Tell the people you're JPEG.

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01:38:22.930 --> 01:38:26.459
Jeez Louize: Look, they got… they give you a tablet so you can FaceTime, we'll call you.

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01:38:27.430 --> 01:38:30.760
Jeez Louize: We'll call you and tap in. We can bring you on the episode. We can pat you in.

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Jeez Louize: But, Pickles is not our pickle of the Week, but our pickle of the Week is none other than…

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Jeez Louize: A man who went from the hills to the political valley, and that is Spencer…

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Jeez Louize: Pratt. So, as many of you know, Spencer ran for mayor of Los Angeles after losing his, Palisades home in the wildfire. So, he built his campaign, around the anger over the city leadership, wildfire response, homelessness, crime, and the idea that LA needed an outsider to shake things up.

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Jeez Louize: But after the votes, kept coming in, and I will say, I at least put in the group chat, I thought, I was like, you know what? He might actually take that number 2 spot.

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Jeez Louize: But, essentially, the melon ballads, man.

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01:39:18.890 --> 01:39:22.050
Jeez Louize: The mail-in ballot's gonna get you every time.

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Manny: And Mr. Trump be trying to stop him.

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Jeez Louize: He'd be trying to stop the mail-in ballots, but, you know, he was in number 2, the mail-in ballots came, they started counting, and he fell to third place, and is now going to miss the November, runoff. So…

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Jeez Louize: he tried to turn, you know, the celebrity attention into political power, but in LA, basically, they remember you from reality TV, run, they just won't feeling it.

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Jeez Louize: So, he tried, he tried, he tried, and, you know, I thought when he was going to concede, I should have known, the way that he's been running his campaign, that he wasn't gonna go out, without a bang or without swinging, at least.

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Jeez Louize: But, you know, normally, typically, when people concede, you know, they ride off gracefully. That's the political thing to do, right? But after conceding, he basically dropped a video reportedly declaring war on the two remaining candidates moving forward. So…

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Jeez Louize: Spencer, that's why you're in the pickle jar, man. It's not just because you lost, brother.

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Manny: That's how you.

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Jeez Louize: lose everything.

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Manny: Yeah.

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Jeez Louize: We just lose everything. Every time.

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01:40:28.420 --> 01:40:29.370
Jeez Louize: They lose everything.

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01:40:29.370 --> 01:40:32.400
Manny: Look, there can't be a winner if there ain't a loser.

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Jeez Louize: It ain't a… bro.

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Jeez Louize: Hey, bro.

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01:40:35.140 --> 01:40:35.880
Jeez Louize: And…

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Chairman of cHaOs: Sounds fair.

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Jeez Louize: Second?

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01:40:37.460 --> 01:40:41.300
Jeez Louize: He came in third place, so that's just… second place loser, so I mean…

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Manny: Isn't it?

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Chairman of cHaOs: Look…

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01:40:42.960 --> 01:40:45.690
Manny: He did better than Nancy Mace, who finished fifth.

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Jeez Louize: Hey, listen, hey, for what it's worth, you did better than her, but he's in the pickle jar because he lost the mayor's race and responded.

1184
01:40:54.610 --> 01:41:00.250
Jeez Louize: Basically, in fashion of what he's used to, like a season finale cliffhanger. So…

1185
01:41:00.350 --> 01:41:01.520
Manny: Spencer?

1186
01:41:01.570 --> 01:41:07.070
Jeez Louize: Hey, man, that's… you're officially the pickle of the weed, man. You tried to go from reality TV villain…

1187
01:41:07.300 --> 01:41:11.749
Jeez Louize: The city hall savior, but the voters hit you with the ultimate plot twist, brother.

1188
01:41:12.010 --> 01:41:14.609
Jeez Louize: You got canceled. Cancellation, brother.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Better luck next time!

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Jeez Louize: So sorry. That trump card didn't work this time, bruh.

1191
01:41:21.290 --> 01:41:24.889
Jeez Louize: And, everybody can go from reality TV

1192
01:41:25.080 --> 01:41:32.590
Jeez Louize: to the big house, man. It just don't happen, and unfortunately, that has landed you as the pickle of the week. So, brothers.

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Jeez Louize: We've reached that point episode where, we give out our spotlights of the week. So I'm gonna start with you, Manny. What is your spotlight, of the week?

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Manny: Well, we're gonna come on back home to the great state of North Carolina, and right now, there is a bill in Raleigh that is stuck in committee.

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Manny: But… what is it? So, North Carolina House Bill 958, election law changes.

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Manny: It is a 36 omnibus bill… 36-page omnibus bill, that impacts how ballots are counted.

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Manny: how voter rolls are controlled, citizenship, citizenship checks, board power, campaign money. There is a ranked choice voting ban.

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Manny: They put it all in once, hence the name, Omnibus. So, it was sponsored by Hugh Blackwell and Sarah Stevens.

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Manny: And if it passes, most of the things in it won't take effect until 2027… 2027.

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Manny: After the election.

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Manny: But who does it help, who doesn't hurt? So…

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Manny: There's some things in here that I think everyone can take. There's a little bit… there's a little bit for everyone. This is not a completed, like, one side, his side, her side. There are wins for everyone, so it's not like your typical, like, villain-hero story.

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Manny: For Republicans, some of the things, I think, that are generated out of it is it concentrates discretion in the state board and its executive director to the auditor, who are… who, at this point, all Republican-controlled.

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Manny: Systemized voter challenges through new statewide audits and mandatory county chair, challenges, and setting that up as a pipeline.

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Manny: There are citizenship verifications, weekly and monthly roll maintenance, for people who have died, people who have moved, and a non-citizen removal directive that we've heard coming out of a lot of states is also parted in there.

