There’s No Catchphrase

NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani endorsed three congressional candidates, and all of them won. Two current members of Congress lost their seats, including one backed by Hakeem Jeffries. The hosts discuss what it means for a first-term mayor, just six months into office, to outperform the House Minority Leader in a congressional primary, and whether this has any impact beyond Brooklyn. 

The Supreme Court released three major rulings in one week, each decided by a 6-3 vote. Damon Landor, a Rastafarian man in a Louisiana prison, had his 20-year dreadlocks forcibly cut. The court agreed his rights were violated, but said he cannot sue. Another ruling ended legal status for 350,000 Haitians under TPS. Manny highlights Clarence Thomas’s comments, and Chuck explains the significance. In the asylum metering case, the court ruled that people standing on the Mexican side of the border have not technically “arrived” in America. Chuck reads the official definition of asylum. 

For Pickle of the Week, they look at North Carolina’s public school system, which is now the seventh-most-economically segregated in the country, 72 years after Brown v. Board. 

In the Spotlights segment: Manny covers North Carolina’s tampon tax bill, Chuck talks about Africa’s World Cup run in Atlanta, and Jeezy, a devout Christian, shares why he opposes Texas requiring Bible passages in public schools: “Faith is not faith if it’s forced. It’s just compliance.” S3E26.

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Jeez Louize: Hello, world. Welcome to Pardon the Politics Podcast, Season 3, Episode 26. Along for the ride, I have

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Jeez Louize: My brother Manny with me. Manny, how.

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MannyMaCoo: Yo, what's good? Doing well, doing well.

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Jeez Louize: Good, brother. We got also with us for another edition of partner politics, none other than the chairman of chaos himself. Brother Chuck, how you doing?

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Chairman of Chaos: Really?

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Jeez Louize: The.

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Chairman of Chaos: Bruh, I am dog tired.

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Chairman of Chaos: Listen, I might have to renounce this active present.

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Chairman of Chaos: Fatherhood day of dog time, bro. I'm hang over now. So, but golly, man.

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MannyMaCoo: Family be having you out here running.

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Chairman of Chaos: Listen, between the free Uber service during the week, this to that this past weekend, I,

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Chairman of Chaos: Took my family to a water park.

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Chairman of Chaos: You know…

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Chairman of Chaos: Adding another memory, another layer. My kids are older, so, you know, I have to be very strategic in the activities that we do.

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Chairman of Chaos: To to really evoke some emotion.

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MannyMaCoo: Okay.

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Chairman of Chaos: They'd be like, you know, I miss the days and I get a little envious of you guys where the simple things can make them excited.

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MannyMaCoo: Yep. You gotta be extravagant now with age.

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Chairman of Chaos: I gotta I gotta do something that that hits my pockets.

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Jeez Louize: Mmhm.

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Chairman of Chaos: But, but man, besides that, it's a good time, had a good time, enjoyed, enjoyed that family time, but yeah, man, we, we here, ready to rock and roll.

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Jeez Louize: Hey, man, you got to pay to play, man. You got to put those memories in, man, to do what you got to do when you're ready.

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Chairman of Chaos: With Rick Class A, to be the man, you gotta beat the man.

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Jeez Louize: Yes, sir. Excuse me.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yes, sir.

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Jeez Louize: Well, to our listeners, I myself am, your co-host Jeezy, along with my two other brothers, and…

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Jeez Louize: Yeah, man, we're here for another episode, so we appreciate you tuning back in. If this is your first time, we welcome you once, we welcome you twice, we welcome you three times, in the name of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

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MannyMaCoo: Thank you.

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Chairman of Chaos: Man.

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Jeez Louize: And before we get into our topics, this will be the last episode.

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Jeez Louize: Of… of the month.

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Jeez Louize: So we want to say in this final episode before we begin.

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Jeez Louize: Happy Pride Month to our president, President Donald J. Trump. Happy Pride Month, President.

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Chairman of Chaos: That's.

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Jeez Louize: I just want to make sure that we tell you a Happy Pride Month, because I was not aware that you observed the holiday of the month. But apparently, with the love and affection you have for Barack Hussein Obama, have you ever heard of him?

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Jeez Louize: I'm going to assume that you observed this this month. So we want to tell you happy Pride Month, President Trump. So.

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Chairman of Chaos: That that's the only explanation for you to.

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Chairman of Chaos: Talk about him as much as you do, in the most…

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Jeez Louize: Okay.

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Chairman of Chaos: out-of-left-field moments to Obama noticing it on a podcast this past week that released, talked about it, and was like, you know, I'm… for some reason, I'm living in that guy's head, but he doesn't act like that when we're face-to-face.

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Chairman of Chaos: To the rant, the most random picture posting.

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Jeez Louize: Right.

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MannyMaCoo: It don't make any sense.

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Chairman of Chaos: Not just picture posting side by side.

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Jeez Louize: Why do you have a picture of that man in your phone?

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MannyMaCoo: And then took time, and that probably wasn't his first picture option. He probably cycled through several picture options.

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Chairman of Chaos: Oh yeah.

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Chairman of Chaos: He had.

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MannyMaCoo: Oh, that one.

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Chairman of Chaos: Because if you, if you search Barack Obama, that photo that he, he posted is not gonna be the first one that pops up.

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Jeez Louize: No, you got it.

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Chairman of Chaos: Absolutely.

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MannyMaCoo: not.

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Chairman of Chaos: Of presidential photos that's gonna pop up.

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Chairman of Chaos: Quite honestly, has he ever posted a picture of his kids? Well, besides Ivanka, the little creep.

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Jeez Louize: Bru.

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MannyMaCoo: Mmm. Yep.

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Jeez Louize: Not that I know of.

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MannyMaCoo: No, not…

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Jeez Louize: But maybe he picked that picture because he felt when he put that picture side by side, that was…

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Jeez Louize: the cutest picture that he could find of Barack Obama, and he said, this is… we look good, we look like two baddies together.

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MannyMaCoo: It is.

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Chairman of Chaos: He looked.

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Jeez Louize: I look good. I look good. We look good together, baby.

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Chairman of Chaos: Good evening.

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Jeez Louize: Posted with no words, no explanation. He didn't say anything. It's just look at me and look at him. Don't we look good together?

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Chairman of Chaos: Oh, yeah.

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MannyMaCoo: I had to type Barack Hussein Obama, 18 years old.

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MannyMaCoo: And he still… that picture he used is still not the first one. It is the eighth photo option.

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Chairman of Chaos: That's crazy. What time?

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MannyMaCoo: Went search.

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Jeez Louize: side by side.

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MannyMaCoo: Probably during time he should have been sleeping.

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MannyMaCoo: Right.

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Jeez Louize: even more, even more of what Obama said. Why am I living rent free? Why do I have a suite in your head that you think about me?

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Jeez Louize: So.

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Chairman of Chaos: Presidential suite. Yes. Not.

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Jeez Louize: It doesn't eat Full out minibar, panorama view.

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MannyMaCoo: It's been almost… 10 years since Obama was president.

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MannyMaCoo: Still thinking about him like this man just left the office. But that also might be the dementia kicking in, and he done forgot 2020 on, and he just cycles back and says, oh yeah, he was the president before me.

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Jeez Louize: Dementia dining, bro. It could be, you know, it's just crazy. And on that podcast, Obama made a great point.

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Jeez Louize: that when you're the president, there's so much that you are responsible for. There's 10 to 15 different things, I mean, briefings, everything's just getting thrown at you. You have no time

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Jeez Louize: to worry about what somebody else is saying. If… and I love it, because Obama said, if you're doing…

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MannyMaCoo: You're doing the job right. If you actually drive in the country.

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Jeez Louize: You ain't got time to worry about somebody, and it's crazy because.

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Jeez Louize: You've never… like…

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Jeez Louize: Obama's done. Like, you didn't have to… Now, I can see if he… well, I ain't gonna say I see, because I still think that him even bringing up Joe Biden is just stupid. Joe's gone, he's done his terms, he's out of here. Same with Obama, he's out of here. Why do you keep referring? The only thing that I can attribute it to

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Jeez Louize: is instead of being held accountable for your own actions, you just throw out this fancy little, oh, let me throw this card out here, because I know it has a bad taste in some people's mouth. Bruh, that's not working.

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Jeez Louize: It's not working anymore.

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MannyMaCoo: I think he's just mad he ain't been invited to the presidential group chat.

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MannyMaCoo: And he knows there's.

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Chairman of Chaos: Cause they all, they always hanging out.

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MannyMaCoo: Yes.

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Chairman of Chaos: All the ones that's still alive were hanging out this, what, past week or so? Yep.

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Jeez Louize: You saw how, you saw how George was acting, the one Republican is up there, George.

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Chairman of Chaos: So.

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Jeez Louize: Jordan, like, I'm riding.

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MannyMaCoo: Bye.

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Chairman of Chaos: Very tough.

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MannyMaCoo: And anytime you get George Bush anywhere in the vicinity of Michelle Obama, that man starts showing all 32.

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Jeez Louize: Right. Showing everything.

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MannyMaCoo: And I don.

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Chairman of Chaos: I don't know if he's still got 32, but.

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Jeez Louize: Oh, yeah. I don't know. He got 32.

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Chairman of Chaos: Right.

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Jeez Louize: Seven and a couple of replacements.

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MannyMaCoo: Some possibles.

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Jeez Louize: If it's a crown, do you count it as

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Jeez Louize: But bruh, I mean, when you saw them at the Obama thing, and we'll move on shortly.

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Jeez Louize: It, it's crazy because even if you look at the presidential group chat and even just the wives, right, like Hillary is, is, you know, has a connection with him, George's wife,

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Chairman of Chaos: Hold on, hold.

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Jeez Louize: Obama.

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Chairman of Chaos: Hold on.

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Jeez Louize: Go ahead.

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Chairman of Chaos: Hold on.

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Chairman of Chaos: I don't know about that Hillary connection with them.

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MannyMaCoo: Hillary…

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Chairman of Chaos: Very different.

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MannyMaCoo: Hillary, yeah, Hillary don't like Barack. Barack don't like Hill.

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Chairman of Chaos: They're cordial in public spaces.

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Jeez Louize: Yeah, you're right.

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Chairman of Chaos: I don't know about that connection because I, I, I truly believe Michelle Robinson, and this is not to be disrespectful, this is to take it to the core. Michelle Robinson want to put her hands on Hillary Rodham. Oh yeah.

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Chairman of Chaos: But Michelle Obama.

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Chairman of Chaos: Allows Michelle Robinson to say, when they go low, I'mma go high.

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MannyMaCoo: But even Michelle said, we ain't gotta go, we ain't gotta say hi anymore. We can go low if necessary.

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Chairman of Chaos: That's that Robinson number. That's that Robinson number.

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Jeez Louize: Yes, sir. But you can even see when they're all together.

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Jeez Louize: Sure wouldn't be.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yeah.

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Jeez Louize: Br.

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Chairman of Chaos: Oh no.

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Jeez Louize: I'm gonna tell you who.

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Chairman of Chaos: Melania wouldn't either.

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Jeez Louize: But she wish she, she wish she was though.

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Chairman of Chaos: Oh, she does. She does.

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Jeez Louize: Friend.

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Chairman of Chaos: She wants somebody to just… Girl, where you get your bag from? Where you get that bag from? Like, her and Michelle could have a good time talking about shoes.

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Jeez Louize: Yep. : Melania just wants somebody to love, bruh. : She's like, look.

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MannyMaCoo: And I, like, I low-key kind of feel… I kind of feel bad for her, because, like, at least Trump has ostracized him… himself from the other presidents. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Melania is so, like, Trump is choosing not to have a relationship with them.

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MannyMaCoo: Michelle just got… not Michelle… Melania just got taken for the ride. Wait, wait a second. They're the only ones who understand what it's like to be the First Lady. Can I talk to them? Nope, nope.

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Jeez Louize: Right.

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Jeez Louize: Poor Melania, Poor Melania. Well.

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Chairman of Chaos: Owned to a certain degree. Yeah, that's right. O.

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MannyMaCoo: On you.

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Chairman of Chaos: You signed.

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Jeez Louize: You made that choice. You made that choice. But at any rate, you know, happy proud month, Donnie T.

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Jeez Louize: They only come around once a year, and even though we just observe it on June.

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Jeez Louize: Man, enjoy your pride the rest of the 11 months, brother.

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Jeez Louize: You love Obama, that's okay. Just come outside, bru.

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MannyMaCoo: Just saying, man.

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Jeez Louize: I love the man. I just love him.

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Chairman of Chaos: I love it.

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Jeez Louize: Love them more than you ever know.

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Jeez Louize: Yes, well, sure.

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MannyMaCoo: Let's go over.

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Jeez Louize: Alright, well, for our first segment…

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Jeez Louize: But we got another person that I think Obama might, not Obama, Trump might love, and that's in, going to New York, in New York City, because he has a little bit of a Obama feel for, Matt Donnie, if you ever noticed. He's a great looking guy, he's a good man.

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Chairman of Chaos: You know, you, you make a very valid point.

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MannyMaCoo: Yeah, that.

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Chairman of Chaos: Before Mondani got elected, he talked a lot of trash about that man. Yep.

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MannyMaCoo: And that man got into the Oval Office from…

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Jeez Louize: He came in here.

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MannyMaCoo: Cheesing.

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Jeez Louize: He came in there with that cologne on the diner. He said, what's.

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MannyMaCoo: This is Jordan.

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Chairman of Chaos: hearts around his picture.

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Jeez Louize: Well, in New York, Matt Donnie, man, did something I think that was pretty impressive, and…

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Jeez Louize: has been talked about quite a bit in the headlines. Donnie Cena had been flexing his political muscles this past week.

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Jeez Louize: So, in New York, there were some primaries that were held, I believe, this past Tuesday.

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Jeez Louize: And Matt Donahue did some endorsing. I believe this is his first, round of endorsements given, now as the mayor of New York City. And, he endorsed three candidates. And these three candidates weren't establishment Democrats at all.

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Jeez Louize: They were closely aligned with the progressive wing, and several had ties to the Democratic Socialist movement.

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Jeez Louize: And all three won.

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Jeez Louize: So the message from the progressive voters were very simple, that they want candidates focused on affordability.

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Jeez Louize: housing, healthcare, and economic inequalities, not necessarily traditional, Democratic leadership. So, with the victories that we saw in that, that political muscle that, Matt Downey flexed, during the primaries, Manny, I want to ask you this.

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Jeez Louize: Is this just a New York story that we're seeing, or are we watching the next generation of Democratic leadership take over nationally?

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MannyMaCoo: Maybe?

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MannyMaCoo: You know…

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Chairman of Chaos: Hold on. There you go, Manny. Starting this week again with these one word answers. Maybe.

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MannyMaCoo: Bye.

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Jeez Louize: I think…

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MannyMaCoo: See, again, 20, for me, looking on through the rest of the year.

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MannyMaCoo: The question that I'm seeking to find the answer for is how are Democrats going to screw this up?

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MannyMaCoo: Because they've been handed everything on a platter.

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MannyMaCoo: It'll, it'll be interesting obviously in, in the banes of New York politics I think you're seeing 2 things collide at once I think.

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MannyMaCoo: It's… people are getting fed up with incumbents doing nothing.

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MannyMaCoo: and I don't know which one, you know, you can really tie this to. Whether these 3 incumbents getting tossed are a fact that, hey, these incumbents haven't done anything, we need some people who are actually going to do anything.

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MannyMaCoo: I'm now turning to somebody new, or as we are tired of the beliefs and the setup of the current Democratic Party.

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MannyMaCoo: We want to move more left in our politics. And the decision point from there is going to be very key.

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MannyMaCoo: Of your working class voters.

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MannyMaCoo: And really left-wing politicians. What we saw, I think, nationally, nationally in the last, last national election is them lose the working class voters.

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MannyMaCoo: So, if you look at New York and say, hey, New York is a model of where the party is going.

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MannyMaCoo: then I think we have a problem. Because ultimately, New York, we kind of know all these incumbents will win, just based on how districts are drawn and the reality of it.

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MannyMaCoo: The real question for these districts heading into the midterms later this year is how much these now nominees win by.

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Chairman of Chaos: I mean, your one word, your one word response was sound.

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Chairman of Chaos: However, I want to go to a foundational point that this podcast has said from the very beginning.

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Chairman of Chaos: Your political approach is not a blanket answer.

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Chairman of Chaos: What you see in New York.

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MannyMaCoo: I didn't want to.

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Chairman of Chaos: It's not gonna work.

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Chairman of Chaos: in North Carolina.

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Chairman of Chaos: It's not gonna work.

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Chairman of Chaos: In Nevada. It's not gonna work in Arizona.

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Chairman of Chaos: Now, the reason that Mondani has had such a strong impact

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Chairman of Chaos: First and foremost, you gotta understand, Eric Adams.

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Chairman of Chaos: Open the door.

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Chairman of Chaos: Bruh. From Monda, honey. Eric Adams.

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Jeez Louize: He might have just tore the door off the hinges and just let it.

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Chairman of Chaos: Okay, you're right, you're right. Cuomo.

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Chairman of Chaos: Open the door.

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Jeez Louize: Yep.

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Chairman of Chaos: on Donnie. Yep. Eric Adams unscrewed.

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MannyMaCoo: The hinges. The hinges.

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Chairman of Chaos: And, and let it fall off.

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Chairman of Chaos: Because everything and that ushered the from the messaging of Mondani to come in and be.

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Chairman of Chaos: Be resonating to the people.

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Chairman of Chaos: But what really… Said it set the precedent or really gave the impact. It's his actions.

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Chairman of Chaos: Afterwards.

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Chairman of Chaos: He talked about doing so many things and he's done so.

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Jeez Louize: Oh, man.

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Chairman of Chaos: things. Speeches?

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MannyMaCoo: The comedian Josh Johnson, I was watching one of his interviews, and he's like, Mamdani just found the button that said, oh, make government work, and he just pressed it.

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Chairman of Chaos: Listen

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Chairman of Chaos: This man from filling potholes that people have complained about for ages. And I'm talking about in a short period of time. I know y'all seen the videos of other countries like China, Japan.

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Chairman of Chaos: Somewhere else where they've done construction jobs in 24 hours that would take 3 months here.