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Manny: They ban ranked choice voting, which is one of those things that is getting real interesting now with the thoughts around it, especially when you consider what we talked about, earlier about the study and the American public being broken down into 9… essentially 9 different sub-parties.

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Manny: And another piece that I found really, really interesting is the party affiliation window.

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Manny: So, if, let's say, Chuck is a Republican, and he decides 90 days before an election, he's gonna switch and register as a Democrat to run.

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Manny: It used to be a 90-day window. This is taking that 90-day window to a full year, 365 days.

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Manny: So now you can't just do 3 months out, let's go ahead and switch parties and run for office. You have to have held that party,

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Manny: Label for a year now.

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01:44:55.580 --> 01:44:58.469
Manny: The… there's a gag.

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Manny: That they've also put on this for board members, from promoting voting turnout.

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Manny: And then it also shields board and legal strategy from public records, so it lets plaintiffs sue in their home counties, so potentially getting them friendlier venues if they want to challenge things. That's everything that's favorable for, kind of, Republicans. For Democrats.

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Manny: It extends cure and counting windows from 3 days to 5 days, so if there's an error in the ballot, you get an extra 2 business days to fix, and then count those ballots.

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Manny: One of the big things that we saw, especially this time, when votes were thrown out.

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Manny: they threw out the entire ballot. There's a change in here where if they've changed your voting district and you got the wrong ballot, instead of throwing out the entire ballot, they throw out only the votes that were in the affected races. So if you're looking at, like, where all this redistricting is happening, and you are in Congressional District 1,

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Manny: And… you were actually supposed to be in Congressional District 2, all your other county-level votes would still hold.

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Manny: It adds a signature cure right for provisional ballots. Currently, there's not one of those today. And it expands observer access and bans paying petition circulators per signature.

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Manny: Broadly, that's probably just good. You should not be paying people for signatures, especially when we're talking about government

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Manny: governmental efforts.

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Manny: And then it's… the other pieces that are genuinely mixed, so the biggest one that I saw on… in that… in the mixed category is expanded observers.

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Manny: In some places, great… greater transparency for the boards and the bodies that are doing it, but the flip side of it is you expand the number of people who are able to sit and watch, the opportunities for potentially intimidation also now greatly increase,

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Manny: As this continues.

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Manny: So, again… Some of this bill expands the access, it gives more time to fix ballots, and…

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Manny: On the other piece, it kind of restricts. You know, when we look at efforts like Souls to the Polls that are usually backed.

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Manny: By the county election boards in terms of verbally, like, hey, getting more people to vote to interject that kind of gag order on them is potentially harmful to some of these efforts, and especially if you just look at the amount of times that people are asked to vote.

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Manny: Any effort to encourage people To get out and vote is usually good for turnout.

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Manny: So, what should you do? Well, we're all kind of in a watching this, well, you can always call your legislator.

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Manny: Right? So, right now, it's in committee, it's not hit the floor yet, but this is something that I feel like most people in North Carolina should watch very closely, because this kind of changes the rules of engagement and how this will move forward.

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Manny: That don't necessarily impact this election, but they could affect other ones down the road.

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Manny: So, we'll see how this has progressed. Other versions of this have been, you know, died immediately as they hit committee, or have died when they hit the floor, so it'll be interesting to see what happens as this bill progresses, and what it looks like.

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Manny: Now, versus any point that it would hit the floor with amendments.

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Manny: So, North Carolina continues to be interesting all the time, and that…

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Manny: is my spotlight of the week.

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Chairman of cHaOs: You know, I really, I really like that aspect of extending the time period.

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Manny: Yeah.

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01:48:54.100 --> 01:48:55.649
Chairman of cHaOs: We want to change parties.

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Chairman of cHaOs: First off, that's common… to me, that's a common sense thing. Like, I'm supposed to trust you, and your ideologies, and you just changed?

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Manny: Well, you look back to even this congressional primary, where you had, geez, I forgot her name, but, there was a woman out in western North Carolina who changed her party to run against, I believe it was Tim Moore? I feel like that's who he went?

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Manny: As a Republican, being like, hey, I'm really… her whole thing was, I'm a Democrat, but I… because a Democrat cannot win here, and my voice is not gonna get heard, I'm running as a Republican, so you have to hear my voice. So, efforts like that.

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Manny: And it wouldn't shock me if it was specifically that effort in general that now made… that encouraged this to be added to this bill.

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01:49:52.680 --> 01:49:57.140
Chairman of cHaOs: Oh yeah, very much so. There… there was, like, a… there was a,

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Chairman of cHaOs: Democratic candidate for the, Georgia primary, and his name slips me right now, and I'm not gonna waste my time looking for him, but he was a Republican, and in this cycle of this, election period.

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Chairman of cHaOs: granted, it was more than 90 days, but he changed, and I know one of the arguments that people who were not in support of him

1246
01:50:21.770 --> 01:50:23.929
Chairman of cHaOs: Whereas where you voted with…

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Chairman of cHaOs: Kemp on a lot of things, on the state level, and, you know, was a part of the, abortion ban, and different things. So, what makes it different now for you?

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Manny: They pulled them receipts.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Oh yeah, for sure, for sure. So, I just like the notion of, you know, give it some time, show me… show me to prove it to me. That's very dope.

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Jeez Louize: Alright, Chip, what's your spotlight, brother?

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01:50:53.240 --> 01:50:59.780
Chairman of cHaOs: Boy, my spotlight is heavy this week, man. I battled, back and forth if I wanted to…

1252
01:51:00.440 --> 01:51:02.160
Chairman of cHaOs: I'll bring this up, but…

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Chairman of cHaOs: in the end, I felt I would be less of a man if I hadn't said something.

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01:51:06.180 --> 01:51:09.069
Chairman of cHaOs: More importantly, I would be less of a black father.