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Chairman of Chaos: That's what he's… essentially what he's doing in New York.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yep. Like, that first… that first weekend or so with him being in office, and if I'm not mistaken, if the number's not right, go look it up yourself. There was, like, 9,000 potholes that got filled and fixed.

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Chairman of Chaos: throughout New York that many people had complained about and put in petitions.

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MannyMaCoo: Years. For years.

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Jeez Louize: Years. Yeah.

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Chairman of Chaos: That, as simple as that is, if you've ever driven through New York and hit one of the potholes, forget driving to New York. If you ever drove anywhere and hit one of the potholes.

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MannyMaCoo: Carry your car alignment up.

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Chairman of Chaos: pray that your suspension ain'.

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Jeez Louize: Your CD joint is sitting in your trunk.

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MannyMaCoo: Mmh.

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Jeez Louize: What is it about?

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Chairman of Chaos: So, so when you, when you have that type of impact, regardless if it's a socialist message, the work that is being done.

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Chairman of Chaos: After the messaging, because for so many years we've had politicians promise us the world.

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Chairman of Chaos: It hasn't even given us a globe

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Chairman of Chaos: you got this man coming in and saying, I'm gonna make things work, I'm gonna make things right, and we're gonna fix this, that, and the third, giving daycare. Most recently, and I wanna say 2 days ago, he put a rent freeze for a million residents of New York.

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Chairman of Chaos: Do you know how impactful that is?

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Chairman of Chaos: To those people?

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Chairman of Chaos: Do you know these people, what that will do for people to want to get out and support whoever he puts his name behind?

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Jeez Louize: Brad.

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Chairman of Chaos: Because if he puts his name behind it, and whatever they're saying, I'm gonna believe that they're gonna go out here to do everything they can in their power.

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Jeez Louize: Yep.

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Chairman of Chaos: To make happen whatever they say is going to happen.

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Jeez Louize: Bruh.

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Chairman of Chaos: So.

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Jeez Louize: It's a winning formula. It's a… it.

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Chairman of Chaos: Eas.

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Jeez Louize: And it's an easy formula. Man, I was seeing the videos of him going, like, with the rent freeze that you brought up, Chuck. Like, he's not just simply doing… he's going in these, you know, tenants, you know, residents, and he's like, okay, what is not happening? What… oh, I put this complaint in, look at this, this isn't working, we don't have this.

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Jeez Louize: And he's like, alright, I'mma do something about it, and then a couple of days.

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MannyMaCoo: Something's done about it. Like, yes.

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Jeez Louize: He's all he's doing is saying this is what I said I'm gonna do and what people are elected to do. He's actually doing his job.

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Chairman of Chaos: Because I was just about to say, do your job!

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Jeez Louize: There'.

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Chairman of Chaos: Listen, we're not, we're not, we're not asking you to create a new world. We're not, we're not asking you to go to Mars and mine helium or the moon.

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MannyMaCoo: And, and…

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Chairman of Chaos: Hero Earth.

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MannyMaCoo: That's why I say contrary to a point that we've said even today, but in the past, the piece that they can take from New York is, is do your job, be seen.

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Chairman of Chaos: But he and here's where.

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Chairman of Chaos: You know, here's why, why I started with what I started with because.

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Chairman of Chaos: Although you… it's not a blanket approach.

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Chairman of Chaos: You the ones who are in power now, who's given the messaging, haven't been doing their job.

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Chairman of Chaos: So you…

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MannyMaCoo: You can't take.

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Chairman of Chaos: Listen.

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MannyMaCoo: Mmm.

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Chairman of Chaos: He's been, he's been in power. Listen, the APAC poppy has been.

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Jeez Louize: In place of CD.

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Chairman of Chaos: A pack poppy. And I don't, it pisses me off cause I, I'm gonna shout them out later, but he, he has Cape Verdean descent.

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Chairman of Chaos: And I want to give love to Cabo Verde, but Anyway.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, Hakeem and the likes of the Chuck Schumers and the likes of those individuals.

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Chairman of Chaos: I don't want to hear what you have to say about the Democratic Party and where things are headed and you have

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Chairman of Chaos: Years and years of.

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Jeez Louize: I want to play this clip of, and we've already dropped his name, so I want to go ahead and do that with APAC Poppy, but they asked Hakeem Jeffries what he thought with the victory and the wins that he saw take place in New York City, which, if I'm not mistaken, he's a representative from New York City, correct?

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Chairman of Chaos: Some of those folks that lost, he was backing.

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Jeez Louize: And I think that's the big thing, and maybe he's a little salty, because the people that he…

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Chairman of Chaos: Ain't no maybe. Ain't You know, good and well, ain't no maybe.

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Jeez Louize: It ain't no maybe at all. But this is what he said when he was asked earlier. Well, I think it was like the next day after the results.

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Audio shared by Jeez Louize: What's your relationship with them there, as it stands? It's a very good one, we speak regularly. Do you think Democratic voters want Democrats in Congress to be more progressive

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Audio shared by Jeez Louize: of the House Democratic Caucus, and that answer speaks for itself.

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Jeez Louize: Now I want to say something here.

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Chairman of Chaos: Please do, brother.

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Jeez Louize: Met Donnie better than me.

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Jeez Louize: Cause first of all, what you mean.

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Jeez Louize: I gotta work and do something to prove to y'all, and y'all are sitting up there on the Capitol and ain't doing nothing.

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Jeez Louize: You need to get to work.

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Chairman of Chaos: Listen.

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Jeez Louize: Thank you.

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Chairman of Chaos: You. Where's the ether beat?

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Jeez Louize: Bruh, you need to fire that up on him. Oh, expeditiously.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yes, sir.

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Jeez Louize: I don't have to come to Congress. What do you mean I got to come to Congress and prove and answer? No, I'm doing what I'm supposed to do. I'm trying my best to better the lives of those that are residents within New York City. I don't got to come and prove none to y'all as long as I'm proving to the people.

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MannyMaCoo: Well, now, that's the difference if you look within the same party.

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MannyMaCoo: Hakeem Jeffries versus AOC.

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MannyMaCoo: You look at what they're able to get done. They are both functionally not actually getting stuff done. Like, we just look at the reality.

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Chairman of Chaos: Biting.

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MannyMaCoo: That is appearing to do something.

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Chairman of Chaos: And you know, and I'm glad you brought her up because Not only is she fighting.

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Chairman of Chaos: All of this fighting for her constituents, but not only is she fighting the opposition, she's fighting those within her same party.

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Jeez Louize: Well, and when you look at, you know, that's a great point, Chuck, and when you look at what Hakeem said, I think it's a very interesting thing, and I think it kind of points back to what we've said numerous times on this podcast, of how Democrats always find a way to fluff it up.

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Jeez Louize: You got Democrats immediately beginning to argue over what these wins mean. So you got.

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Jeez Louize: That's a wing that's saying, you know, this proves that voters want bold, progressive policies. But then you got these moderates that are saying, well, wait a minute, slow down.

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Jeez Louize: And you have this Democratic leader and Democratic leaders arguing that, okay, New York's just unique. You know, that was a jab that Hakeem did. When you look at…

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Chairman of Chaos: Oh yeah.

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Jeez Louize: 215.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yes.

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Jeez Louize: yourself what the party want. But how do you know what the party want? Because if you knew what the party want, you'd be getting action and getting results and you clearly not getting none. But you don't.

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Chairman of Chaos: what trips me up. Oh, sorry.

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Jeez Louize: No, go ahead, no, go ahead.

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Chairman of Chaos: I'm saying what trips me out is they're calling this progressive.

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MannyMaCoo: What is progressive…

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Chairman of Chaos: Okay.

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MannyMaCoo: I'll pop.

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Chairman of Chaos: Your promise.

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Jeez Louize: I told y'all I was gonna fill potholes, I fill potholes, and I'm progressive. I've made, so I've made, you know, I brought in where we got childcare reasonable.

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Jeez Louize: For people to afford.

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Chairman of Chaos: Hold on, hold on, hold on, not just people to afford working individuals.

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Jeez Louize: working individuals. We got people that are living in spaces that aren't up to code, that aren't livable, and I'm doing something about it by holding the landlords accountable, and that's progressive? Like…

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Chairman of Chaos: I'm freezing rent on them continuously going up on the cost of rent in a city that is already stupid high, but the, but pay is not going up at the same rate.

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Chairman of Chaos: and I help reduce the cost of childcare, because pay is not going up at the same rate, but childcare is going up. And childcare is going up because the cost of everything that comes associated with providing childcare is going up, because the rent for the facility is going up.

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Chairman of Chaos: That's not progressive.

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Jeez Louize: It's not progressive at all, bro. Like, this tag of throwing progressive on things is getting out of hand. It's not progressive unless you're insured by progressive, and that's two totally different things.

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Chairman of Chaos: Where is Flo?

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Jeez Louize: We need Flo to come straighten all this out because we need the real progressive to stand up like the real Sim Shady. Can the real progressive please stand up? Flo, we need you. We need you to go to Washington to get this iron.

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Chairman of Chaos: Immediately.

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MannyMaCoo: Right.

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Jeez Louize: You know, this exposes the biggest divide inside the Democratic Party today. Do you energize your base or do you appeal to the middle? So Chuck, I'm gonna ask you this, can Democrats actually be both a progressive party in cities like New York and a moderate party?

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Jeez Louize: Everywhere else.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yes.

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Chairman of Chaos: Dang it, I followed Manny's approach.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yes, it can because.

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Chairman of Chaos: Most importantly, yes, New York is unique.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yes. It's very new, unique. But here, here's the thing. There's no one size fits all approach on any end Democrat.

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Chairman of Chaos: Or Republican.

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MannyMaCoo: Right.

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Chairman of Chaos: But what what the Republicans have seemed to master is on the grand scale.

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Chairman of Chaos: They've… they… I want they've unified under an under an umbrella.

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Jeez Louize: Yep.

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Chairman of Chaos: But outside of that umbrella, they do their, they do their own individual things and, and there's, there's some pushback, but yeah, I, I see your, your apprehension on that statement, but listen to this, Manny, although.

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Chairman of Chaos: All Republicans may not say they're MAGA.

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Chairman of Chaos: In, in the grand scheme of pushing GOP forward.

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Chairman of Chaos: They're gonna get on get in line to push GOP forward.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yep, the Dems will fight.

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Chairman of Chaos: Tooth and nail between moderate and progressive and allow the fracture and allow the GOP to step in and get what they want.

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Chairman of Chaos: on the GOP's agenda.

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MannyMaCoo: I…

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MannyMaCoo: You're right, you're right, and I flashed back into my mind because this is the cycle, you know, history keeps repeating itself until you learn this lesson.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yep.

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MannyMaCoo: Where I see the Democrats at right now is the same place the Republican Party was.

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MannyMaCoo: Right after Obama got elected.

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MannyMaCoo: Where you had the whole Tea Party movement.

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MannyMaCoo: and you had all the… and you still have it on the Republican side, you still have the RINOs, the FISCAL conservatives. What Trump was somehow able to do, in his most Trump fashion, is…

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MannyMaCoo: Galvanize all those people behind a why.

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MannyMaCoo: Now, that why was, you know… racism and…

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Chairman of Chaos: It's a nasty Y.

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Jeez Louize: It's a nasty one.

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Chairman of Chaos: But they came together.

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MannyMaCoo: But they all came together behind it, and they're like, okay, well, if that's the message, I can find my carve-out over here, and I can find my carve-out over here. And that's really what you said on your second part, is like, there are carve-outs for everybody.

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MannyMaCoo: But what was so… what's so crazy is that internally in Republican politics, that's one of the things that,

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MannyMaCoo: Republican operatives said that Democrats did very well.

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MannyMaCoo: in the Obama years, is they were all aligned under a Y, and they found their sub-segment. It's like, without that big leadership.

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MannyMaCoo: to produce.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yes.

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MannyMaCoo: Yep, yep. Everyone is fighting for who, who is going to lead. Oh my God.

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Chairman of Chaos: Manny. I just got it. And now there's no catchphrase. There's no catchphrase.

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MannyMaCoo: There's n.

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Chairman of Chaos: For Obama, it was, yes, we can.

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Jeez Louize: Can, yeah.

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Chairman of Chaos: Under Trump, it's Make America Great Again.

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MannyMaCoo: Yep.

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MannyMaCoo: When is next kid?

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Chairman of Chaos: phrase.

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MannyMaCoo: And if you have that, if you have that why, everything else under that becomes easier to figure out. If you have the why, you can, you can drive what the what needs to be and the who.

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Jeez Louize: It looks different for each and every each and every subset of every people, so that yes, we can look different for a ton of people. But the message is clear, just would make America great again. Now you can argue there's a part of that that does not resonate with certain people, but for the vast majority they can say, Okay, well, what does that mean to you?

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Jeez Louize: And then that allows you to go home, and if you're in New York, if you're in North Carolina, if you're in Texas, if you're in Nevada, that looks like something to somebody that they can get behind, and it gets everybody under

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Jeez Louize: that umbrella. So even though you may be under the umbrella for a different reason, you still resonate with us being under the umbrella in the first place, and you have your position.

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MannyMaCoo: And I want to say.

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Jeez Louize: thing with the Democrats is.

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Jeez Louize: Why why don't they understand that?

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MannyMaCoo: Well, I think it's multi-tiered here, because, again, when I say Republicans galvanize behind the why, behind the Make America Great Again, behind the racism, is because

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MannyMaCoo: That was a group of people.

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MannyMaCoo: That was not coming out to vote. That was not engaged. And those messages got them engaged so they could do the what.

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MannyMaCoo: Who is that gap of people that the Democrats are looking at bringing out to participate?

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MannyMaCoo: that have not been active. And I think that's where you get more of this… this separation, this divide. I think you have the Bernie Sanders, the AOCs, the Mamdanis, who are really like, hey, that peop… that group of people we need to drive out

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MannyMaCoo: Are these more left views?

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Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, yeah.

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MannyMaCoo: Versus the more the centrist standpoint, so I think they're trying to cater to this group.

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MannyMaCoo: On on the left to really bring them out now.

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MannyMaCoo: The question is, how big is that group?

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MannyMaCoo: And I can almost guarantee that that group is not as big as the group that you had on the MAGA side.

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MannyMaCoo: So even numerically, I think it's still going to be a problem for the Democrats, and they're going to have to try to figure out how they put together that coalition.

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Chairman of Chaos: To that point, Manny, and I love that you said that, because it turned on a different light for me.

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Chairman of Chaos: I think you're 1000% correct. And what is that group and what those numbers look like?

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Chairman of Chaos: And to our earlier point about just getting the job done.

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Chairman of Chaos: is not so much progressive. Well, it is progressive because for so many years, they didn't get the job done. It was a bunch of lip service. And so, what the Dems face now is not so much

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Chairman of Chaos: Getting a, a missing segment as it is sustaining these numbers of high turnout.

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Chairman of Chaos: and turning those who were… teetering.

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MannyMaCoo: Yep.

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Chairman of Chaos: Because there's a there, that's where the large segment is. Those who were teetering and kind of leaned to the right.

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Chairman of Chaos: But with the right amount of whatever getting the job done, the right messaging can lean them back left to your side to pull them over. Because yes, the messaging of Make America Great Again and the root cause of it

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Chairman of Chaos: There was different aspects that they peeled off.

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Chairman of Chaos: Many people, oh, they want to immigration.

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Chairman of Chaos: Their immigration approach… and their immigration messaging.

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Chairman of Chaos: Was two different tiers.

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Chairman of Chaos: The immigration approach was highly racist.

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Chairman of Chaos: Super raised, I don't care who you are, I'll argue you all day and all night, angels watching over me, my lord.

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Jeez Louize: Sure.

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Chairman of Chaos: Super racist.

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Chairman of Chaos: But their messaging… Of protecting our borders and keeping our citizens safe.

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Chairman of Chaos: Who can argue against that?

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Chairman of Chaos: it's hard… it's hard to argue against, I want to keep our country safe, I want to protect our borders, and not allow the miscreants in, and we just can't have an open border.

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Chairman of Chaos: You, you, from a peer, just looking at it, it's a hard case to argue.

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MannyMaCoo: Reading, just reading the words for what those individual words mean.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yes.

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MannyMaCoo: Super hard.

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Chairman of Chaos: Super hard, however.

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Chairman of Chaos: when we look at the actions and the steps that we're taking after that messaging, we see the root nature of racism in it. So now, with the Democrats and what Mondani has done is…

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Chairman of Chaos: And Jeezy, you brought it up, and it was, it's so simple, but it's so effective.

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Chairman of Chaos: I'm gonna get these potholes fill

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Chairman of Chaos: And within the first week, I got these potholes filled

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Chairman of Chaos: Trump said he was gonna do, get us out of all the wars within the 1st.

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Chairman of Chaos: 24 hours. 24 hours.

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Chairman of Chaos: Here we are a year and a half later.

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MannyMaCoo: And, and new conflicts of mind.

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Jeez Louize: I was about to say, not only did he not get us out of the wars, he got us in new ones. Yes.

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Chairman of Chaos: So, in this… Heart, and see, here we go, about to give somebody game.

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Jeez Louize: Mmhm.

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Chairman of Chaos: Part of that is you need to steer your messaging.

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Chairman of Chaos: We're looking to get the job done. This is these are the

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Chairman of Chaos: I don't care how minute and minuscule it may seem, like, I think the wrong approach that they're going is, and Manny has said this is not going to happen in a short period of time, trying to reverse

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Chairman of Chaos: All of the bad that has happened in the Trump administration.

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Chairman of Chaos: You gotta, you gotta chop that big tree down.

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Chairman of Chaos: One swing at a time.

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Chairman of Chaos: But there's little things that you can do to clean up around that tree.

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Jeez Louize: Mmh.

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Chairman of Chaos: is to get your work started. And that's where they need to focus on. And, and that's what made, what has made Mondani so powerful and impactful to New York. So if you want to take this and spread it around, you have to, you have to.

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Chairman of Chaos: Redress your messaging.

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MannyMaCoo: Democrats have always been in this weird, and like I said earlier, this weird contract negotiation of what is the Democratic Party.

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MannyMaCoo: They are going to have to figure out what that, what that new contract is going to be internally between its multiracial progressive base and white working class voters.

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MannyMaCoo: Because numerically, you do not win any elections here in America without the white working-class voters. Whoever gets that subset… Sure.

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Chairman of Chaos: For sure.

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MannyMaCoo: Wins.

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Chairman of Chaos: And.

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MannyMaCoo: You have to figure out how to get that, but then you also have to figure out how to get that in your state, in your district.

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MannyMaCoo: Republicans still have to do the same because now you see their coalition starting to fall apart because Trump is crazy.

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MannyMaCoo: And they're like, how do I maintain our.

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MannyMaCoo: Our balance with our fiscal conservatives.

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MannyMaCoo: the… And the far right. Like, what does that look like?

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MannyMaCoo: Because there is a very large subset of people like myself who are just fiscally conservative.

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MannyMaCoo: Socially, you do what… We're with a lot of the other things. How do you…

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Chairman of Chaos: Newsfl.

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MannyMaCoo: Balance.

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Chairman of Chaos: Flash, y'all, Manny and myself are more closely aligned than y'all would realize on the fiscal side of things.

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MannyMaCoo: Yeah, but…

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Chairman of Chaos: There was a man, it wasn't a survey that you share with us. Like the results, yours and mine were like, not far off at all.

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Jeez Louize: Yep.

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Chairman of Chaos: But I'm an independent. Yeah. So it.

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MannyMaCoo: It's finding that balance and both parties are going to have to deal with this as it keeps changing. The problem is both parties refused to change for so long, they got forced to do it.

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Chairman of Chaos: Yep.

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MannyMaCoo: Republicans were forced to confront it during the Tea Party movement. Democrats are now being forced to confront that now. And it makes it harder to confront that when you don't have leadership.

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MannyMaCoo: The Democrats have no one that is going to lead that.

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Chairman of Chaos: Nobody.

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MannyMaCoo: They have no galvanizing force. Like, and not even, like, regionally. Not like, oh, this person is hot in the South. Like, you don't have that.

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Chairman of Chaos: Well… And you have a couple of potential nominees, but I don't think those individuals want to step up.

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Chairman of Chaos: For that task.

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MannyMaCoo: It's a hell of a task. It is a hell of a task. And then I think the people who want to step up for the task, you…

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Chairman of Chaos: No, we don'.

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MannyMaCoo: I don't really want.

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Chairman of Chaos: Come on.

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MannyMaCoo: I got it.

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Jeez Louize: You ain't got it for you.

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MannyMaCoo: Gavin Newsom, I think he wants to do it, but I'm just like, you're not going to be the guy. That's not your room. Now, do I think there's a good chance he ends up being the nominee because he is the Democratic version of Trump? Yes.

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MannyMaCoo: And I say Democratic version of Trump.

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Chairman of Chaos: Oh, no, you're.

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MannyMaCoo: The memes, the names…

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Chairman of Chaos: Thousand percent.

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MannyMaCoo: I think 100%.

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Chairman of Chaos: And his actions behind his words.

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Jeez Louize: Yep.

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MannyMaCoo: Oh yeah.

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Chairman of Chaos: I'm not a Gavin Newsom fan, newsflash.

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MannyMaCoo: So, do I think it ends up being Gavin Newsom? And I think that'll be fun for us to do after the midterms. Who are way too early picks are on the national scene.

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Chairman of Chaos: They got mine depending on who becomes governor of Georgia.

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MannyMaCoo: Mmm.

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MannyMaCoo: Mmm.

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Jeez Louize: This is going to be exciting. So.

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MannyMaCoo: So I think they have to figure out I think the Democrats have to figure out who leads them and who was able to unite those two two arms together.

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MannyMaCoo: You know, Trump was able to do that in 16 by being the businessman out by being the.

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Chairman of Chaos: Outside.

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MannyMaCoo: That was able to get the, the fiscal conservatives, asterisk, because… Like.

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Chairman of Chaos: It'.

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MannyMaCoo: A lot of people said he's not been very.

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Chairman of Chaos: Very few things have been fiscally conservative. Right. Neither.

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MannyMaCoo: But then getting that far right fringe involved, who is going to be the person that galvanizes it?

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Jeez Louize: Well, I think when you look at, and you mentioned Trump, you know.

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Jeez Louize: with what's going on in the infighting that you have with the Democratic Party, I certainly would have liked for them to, before they figure it out.

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Jeez Louize: I would much rather you stop insulting and throwing jabs before you figure out how we're going to define the party, because

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Jeez Louize: In that moment, of course, Donnie T is gonna seize the moment.

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Chairman of Chaos: Oh.

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Jeez Louize: And he ain't gonna waste no time.

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Jeez Louize: So Donnie T has framed these victories as proof that Democrats are becoming a socialist party.

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Jeez Louize: And his strategy is obvious. Instead of running against individual Democrats, what he's trying to do now, is that he's trying to make every Democrat answer for the most progressive voices in the party.

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Jeez Louize: Republicans believe if voters associate Democrats with democratic socialism, it becomes much easier to win, especially in suburban districts. Now, whether that's, you know, you can argue whether that's fair or not, but

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Jeez Louize: or that politically, it really doesn't matter. But I think at the end of the day it's an effective campaign message, because now every Democrat candidate may have to answer the question, do you support

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Jeez Louize: this movement. So… Man, I'm gonna ask you, is Trump successfully defining Democrats before Democrats can even define themselves?

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MannyMaCoo: Yes, this is a strategy that everyone uses. So in 2018, when I ran, everyone asked, well, how do you feel about Trump? I had to answer to Trump.

548
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Jeez Louize: Yeah.

549
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MannyMaCoo: I had to add, I had to answer the Trump question.

550
00:43:28.350 --> 00:43:33.829
MannyMaCoo: Every single time. And it was the same answer, no matter who I talked to.

551
00:43:34.350 --> 00:43:41.769
MannyMaCoo: that neither won me votes, nor won me votes. That's right.

552
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MannyMaCoo: To the Republicans, like, oh, you're not backing Trump enough. Oh. Oh, well, you're still a Republican. Oh, so… I did not win votes, nor did I win votes. But it is the strategy.

553
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MannyMaCoo: You always have to answer to the worst of the representation of you.

554
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MannyMaCoo: How much do we see this as African Americans having to be?

555
00:44:04.790 --> 00:44:07.409
MannyMaCoo: Answer to the worst.

556
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MannyMaCoo: of what people do.

557
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Chairman of Chaos: Whoa.

558
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Jeez Louize: m.

559
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Chairman of Chaos: Preach, brother, preach.

560
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MannyMaCoo: Every time, it is a strategy that works in, in multi-facets, not just in politics.

561
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MannyMaCoo: Oh, how do I make you try to look bad or get you in an awkward position?

562
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MannyMaCoo: So yes, yes, he's absolutely doing this. B, Democrats should have known that he was going to do this, and have prepared their candidates, and their leadership should have prepared their candidates for this, walking into that election in 18.

563
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MannyMaCoo: That is the one thing my team and I worked on a lot of is how to handle the Trump question.

564
00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:54.049
MannyMaCoo: Now, some of them was like, we should probably find a better way to handle that. I'm like, this is how I'm

565
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MannyMaCoo: And they're like, okay, and I said, okay, and you know.

566
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MannyMaCoo: Could there have been a possibly better way to handle it? I mean, probably, but, you know?

567
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MannyMaCoo: But you still have to prep if you have a leader.

568
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MannyMaCoo: Leading your organization and I'm not just talking about from the White House.

569
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MannyMaCoo: I'm talking about through Congress, all the way down to your county chairs and your precinct chairs, who are working with these people who are running for commissioner, who are running for state representative, to governor.

570
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MannyMaCoo: If they are not prepping you to be ready for this question, then you fumble like they did. So yes, and this is always the plan.

571
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MannyMaCoo: We saw… you see that same thing happening in Texas.

572
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MannyMaCoo: With, with Telerico, hey, they were already prepared for, hey, answer to this.

573
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MannyMaCoo: it is about preparation. This is just poor political leadership if your people are not ready for a response to this, because I would have looked at New York if I was in charge of the Democratic Party, and I would have already been prepared with counter-messaging, because you knew

574
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MannyMaCoo: what the Republican response was going to be, and vice versa, no matter what the state. If you're on James Tallarico's team, you should have known that you were going to get asked those questions. You should be very well-versed

575
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MannyMaCoo: You, you go back to, so let's go to Florida, Florida and Byron Donaldson.

576
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MannyMaCoo: Also, not looking prepared to have to answer the question.

577
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MannyMaCoo: This comes down to preparation. Are you prepared for what is going to be the easiest question that you know is going to be asked at some point?

578
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MannyMaCoo: And most candidates are not. And that's why you see them fumbling so quickly. So instead of trying to capitalize off of momentum, you're answering stupid questions.

579
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Chairman of Chaos: Giving stupid answers to simple questions. Right.

580
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Jeez Louize: What was that thing that we heard so much, the six P's, I believe it was?

581
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Chairman of Chaos: Proper preparation for this.

582
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MannyMaCoo: It's poor performance. Yes, sir.

583
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Chairman of Chaos: And maybe you, you, you, the leadership aspect and point that you made, it's top tier.

584
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Chairman of Chaos: Why is.

585
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Chairman of Chaos: The… I was about to say, Governor, the the mayor of New York City.

586
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Chairman of Chaos: The most prominent Democratic figure in the country.

587
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Chairman of Chaos: At this present date.

588
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Chairman of Chaos: And those who are the most senior in the Democratic Party.

589
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:31.799
Chairman of Chaos: Are the ones trying to speak up.

590
00:47:31.930 --> 00:47:34.370
Chairman of Chaos: But there's no bite to that bark.

591
00:47:35.790 --> 00:47:37.100
Chairman of Chaos: Damn, she got a problem.

592
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MannyMaCoo: I will also…

593
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Chairman of Chaos: The whole house.

594
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MannyMaCoo: And being completely fair, it is a whole lot easier.

595
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MannyMaCoo: To please constituents at the ground level, at the mayor level, at the town council level, because you're able to do things quickly.

596
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Chairman of Chaos: But but but many.

597
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MannyMaCoo: So it is easier, but you are still spot on. Like, why is this the only person?

598
00:48:02.230 --> 00:48:08.430
MannyMaCoo: Where's the hole in your pipeline that hasn't produced someone who can do this at a national level?

599
00:48:08.630 --> 00:48:12.460
Chairman of Chaos: But Mondani is not trying to do, not, he's not trying to speak.

600
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Chairman of Chaos: On a national level, he's even said, I don't have aspirations to go outside of my city.

601
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Chairman of Chaos: So, I mean, we can hold that with a bucket of water with holes in it if we want to, because we've all seen that happen before.

602
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Jeez Louize: Flip.

603
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Chairman of Chaos: But even in the, in the, in the, the nature of it, like he's not, it, it would be one thing if.

604
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Chairman of Chaos: He was doing these things, and he was

605
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Chairman of Chaos: trying to pop up everywhere and be seen everywhere. Now, these people are running to him and putting cameras and microphones in his face. You know, anytime you see him being interviewed or being talked to, I can say anytime, but majority of the time, it's in the streets of New York.

606
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MannyMaCoo: This man is like… this man is like Jadakiss. He's like, I'll be on the block. I'll be on the block.

607
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Jeez Louize: I don't even have anything, or very minimum,

608
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Jeez Louize: Video of him even in his office. Like, every time the man.

609
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MannyMaCoo: us.

610
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Jeez Louize: He's doing something, he's never in the office, he's in the streets working.

611
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MannyMaCoo: I saw a video of him. They were opening up New York City pools for the summer. And he was jumping into the pool in the suit.

612
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Jeez Louize: Yep.

613
00:49:25.260 --> 00:49:25.660
MannyMaCoo: See this.

614
00:49:25.660 --> 00:49:26.729
Chairman of Chaos: And I'm just like.

615
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MannyMaCoo: This is just top tier PR. What? You're jumping. Oh, you're opening. Oh, you're going to jump. Oh, you're in your suit. That's great imagery. What?

616
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Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, about.

617
00:49:39.200 --> 00:49:41.860
MannyMaCoo: Politics really don't be as hard as…

618
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Chairman of Chaos: It's not.

619
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Jeez Louize: Isn't it.

620
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Chairman of Chaos: It's not, it.

621
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MannyMaCoo: Like, to separate, you have the politics, which is campaigning. Then you have the policy. Now, the policy is hard. Yes, for sure.

622
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Chairman of Chaos: For sure, for sure.

623
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MannyMaCoo: That's hard. But the politics, the campaign, this ain't that hard. This ain't that hard.

624
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Jeez Louize: Bro, you just got to be present and active, bro.

625
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MannyMaCoo: Bruh. That's half the game. That's half the game.

626
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Jeez Louize: Hey, President Adam, that's all you got.

627
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MannyMaCoo: But GI Joe told us, knowing is half the battle. The other half is red lasers and blue lasers.

628
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Chairman of Chaos: It's.

629
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MannyMaCoo: But knowing is half that battle.

630
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Jeez Louize: That's it, man. That's it. You know, and people can connect with you when they feel like, okay, you're saying one thing, and I actually see you doing something. It's not a hard formula, it's not a difficult recipe.

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Jeez Louize: To me, it's generally just what an outstanding person with great morals and values does is that if I say something, I'm going to do what I said I was going to do and try my hardest, and if I can't, that policy perspective is a little more easier to digest because you can't do that necessarily on your own.

632
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Jeez Louize: you know, you have to rely on certain aspects of the other party on the other side of the aisle to help you to get some of those things done, but seeing you doing the work and trying to get there, coupled with you being present and active, is just a recipe that works, and I don't understand why it's that difficult, why we have to make politics that hard.

633
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MannyMaCoo: People don't care what you know until they know that you care.

634
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Jeez Louize: Yep.

635
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MannyMaCoo: I remember, again, back when I was running, it was early elections, I was out at the town of Cary, and talking to this guy, he said, oh, you're a Republican? He's like, I got some words for you. And I'm like, well, let's hear it. Y'all, this man yelled at me.

636
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MannyMaCoo: for 30 minutes.

637
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MannyMaCoo: And I just stood with him and I just walked down the line with him and listened to everything he said.

638
00:51:37.860 --> 00:51:42.620
MannyMaCoo: And I said some things back, and he's like, that makes sense, but then I had the…

639
00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:46.879
MannyMaCoo: By the time we got to that line, he said, you know what, I'm gonna vote

640
00:51:47.150 --> 00:51:51.239
MannyMaCoo: And I'm like, well, thank you, sir. I'm happy that I earned your support.

641
00:51:51.390 --> 00:52:02.200
MannyMaCoo: Then, what also happened was the 5 people behind him was like, you handled that amazingly. I'm also going to vote for you. And I was like, I appreciate those 5… I appreciate those 6 votes.

642
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MannyMaCoo: But none of that happens.

643
00:52:04.560 --> 00:52:07.560
MannyMaCoo: Unless you take the time to listen to the people.

644
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Chairman of Chaos: Yes.

645
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Jeez Louize: Yep.

646
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MannyMaCoo: Did I… did I do anything for that person right now, at that moment? No. The only thing I did for them was let them get some things off their chest, to someone he felt as though was going to have the ability to do something about it. Yep.

647
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MannyMaCoo: As a leader, as someone who aspires for someone for political leadership, you have a responsibility to the people, whether they agree with you or they disagree with you.

648
00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:38.769
MannyMaCoo: And you don't even know whether they agree or disagree with you until you're there with them.

649
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Chairman of Chaos: Listen.

650
00:52:40.200 --> 00:52:40.520
Jeez Louize: Yep.

651
00:52:40.520 --> 00:52:54.029
MannyMaCoo: You gotta be there. That's the entry part. Everyone thinks about, oh, going to DC, oh, going to these fundraisers and stuff. No, just show up to the community event. Shake some hands, kiss some babies, talk to people, touch grass.

652
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MannyMaCoo: Touch grass. Get a, get a grip on reality.

653
00:53:00.950 --> 00:53:01.650
Jeez Louize: Get a gri.

654
00:53:01.650 --> 00:53:02.830
MannyMaCoo: Grip on reality.

655
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Chairman of Chaos: Hey, Manny, what was more agonizing? That 30 minutes with him, or that time with Jeezy Dad?

656
00:53:10.520 --> 00:53:11.630
MannyMaCoo: Oh, man.

657
00:53:12.380 --> 00:53:13.120
MannyMaCoo: Yes.

658
00:53:13.770 --> 00:53:16.720
Jeez Louize: That's my dad, probably. It was his dad.

659
00:53:16.720 --> 00:53:20.549
Chairman of Chaos: Oh, it was. Slap it. The slap it. The slap it. It was the.

660
00:53:20.550 --> 00:53:21.870
MannyMaCoo: And the coins.

661
00:53:21.870 --> 00:53:22.520
Jeez Louize: Right.

662
00:53:22.520 --> 00:53:23.650
MannyMaCoo: And I was just like…

663
00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:31.010
MannyMaCoo: And the problem was, it was funny, too. Like, in my head, I was able to also, like, disassociate long enough.

664
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Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, sure.

665
00:53:31.490 --> 00:53:36.449
MannyMaCoo: appreciate the comedy of it all. But yeah, it was definitely Jeezy's dad, man.

666
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Chairman of Chaos: Hair comedy. Oh my God. Oh, hold on. Real quick. I'm sorry, brother. I'm sorry. Hey, Jeezy. I mean, Jeezy. Manny, how close is your cap?

667
00:53:46.310 --> 00:53:47.770
Jeez Louize: Oh, boy.

668
00:53:47.770 --> 00:53:49.430
MannyMaCoo: You know, I keep that thing on me.

669
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MannyMaCoo: Mmhm.

670
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Jeez Louize: oh.

671
00:53:50.920 --> 00:53:51.780
MannyMaCoo: Here we go.

672
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Chairman of Chaos: Weird.

673
00:53:56.020 --> 00:53:57.600
Jeez Louize: I thought we weren't going to make it.

674
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Chairman of Chaos: Never would have made it.

675
00:54:02.370 --> 00:54:03.779
Chairman of Chaos: Without you.

676
00:54:03.780 --> 00:54:04.870
Jeez Louize: Yes, sir.