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01:51:09.190 --> 01:51:10.850
Chairman of cHaOs: If I didn't say something.

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Chairman of cHaOs: On this past week, we got the conviction and sentencing of Carmelo Anthony in the trial down in Texas with the,

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Chairman of cHaOs: murder, of…

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01:51:25.480 --> 01:51:32.419
Chairman of cHaOs: I'm not gonna be… I'm not trying to be disrespectful, I just know the last name, Metcalf, I can't remember his first name, I know he was a twin.

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Chairman of cHaOs: And I'm not here to speak specifically on this trial.

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Chairman of cHaOs: I… caught the highlights of it. I, from an emotional standpoint, I… intentionally…

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Chairman of cHaOs: kept myself away from it. Understanding and knowing…

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01:51:50.860 --> 01:52:05.360
Chairman of cHaOs: The triggers, that it could bring to me, having a son who is about to enter high school, who is in athletics, who is at a school that is overall diverse, but predominantly white.

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Chairman of cHaOs: And being in spaces where…

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Chairman of cHaOs: A lot of times, he is one of very few minority kids around.

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Chairman of cHaOs: I chose to separate myself From the trenches of it.

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Chairman of cHaOs: However, I cannot ignore or separate myself

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Chairman of cHaOs: from the sentencing that came down for this young man. Now, there's been arguments back and forth about the particulars of the trial, again.

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Chairman of cHaOs: I'm not here to try the case. I am not here to play prosecutor or defense attorney.

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Chairman of cHaOs: But for… A 17-year-old to be sentenced to 35 years in prison.

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01:52:50.310 --> 01:52:52.940
Chairman of cHaOs: is insane to me, or he might be 18 now.

1271
01:52:53.140 --> 01:52:55.580
Chairman of cHaOs: But he was 17 when this happened.

1272
01:52:56.440 --> 01:52:57.740
Chairman of cHaOs: is insane.

1273
01:52:59.790 --> 01:53:07.399
Chairman of cHaOs: he was… Exemplary student, student athlete, No prior criminal history.

1274
01:53:09.860 --> 01:53:14.080
Chairman of cHaOs: 35 years, to me, It's first degree murder.

1275
01:53:16.670 --> 01:53:18.790
Manny: Where there is clear intention.

1276
01:53:18.790 --> 01:53:26.860
Chairman of cHaOs: Clear intent. Clear… malicious intent. Premeditated intent.

1277
01:53:28.840 --> 01:53:30.360
Chairman of cHaOs: 35 years.

1278
01:53:31.030 --> 01:53:37.250
Chairman of cHaOs: And… what makes it worse… Texas is a stand-your-ground state.

1279
01:53:39.130 --> 01:53:42.520
Chairman of cHaOs: And we have several instances of staying your ground.

1280
01:53:42.960 --> 01:53:49.790
Chairman of cHaOs: Where I'm not even asking for him to have been acquitted. Again, this is not me here to… to…

1281
01:53:50.850 --> 01:53:52.200
Chairman of cHaOs: Retry the trial.

1282
01:53:52.970 --> 01:53:57.830
Chairman of cHaOs: But also in Texas, there was a young man in a very similar situation.

1283
01:53:58.300 --> 01:54:00.000
Chairman of cHaOs: Named Kaysen Allison.

1284
01:54:00.640 --> 01:54:02.369
Chairman of cHaOs: This is a white young man.

1285
01:54:03.050 --> 01:54:11.120
Chairman of cHaOs: Very similar situation, in fact, in regards to it being a high school student, and a…

1286
01:54:12.000 --> 01:54:14.169
Chairman of cHaOs: Student was fatally stabbed.

1287
01:54:14.810 --> 01:54:17.470
Chairman of cHaOs: Because of an incident back in 2022.

1288
01:54:20.830 --> 01:54:25.119
Chairman of cHaOs: And in this, He got a 10-year sentence.

1289
01:54:29.270 --> 01:54:34.369
Chairman of cHaOs: He was criminally negligent homicide was the conviction.

1290
01:54:36.360 --> 01:54:37.380
Chairman of cHaOs: to me.

1291
01:54:37.570 --> 01:54:43.110
Chairman of cHaOs: And the, again, the highlights… I got the highlights of this case, I'm not trying to retry it.

1292
01:54:44.270 --> 01:54:48.390
Chairman of cHaOs: It's very similar to what… showed forth…

1293
01:54:48.640 --> 01:54:53.410
Chairman of cHaOs: with Carmelo Anthony. Criminally negligent homicide.

1294
01:54:54.530 --> 01:54:55.650
Chairman of cHaOs: Not murder.

1295
01:54:56.300 --> 01:55:01.470
Chairman of cHaOs: Amy, and y'all need to understand, there is a distinct difference

1296
01:55:01.970 --> 01:55:05.910
Chairman of cHaOs: in this, in the definition of law. This is not a personal opinion.

1297
01:55:06.760 --> 01:55:15.969
Chairman of cHaOs: If you go and read the legal definition of murder, And criminally negligent homicide?

1298
01:55:17.160 --> 01:55:18.930
Chairman of cHaOs: Intent is the number one thing.

1299
01:55:19.790 --> 01:55:21.909
Chairman of cHaOs: But they're different definitions.

1300
01:55:22.280 --> 01:55:27.909
Chairman of cHaOs: Then I go… the countless cases, you got Kyle Rittenhouse up in Minnesota.

1301
01:55:28.720 --> 01:55:32.970
Chairman of cHaOs: This man crossed state lines, With an assault rifle.

1302
01:55:34.060 --> 01:55:37.080
Chairman of cHaOs: intending To do something with it.

1303
01:55:38.300 --> 01:55:39.820
Chairman of cHaOs: Then killed!