677
00:54:05.520 --> 00:54:09.740
Chairman of Chaos: Did the Knicks… Winning the NBA championship.

678
00:54:10.150 --> 00:54:12.479
Chairman of Chaos: Have been a political play.

679
00:54:13.790 --> 00:54:14.820
Jeez Louize: Mmm.

680
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MannyMaCoo: I'm intrigued. Speak more on this. I'm intrigued, I'm here for this.

681
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Chairman of Chaos: So…

682
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Chairman of Chaos: not necessarily an upset, but early on, it was an upset that Mondani would even win the nomination, because he was going against the former, New York governor, Cuomo, and who had a lot of political, cachet in the state of New York, in the city of New York.

683
00:54:42.460 --> 00:54:46.919
Chairman of Chaos: And… Then, when he beat Cuomo.

684
00:54:47.150 --> 00:54:49.850
Chairman of Chaos: Going up against Eric Adams, who is the current…

685
00:54:50.060 --> 00:54:56.980
Chairman of Chaos: The incumbent Republican who not only has some mess with him.

686
00:54:57.210 --> 00:54:57.810
Jeez Louize: Yes.

687
00:54:58.330 --> 00:55:03.119
Chairman of Chaos: But they still, you know, they still let him run around the city doing what he wanted to do.

688
00:55:03.430 --> 00:55:07.409
Chairman of Chaos: And then Cuomo says, no, I'm gonna run as an independent still.

689
00:55:08.030 --> 00:55:13.020
Chairman of Chaos: After losing the Democratic nomination, So Monday it didn't.

690
00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:16.809
Chairman of Chaos: Adams gets the phone call to back away.

691
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Chairman of Chaos: And after mud stomping Cuomo in the Democratic.

692
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Chairman of Chaos: Race, it was a foregone conclusion what was gonna happen at that point.

693
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Chairman of Chaos: And this… understand, this is by no means…

694
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Chairman of Chaos: a discredit to what this man has done for the New York City of New York so far.

695
00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:43.070
Chairman of Chaos: and it's all theory.

696
00:55:43.540 --> 00:55:46.069
Chairman of Chaos: Conjecture, if you want, if you may.

697
00:55:48.290 --> 00:55:50.039
Chairman of Chaos: He's a big New York Knicks.

698
00:55:50.530 --> 00:55:51.240
Jeez Louize: Mmhm.

699
00:55:51.480 --> 00:55:54.659
Chairman of Chaos: And he's done a lot for the city up until this point.

700
00:55:55.980 --> 00:56:01.270
Chairman of Chaos: And you know, many people say that the scripts for major American sports.

701
00:56:01.380 --> 00:56:03.479
Chairman of Chaos: Leagues are pre-written.

702
00:56:03.730 --> 00:56:04.470
Jeez Louize: Mmhm.

703
00:56:04.680 --> 00:56:07.989
Chairman of Chaos: What further submits and solidifies?

704
00:56:08.790 --> 00:56:14.010
Chairman of Chaos: This city of New York mayor's voice… In these streets.

705
00:56:14.580 --> 00:56:18.090
Chairman of Chaos: But for the beloved team of the city.

706
00:56:20.190 --> 00:56:28.009
Chairman of Chaos: You have the Mets who have won World Series, the Yankees have won their World Series and have their dynasties. Been a while, but they've had them.

707
00:56:28.650 --> 00:56:30.899
Chairman of Chaos: The Rangers have won the Stanley Cup.

708
00:56:31.370 --> 00:56:40.620
Chairman of Chaos: In the timeframe, I think once, at least twice since the last time the Knicks won, the championship. I know Messier won it once.

709
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MannyMaCoo: 93.

710
00:56:41.160 --> 00:56:41.670
Chairman of Chaos: Okay.

711
00:56:42.060 --> 00:56:43.070
MannyMaCoo: 93.

712
00:56:43.240 --> 00:56:46.100
Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, see, I know, I know hockey, y'all.

713
00:56:46.100 --> 00:56:48.280
Jeez Louize: But anyway.

714
00:56:49.530 --> 00:56:51.409
Chairman of Chaos: But none of that.

715
00:56:51.650 --> 00:56:53.859
Chairman of Chaos: Has been as impactful.

716
00:56:53.980 --> 00:56:55.289
Chairman of Chaos: for a city.

717
00:56:56.110 --> 00:57:00.169
Chairman of Chaos: As the New York Knicks, Winning the NBA championship.

718
00:57:01.380 --> 00:57:04.990
Chairman of Chaos: I don't know if y'all heard, but the report that crime had been down.

719
00:57:05.500 --> 00:57:07.549
Chairman of Chaos: during the Knicks playoff run.

720
00:57:08.500 --> 00:57:13.399
Chairman of Chaos: Especially once they hit those two series sweeps, I haven't been down.

721
00:57:13.850 --> 00:57:16.530
Chairman of Chaos: Even to the point, yes, we saw that the…

722
00:57:17.020 --> 00:57:27.129
Chairman of Chaos: vagrant activity of beating up the Spurs fans after the Knicks lost, and a little lack of emotional intelligence there by some individuals.

723
00:57:28.600 --> 00:57:29.740
Jeez Louize: But for the most part.

724
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Chairman of Chaos: But for the most part, crime had been drastically down in the city to the point that I've had New Yorkers tell me that people were going around saying good morning and speaking to each other during the Knicks playoff run.

725
00:57:41.660 --> 00:57:42.949
Jeez Louize: Oh my god.

726
00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:46.660
Chairman of Chaos: And if you know anything about New York City.

727
00:57:46.660 --> 00:57:47.590
Jeez Louize: Morning in New York.

728
00:57:47.590 --> 00:57:50.650
Chairman of Chaos: A good morning and hello and how you doing?

729
00:57:51.230 --> 00:57:53.179
MannyMaCoo: Oh, you must be a tourist.

730
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Jeez Louize: No.

731
00:57:53.830 --> 00:57:54.830
Chairman of Chaos: Exactly.

732
00:57:55.980 --> 00:57:57.320
Chairman of Chaos: But here we are.

733
00:57:58.850 --> 00:58:04.680
Chairman of Chaos: And as we talk about his political cachet and his, national notoriety.

734
00:58:04.940 --> 00:58:05.650
Jeez Louize: Mmhm.

735
00:58:06.270 --> 00:58:10.210
Chairman of Chaos: At the parade, there was only a handful of individuals who spoke.

736
00:58:12.240 --> 00:58:12.660
Jeez Louize: You spell.

737
00:58:12.660 --> 00:58:14.340
Chairman of Chaos: And who was one of those individuals?

738
00:58:15.610 --> 00:58:16.760
Chairman of Chaos: Mondami.

739
00:58:17.160 --> 00:58:20.640
Jeez Louize: And just add, brother, he spoke longer than anybody.

740
00:58:20.640 --> 00:58:22.340
Chairman of Chaos: Anybody. Anybody.

741
00:58:22.340 --> 00:58:24.060
Jeez Louize: Owner, the players.

742
00:58:24.350 --> 00:58:25.460
Chairman of Chaos: Anybody.

743
00:58:25.460 --> 00:58:25.879
Jeez Louize: In the mix.

744
00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:26.470
Chairman of Chaos: And.

745
00:58:26.470 --> 00:58:27.380
Jeez Louize: Presidential.

746
00:58:27.780 --> 00:58:33.720
Chairman of Chaos: Brother… You stepping on my word.

747
00:58:33.900 --> 00:58:38.009
Chairman of Chaos: But yes, his speech was revered as one of the best

748
00:58:38.160 --> 00:58:42.019
Chairman of Chaos: parade speeches that anyone has ever given.

749
00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:45.899
Chairman of Chaos: Like I said, this may be a bit of conjecture, but

750
00:58:46.430 --> 00:58:50.399
Chairman of Chaos: If you're in the script reading, Add this to the script.

751
00:58:51.080 --> 00:58:55.160
Jeez Louize: Might be a good one Might be a good one.

752
00:58:55.780 --> 00:58:57.380
Chairman of Chaos: Based on True Story TV.

753
00:59:00.300 --> 00:59:01.090
Chairman of Chaos: I'm just saying.

754
00:59:01.090 --> 00:59:06.529
Jeez Louize: to it, brother. Maybe, maybe something too. We gotta keep our, keep our eye open and keep our tinfoil hat close by.

755
00:59:06.530 --> 00:59:08.940
MannyMaCoo: Keep that bang on you.

756
00:59:08.940 --> 00:59:10.540
Chairman of Chaos: That's what it's for.

757
00:59:10.890 --> 00:59:18.530
Jeez Louize: Well, we might have to send a tinfoil hat to, DC, because I think somebody else might be, needing one, and that might be, Mike Johnson

758
00:59:18.730 --> 00:59:20.460
Jeez Louize: My girlfriend,

759
00:59:20.930 --> 00:59:21.580
Chairman of Chaos: Mike is…

760
00:59:21.580 --> 00:59:22.240
Jeez Louize: Either.

761
00:59:22.500 --> 00:59:28.740
Jeez Louize: Mike might feel a little pitiful, man, and he may be saying there's something going on behind the scenes, because he's worried.

762
00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:30.889
Chairman of Chaos: Somehow with a foot.

763
00:59:30.890 --> 00:59:31.670
Jeez Louize: Foot brother

764
00:59:32.790 --> 00:59:42.359
Jeez Louize: Wanna play a clip that he spoke, at a, I believe it was a event for donors, this past week, after what results happened, in New York, and

765
00:59:42.510 --> 00:59:44.640
Jeez Louize: Mike seems to be a little uneasy, br.

766
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Audio shared by Jeez Louize: If we were to lose the midterms, heaven forbid, these Democrats… y'all, impeachment's not even the big concern. They will turn every committee of Congress into an investigative body, and they'll go after the President's family, the Cabinet, his donors and friends. Half of you in this room will

767
00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:04.570
Audio shared by Jeez Louize: I run the protection program, I'll take care of you, okay? We're gonna win, we' Right?

768
01:00:04.900 --> 01:00:05.810
Jeez Louize: First of all.

769
01:00:07.540 --> 01:00:11.070
Jeez Louize: as fast as he was speaking. I want y'all to know I did not speed that clip up.

770
01:00:12.360 --> 01:00:13.250
Chairman of Chaos: There's not one.

771
01:00:14.020 --> 01:00:17.420
Jeez Louize: Yeah, that ain't one and a half. That's just… that's him.

772
01:00:18.220 --> 01:00:18.650
MannyMaCoo: Mmm.

773
01:00:18.650 --> 01:00:19.980
Jeez Louize: Speed of his tone.

774
01:00:21.040 --> 01:00:23.030
Jeez Louize: Mike might already know, hey.

775
01:00:23.610 --> 01:00:24.800
Chairman of Chaos: Michael Scheister.

776
01:00:25.110 --> 01:00:31.180
Jeez Louize: Mike Shiesty, bro. In that case, I'm gonna be honest with you, because I really don't like Mike Johnson.

777
01:00:31.430 --> 01:00:45.790
Jeez Louize: because he shiesty to me, but he play that… he play that Bible Christian card every chance he get. He might be just as shiesty as they come. But… but in this clip.

778
01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:52.100
Jeez Louize: He obviously is feeling the pressure of what potentially could happen.

779
01:00:52.230 --> 01:00:53.820
Jeez Louize: In these midterms.

780
01:00:54.180 --> 01:01:00.559
Jeez Louize: And how things may progress and when you have Trump who's attacking the message and trying to define Democrats.

781
01:01:00.700 --> 01:01:10.059
Jeez Louize: Before they define themselves. And then you have Mike Johnson, basically… I mean, that's almost… he went in that room like he's fearmongering these donors, like, hey, look!

782
01:01:10.060 --> 01:01:11.240
Chairman of Chaos: And I wasn't alike.

783
01:01:11.240 --> 01:01:14.199
MannyMaCoo: That was, like, this is 100% what was happening.

784
01:01:14.200 --> 01:01:15.510
Chairman of Chaos: Y'all.

785
01:01:15.510 --> 01:01:25.100
Jeez Louize: Y'all are going down, but look, we're gonna win. I run the protection program, which I didn't know that you ran that protection program. What are you protecting?

786
01:01:25.230 --> 01:01:30.530
Jeez Louize: Maybe if y'all actually did your job, there wouldn't be nothing to protect or be fearful of.

787
01:01:30.680 --> 01:01:31.640
Jeez Louize: I mean…

788
01:01:32.270 --> 01:01:37.289
MannyMaCoo: The, the strongest emotions when we talk about politics are.

789
01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:40.230
MannyMaCoo: Anger, fear, then love.

790
01:01:40.720 --> 01:01:41.490
Jeez Louize: Mmhm.

791
01:01:42.610 --> 01:01:46.299
Chairman of Chaos: And our resident therapist will tell you anger is not an emotion.

792
01:01:46.770 --> 01:01:49.750
MannyMaCoo: He would. I'm sorry. He would.

793
01:01:49.750 --> 01:01:51.139
Chairman of Chaos: Shout out to our brother.

794
01:01:51.140 --> 01:01:53.569
MannyMaCoo: Anger is not an emotion.

795
01:01:53.790 --> 01:02:03.999
MannyMaCoo: So, I think that's him getting ahead of the message. Like, him… A, you're in a room full of donors, and what do you need this room full of donors to do? Give you money.

796
01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:04.690
Jeez Louize: Nobody.

797
01:02:04.970 --> 01:02:11.760
MannyMaCoo: And what is going to make people give you money? Realizing that there is a threat on you.

798
01:02:11.870 --> 01:02:13.819
MannyMaCoo: That you need to deal with.

799
01:02:13.980 --> 01:02:28.040
MannyMaCoo: So I think that's the first conjecture that we ought to take from this, from his message, was like, yeah, I need y'all to start turning on the faucets, I need some money to go ahead and fight this. But also, what you saw here is…

800
01:02:29.210 --> 01:02:32.040
MannyMaCoo: Him starting to turn the page from Trump.

801
01:02:33.040 --> 01:02:36.479
MannyMaCoo: And that's what I picked up more than anything else in that clip.

802
01:02:36.680 --> 01:02:42.739
MannyMaCoo: Don't worry about Trump. Oh, you saying don't worry about Trump tells me.

803
01:02:42.970 --> 01:02:48.220
MannyMaCoo: That that is that is that might be a foregone conclusion for for some of you.

804
01:02:48.750 --> 01:02:53.510
MannyMaCoo: Is like, Trump is not the big bad thing we're trying to protect here, it's you all.

805
01:02:53.650 --> 01:02:58.819
MannyMaCoo: So, I think there might be some concerns in the Republican side of the house that…

806
01:02:59.220 --> 01:03:01.410
MannyMaCoo: Trump don't have much longer.

807
01:03:02.050 --> 01:03:04.850
Chairman of Chaos: Either… Go ahead, bro.

808
01:03:04.850 --> 01:03:09.899
MannyMaCoo: Either, either because, you know, he, he's got a meeting, he's got a meeting with the maker.

809
01:03:10.100 --> 01:03:11.020
MannyMaCoo: Or.

810
01:03:12.240 --> 01:03:18.840
MannyMaCoo: Or at the rate that he keeps out doing outlandish things, they might have no choice but to go ahead and sit him down in the corner.

811
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Chairman of Chaos: But see, I picked up something different from that. I actually picked up him trying to, play on their concerns of protecting Trump and his family because when he made the point of if they get a hold of Congress, they're gonna impeach him.

812
01:03:35.160 --> 01:03:46.219
Chairman of Chaos: And, you know, the part of the protection program is not only protecting them, but also protecting Trump and his family, because we know, and.

813
01:03:46.870 --> 01:03:48.639
MannyMaCoo: Which is weird energy, anyways.

814
01:03:48.640 --> 01:03:53.209
Chairman of Chaos: It's super, super weird, but here we go again, giving out game.

815
01:03:54.260 --> 01:03:55.350
Chairman of Chaos: Dems.

816
01:03:55.950 --> 01:03:59.650
Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, I have a leadership problem. You have a leadership messaging problem.

817
01:04:00.300 --> 01:04:01.939
Chairman of Chaos: Was it in campaigning?

818
01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:03.830
Chairman of Chaos: This clip right here.

819
01:04:04.780 --> 01:04:06.820
Chairman of Chaos: That'll be one of my campaign clips.

820
01:04:07.850 --> 01:04:08.579
Jeez Louize: What does it mean.

821
01:04:08.580 --> 01:04:10.710
Chairman of Chaos: One of the many.

822
01:04:10.970 --> 01:04:14.809
Chairman of Chaos: Because you have… The House Leader saying, hey.

823
01:04:16.620 --> 01:04:24.139
Chairman of Chaos: If they, if they get into office and win the midterms, they're gonna impeach this president because they feel.

824
01:04:24.280 --> 01:04:25.689
Chairman of Chaos: He's done wrong.

825
01:04:25.870 --> 01:04:28.800
Chairman of Chaos: They feel his family has been in corruption.

826
01:04:29.540 --> 01:04:35.029
Chairman of Chaos: So I need to protect y'all. What are you protecting us from if we were doing the right thing?

827
01:04:35.470 --> 01:04:40.529
Chairman of Chaos: There's no need to protect… The right you you you're protecting.

828
01:04:40.940 --> 01:04:41.920
Chairman of Chaos: corruption.

829
01:04:43.060 --> 01:04:48.210
Chairman of Chaos: like… And this, him saying this out loud.

830
01:04:48.590 --> 01:04:53.500
Chairman of Chaos: is further cementing The messaging that has been going on.

831
01:04:53.670 --> 01:04:54.760
Chairman of Chaos: Since…

832
01:04:55.120 --> 01:05:01.770
Chairman of Chaos: The midterms first started right before the midterms started and you heard others, they didn't come out and say this flat out.

833
01:05:02.340 --> 01:05:10.460
Chairman of Chaos: But they were hinting toward this and now you have higher ranking officials within the party stating.

834
01:05:11.010 --> 01:05:12.090
Chairman of Chaos: Hey!

835
01:05:12.730 --> 01:05:16.830
Chairman of Chaos: We're worried about this thing because if we don't get it together.

836
01:05:17.670 --> 01:05:19.800
Chairman of Chaos: It won't be, it won't be any more

837
01:05:20.940 --> 01:05:25.050
Chairman of Chaos: And then you, although it's not part of this clip, you have.