1304
01:55:40.250 --> 01:55:41.619
Chairman of cHaOs: an individual.

1305
01:55:42.190 --> 01:55:46.140
Chairman of cHaOs: And I'mma let you know this is not about being black, because the person he killed wasn't black.

1306
01:55:48.570 --> 01:55:49.830
Chairman of cHaOs: He got off.

1307
01:55:52.050 --> 01:55:53.430
Manny: Yep.

1308
01:55:54.960 --> 01:55:57.290
Chairman of cHaOs: Then we can continue on.

1309
01:55:57.640 --> 01:56:02.019
Chairman of cHaOs: What's his name? Daniel, Daniel Penny, up in New York.

1310
01:56:02.440 --> 01:56:06.550
Chairman of cHaOs: The former Marine who choked out the man who was having a mental health issue.

1311
01:56:06.740 --> 01:56:12.329
Chairman of cHaOs: And he got off because he said he felt his life was in danger, and was protecting the others.

1312
01:56:14.080 --> 01:56:19.220
Chairman of cHaOs: And then finally, I'm not even gonna call his name, because…

1313
01:56:19.720 --> 01:56:23.669
Chairman of cHaOs: Again, this particular case made me very upset.

1314
01:56:24.080 --> 01:56:29.320
Chairman of cHaOs: But, wow, I just lost a young man's name.

1315
01:56:30.910 --> 01:56:32.369
Chairman of cHaOs: Carson…

1316
01:56:32.910 --> 01:56:34.510
Manny: Oh.

1317
01:56:34.940 --> 01:56:36.750
Chairman of cHaOs: Oh my god.

1318
01:56:36.750 --> 01:56:37.590
Manny: Ugh…

1319
01:56:37.590 --> 01:56:43.119
Chairman of cHaOs: Jasmine… Oh, excuse me, I got it. Cyrus Karmic Belton.

1320
01:56:44.000 --> 01:56:50.040
Chairman of cHaOs: And… Rick Chow… in South Carolina, who shot this boy in his back.

1321
01:56:51.700 --> 01:56:54.620
Chairman of cHaOs: Because they said they thought he was stealing water.

1322
01:56:55.060 --> 01:56:55.660
Manny: Right.

1323
01:56:55.950 --> 01:56:57.040
Chairman of cHaOs: Out of this store.

1324
01:56:57.580 --> 01:56:58.720
Chairman of cHaOs: Still in water.

1325
01:57:00.220 --> 01:57:00.940
Chairman of cHaOs: Now, people…

1326
01:57:00.940 --> 01:57:02.559
Manny: Hydrogen's an oxygen.

1327
01:57:03.000 --> 01:57:07.349
Chairman of cHaOs: People who need to be shot about stealing water is these people in these data centers. That's who need to be shot.

1328
01:57:07.350 --> 01:57:09.440
Jeez Louize: Right. Facts.

1329
01:57:11.820 --> 01:57:13.530
Chairman of cHaOs: But to be shot in your back.

1330
01:57:14.520 --> 01:57:18.480
Chairman of cHaOs: Not… I'm coming towards you.

1331
01:57:19.820 --> 01:57:24.329
Chairman of cHaOs: I'm running away from you, and by all accounts and video footage, he was running away from them.

1332
01:57:24.870 --> 01:57:30.450
Chairman of cHaOs: But again, this is not to retry this. My whole point of bringing these up is…

1333
01:57:30.770 --> 01:57:39.080
Chairman of cHaOs: kind of parallel to what I was saying earlier, and I think my spotlight kind of bled into that response, but what are we doing as a country

1334
01:57:39.390 --> 01:57:42.699
Chairman of cHaOs: To say that we are truly one people.

1335
01:57:43.770 --> 01:57:50.780
Chairman of cHaOs: When so many times, And time again, we show that there's a disparaging difference

1336
01:57:50.950 --> 01:57:57.379
Chairman of cHaOs: And how one sec- segment, one sector, is viewed from others.

1337
01:57:59.510 --> 01:58:00.620
Chairman of cHaOs: What are we doing?

1338
01:58:01.650 --> 01:58:06.740
Chairman of cHaOs: And so, in this, I want you to put a mirror to your face.

1339
01:58:07.680 --> 01:58:09.640
Chairman of cHaOs: Black, Why?

1340
01:58:10.230 --> 01:58:13.010
Chairman of cHaOs: Asian, Chinese, Japanese.

1341
01:58:13.840 --> 01:58:19.209
Chairman of cHaOs: Indian, Pacific Islander, I don't care who you are. Put a… put a mirror to your face.

1342
01:58:20.150 --> 01:58:23.889
Chairman of cHaOs: And ask yourself, What am I doing?

1343
01:58:24.350 --> 01:58:32.240
Chairman of cHaOs: to contribute to the… Disenfranchisement of the next man.

1344
01:58:32.930 --> 01:58:34.290
Chairman of cHaOs: What am I doing?

1345
01:58:34.510 --> 01:58:37.510
Chairman of cHaOs: to put down… the next man.

1346
01:58:38.540 --> 01:58:41.260
Chairman of cHaOs: Because if we're truly one nation under God.

1347
01:58:41.620 --> 01:58:43.740
Chairman of cHaOs: We're doing a poor job of executing that.

1348
01:58:45.580 --> 01:58:47.449
Chairman of cHaOs: That's my spotlight this week, brothers.

1349
01:58:48.560 --> 01:58:49.270
Jeez Louize: Yay.

1350
01:58:49.630 --> 01:58:53.039
Jeez Louize: But I, like… Well done, brother, well done.

1351
01:58:53.310 --> 01:58:55.160
Jeez Louize: Done with that message that…

1352
01:58:55.790 --> 01:59:04.559
Jeez Louize: We oftentimes need to hear, and if you didn't go to church, you got your sermon today from the chairman of Chaos himself.

1353
01:59:05.080 --> 01:59:08.520
Jeez Louize: So I'll round it up with my spotlight.

1354
01:59:09.240 --> 01:59:23.229
Jeez Louize: My spotlight, I wanted to talk about something that, may not be grabbing headlines, like inflation that we talked about, or wars, or, election, but it raises a bigger question about who gets to decide how America

1355
01:59:23.480 --> 01:59:38.979
Jeez Louize: tells his own story. This week, this past week, a federal judge ordered the Trump administration to restore historical and scientific information that had been removed or altered at national parks across the country.

1356
01:59:38.980 --> 01:59:39.840
Manny: The ruling?

1357
01:59:42.370 --> 01:59:52.019
Jeez Louize: That didn't, that didn't last long, but the ruling centers on signs, exhibits, and displays, discussing topics like slavery.

1358
01:59:52.230 --> 02:00:08.119
Jeez Louize: Civil rights, Native American history, and climate change. For those of you that are not aware, back in 2025, when the Sharpie had a, had so much, heat on it, from Trump signing so many executive orders.

1359
02:00:08.120 --> 02:00:09.010
Chairman of cHaOs: Thank you.

1360
02:00:09.010 --> 02:00:10.940
Manny: That they was smoking. That thing a little…

1361
02:00:10.940 --> 02:00:23.849
Jeez Louize: fire, bruh. But, President Trump signed an executive order called Restoring Truth and Sanity to American History, which is a very, very odd top, executive order to call.

1362
02:00:24.740 --> 02:00:25.180
Manny: brand.

1363
02:00:25.180 --> 02:00:27.190
Jeez Louize: But on brand, for sure.

1364
02:00:27.420 --> 02:00:30.220
Jeez Louize: But the administration argued that federal museums

1365
02:00:30.280 --> 02:00:45.309
Jeez Louize: monuments and parks have become too focused on negative aspects of American history and were presenting what it considered politically biased narratives, which is crazy, because it makes me think of what you said at the beginning of the episode, Manny, about

1366
02:00:45.310 --> 02:00:55.139
Jeez Louize: America has done bad. I mean, there's good and bad. You can't have one without the other. But somehow, it's biased to focus on, or at least

1367
02:00:55.140 --> 02:00:57.800
Jeez Louize: Be aware of the negative.

1368
02:00:57.830 --> 02:01:05.569
Jeez Louize: But following the order, the National Park Service reviewed exhibits and signages, that were nationwide. So across numerous parks.

1369
02:01:05.930 --> 02:01:15.729
Jeez Louize: References to slavery, indigenous displacement, civil rights struggles, and climate change were either removed, they were rewritten, or they were flagged for removal.

1370
02:01:16.020 --> 02:01:20.780
Jeez Louize: But this past week, District Judge, Judge Angel Kelly, shout out to you.

1371
02:01:21.130 --> 02:01:28.849
Jeez Louize: Stepped in and issued a preliminary injunction ordering the government to restore the removed materials within 21 days

1372
02:01:29.040 --> 02:01:47.100
Jeez Louize: and halt any further changes while the lawsuit proceeds. So, in this, the judge wrote that the administration appears to be trying to rewrite the nation's history with a whiteout pen. Love that line, that was a bar.

1373
02:01:47.320 --> 02:01:48.230
Jeez Louize: Eyes.

1374
02:01:48.670 --> 02:01:49.660
Manny: She, she…

1375
02:01:49.660 --> 02:01:52.459
Jeez Louize: She was… on that Good Friday, she was on the road.

1376
02:01:52.750 --> 02:01:59.379
Jeez Louize: But whether you agree with the administration or not, that's a powerful statement that she made. The court's argument was very simple.

1377
02:01:59.870 --> 02:02:03.029
Jeez Louize: American history isn't always flattering.

1378
02:02:03.560 --> 02:02:08.450
Jeez Louize: But removing uncomfortable facts doesn't make them disappear.

1379
02:02:10.230 --> 02:02:11.130
Manny: - does not.

1380
02:02:11.130 --> 02:02:12.360
Chairman of cHaOs: Another bar.

1381
02:02:12.530 --> 02:02:20.930
Jeez Louize: Bruh, she… I'm telling you, Kelly was on it. But according to the ruling, telling only the parts of history that makes us feel good

1382
02:02:21.130 --> 02:02:24.940
Jeez Louize: creates an incomplete story.

1383
02:02:25.110 --> 02:02:26.010
Jeez Louize: Nothing.

1384
02:02:26.480 --> 02:02:32.409
Jeez Louize: Now, why does this matter? National parks aren't just places for people to hike, camp, or take family vacations.

1385
02:02:32.410 --> 02:02:47.009
Jeez Louize: They're also where millions of Americans learn about the country's history. So if exhibits discussing slavery disappear from Philadelphia, or if Native American displacement is removed from western parks.

1386
02:02:47.010 --> 02:02:53.750
Jeez Louize: Or if climate science is erased from educational displays, the question becomes, are we preserving history, or are we just editing it?

1387
02:02:53.880 --> 02:03:04.919
Jeez Louize: And that's what's really at stake here. My spotlight isn't, you know, really about signs, it's about who controls the national narrative.

1388
02:03:05.150 --> 02:03:18.310
Jeez Louize: Every administration puts their own stamp on, government agencies. But when those, changes involve history itself, courts, historians, and the public start asking whether the line…

1389
02:03:18.500 --> 02:03:22.669
Jeez Louize: It's between interpretation and censorship.

1390
02:03:22.780 --> 02:03:35.460
Jeez Louize: So, over the next few weeks, we'll see whether the administration appeals, the ruling and whether those exhibits are restored as ordered. The administration got a lot on their hands, so this might be going on.