838
01:05:25.390 --> 01:05:29.279
Chairman of Chaos: Thomas Massey coming out saying, hey, We have a house.

839
01:05:29.520 --> 01:05:30.770
Chairman of Chaos: We have the Senate.

840
01:05:30.890 --> 01:05:33.050
Chairman of Chaos: We have the Supreme Court.

841
01:05:33.050 --> 01:05:33.849
MannyMaCoo: Ain't the.

842
01:05:33.850 --> 01:05:34.510
Chairman of Chaos: The White H.

843
01:05:35.010 --> 01:05:37.149
MannyMaCoo: We won the elections.

844
01:05:37.150 --> 01:05:38.810
Chairman of Chaos: We got the elections.

845
01:05:39.460 --> 01:05:42.689
Chairman of Chaos: Y'all talking about elections, there's other crap we gotta worry about.

846
01:05:43.940 --> 01:05:44.760
Chairman of Chaos: Like.

847
01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:51.770
Chairman of Chaos: Dems, they're giving… they gave you their playbook. You know the plays they're gonna run.

848
01:05:52.560 --> 01:05:55.540
Chairman of Chaos: The annex of Puerto Rico is right before you.

849
01:05:57.030 --> 01:06:00.449
Chairman of Chaos: Run the annexation to Puerto Rico! This ain't.

850
01:06:00.450 --> 01:06:01.320
Jeez Louize: Right.

851
01:06:01.690 --> 01:06:02.890
Chairman of Chaos: It's not hard.

852
01:06:03.050 --> 01:06:06.259
Jeez Louize: It's not hard at all. And I think that when you see this.

853
01:06:06.870 --> 01:06:08.029
Jeez Louize: This talk.

854
01:06:08.190 --> 01:06:09.829
Jeez Louize: This goes back to…

855
01:06:09.940 --> 01:06:14.829
Jeez Louize: Even more of what we spoke about in the last part with the Democrats and the infighting.

856
01:06:15.040 --> 01:06:17.639
Jeez Louize: This is the wrong time for y'all to be doing this.

857
01:06:18.290 --> 01:06:28.589
Jeez Louize: The other team is. You got them on their heels. They don't. They're trying to figure out what they can possibly do, because they they feel like you're you have the upper hand, and you in the huddle arguing.

858
01:06:29.180 --> 01:06:29.990
Jeez Louize: Wow.

859
01:06:29.990 --> 01:06:30.760
MannyMaCoo: Well, and…

860
01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:31.510
Chairman of Chaos: Exactly.

861
01:06:31.510 --> 01:06:41.229
MannyMaCoo: No, and you know why they're in the huddle arguing is because the main quarterback, Barack Obama, is out the game. He ain't coming back in.

862
01:06:41.230 --> 01:06:41.650
Jeez Louize: Right.

863
01:06:41.650 --> 01:06:55.919
MannyMaCoo: He ain't… so you got… you got a star wide receiver saying, hey, let me run with it. You got two star receivers saying, hey, throw me the ball. You got a tight end who's looking for… like, you… no one is controlling the huddle.

864
01:06:56.480 --> 01:06:56.810
Jeez Louize: Mmm.

865
01:06:57.410 --> 01:07:03.819
Chairman of Chaos: Nobody. And you're trying to get the guy from high school, Mondami, to…

866
01:07:04.650 --> 01:07:10.560
Chairman of Chaos: You know, jump to the league to quarterback and control the huddle. And that ain't how it works.

867
01:07:11.280 --> 01:07:12.119
MannyMaCoo: And he doesn't.

868
01:07:12.120 --> 01:07:13.779
Jeez Louize: He was doing his job.

869
01:07:14.240 --> 01:07:14.990
Chairman of Chaos: You know what, Ste.

870
01:07:14.990 --> 01:07:16.449
Jeez Louize: He's doing what he's doing.

871
01:07:16.450 --> 01:07:17.080
Chairman of Chaos: You're supposed.

872
01:07:17.710 --> 01:07:18.140
MannyMaCoo: Manage.

873
01:07:18.140 --> 01:07:19.029
Jeez Louize: Not wanting it.

874
01:07:19.030 --> 01:07:19.830
MannyMaCoo: At best.

875
01:07:19.830 --> 01:07:20.420
Jeez Louize: So.

876
01:07:20.420 --> 01:07:22.679
MannyMaCoo: He ran scout team offense.

877
01:07:22.680 --> 01:07:24.750
Jeez Louize: Yep. At best.

878
01:07:24.750 --> 01:07:25.130
Chairman of Chaos: Yes.

879
01:07:25.130 --> 01:07:25.810
MannyMaCoo: I bet.

880
01:07:25.810 --> 01:07:26.670
Chairman of Chaos: And he breaks down.

881
01:07:26.670 --> 01:07:27.480
MannyMaCoo: Team.

882
01:07:28.260 --> 01:07:33.399
Chairman of Chaos: You know what they say, they, every, all the fans cheer for the quarterback on the bench until he gets in the game.

883
01:07:33.600 --> 01:07:34.520
Jeez Louize: Mmm.

884
01:07:35.280 --> 01:07:36.060
Jeez Louize: Mmm.

885
01:07:36.780 --> 01:07:37.850
Jeez Louize: Yes, sir.

886
01:07:38.580 --> 01:07:43.169
Jeez Louize: I, I don't get it, man. You, you, this is where, this is where the flip up is about to

887
01:07:43.820 --> 01:07:44.510
Jeez Louize: Democr.

888
01:07:44.510 --> 01:07:53.639
MannyMaCoo: But the question I think the other question on the Republican side is like, you have to be seeing this as well. What are your plans? Trump is done.

889
01:07:53.750 --> 01:07:56.190
MannyMaCoo: Done in 2028.

890
01:07:57.150 --> 01:08:06.289
MannyMaCoo: Just because the reality of them, I think the reality of them doing any type of amendment to allow Trump to run for a third term.

891
01:08:06.500 --> 01:08:15.889
MannyMaCoo: Isn't going to happen because why that also you release Trump you release Obama for another round and as much as Obama says he doesn't want to do it.

892
01:08:15.890 --> 01:08:18.460
Chairman of Chaos: He running around on this circuit right now.

893
01:08:18.460 --> 01:08:18.890
MannyMaCoo: Oh, yeah.

894
01:08:18.899 --> 01:08:21.099
Chairman of Chaos: Crest Circuit looking healthy and spry.

895
01:08:21.100 --> 01:08:21.830
MannyMaCoo: Yep.

896
01:08:22.120 --> 01:08:23.120
MannyMaCoo: I think you would.

897
01:08:23.120 --> 01:08:28.410
Jeez Louize: I think you spoke about this before, but, I mean, Democrats were in the position after Obama left.

898
01:08:28.630 --> 01:08:39.349
Jeez Louize: And tried to keep running the same playbook and it didn't happen. So from the GOP side, could we just be seeing the same thing happen? They don't know what to do after MAGA.

899
01:08:39.350 --> 01:08:39.950
MannyMaCoo: Absolutely.

900
01:08:39.950 --> 01:08:40.810
Jeez Louize: didn't know what.

901
01:08:40.810 --> 01:08:41.200
Chairman of Chaos: For sure.

902
01:08:41.200 --> 01:08:41.520
Jeez Louize: to the.

903
01:08:41.529 --> 01:08:42.329
MannyMaCoo: Absolutely.

904
01:08:42.330 --> 01:08:43.560
Chairman of Chaos: After two hours, we hope…

905
01:08:43.569 --> 01:08:44.399
Jeez Louize: What's gone?

906
01:08:44.990 --> 01:08:52.599
MannyMaCoo: Who's the biggest question? The biggest question for the Republicans will be who follows after him.

907
01:08:52.970 --> 01:08:54.270
Jeez Louize: JD Vance!

908
01:08:54.439 --> 01:08:56.799
Chairman of Chaos: You're right.

909
01:08:56.800 --> 01:09:01.800
Jeez Louize: Hey, bruh, I ain't never seen the vice president out this much, bruh. He out everywhere.

910
01:09:01.800 --> 01:09:05.560
Chairman of Chaos: Everywhere. Everywhere. Making his wife look even worse.

911
01:09:05.569 --> 01:09:13.989
MannyMaCoo: Well, he's got to be out like that when you have a president that can only go to international events, the White House and his golf course in Florida.

912
01:09:14.369 --> 01:09:17.699
MannyMaCoo: Like, this man is locked up on the East Coast, largely.

913
01:09:18.329 --> 01:09:20.499
MannyMaCoo: Because you gotta be close to Walter Reed.

914
01:09:21.430 --> 01:09:31.520
Chairman of Chaos: Watery in them. What do they call them? Adult diapers? The pens. No, no, no, no, not the brand. They have a name for them in the hospital.

915
01:09:32.029 --> 01:09:35.890
Chairman of Chaos: Golly, I know a dick. Anyway, yeah, I'm ready to move on.

916
01:09:35.899 --> 01:09:37.009
Jeez Louize: Emergency payments.

917
01:09:37.010 --> 01:09:37.689
MannyMaCoo: Bruh.

918
01:09:39.420 --> 01:09:55.129
MannyMaCoo: But you got him… so you gotta have JD out there, but Republicans are gonna face their same crisis. Who… and if… I'm actually shocked that we're not starting… we're starting to hear more about it, but who follows him? Is it JD? Is it Marco Rubio?

919
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MannyMaCoo: Do we get a nobody that, again, pops out of nowhere? Is it Eric Trump? Is it Ivanka? Is it Jared Kushner? We're not having those conversations yet.

920
01:10:04.470 --> 01:10:15.229
MannyMaCoo: I think it's smart on the Republican side to not have those conversations yet, to like, hey, let's keep the most important thing the most important thing, which is the midterms.

921
01:10:15.850 --> 01:10:17.120
MannyMaCoo: But, that's…

922
01:10:17.120 --> 01:10:20.580
Jeez Louize: gonna have is the chief of MAGA.

923
01:10:20.960 --> 01:10:23.530
Jeez Louize: Essentially, is…

924
01:10:23.780 --> 01:10:41.370
Jeez Louize: going to take the infrastructure with him. Whether he wants to or not, whatever's left of MAGA at this point, the way that it's going, is gonna be burnt down to the ground when he leaves. If you don't have what… what that is after that, if you don't have, I don't know, MAGA 2.0, whatever the new

925
01:10:41.470 --> 01:10:52.340
Jeez Louize: thing is going to be that's going to continue to drive and give you that power that you had and that movement and influence that you had from MAGA, you're gonna find yourself in the same position that Democrats were in when Obama left.

926
01:10:52.340 --> 01:10:58.529
MannyMaCoo: The strength of any organization is judged by its ability to move forward.

927
01:10:58.530 --> 01:10:59.090
Jeez Louize: Mmh.

928
01:10:59.090 --> 01:11:01.580
MannyMaCoo: After the first leader is gone.

929
01:11:01.700 --> 01:11:04.099
MannyMaCoo: And this is just not in politics, you see the.

930
01:11:04.100 --> 01:11:04.470
Jeez Louize: Yeah.

931
01:11:04.470 --> 01:11:06.440
MannyMaCoo: corporate America all the time.

932
01:11:06.520 --> 01:11:21.620
MannyMaCoo: They talked about it with Apple after Steve Jobs passed, like, will Tim Cook be able to be that leader to take it next? You hear it all the time when you talk about, when they talk about cults. Can it survive losing its first leader?

933
01:11:21.690 --> 01:11:34.300
MannyMaCoo: That is the open question around the MAGA movement at this standpoint. Will it be able to continue post-Trump? And I just find it hard that it will be able to.

934
01:11:34.680 --> 01:11:35.640
Chairman of Chaos: So we make a call.

935
01:11:35.640 --> 01:11:36.240
Jeez Louize: I think.

936
01:11:36.420 --> 01:11:38.280
Jeez Louize: Yeah, definitely. I mean…

937
01:11:38.280 --> 01:11:38.820
Chairman of Chaos: Thank you.

938
01:11:38.820 --> 01:11:45.920
Jeez Louize: Without a doubt. It's definitely cult-like. Very cultish. You gotta send a cult to it.

939
01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:46.780
MannyMaCoo: Love.

940
01:11:46.780 --> 01:11:47.120
Chairman of Chaos: Okay.

941
01:11:47.120 --> 01:11:47.940
MannyMaCoo: Like,

942
01:11:47.940 --> 01:11:49.450
Chairman of Chaos: It ain't no 45.

943
01:11:49.450 --> 01:11:54.269
Jeez Louize: You know, bruh, facts. But even when you look at Trump, he doesn't.

944
01:11:54.270 --> 01:11:57.190
Chairman of Chaos: Oh, double on times with 45, 47. Right. Yeah.

945
01:11:57.190 --> 01:12:00.569
Jeez Louize: Yes, sir. I peeped that. That was dope.

946
01:12:01.650 --> 01:12:04.400
Jeez Louize: We need that for the merch, bro. But anyway…

947
01:12:05.670 --> 01:12:12.750
Jeez Louize: But, you know, he doesn't even appear to be at all interested in the movement going forward after him.

948
01:12:12.900 --> 01:12:16.439
Jeez Louize: So, you know, it's crazy when you think about that, because as hard as they write.

949
01:12:16.440 --> 01:12:16.830
Chairman of Chaos: Thank you.

950
01:12:16.830 --> 01:12:17.789
Jeez Louize: I look forward.

951
01:12:18.070 --> 01:12:18.990
Chairman of Chaos: Well, jeez.

952
01:12:18.990 --> 01:12:19.510
Jeez Louize: One.

953
01:12:19.780 --> 01:12:21.149
Chairman of Chaos: That's not a surprise.

954
01:12:21.620 --> 01:12:29.689
Chairman of Chaos: He don't want nobody… he don't want nobody coming behind him, making anything look better than what he was doing. It's him or nothing else.

955
01:12:29.690 --> 01:12:30.030
MannyMaCoo: Yep.

956
01:12:30.030 --> 01:12:30.710
Jeez Louize: Okay.

957
01:12:31.340 --> 01:12:32.389
Jeez Louize: Well, at any rate.

958
01:12:32.390 --> 01:12:33.620
Chairman of Chaos: Unless it's Ivank.

959
01:12:34.550 --> 01:12:36.130
Jeez Louize: Yeah, he loved… but I don't.

960
01:12:36.130 --> 01:12:43.850
Chairman of Chaos: I don't think she has aspirations, but he has a sickening infatuation with Ivanka.

961
01:12:43.850 --> 01:12:46.410
Jeez Louize: I love my daughters, bro. I have three beautiful daughters.

962
01:12:46.410 --> 01:12:47.370
Chairman of Chaos: the mind to the moon.

963
01:12:47.370 --> 01:12:48.230
MannyMaCoo: Mmhm.

964
01:12:48.530 --> 01:12:52.320
Jeez Louize: My brothers, all my brothers here have daughters.

965
01:12:52.770 --> 01:12:57.259
Jeez Louize: And I think I can speak and say this with very clear knowledge.

966
01:12:57.260 --> 01:12:58.929
MannyMaCoo: Extremely clear. Awareness.

967
01:12:58.930 --> 01:13:07.220
Jeez Louize: that none of us love our daughters in the manner in which Donald Trump loves his. I don't think you call that love. That may be, I don't know what that is.

968
01:13:07.220 --> 01:13:08.370
Chairman of Chaos: Sure must.

969
01:13:08.370 --> 01:13:11.020
Jeez Louize: But it might be, it might be a… Epstein.

970
01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:14.150
Jeez Louize: It might be PDF file worthy.

971
01:13:16.150 --> 01:13:23.490
Jeez Louize: But one thing in all of this is increasingly clear when we look at what's happened in New York and the responses from

972
01:13:23.920 --> 01:13:32.909
Jeez Louize: Hakeem, when we look at responses from Trump, when we look at responses from Mike Johnson, this wasn't just another primary election.

973
01:13:33.230 --> 01:13:47.879
Jeez Louize: it was a battle over the future identity of the Democratic Party. You know, progressives are seeing what they believe is momentum, moderates are seeing warning signs, and Republicans, in their fear and fashion, see campaign ads, so…

974
01:13:48.140 --> 01:13:54.149
Jeez Louize: That's why these races matter far beyond New York City, because the biggest fight isn't between

975
01:13:54.200 --> 01:14:12.979
Jeez Louize: The Democrats and the Republicans right now, it's the fighting that's happening inside the Democratic Party itself, and I think we gotta really watch how this looks going forward, because you have somebody like, you know, the one who's been the champion of the… the priest of progressive, Bernie Sanders. Could he potentially see…

976
01:14:13.450 --> 01:14:31.710
Jeez Louize: in his… in his… in his last heroic act, he actually see this movement really go forward, and… and the manner and the fashion in which he has fought so hard for it to happen, with CMF Donnie. Him and his… it's almost like a… like a Star Wars with, Darth Vader.

977
01:14:32.340 --> 01:14:32.810
MannyMaCoo: Bye.

978
01:14:32.810 --> 01:14:35.779
Jeez Louize: AOC is his, like, predecessor. I mean…

979
01:14:36.190 --> 01:14:54.270
Jeez Louize: that's his right hand, that's his right hand chick, you know? Could he really be seeing, okay, this may be the moment where the Democrats end up having this power shift? But certainly this fighting happening within the Democratic Party is going to be something that's going to be tricky for them to handle, because you're heading into the midterm.

980
01:14:54.270 --> 01:14:59.169
Jeez Louize: You see the Republicans, which I think for the Republicans, it's a bad thing to try to

981
01:14:59.480 --> 01:15:01.610
Jeez Louize: The picture had on this.

982
01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:03.149
Jeez Louize: Gotta be something else.

983
01:15:03.500 --> 01:15:09.999
Jeez Louize: Because if Democrats somehow figure out, and this is the race that I think is gonna happen, who gets to define the party first?

984
01:15:10.770 --> 01:15:21.229
Jeez Louize: Do the Democrats figure out they're defining who they are, what that umbrella looks like, how it looks going forward, so that they have it in time enough to pitch it for midterms and after?

985
01:15:21.230 --> 01:15:36.989
Jeez Louize: Or do Republicans beat them to the race and cut them off at the knees before they can even truly figure out what that umbrella and what the party truly looks like, and what that messaging is, what that campaign slogan is, what is that catchphrase, and what does that umbrella look like before it's too late?

986
01:15:37.350 --> 01:15:41.369
MannyMaCoo: They, they got, they got from now to Labor Day to figure it out.

987
01:15:41.590 --> 01:15:42.260
Jeez Louize: Mmm.

988
01:15:43.160 --> 01:15:46.259
MannyMaCoo: Cause that's when everything's really going to kick back out right now.

989
01:15:46.260 --> 01:15:46.620
Chairman of Chaos: So.

990
01:15:46.620 --> 01:15:47.350
MannyMaCoo: Labor Day.

991
01:15:47.790 --> 01:15:50.560
Chairman of Chaos: But you know what's funny? And I know we're moving on.

992
01:15:50.770 --> 01:15:56.089
Chairman of Chaos: New York wouldn't even be a conversation if Mondani wasn't the rock star that he is right now, because…

993
01:15:56.310 --> 01:15:57.639
Chairman of Chaos: We know what's gonna happen.

994
01:15:57.640 --> 01:15:59.199
MannyMaCoo: We already know what's going to happen.

995
01:15:59.350 --> 01:16:02.860
Chairman of Chaos: That's the craziest aspect of all of this.

996
01:16:03.700 --> 01:16:10.529
Jeez Louize: You already know. So we'll keep an eye and see what happens. Hakeem, man, you got to chill out. You know, you listen to the pod, brother.

997
01:16:11.310 --> 01:16:15.350
Jeez Louize: I don't think you as well liked as you think you are you might want to.

998
01:16:15.350 --> 01:16:16.180
Chairman of Chaos: well like.

999
01:16:16.300 --> 01:16:17.400
Jeez Louize: You might want to chill out.

1000
01:16:17.400 --> 01:16:18.130
Chairman of Chaos: Poppy.

1001
01:16:18.690 --> 01:16:22.220
Jeez Louize: Hey man, get them A-pack out your pockets, Poppy.

1002
01:16:23.440 --> 01:16:40.089
Jeez Louize: And do some work. Don't tell my man to do work, you know, you go do work. You go figure it out. You get some things done. But, hey man, shout out to these victories in New York. Major, major win, major night for them. And certainly Matt Downey's first test of his political muscle.

1003
01:16:40.200 --> 01:16:54.790
Jeez Louize: to see, hey, he got, he got a little something going, and I think that, is worth noting. So we'll see how this turns out, and, what Democrats take from it. And, going forward, if you are a part of the Democratic Party and the GOP, you need some advice.

1004
01:16:55.600 --> 01:16:57.210
Jeez Louize: You can call the boys of the pod.

1005
01:16:57.210 --> 01:16:58.190
Chairman of Chaos: Let me upgrade.

1006
01:16:58.190 --> 01:16:58.810
Jeez Louize: thing.

1007
01:16:59.000 --> 01:16:59.770
Chairman of Chaos: Good.

1008
01:17:00.280 --> 01:17:01.000
MannyMaCoo: Check.

1009
01:17:01.350 --> 01:17:16.990
Jeez Louize: cut the check. But certainly, we'll keep you guys tuned as we go forward, as we, continue to press forward to midterms. So, with that being said, we're gonna switch, to our next topic, my next story going forward in Mayen.

1010
01:17:17.410 --> 01:17:19.500
Jeez Louize: That leads us to the Supreme Court.

1011
01:17:20.420 --> 01:17:22.179
Jeez Louize: Supreme Court been working, man.

1012
01:17:22.180 --> 01:17:22.730
Chairman of Chaos: It worked.

1013
01:17:23.700 --> 01:17:25.780
Jeez Louize: I don't know if it's good work, but.

1014
01:17:25.960 --> 01:17:29.780
Chairman of Chaos: As I say, they've been working, but they've been working my nerve.

1015
01:17:31.760 --> 01:17:36.010
MannyMaCoo: And what a change up from last week, like my spotlight last week about how, hey.

1016
01:17:36.310 --> 01:17:40.560
MannyMaCoo: They they usually don't fall on party like they don't always fall on party lines.

1017
01:17:41.080 --> 01:17:41.719
Chairman of Chaos: It's okay.

1018
01:17:41.720 --> 01:17:42.120
MannyMaCoo: They do.

1019
01:17:42.120 --> 01:17:42.730
Chairman of Chaos: I'll close.

1020
01:17:42.750 --> 01:17:43.570
MannyMaCoo: And then, you know.

1021
01:17:43.570 --> 01:17:44.549
Chairman of Chaos: Why'd you keep it.

1022
01:17:44.550 --> 01:17:46.549
Jeez Louize: It'll tell you. It'll tell you.

1023
01:17:46.570 --> 01:17:49.840
Chairman of Chaos: Every single time. Every single time.

1024
01:17:50.430 --> 01:18:04.109
Jeez Louize: So there were 3 cases that we want to bring up and talk about in this segment that took place this past week, and each one is different, but together they tell us something important about where this court is headed.

1025
01:18:04.110 --> 01:18:16.100
Jeez Louize: So we're gonna start with probably, the least talked about one of the three, and then work our way through the other two cases. So the first one, we're gonna bring up is, Landor versus Louisiana.

1026
01:18:16.430 --> 01:18:24.740
Jeez Louize: And this is centered around the religious liberty in prison. So, there was a gentleman, named Damon Landor, who was a Rastafarian, so…

1027
01:18:24.880 --> 01:18:30.850
Jeez Louize: His religion, for those of you that don't know, requires him to keep his dreadlocks.

1028
01:18:31.140 --> 01:18:43.520
Jeez Louize: While serving time in the Louisiana prison, guards forcibly restrained him and shaved his head, even after he showed them court documents saying that Rastafarian prisoners were protected under federal law.

1029
01:18:43.590 --> 01:18:53.139
Jeez Louize: After his release, he sued the individual officers for money damages under the federal law known as the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act.

1030
01:18:53.500 --> 01:18:59.010
Jeez Louize: Well, the Supreme Court came with their decision, and the court ruled 6-3 against Landor.

1031
01:18:59.360 --> 01:19:16.449
Jeez Louize: Judge Neal wrote that Congress never clearly authorized lawsuits for money damages against individual prison officials using, that act. The, it's abbreviated RLUIPA. So, in other words, the court didn't

1032
01:19:16.730 --> 01:19:33.089
Jeez Louize: say what happened to Landor was okay, the court simply ruled he cannot recover money from officers personally under the Act. Now, why that matters is it becomes a huge conversation about, accountability. If government officials violate someone's religious right.

1033
01:19:33.260 --> 01:19:44.879
Jeez Louize: what remedies exist. The liberal justices argue that ruling, this ruling leaves prisoners with very little practical recourse when their rights are violated. So…

1034
01:19:45.150 --> 01:19:50.390
Jeez Louize: I'm gonna ask you this, Chuck, if the court agrees someone's rights were violated.

1035
01:19:51.390 --> 01:19:59.199
Jeez Louize: but says they can't sue the person that's responsible. Is that really protecting constitutional rights, or just recognizing those rights on paper?

1036
01:20:01.300 --> 01:20:07.510
Chairman of Chaos: Well, as the Brother here with the… Luscious locks.

1037
01:20:07.510 --> 01:20:08.190
Jeez Louize: The.

1038
01:20:08.190 --> 01:20:13.279
MannyMaCoo: Thank you, man. I really, I really appreciate you calling out my locks. I've been working.

1039
01:20:13.280 --> 01:20:15.470
Jeez Louize: Manny got him, they just in the back of his head.

1040
01:20:15.470 --> 01:20:16.389
MannyMaCoo: He got his.

1041
01:20:16.390 --> 01:20:17.829
Jeez Louize: Stevie Wonder going on.

1042
01:20:17.830 --> 01:20:21.619
Chairman of Chaos: His locks are on vacation right now. They'll return in the winter.

1043
01:20:22.490 --> 01:20:26.050
Chairman of Chaos: Just look, just like the, the birds flock south.

1044
01:20:30.760 --> 01:20:34.540
Chairman of Chaos: I'm sorry, this ruling is.

1045
01:20:35.310 --> 01:20:36.720
Chairman of Chaos: Very disturbing.

1046
01:20:36.880 --> 01:20:39.859
Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, and the reason it's so disturbing is because.

1047
01:20:40.350 --> 01:20:43.820
Chairman of Chaos: What I, what I take from what the.

1048
01:20:44.800 --> 01:20:53.230
Chairman of Chaos: ruling majority said was… Yeah, you were violated, but you can't sue to be compensated for it because

1049
01:20:53.520 --> 01:21:04.679
Chairman of Chaos: this person was not explicitly in contract with the federal government. So, to give a little more context, what they said was that the state

1050
01:21:04.830 --> 01:21:10.620
Chairman of Chaos: Is the one who is within contract with the federal government because the state is receiving the funding.

1051
01:21:10.830 --> 01:21:16.690
Chairman of Chaos: And because this individual who Cut his hair.

1052
01:21:17.590 --> 01:21:27.949
Chairman of Chaos: Was not the one who had the direct contract with the federal government, you can't sue them on the basis of them violating your federal.

1053
01:21:28.070 --> 01:21:29.100
Chairman of Chaos: Right.

1054
01:21:29.940 --> 01:21:33.399
Chairman of Chaos: Which is a bit asinine to me because.

1055
01:21:33.800 --> 01:21:36.139
Chairman of Chaos: This individual is an agent.

1056
01:21:36.620 --> 01:21:41.650
Chairman of Chaos: of the state, when they're doing work on behalf of the State.

1057
01:21:42.010 --> 01:21:45.029
Chairman of Chaos: That has signed the contract with the federal government.

1058
01:21:45.930 --> 01:21:53.640
Chairman of Chaos: And so, in this, You, you essentially say…

1059
01:21:55.430 --> 01:21:57.489
Chairman of Chaos: I and I'll use myself an example.

1060
01:21:57.880 --> 01:21:59.229
MannyMaCoo: I could be working…

1061
01:21:59.480 --> 01:22:01.459
Chairman of Chaos: For the prison system.

1062
01:22:02.220 --> 01:22:08.550
Chairman of Chaos: And you come in and I violate an individual right of yours.

1063
01:22:09.580 --> 01:22:10.950
Chairman of Chaos: But you can't sue me

1064
01:22:11.990 --> 01:22:20.019
Chairman of Chaos: Now, there may be other measures of recourse, but it's going to be a hard way and a long road to carry.

1065
01:22:21.050 --> 01:22:25.429
Chairman of Chaos: For going about those, measures of recourse.

1066
01:22:25.890 --> 01:22:30.850
Chairman of Chaos: But… Me, as the person who… Violated you.

1067
01:22:32.440 --> 01:22:40.979
Chairman of Chaos: There's very little recourse for me unless the, you know, Prison system, or the state…

1068
01:22:41.100 --> 01:22:43.499
Chairman of Chaos: you know, fires me, I could lose my job.

1069
01:22:44.080 --> 01:22:49.189
Chairman of Chaos: But outside of that, There's no there's no hard course of action.

1070
01:22:49.540 --> 01:22:54.239
Chairman of Chaos: That an individual could take against me and this is very concerning.

1071
01:22:54.670 --> 01:22:57.449
Chairman of Chaos: Because it opens a window.

1072
01:22:58.540 --> 01:23:04.050
Chairman of Chaos: That they may not want to open or it opens, it opens a window.

1073
01:23:04.370 --> 01:23:06.850
Chairman of Chaos: That will not be beneficial.

1074
01:23:07.280 --> 01:23:10.110
Chairman of Chaos: to… American citizens.

1075
01:23:10.760 --> 01:23:14.820
Chairman of Chaos: One of those windows is… in in saying this.

1076
01:23:17.180 --> 01:23:18.779
Chairman of Chaos: Time and mind restrictions.

1077
01:23:20.500 --> 01:23:24.199
Chairman of Chaos: You're saying that individuals And what…

1078
01:23:24.460 --> 01:23:27.589
Chairman of Chaos: Let me go back a little bit. The claw… what they said was…

1079
01:23:27.950 --> 01:23:36.759
Chairman of Chaos: when the State has a contract with the government, it's a spending clause, and only Congress can allocate on the spending clause.

1080
01:23:36.880 --> 01:23:43.569
Chairman of Chaos: So, in this… The individual does not have a contract with Congress on this spending clause.

1081
01:23:44.280 --> 01:23:46.199
Chairman of Chaos: So I think about a couple of different.

1082
01:23:46.350 --> 01:23:49.400
Chairman of Chaos: Instances where there are federal protections.

1083
01:23:49.800 --> 01:23:54.879
Chairman of Chaos: that States may receive funding for from the federal government.

1084
01:23:55.040 --> 01:23:58.849
Chairman of Chaos: That individuals can be violated and those individuals who

1085
01:23:59.120 --> 01:24:07.459
Chairman of Chaos: are the violators cannot have a financial responsibility to compensate those who they violate.

1086
01:24:09.700 --> 01:24:14.610
Chairman of Chaos: One of the easiest ones that you can see this in is ADA and Rehabilitation Act.

1087
01:24:15.560 --> 01:24:19.220
Chairman of Chaos: You have individuals who are working for facilities.

1088
01:24:19.220 --> 01:24:19.820
MannyMaCoo: Yep.

1089
01:24:19.840 --> 01:24:20.750
Chairman of Chaos: Okay.

1090
01:24:20.950 --> 01:24:28.510
Chairman of Chaos: Better… It's either state ran or contracted by the state and receiving Medicaid, Medicare.

1091
01:24:28.680 --> 01:24:30.609
Chairman of Chaos: To pay for these services?

1092
01:24:30.960 --> 01:24:34.730
Chairman of Chaos: And you have someone in this institution who violates them.

1093
01:24:35.610 --> 01:24:41.160
Chairman of Chaos: Under this ADA and Rehabilitation Act, Section 504, to be specific.

1094
01:24:41.480 --> 01:24:44.609
Chairman of Chaos: Bans, disabilities, discrimination.

1095
01:24:45.110 --> 01:24:45.780
Chairman of Chaos: Oh.

1096
01:24:46.280 --> 01:24:52.890
Chairman of Chaos: But someone violates this, and There's no legal recourse or monetary compensation.

1097
01:24:53.170 --> 01:24:56.459
Chairman of Chaos: That the individual can seek out.

1098
01:24:56.650 --> 01:24:58.079
Chairman of Chaos: Against this person.

1099
01:24:58.520 --> 01:25:02.399
Chairman of Chaos: Now, these things are put in place To protect these individuals.

1100
01:25:02.760 --> 01:25:05.209
Chairman of Chaos: In the, in the period of.

1101
01:25:05.390 --> 01:25:15.960
Chairman of Chaos: instances where there's been violations, there's been discrimination, and that's why these acts and laws have come into play, because there's been things that have happened.

1102
01:25:16.080 --> 01:25:24.020
Chairman of Chaos: that we're trying… the federal government is trying to protect these people against. So you… now you open the door for somebody to…

1103
01:25:24.430 --> 01:25:26.660
Chairman of Chaos: Piss on that protection for…

1104
01:25:27.370 --> 01:25:34.279
Chairman of Chaos: Back of cool, and I, and I said pissed to, to, to district, did this, blah, blah, blah.

1105
01:25:34.620 --> 01:25:35.500
MannyMaCoo: To do.

1106
01:25:35.500 --> 01:25:42.219
Chairman of Chaos: Women's Street How low it would be for someone to violate these federal protections.

1107
01:25:42.610 --> 01:25:44.560
Chairman of Chaos: Another one, Title IX.

1108
01:25:45.630 --> 01:25:49.220
Chairman of Chaos: You don't know what Title IX is, you need to…

1109
01:25:49.850 --> 01:25:52.020
Chairman of Chaos: You got a problem with it yourself.

1110
01:25:54.110 --> 01:26:00.280
Chairman of Chaos: But essentially prohibiting sex discrimination in federally funded education spaces.

1111
01:26:01.140 --> 01:26:08.530
Chairman of Chaos: So now I could have a PE teacher, I could have a coach, I could have a teacher, I could have an admin.

1112
01:26:09.010 --> 01:26:12.709
Chairman of Chaos: Who who discriminates on a sexual basis.

1113
01:26:14.370 --> 01:26:18.950
Chairman of Chaos: And… Again, there's… That lack of recourse.

1114
01:26:19.700 --> 01:26:32.469
Chairman of Chaos: There's one that I in my research and we were talking about the pod and what we were going to discuss that popped up to me that I did not realize at first or it wasn't prominent for me.

1115
01:26:32.840 --> 01:26:42.719
Chairman of Chaos: Title VI limitations. And what Title VI bars is race, color, or national origin discrimination in programs receiving federal funds.

1116
01:26:42.880 --> 01:26:49.400
Chairman of Chaos: And the reason it stood out so much for me is because what are we dealing with right now in today's society?

1117
01:26:49.400 --> 01:26:51.240
MannyMaCoo: Yep, yep.

1118
01:26:51.830 --> 01:26:53.370
Chairman of Chaos: It's so.

1119
01:26:53.480 --> 01:26:58.900
Chairman of Chaos: You know, individuals, it, it can be as simple as someone at the hospital.

1120
01:26:59.930 --> 01:27:04.950
Chairman of Chaos: discriminating against you, based off race, color, or national origin.

1121
01:27:07.380 --> 01:27:11.579
Chairman of Chaos: You would think I go to the hospital, there's not going to be that, that bias.

1122
01:27:11.950 --> 01:27:13.880
Chairman of Chaos: But we all know.

1123
01:27:14.040 --> 01:27:16.660
Chairman of Chaos: Unfortunately.

1124
01:27:16.660 --> 01:27:18.529
MannyMaCoo: There's gonna be some bias.

1125
01:27:18.530 --> 01:27:19.819
Chairman of Chaos: It's gonna be some bias

1126
01:27:21.040 --> 01:27:30.390
Chairman of Chaos: And so this ruling was very disheartening in that regard because it opens that door because of.

1127
01:27:30.920 --> 01:27:43.240
Chairman of Chaos: It was disheartening for that reason for me, but at the same time, seeing what this court has done and this majority group has already done in many other aspects.