1391
02:03:35.460 --> 02:03:36.200
Chairman of cHaOs: Sweet.

1392
02:03:36.200 --> 02:03:38.130
Manny: Just a thing here and there, not that much.

1393
02:03:38.130 --> 02:03:41.740
Jeez Louize: You know, they might just let this one go ahead and go, but one thing is certain…

1394
02:03:41.900 --> 02:03:47.599
Jeez Louize: History is often, messy, uncomfortable, and controversial.

1395
02:03:47.890 --> 02:03:53.099
Jeez Louize: The question America continues to wrestle with is whether we learn from the whole story.

1396
02:03:53.460 --> 02:04:03.680
Jeez Louize: Or we're just gonna learn from parts of it. And… that's my spotlight of the week. And again, shout out to Judge Kelly for doing your big one on this, because…

1397
02:04:03.950 --> 02:04:09.180
Jeez Louize: You're 100% correct. We… if we're going to… Grow as America.

1398
02:04:09.300 --> 02:04:14.559
Jeez Louize: and move and evolve forward. We can't just pick and choose the stuff that we wanna…

1399
02:04:14.690 --> 02:04:25.710
Jeez Louize: That we want to digest. We need to take in the whole picture. Because, believe it or not, into things that Brother Chuck has said and Brother Manny has spoken of as well.

1400
02:04:26.360 --> 02:04:34.899
Jeez Louize: If we are able to take in the good and the bad, it creates something within us as Americans. It creates compassion, it creates empathy.

1401
02:04:35.260 --> 02:04:40.890
Jeez Louize: And we can actually be a better people going forward if we understand. We're not asking

1402
02:04:41.270 --> 02:04:43.720
Jeez Louize: For you to apologize.

1403
02:04:44.040 --> 02:04:44.719
Jeez Louize: We're just asking.

1404
02:04:44.720 --> 02:04:45.300
Chairman of cHaOs: I am.

1405
02:04:45.300 --> 02:04:47.459
Jeez Louize: Well, yeah, I need my 48.

1406
02:04:47.840 --> 02:04:48.540
Jeez Louize: Ew, never mind.

1407
02:04:49.980 --> 02:04:50.510
Jeez Louize: Hmm.

1408
02:04:50.620 --> 02:04:57.890
Jeez Louize: But… If you, if you at least know and inform yourself, just maybe you got a chance.

1409
02:04:58.280 --> 02:05:00.650
Jeez Louize: To understand the next man.

1410
02:05:00.810 --> 02:05:05.700
Jeez Louize: Or a woman beside you. Having that compassion, having that empathy, and that, to me.

1411
02:05:06.130 --> 02:05:12.100
Jeez Louize: is what it means to be American, meaning to be a patriot, understanding those things, not…

1412
02:05:12.310 --> 02:05:19.819
Jeez Louize: Deleting them, diluting them, whiting out over them as if they didn't exist, and somehow diminish

1413
02:05:20.010 --> 02:05:23.330
Jeez Louize: The next society… the next culture, the next,

1414
02:05:23.450 --> 02:05:31.490
Jeez Louize: group of people, the next race, because instead of acknowledging the flaws of America, you act like they never existed. So, that's my spot.

1415
02:05:31.490 --> 02:05:35.920
Manny: And we could be… A proper people.

1416
02:05:36.100 --> 02:05:37.370
Chairman of cHaOs: Bruh. Reach out?

1417
02:05:37.370 --> 02:05:39.359
Jeez Louize: And then, brother.

1418
02:05:39.360 --> 02:05:42.330
Manny: And then we can be our proper people.

1419
02:05:42.560 --> 02:05:44.579
Chairman of cHaOs: Make this world better, please.

1420
02:05:44.580 --> 02:05:47.950
Jeez Louize: Better place, if you can.

1421
02:05:50.190 --> 02:05:55.380
Jeez Louize: That's all. The moment we stop trying to erase it and just accept it, brother, we can move on, brother.

1422
02:05:55.380 --> 02:05:56.869
Chairman of cHaOs: That's it. That's it, man.

1423
02:05:56.870 --> 02:06:01.310
Jeez Louize: So, and let me tell y'all something, for those of you who find yourself on the other side.

1424
02:06:01.760 --> 02:06:03.990
Jeez Louize: It's easy. It's really easy.

1425
02:06:03.990 --> 02:06:05.259
Chairman of cHaOs: It's real easy!

1426
02:06:05.260 --> 02:06:08.549
Jeez Louize: It takes too much energy to keep that hate.

1427
02:06:09.220 --> 02:06:11.140
Chairman of cHaOs: And it's more fun on this side.

1428
02:06:11.140 --> 02:06:19.259
Jeez Louize: So much more… bruh, look, y'all already got one foot in. Y'all don't enjoy everything that come with everybody culture.

1429
02:06:19.260 --> 02:06:21.359
Chairman of cHaOs: Every… everybody.

1430
02:06:21.360 --> 02:06:26.009
Jeez Louize: everybody culture, but you don't want to accept… I don't get it, bruh. I don't get it.

1431
02:06:27.210 --> 02:06:30.210
Jeez Louize: Find some, find some love, man. Get a little love in your heart.

1432
02:06:30.510 --> 02:06:33.799
Chairman of cHaOs: It'll giddly love in your heart.

1433
02:06:33.900 --> 02:06:40.429
Jeez Louize: But that is the conclusion of our episode. Brothers, anything else? All hearts and minds clear?

1434
02:06:41.110 --> 02:06:44.999
Chairman of cHaOs: I just want to real quick say shout out to the New York Knicks.

1435
02:06:45.560 --> 02:06:46.020
Jeez Louize: Bro.