1128
01:27:43.550 --> 01:27:44.829
Chairman of Chaos: It wasn't shocking.

1129
01:27:46.480 --> 01:27:47.240
MannyMaCoo: I…

1130
01:27:47.240 --> 01:27:49.049
Chairman of Chaos: And it's sad to say that.

1131
01:27:50.030 --> 01:27:51.649
MannyMaCoo: I, I think what's.

1132
01:27:51.770 --> 01:27:56.280
MannyMaCoo: Concerning for me is let's say it wasn't.

1133
01:27:57.030 --> 01:28:01.690
MannyMaCoo: It wasn't dreads and he wasn't Rastafarian. Let's say.

1134
01:28:01.840 --> 01:28:07.470
MannyMaCoo: It was rosary beads, and he was Catholic, and those were snatched away.

1135
01:28:07.830 --> 01:28:18.689
MannyMaCoo: And I think what we have seen from the court this year is that there's been expanded religious liberty for Christian faiths.

1136
01:28:19.190 --> 01:28:24.700
MannyMaCoo: Yes. But that has not… Constituted down to other religions.

1137
01:28:25.030 --> 01:28:25.720
Chairman of Chaos: Thanks.

1138
01:28:26.260 --> 01:28:35.219
MannyMaCoo: And… For everyone to say, and it's a very poor notion, a very poor understanding about who.

1139
01:28:35.390 --> 01:28:40.379
MannyMaCoo: Sorry, a poor understanding of history and how we got here.

1140
01:28:40.600 --> 01:28:41.210
Chairman of Chaos: Mmhm.

1141
01:28:41.210 --> 01:28:44.239
MannyMaCoo: America was not founded as a Christian country.

1142
01:28:44.420 --> 01:28:45.120
Chairman of Chaos: Nope.

1143
01:28:45.450 --> 01:28:49.059
MannyMaCoo: We were founded under religious liberty.

1144
01:28:50.320 --> 01:28:51.160
Chairman of Chaos: preach brother.

1145
01:28:51.160 --> 01:28:52.520
MannyMaCoo: Like, let's…

1146
01:28:52.520 --> 01:28:54.980
Chairman of Chaos: Getting away from religious persecution.

1147
01:28:54.980 --> 01:29:04.829
MannyMaCoo: Right. So, I think that's concerning. I think the argument that was made that, oh, the guards didn't know.

1148
01:29:05.190 --> 01:29:14.769
MannyMaCoo: Clarence Thomas, what happened to the whole ignoratus juris non excusat, which essentially means ignorance of the law is not an excuse.

1149
01:29:14.770 --> 01:29:15.810
Chairman of Chaos: No excuse.

1150
01:29:15.810 --> 01:29:16.130
MannyMaCoo: You know.

1151
01:29:16.130 --> 01:29:19.209
Chairman of Chaos: And it's crazy that they say they didn't know when the man.

1152
01:29:20.490 --> 01:29:21.230
MannyMaCoo: Was clear.

1153
01:29:21.230 --> 01:29:21.630
Chairman of Chaos: Main.

1154
01:29:21.630 --> 01:29:22.500
MannyMaCoo: Understanding.

1155
01:29:22.500 --> 01:29:25.540
Chairman of Chaos: Well, not just that, he was one who.

1156
01:29:25.970 --> 01:29:37.760
Chairman of Chaos: Was very much aware of the law and even came with documents of the law in hand when he was transferred. So what happened when he transferred, he was close to time to being released.

1157
01:29:37.910 --> 01:29:44.349
Chairman of Chaos: And he was transferred from one location to another facility and I'm, I'm willing to bet in, in my.

1158
01:29:44.590 --> 01:29:46.450
Chairman of Chaos: Bit of knowledge in.

1159
01:29:46.630 --> 01:29:50.500
Chairman of Chaos: in the correctional facility structure.

1160
01:29:50.700 --> 01:29:56.740
Chairman of Chaos: There's a step-down facility that he's going to, especially when you're coming close to release.

1161
01:29:56.850 --> 01:30:02.810
Chairman of Chaos: And he was transferred to the steps, step down facility and him knowing.

1162
01:30:03.130 --> 01:30:10.819
Chairman of Chaos: as as it been through the system, and probably being at multiple low facilities. When I go what they allow at one place.

1163
01:30:11.180 --> 01:30:23.939
Chairman of Chaos: They may give me a hard time about somewhere else. So I'm gonna take this paperwork with me and it says that he had the paperwork with the law with him and presented this to them.

1164
01:30:24.640 --> 01:30:27.290
Chairman of Chaos: Before they handcuffed him to the chair.

1165
01:30:27.840 --> 01:30:32.830
Chairman of Chaos: And tore it up and was like, we don't get in Paraphrasing.

1166
01:30:33.430 --> 01:30:46.110
MannyMaCoo: And I think the interesting thing, if you look at this ruling and you hear from the majority, one of the things that they said is that, hey, we're not saying that his religious rights weren't violated.

1167
01:30:46.110 --> 01:30:46.650
Chairman of Chaos: Yep.

1168
01:30:46.650 --> 01:31:03.680
MannyMaCoo: It said… they said it only decided that you cannot sue the officer who violated them. Yep. So for me, it's like, okay, so let's take a step back, let's replace the officers that he has sued with the… the… the state corrections facility.

1169
01:31:03.800 --> 01:31:12.740
MannyMaCoo: You're saying that he would have been compensated? And then to also think about how this is far-reaching when you go to incidents of police brutality.

1170
01:31:12.740 --> 01:31:13.480
Chairman of Chaos: Yep.

1171
01:31:14.150 --> 01:31:28.980
MannyMaCoo: so what I'm understanding from this case, under this particular application of the law, not in the case of religious freedom, but just in any other civil liberty guaranteed to us by the Constitution, that those people

1172
01:31:29.660 --> 01:31:38.380
MannyMaCoo: who violate those if acting under the permission of another organization are not liable.

1173
01:31:38.640 --> 01:31:46.200
MannyMaCoo: And I think when you start thinking about the precedent, the application of this becomes really, really problematic.

1174
01:31:46.300 --> 01:31:59.650
MannyMaCoo: It very much also seems, and again, I am not a legal expert, but I almost feel like this was going after the wrong law. Like, there's another one called the Religious Freedom and Restoration Act.

1175
01:31:59.650 --> 01:32:09.249
MannyMaCoo: that I feel like you can, and it does allow for personal damage suits to be filed, so I kind of feel like that should have probably been the angle.

1176
01:32:10.170 --> 01:32:17.110
Chairman of Chaos: But in in that, for him, it was, Because of his…

1177
01:32:17.550 --> 01:32:23.490
Chairman of Chaos: not so much restitution, but they… his argument was they violated

1178
01:32:24.380 --> 01:32:31.210
Chairman of Chaos: The institutionalized person, the religious land and use is into, I can't even talk Jesus Christ.

1179
01:32:31.930 --> 01:32:36.540
Chairman of Chaos: institutionalized persons act because that was the foundation of.

1180
01:32:36.540 --> 01:32:36.980
MannyMaCoo: Okay.

1181
01:32:36.980 --> 01:32:43.730
Chairman of Chaos: him being able to grow his hair out for as long as he had been growing it out, and how long it was.

1182
01:32:43.890 --> 01:32:46.969
Chairman of Chaos: And, and to your point, Manny,

1183
01:32:48.350 --> 01:32:52.970
Chairman of Chaos: Just… With your job, anybody, all of us, with our jobs.

1184
01:32:53.280 --> 01:32:59.490
Chairman of Chaos: There are certain clauses that you have agreed to or signed off on.

1185
01:32:59.600 --> 01:33:01.689
Chairman of Chaos: As an agent of that.

1186
01:33:01.690 --> 01:33:02.630
MannyMaCoo: I'm back.

1187
01:33:03.810 --> 01:33:18.569
Chairman of Chaos: And there's certain things that you can do that they tell you will result in your termination because you make the company liable for your actions as a… operating as an agent of this entity.

1188
01:33:18.660 --> 01:33:27.490
Chairman of Chaos: Or this institution and it baffles me that this is their ruling when this person is clearly.

1189
01:33:28.160 --> 01:33:28.820
Chairman of Chaos: And in…

1190
01:33:28.820 --> 01:33:29.420
MannyMaCoo: Clearly.

1191
01:33:29.420 --> 01:33:39.179
Chairman of Chaos: operating as an agent of this institution. Like, there's no separation. It would be different if he was off the clock.

1192
01:33:39.500 --> 01:33:44.540
Chairman of Chaos: Away from the facility and something happened. This man was in uniform.

1193
01:33:44.760 --> 01:33:46.949
Chairman of Chaos: On the intake process.

1194
01:33:47.560 --> 01:33:48.590
Chairman of Chaos: At the facility.

1195
01:33:48.590 --> 01:33:50.040
MannyMaCoo: Checked in.

1196
01:33:51.140 --> 01:33:54.250
Chairman of Chaos: It it it's it's nasty, man, but yeah, that.

1197
01:33:55.600 --> 01:33:57.289
MannyMaCoo: I think…

1198
01:33:57.290 --> 01:34:02.389
Chairman of Chaos: And and and the fact over real quick, the fact that they they.

1199
01:34:02.670 --> 01:34:05.189
Chairman of Chaos: They all agree that his rights were violated.

1200
01:34:05.190 --> 01:34:05.930
MannyMaCoo: Yep.

1201
01:34:05.930 --> 01:34:10.269
Chairman of Chaos: That's what's worse of it. Like, yeah, you were violated You can't su.

1202
01:34:10.270 --> 01:34:11.100
MannyMaCoo: Right.

1203
01:34:11.100 --> 01:34:11.610
Jeez Louize: That's.

1204
01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:23.039
MannyMaCoo: And I think that's the… that's the rough part about it, is like, okay, so… so there's no punishment for… like, if the federal government is…

1205
01:34:23.520 --> 01:34:25.689
MannyMaCoo: Is supposed to guarantee.

1206
01:34:25.970 --> 01:34:30.559
MannyMaCoo: a equal protection under the law. They set the floor.

1207
01:34:30.850 --> 01:34:41.389
MannyMaCoo: At minimum, states can go higher, states can't go below the feds, but… so for this to have happened, and for him to have not received any level of compensation.

1208
01:34:41.600 --> 01:34:48.050
MannyMaCoo: either… it sounds like it's just personal, so I don't know if there's a case pending against the state of Louisiana.

1209
01:34:48.560 --> 01:34:50.109
Chairman of Chaos: It's not, I'm sure he.

1210
01:34:50.110 --> 01:34:51.970
MannyMaCoo: I'm sure one's probably en route

1211
01:34:52.090 --> 01:35:00.460
MannyMaCoo: But I think this is concerning, not only from the standpoint of an agency being able to violate

1212
01:35:00.750 --> 01:35:06.800
MannyMaCoo: A organization because I think the other thing that would be concerning is if he'd already tried to sue the institution.

1213
01:35:06.970 --> 01:35:18.449
MannyMaCoo: the state of Louisiana is like, oh, you can't sue us, you have to sue the individual people. Well then, we've struck out on both, and then somebody's doing something unconstitutional here that we need to take a deeper look at.

1214
01:35:20.960 --> 01:35:21.530
Jeez Louize: Well, I.

1215
01:35:21.530 --> 01:35:21.980
Chairman of Chaos: You know.

1216
01:35:21.980 --> 01:35:24.530
Jeez Louize: And when you look at this case, man, it's certainly…

1217
01:35:25.090 --> 01:35:31.919
Jeez Louize: alarming, especially when you hear a court tell you that the highest court in the land, yeah, you were violated, but…

1218
01:35:32.310 --> 01:35:33.250
MannyMaCoo: Too bad.

1219
01:35:33.250 --> 01:35:49.250
Jeez Louize: do about that. It is not something that is… I can only imagine the, you know, the emotional damage that he has suffered, because this isn't just a matter of, hey, I grew my hair out, and, you know, you cut my hair, and I didn't want my hair cut. This is religious. You know, I believe that

1220
01:35:49.550 --> 01:35:54.159
Jeez Louize: The report said that he, his hair had been growing for, I believe, 20, 20 plus years. Yep.

1221
01:35:54.160 --> 01:35:55.150
Chairman of Chaos: Yeah. Yes, sir.

1222
01:35:55.150 --> 01:36:08.660
Jeez Louize: been Rastafarian or practicing in that faith. And, you know, certainly if it was mainly brought about the rosaries, you know, if we see anyone of Christian faith, you know, we're not going to touch that. We're not going to let that be.

1223
01:36:08.880 --> 01:36:09.720
Jeez Louize: Umm.

1224
01:36:10.120 --> 01:36:13.819
Chairman of Chaos: Boy, the barn burner. The barn burner.

1225
01:36:13.820 --> 01:36:15.049
Jeez Louize: but someone else.

1226
01:36:15.210 --> 01:36:22.170
Jeez Louize: You know. Certainly you would think that with the freedom that we have to all practice our faith in whatever capacity we do.

1227
01:36:22.390 --> 01:36:30.899
Jeez Louize: This gentleman here, you know, is only seeking for what's been done wrong to him to be right, or at least be made whole, because you can't undo the damage.

1228
01:36:31.280 --> 01:36:40.770
Jeez Louize: That can't happen from the highest court in the land. It's just, it's sad. But it didn't stop there. It didn't stop there with the Supreme Court. As we said earlier, they were

1229
01:36:41.390 --> 01:36:55.799
Jeez Louize: The next case they had was Mullen versus Doe, which is centered around the temporary protection status. So the temporary protection status, or the TPS, is granted to people already living in America.

1230
01:36:55.950 --> 01:37:02.710
Jeez Louize: when their home countries become unsafe because of war or natural disasters.

1231
01:37:02.940 --> 01:37:15.200
Jeez Louize: This case is centered around the Trump's administration's decision to terminate the TPS protections of Syrians and Haitian nationals. Law courts have blocked that decision. The administration, of course, appealed it.

1232
01:37:15.980 --> 01:37:20.410
Jeez Louize: The Supreme Court, in their ruling, sided with the administration.

1233
01:37:20.520 --> 01:37:37.860
Jeez Louize: the court ruled that decisions regarding the TPS fall largely within executive authority granted by Congress, meaning that the President has broad discretion to end TPS protections when federal law gives that authority. So, for thousands of people who

1234
01:37:38.060 --> 01:37:55.879
Jeez Louize: previously had legal permission to remain and work in the United States could lose those protections. Now, we have supporters saying that the president, not judges, should decide immigration policy, but those that are opposing argue that this creates instability for families who have lived here legally

1235
01:37:56.000 --> 01:37:56.860
Jeez Louize: For years.

1236
01:37:56.860 --> 01:37:57.610
MannyMaCoo: For years.

1237
01:37:57.610 --> 01:38:00.060
Jeez Louize: In addition to this, I'm going to go to you, Man

1238
01:38:00.230 --> 01:38:09.109
Jeez Louize: is that should immigration programs like the TPS change every time there's a new administration, or should Congress be the one setting those permanent policies?

1239
01:38:09.850 --> 01:38:11.759
MannyMaCoo: Congress, next question.

1240
01:38:13.580 --> 01:38:18.900
MannyMaCoo: Like, Congress sets the law, the executive branch.

1241
01:38:19.330 --> 01:38:20.990
MannyMaCoo: Enforces it.

1242
01:38:21.370 --> 01:38:34.570
MannyMaCoo: and the courts… the judicial determines the… the legal ramifications from it. Like, this is basic civics 101, that I… that I think we figure out every week is apparently not…

1243
01:38:34.940 --> 01:38:38.750
MannyMaCoo: That basic…

1244
01:38:39.080 --> 01:38:48.169
MannyMaCoo: And I think it's key for this case to remember how we got here. It started with Noam and Trump.

1245
01:38:48.570 --> 01:38:57.879
MannyMaCoo: Yanking this from Haiti, calling it a shithole country. And I only say the full word because that's what the president said. And, you know, that'll work.

1246
01:38:57.880 --> 01:38:58.290
Chairman of Chaos: Word.

1247
01:38:58.290 --> 01:38:58.859
MannyMaCoo: What do you.

1248
01:38:58.860 --> 01:38:59.620
Chairman of Chaos: Verbatim.

1249
01:38:59.620 --> 01:38:59.940
MannyMaCoo: Yes.

1250
01:38:59.940 --> 01:39:01.930
Chairman of Chaos: And that almost was a direct quote.

1251
01:39:01.930 --> 01:39:02.720
MannyMaCoo: Yes.

1252
01:39:02.860 --> 01:39:03.790
MannyMaCoo: And…

1253
01:39:03.790 --> 01:39:04.740
Jeez Louize: Thank you.

1254
01:39:04.740 --> 01:39:07.020
MannyMaCoo: And that so not only.

1255
01:39:07.500 --> 01:39:18.869
MannyMaCoo: Did he do it? His basis behind it was not in American security, but it was just purely racial, and that's why this got shut down.

1256
01:39:19.030 --> 01:39:29.100
MannyMaCoo: So… It's… it's kind of ridiculous, especially when we're talking about in this case. Now, are there areas where…

1257
01:39:29.270 --> 01:39:41.820
MannyMaCoo: the… we want to… do we want the presidency? I won't… I won't say Trump, I'm gonna abstract it enough and talk about the role. We were… where we want the presidency to have the ability to make these decisions? Yes.

1258
01:39:41.900 --> 01:39:52.259
MannyMaCoo: But this is also what happens when we have a Congress that's deadlocked that can't make any type of decisions for themselves because they can't get the votes.

1259
01:39:52.570 --> 01:40:05.549
MannyMaCoo: Because everyone is so stalled in their own corners that they refuse to listen to one another, or even have a conversation, or do this crazy C-word, compromise.

1260
01:40:05.700 --> 01:40:06.120
MannyMaCoo: I know.

1261
01:40:06.120 --> 01:40:09.400
Chairman of Chaos: What does that mean? I've never heard of it.

1262
01:40:09.400 --> 01:40:09.800
MannyMaCoo: So.

1263
01:40:09.800 --> 01:40:10.849
Jeez Louize: Or hand that word.