1436
02:06:46.020 --> 02:06:48.880
Chairman of cHaOs: They did. Shout out to the Knicks, they did it.

1437
02:06:49.190 --> 02:06:57.340
Chairman of cHaOs: Shout out to… and I ain't gonna stand that long, cause… yuck. But shout out to the World Cup, man. The World Cup has popped off.

1438
02:06:57.870 --> 02:07:04.369
Chairman of cHaOs: Usa has won their first, group stage match.

1439
02:07:04.560 --> 02:07:20.699
Chairman of cHaOs: I don't… wherever you are, if you are able to go to a watch party, a fan fest, I highly encourage you, get out, get in the mix, like, perfectly with what my brother just said.

1440
02:07:21.030 --> 02:07:24.400
Chairman of cHaOs: Mingle with other people. It's a great time.

1441
02:07:24.530 --> 02:07:34.049
Chairman of cHaOs: We… I was at one the other day, and it was a blast. And it was all sorts of people out there, and we were coming together, just enjoying

1442
02:07:34.400 --> 02:07:40.399
Chairman of cHaOs: the presence of each other and the camaraderie. Yeah, bro. It's more fun!

1443
02:07:41.050 --> 02:07:42.609
Chairman of cHaOs: It's more fun.

1444
02:07:42.910 --> 02:07:48.479
Jeez Louize: And shout out again to the men's team, because I will say this, I don't know how long y'all can keep it up.

1445
02:07:49.030 --> 02:07:51.499
Jeez Louize: But y'all look… y'all look vastly different.

1446
02:07:51.500 --> 02:07:52.049
Manny: Different energy.

1447
02:07:52.050 --> 02:07:53.610
Jeez Louize: I've seen.

1448
02:07:53.610 --> 02:07:54.250
Manny: Different energy.

1449
02:07:54.250 --> 02:08:01.830
Jeez Louize: I don't know what y'all have changed, I don't know what's going on behind it up until now, but I love the energy in the…

1450
02:08:01.830 --> 02:08:02.289
Chairman of cHaOs: Yes, sir.

1451
02:08:02.290 --> 02:08:08.600
Jeez Louize: that this team has, and I don't believe that I've seen a men's U.S. team look this way in quite some time.

1452
02:08:08.950 --> 02:08:17.760
Manny: And I just want to clarify for the listeners, as of recording, the Game 6 of the NHL playoffs has not begun.

1453
02:08:18.210 --> 02:08:19.200
Manny: And I just…

1454
02:08:19.200 --> 02:08:20.930
Chairman of cHaOs: I just want to say, for the record.

1455
02:08:20.930 --> 02:08:22.209
Jeez Louize: I was about to say, look, look.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Don't say anything.

1457
02:08:24.280 --> 02:08:25.510
Jeez Louize: I don't know what you're about to say.

1458
02:08:25.510 --> 02:08:27.429
Chairman of cHaOs: What about right now.

1459
02:08:27.430 --> 02:08:31.439
Manny: What I'm saying is that I do not plan to watch the game.

1460
02:08:31.440 --> 02:08:33.990
Chairman of cHaOs: Don't call no team names? No.

1461
02:08:33.990 --> 02:08:34.500
Jeez Louize: Yup.

1462
02:08:34.500 --> 02:08:38.110
Chairman of cHaOs: The manic curse is real. And the old saying.

1463
02:08:38.110 --> 02:08:39.570
Jeez Louize: hymns, and the old hymns say.

1464
02:08:40.090 --> 02:08:43.360
Jeez Louize: Never said a mumbling word. Don't you say nothing. Never.

1465
02:08:44.380 --> 02:08:46.739
Jeez Louize: You ever say in a moment where you can keep quiet.

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Chairman of cHaOs: And I gotta give my man his props, I got his name, and I didn't have it earlier. It's Florian… Florian…

1467
02:08:55.440 --> 02:08:56.590
Chairman of cHaOs: Balogun.

1468
02:08:56.830 --> 02:09:03.189
Chairman of cHaOs: And I know that his parents are of a Nigerian descent, so you gotta… you gotta say the last name right.

1469
02:09:03.840 --> 02:09:05.199
Chairman of cHaOs: Lagoon. By lagoon.

1470
02:09:06.510 --> 02:09:06.879
Chairman of cHaOs: Check out.

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02:09:07.110 --> 02:09:12.650
Jeez Louize: Yeah, shout out to you coming to play over in the U.S, bruh, because you didn't have to. You didn't have to, bruh.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Oh, yeah.

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02:09:14.340 --> 02:09:24.899
Jeez Louize: Man, so yeah, enjoy the World Cup, y'all, while it's here. Whoever your team is rooting for. And those of you that are here to watch the games in the U.S,

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Jeez Louize: I know… I know it's a little tight right now. It's a little… the tension is a little tight in America right now, but it's a… it's a really nice place, I promise.

1475
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Chairman of cHaOs: But bruh, it's been hilarious. If you have not seen some of the posts on social media, it's been hilarious of these people coming to America.

1476
02:09:41.270 --> 02:09:43.240
Manny: For the fourth house. Waffles!

1477
02:09:43.240 --> 02:09:51.410
Chairman of cHaOs: discovering stuff. Like, the excitement that I've seen, at least 4 different posts of people talking about, oh, the yellow school bus is real!

1478
02:09:51.790 --> 02:09:52.620
Jeez Louize: Bruh.

1479
02:09:52.740 --> 02:09:54.110
Chairman of cHaOs: I'm a D.

1480
02:09:54.920 --> 02:09:57.669
Chairman of cHaOs: Comma D. It was a guy…

1481
02:09:58.050 --> 02:10:01.050
Chairman of cHaOs: who, experienced Waffle House for the first time here in Atlanta.

1482
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Chairman of cHaOs: I promise, Mike.

1483
02:10:03.880 --> 02:10:05.140
Jeez Louize: And I know that.

1484
02:10:05.140 --> 02:10:06.640
Chairman of cHaOs: Fine diner.

1485
02:10:06.640 --> 02:10:08.480
Jeez Louize: I… what was it, the one that we went to?

1486
02:10:08.480 --> 02:10:09.090
Chairman of cHaOs: Elon.

1487
02:10:09.090 --> 02:10:10.500
Jeez Louize: Carl from Georgia Tech.

1488
02:10:10.740 --> 02:10:11.450
Manny: Mmm.

1489
02:10:11.450 --> 02:10:11.770
Chairman of cHaOs: Yeah.

1490
02:10:11.770 --> 02:10:22.530
Jeez Louize: I believe it… oh, my… that was the first time I seen, like, a Waffle House that big. I'm used to, like, the late nightclubs going big. Right, this is a Waffle Waffle House. This is a waffle mansion.

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02:10:23.550 --> 02:10:25.779
Manny: The Waffle Complex.

1492
02:10:25.780 --> 02:10:44.769
Jeez Louize: A waffle Compound, that's what that was, bruh. But if you're over here in the States, I promise you, the political tension is tight, but it's a really cool place, man, with some pretty cool people if you're in the right area. So, if you get a chance, go to Waffle House, go to Bojangles if you're in the area that got it, but as long as it ain't the one in New York, it ain't gonna do you no justice.

1493
02:10:44.770 --> 02:10:45.719
Chairman of cHaOs: other than one in New York.

1494
02:10:45.720 --> 02:10:51.870
Jeez Louize: And go to Cookout. Get you, get you, get you, it's your trade.

1495
02:10:52.750 --> 02:10:56.360
Chairman of cHaOs: Yeah, and we live here in Atlanta, I don't know what other hosting.

1496
02:10:56.360 --> 02:10:56.730
Jeez Louize: Man, dude.

1497
02:10:56.730 --> 02:11:06.180
Chairman of cHaOs: doing for they Fan Fest, but our Fan Fest is lit. Every match. It's amazing. Like, there's watch parties all over the metro area.

1498
02:11:06.180 --> 02:11:07.610
Jeez Louize: Imagine, bro. I know what.

1499
02:11:07.610 --> 02:11:08.950
Chairman of cHaOs: The energy is crazy.

1500
02:11:09.110 --> 02:11:15.949
Chairman of cHaOs: You can catch me at Magic City on Monday. They're opening up early for…

1501
02:11:16.400 --> 02:11:22.890
Chairman of cHaOs: who is it? I'm trying to think of the match. It's leaving me, but… I know Spain.

1502
02:11:22.890 --> 02:11:26.599
Jeez Louize: plays, but I don't… I don't know if it's a Spain match. I think Spain play at 3.

1503
02:11:28.200 --> 02:11:35.369
Chairman of cHaOs: I can't remember what match it is. It's a match… oh my god, I… I had it earlier, but yeah, they opened up at 12.

1504
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Jeez Louize: No, no, no, no, it is Spain. It is Spain.

1505
02:11:36.950 --> 02:11:37.590
Chairman of cHaOs: Yes, ma'am.

1506
02:11:37.590 --> 02:11:39.619
Jeez Louize: Yeah, they played as well, yep.

1507
02:11:39.620 --> 02:11:42.030
Chairman of cHaOs: Yeah. So, yeah, I.

1508
02:11:42.470 --> 02:11:43.849
Jeez Louize: play in King Valley, do you?

1509
02:11:44.090 --> 02:11:48.679
Chairman of cHaOs: Cape Verde, that's exactly who it is. How could I forget my Cape Verde in?

1510
02:11:48.680 --> 02:11:49.100
Jeez Louize: That's crazy.

1511
02:11:49.100 --> 02:12:02.309
Chairman of cHaOs: But yeah, it's they're opening at 12 o'clock to show that match, and I said it was gonna be WFM for me, work for Magic, so I'll have my laptop charged up.

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02:12:02.310 --> 02:12:03.130
Jeez Louize: It's real, bruh.

1513
02:12:03.130 --> 02:12:04.680
Chairman of cHaOs: I'm ready to go, man.

1514
02:12:05.040 --> 02:12:23.179
Jeez Louize: But yeah, man, to our listeners, we hope that you enjoy the World Cup, but most of all, hope you enjoy this episode. As always, like, share, follow the pod on all our platforms, go and follow us on Instagram, we're on X, Twitter, we're on YouTube.

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Jeez Louize: We're.

1516
02:12:24.050 --> 02:12:25.200
Manny: IG.

1517
02:12:25.200 --> 02:12:25.680
Jeez Louize: G…

1518
02:12:25.680 --> 02:12:26.920
Manny: Blue sky.

1519
02:12:27.240 --> 02:12:37.300
Jeez Louize: Everywhere. We, we, we everywhere. So, follow us, also subscribe to our YouTube page, where we have releases come out on Monday evenings, live.

1520
02:12:37.300 --> 02:12:48.430
Jeez Louize: And just share the word. You know, if you like the pod, you enjoy what we do here, it don't cost anything to share and help us with that exposure, and if you enjoy it and know somebody that will.

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Jeez Louize: Spread the word, spread the word, spread the world. As always, as we tell you here, if don't nobody love you, just know the boys here at the pod. We love you, we love you.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Yeah, yeah.

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Jeez Louize: We thank you for tuning in and lending us your ear for the duration of this episode, and we hope that it finds you in the best place possible, and we will see you at the next episode. Take care, world.

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Chairman of cHaOs: Peace.

1525
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Jeez Louize: Yay, yay.