1264
01:40:10.850 --> 01:40:18.510
MannyMaCoo: Yes, should we afford the presidency some latitude? Yes, but the reasons behind that latitude should be lawful.

1265
01:40:18.710 --> 01:40:19.490
Jeez Louize: Yes.

1266
01:40:20.350 --> 01:40:27.410
MannyMaCoo: And does not overstep the bounds of which Congress has granted the ability of the branch to make that decision.

1267
01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:31.969
Jeez Louize: Complete abuse, in my opinion. Complete abuse.

1268
01:40:32.740 --> 01:40:40.419
MannyMaCoo: I won't… I won't say it's… I won't say it's… I won't say it's complete abuse, but it's very asterisked with… it is

1269
01:40:40.420 --> 01:40:54.000
MannyMaCoo: him making the decision that Haiti… people from Haiti should no longer be able to receive this status, that is within his power. But he is supposed to provide a reason. That reason that he provided

1270
01:40:54.000 --> 01:40:57.590
MannyMaCoo: was completely… Illegal.

1271
01:40:57.760 --> 01:40:59.750
Chairman of Chaos: Yes. And that's what we got here.

1272
01:40:59.750 --> 01:41:00.250
MannyMaCoo: here.

1273
01:41:00.250 --> 01:41:08.910
Chairman of Chaos: Complete abuse. It's abuse. It's abuse. It's abuse because it's abuse because you're impacting those who have been here.

1274
01:41:09.160 --> 01:41:16.609
Chairman of Chaos: for years, some even decades, who have been law-abiding citizens, who have paid into

1275
01:41:16.910 --> 01:41:20.509
Chairman of Chaos: To the country who have who have paid into their community.

1276
01:41:20.510 --> 01:41:20.860
Jeez Louize: Trig.

1277
01:41:20.860 --> 01:41:27.840
Chairman of Chaos: who are fantastic contributing individuals in their communities and.

1278
01:41:29.190 --> 01:41:30.940
Chairman of Chaos: Because of your racism.

1279
01:41:31.820 --> 01:41:35.410
Chairman of Chaos: And there's no other way to put it Because of your racism.

1280
01:41:35.560 --> 01:41:45.560
Chairman of Chaos: You're looking to strip this protection and quite possibly deport them back to their home country, which is in political unrest.

1281
01:41:45.720 --> 01:41:50.389
Chairman of Chaos: Guess what? Largely at the hands of the United States meddling.

1282
01:41:50.390 --> 01:41:54.399
MannyMaCoo: Here, here's another piece on this that is so troubling.

1283
01:41:55.370 --> 01:41:57.590
MannyMaCoo: Good ol' Clarence Thomas.

1284
01:41:58.490 --> 01:41:59.200
Chairman of Chaos: Boom.

1285
01:41:59.200 --> 01:41:59.770
Jeez Louize: I don'.

1286
01:41:59.770 --> 01:42:00.150
MannyMaCoo: Okay.

1287
01:42:00.150 --> 01:42:02.270
Jeez Louize: Good old.

1288
01:42:02.270 --> 01:42:05.110
MannyMaCoo: So, old Clarence. Yeah.

1289
01:42:05.110 --> 01:42:07.140
Jeez Louize: Terrible, terrible claim.

1290
01:42:07.140 --> 01:42:07.760
Chairman of Chaos: Terrible.

1291
01:42:07.760 --> 01:42:16.049
MannyMaCoo: He basically came out and argued that non-citizens have no equal protection rights against the federal government.

1292
01:42:16.770 --> 01:42:18.470
MannyMaCoo: And that's a problem.

1293
01:42:18.580 --> 01:42:29.519
MannyMaCoo: Because what does that mean not only for just the people from Haiti, that for everyone that is a non-citizen, our green card holders, our visa holder, our…

1294
01:42:29.520 --> 01:42:31.180
Chairman of Chaos: You say it's about Jews.

1295
01:42:32.590 --> 01:42:32.980
Jeez Louize: Mmm.

1296
01:42:32.980 --> 01:42:40.870
MannyMaCoo: Now, if we do not, so what we're saying is that if you are not a citizen, you have no equal protection.

1297
01:42:41.450 --> 01:42:47.989
MannyMaCoo: What does that mean for a larger amount of the population here in the United States?

1298
01:42:48.300 --> 01:43:04.389
MannyMaCoo: How do they feel? If I'm here under a green card, and if I've started filing for the process of becoming a citizen, do I have protections? At what point do I gain protections of the Constitution?

1299
01:43:04.490 --> 01:43:13.759
MannyMaCoo: Is it at citizenship? Is it after I file the papers? Is it after those papers are approved? With that statement, he has thrown the…

1300
01:43:14.310 --> 01:43:21.130
MannyMaCoo: The stance of millions of millions of people within this country into question.

1301
01:43:21.590 --> 01:43:32.780
MannyMaCoo: He cited that, hey, the 14th Amendment was to protect freed Black people, and applies only to the states and not to the federal government. That's wild.

1302
01:43:33.020 --> 01:43:33.799
Jeez Louize: Very well.

1303
01:43:33.800 --> 01:43:56.979
MannyMaCoo: That's wild. So you're saying the states have to abide, but you as the, the states need to provide that protection. Well, the states only can provide up to a certain point because in the constitution, we say that anything that the states don't define, we fall back to the federal government. So now you've created even a larger hole of protections and stuff that.

1304
01:43:56.980 --> 01:44:03.420
MannyMaCoo: No matter what state is not going to have on their books because of the dependency.

1305
01:44:03.500 --> 01:44:17.260
MannyMaCoo: of the 10th Amendment, that if it's not going to be covered by the feds, not going to be covered by the states, it falls back to what the federal government does. This is really dangerous, this is very problematic.

1306
01:44:17.310 --> 01:44:25.730
MannyMaCoo: And not only for the people in Haiti whose questions of status is immediately in question, but long-term for everyone else who's here.

1307
01:44:26.900 --> 01:44:29.769
Chairman of Chaos: So this is what I this is what I propose to them.

1308
01:44:30.390 --> 01:44:33.809
Chairman of Chaos: Hear down the Statue of Li Tear down.

1309
01:44:34.120 --> 01:44:38.200
MannyMaCoo: We, we don't want you, we don't want you're sick, you're hurting.

1310
01:44:38.200 --> 01:44:43.459
Chairman of Chaos: Give me your tired, give me your poor, give me your huddled masses, yearning to breathe free. Tear it down

1311
01:44:44.330 --> 01:44:45.540
Chairman of Chaos: What's the purpose?

1312
01:44:45.540 --> 01:44:46.140
MannyMaCoo: Yep.

1313
01:44:46.700 --> 01:44:53.490
Chairman of Chaos: It has, it has no purpose at all, because this, that's not to speak to those who are already citizens.

1314
01:44:54.450 --> 01:44:55.140
MannyMaCoo: Yep.

1315
01:44:56.660 --> 01:44:59.290
Jeez Louize: Well, if you want to tear it down, I think you can just.

1316
01:45:00.530 --> 01:45:04.950
Chairman of Chaos: They don't want it. It got a stench on it. It has a nasty stench on it.

1317
01:45:06.040 --> 01:45:06.909
Jeez Louize: I mean, you know.

1318
01:45:06.910 --> 01:45:08.010
Chairman of Chaos: And they already have one.

1319
01:45:08.010 --> 01:45:08.880
Jeez Louize: Yeah, man, is.

1320
01:45:08.880 --> 01:45:18.130
Chairman of Chaos: They already have one. They already have one over there. That's that that's smaller, but they already have one. And and don't give me the give back after all these years.

1321
01:45:18.130 --> 01:45:18.810
MannyMaCoo: Yes.

1322
01:45:18.960 --> 01:45:20.840
Chairman of Chaos: You smell like your house.

1323
01:45:23.350 --> 01:45:25.190
MannyMaCoo: And to think about…

1324
01:45:25.190 --> 01:45:26.020
Chairman of Chaos: Hello, Rick.

1325
01:45:26.020 --> 01:45:26.990
Jeez Louize: Every day.

1326
01:45:26.990 --> 01:45:29.509
Chairman of Chaos: Hold on, I gotta be chaos. I gotta get some ch.

1327
01:45:29.510 --> 01:45:30.000
Jeez Louize: Okay.

1328
01:45:30.000 --> 01:45:33.840
Chairman of Chaos: Y'all y'all ever had some somebody borrow something from you.

1329
01:45:34.660 --> 01:45:49.329
Chairman of Chaos: And when they give it back, it smell like their house and you got a whole attitude. You smell it, you got to wash it. Or you go over somebody's house and sit there for a little while and you come back and you smell like their house and you get in your car and you're like, oh, I smell like that. I got to take this off.

1330
01:45:49.330 --> 01:45:50.329
Jeez Louize: Don't invite me.

1331
01:45:50.330 --> 01:45:51.500
Chairman of Chaos: Straight to the right was.

1332
01:45:51.820 --> 01:45:54.730
Jeez Louize: Don't invite me to your house if I leave. Smell like you.

1333
01:45:55.930 --> 01:46:01.060
Chairman of Chaos: Or you go to that person's house, and they fry chicken in the house, and you leave smelling like fried chick.

1334
01:46:02.630 --> 01:46:10.319
Jeez Louize: I got an uncle that do that, man. I don't know about you, Chuck, but we're having locks, bruh. That'd be the most annoying thing, bruh.

1335
01:46:10.320 --> 01:46:12.000
Chairman of Chaos: It's so hard to get.

1336
01:46:12.000 --> 01:46:15.440
MannyMaCoo: Out your locks, man. Yo, baby, you a fool, right?

1337
01:46:15.440 --> 01:46:17.320
Jeez Louize: Man, all you gotta do is just wipe the.

1338
01:46:17.320 --> 01:46:21.469
Chairman of Chaos: It's male on top of your head. Get a Lysol wipe.

1339
01:46:24.090 --> 01:46:29.539
Chairman of Chaos: Bruh, geez, it's been times where I've decided not to go out.

1340
01:46:29.540 --> 01:46:29.970
Jeez Louize: Can't.

1341
01:46:29.970 --> 01:46:31.969
Chairman of Chaos: Because I got a fresh retwist?

1342
01:46:31.970 --> 01:46:32.610
Jeez Louize: And I ain.

1343
01:46:32.610 --> 01:46:35.059
Chairman of Chaos: Oh, no, I'm not buying a house. No, s.

1344
01:46:35.060 --> 01:46:37.839
Jeez Louize: You want to, you want the fried, fried fish.

1345
01:46:40.430 --> 01:46:40.950
Jeez Louize: Ew.

1346
01:46:41.800 --> 01:46:44.279
Chairman of Chaos: Anybody who fries fish in the house is diabolical in.

1347
01:46:44.810 --> 01:46:45.910
Jeez Louize: Hey, bro. Listen.

1348
01:46:45.910 --> 01:46:56.420
Chairman of Chaos: That, that, that smell stays in there for a week and a half at least. I don't care what you do. I, you can Febreze, you can Lysol, you can Clorox, it's gonna be in that house for at least a week.

1349
01:46:56.660 --> 01:47:00.869
Jeez Louize: Bruh, I'm telling you, you gotta take that outside. You gotta take it outside.

1350
01:47:00.870 --> 01:47:01.660
Chairman of Chaos: All the way outside.

1351
01:47:01.660 --> 01:47:02.270
MannyMaCoo: Bye.

1352
01:47:02.270 --> 01:47:05.910
Jeez Louize: But, but I know, wait, wait, I was going to say this before we continue.

1353
01:47:06.190 --> 01:47:08.350
Jeez Louize: you Every day.

1354
01:47:08.530 --> 01:47:15.879
Jeez Louize: I, I, I am inclined to believe it. Matter of fact, I, I know that I'm probably about 90, 98, 99% sure what I'm about to say.

1355
01:47:17.040 --> 01:47:18.619
Jeez Louize: I know that every morning.

1356
01:47:19.370 --> 01:47:21.269
Jeez Louize: When Clarence Thomas gets ready for work.

1357
01:47:22.730 --> 01:47:25.450
Jeez Louize: He thinks, and looks himself in the mirror.

1358
01:47:25.970 --> 01:47:28.529
Jeez Louize: And it says, what way?

1359
01:47:29.050 --> 01:47:31.219
Jeez Louize: Can I possibly piss?

1360
01:47:31.680 --> 01:47:33.340
Jeez Louize: Third good martial law of the day.

1361
01:47:33.590 --> 01:47:36.060
MannyMaCoo: What can I do?

1362
01:47:37.630 --> 01:47:43.499
Jeez Louize: What actions can I take that can just be the equivalent of just pissing on his grave that I can do today?

1363
01:47:43.910 --> 01:47:44.360
Chairman of Chaos: Brother.

1364
01:47:44.360 --> 01:47:45.270
MannyMaCoo: Got you.

1365
01:47:45.810 --> 01:47:49.890
Chairman of Chaos: You know, you know, the old folks thought you never wish death on anybody.

1366
01:47:51.040 --> 01:47:53.690
Chairman of Chaos: But there's a couple people I would not be sad.

1367
01:47:53.950 --> 01:47:56.310
Chairman of Chaos: If we get a news report.

1368
01:47:57.330 --> 01:48:03.379
Chairman of Chaos: They're going up a yonder. I was about to say go to glory. No, I ain't saying up a yonder. They're going.

1369
01:48:03.380 --> 01:48:03.810
MannyMaCoo: They're.

1370
01:48:03.810 --> 01:48:04.390
Jeez Louize: Amen.

1371
01:48:04.390 --> 01:48:07.799
MannyMaCoo: They gone yonder. Now, whether that's up or down is up for debate.

1372
01:48:07.800 --> 01:48:08.520
Chairman of Chaos: They're going.

1373
01:48:08.520 --> 01:48:09.160
MannyMaCoo: Yonder.

1374
01:48:09.160 --> 01:48:09.680
Jeez Louize: Hey, listen.

1375
01:48:09.680 --> 01:48:13.370
Chairman of Chaos: There's a couple people on that list that I would not.

1376
01:48:13.600 --> 01:48:15.469
Chairman of Chaos: Seek sorrow or tear.

1377
01:48:16.260 --> 01:48:17.960
Jeez Louize: Sometimes, man, you know…

1378
01:48:19.090 --> 01:48:20.570
Chairman of Chaos: Let's say the good die young.

1379
01:48:22.820 --> 01:48:27.020
Jeez Louize: That's what they say, but it seems like the bad lasts a while, too.

1380
01:48:27.030 --> 01:48:27.720
MannyMaCoo: Mmhm.

1381
01:48:27.720 --> 01:48:33.729
Chairman of Chaos: No, that's what I'm saying. The good die young, the bad, the bad, the bad, the bad stick around too long.

1382
01:48:33.920 --> 01:48:37.460
Jeez Louize: Clarence, if the elevator of life seems to hold the door open for you.

1383
01:48:38.220 --> 01:48:38.920
Chairman of Chaos: You push that.

1384
01:48:38.920 --> 01:48:40.039
Jeez Louize: Thank you, bye.

1385
01:48:40.340 --> 01:48:42.530
Jeez Louize: So that you might can take that ride.

1386
01:48:43.210 --> 01:48:45.190
Jeez Louize: We wouldn't be mad, brother. But.

1387
01:48:45.190 --> 01:48:45.890
Chairman of Chaos: Okay, quick.

1388
01:48:45.890 --> 01:48:49.889
Jeez Louize: This is wild for that, man. And to Manny's point, man, you create a gap.

1389
01:48:50.070 --> 01:48:55.679
Jeez Louize: That just I mean, what do you do if there is no backing of the Federal for protection?

1390
01:48:56.470 --> 01:48:57.279
Jeez Louize: You just bring it.

1391
01:48:57.280 --> 01:49:05.030
MannyMaCoo: It's the constant precedence that keeps getting set over and over again that you're like, oh.

1392
01:49:05.030 --> 01:49:06.270
Jeez Louize: I don't want to do nothing.

1393
01:49:07.300 --> 01:49:08.480
MannyMaCoo: It was…

1394
01:49:08.480 --> 01:49:09.330
Jeez Louize: Nothing.

1395
01:49:09.330 --> 01:49:17.199
MannyMaCoo: But on the flip side, they're doing a whole lot. They're doing a whole lot. There's so many things that may… precedents that have been challenged.

1396
01:49:17.350 --> 01:49:18.280
MannyMaCoo: Light.

1397
01:49:22.270 --> 01:49:23.430
MannyMaCoo: I don't know, man.

1398
01:49:24.230 --> 01:49:25.219
Jeez Louize: Bruh, this is.

1399
01:49:25.220 --> 01:49:25.860
Chairman of Chaos: Crazy.

1400
01:49:25.860 --> 01:49:30.520
Jeez Louize: Well, if you think that the Supreme Court stopped there, guess what they did?

1401
01:49:30.730 --> 01:49:31.310
Chairman of Chaos: Okay.

1402
01:49:31.310 --> 01:49:33.999
MannyMaCoo: Another one. Another one.

1403
01:49:34.180 --> 01:49:37.639
Jeez Louize: I don't know, a vacation coming up soon or something, but they like, hey.

1404
01:49:37.640 --> 01:49:39.369
MannyMaCoo: They trying to get out for a summer.

1405
01:49:39.750 --> 01:49:40.860
Jeez Louize: That's what it is.

1406
01:49:41.220 --> 01:49:46.130
Jeez Louize: Klein's trying to get on one of those, trips paid for by one of these, foreign leaders.

1407
01:49:46.130 --> 01:49:47.030
Chairman of Chaos: You know it.

1408
01:49:47.030 --> 01:49:47.420
MannyMaCoo: Mmm.

1409
01:49:47.420 --> 01:49:48.090
Chairman of Chaos: Do you know?

1410
01:49:48.960 --> 01:49:52.209
Jeez Louize: I'm just gonna say this, my wife looked like Clarence.

1411
01:49:52.470 --> 01:49:53.540
Chairman of Chaos: Mmm.

1412
01:49:54.040 --> 01:49:55.940
Chairman of Chaos: I'll be on somebody else's boat.

1413
01:49:58.050 --> 01:49:59.850
Jeez Louize: That's all I'm saying. I believe

1414
01:50:01.000 --> 01:50:06.720
Jeez Louize: The next case that they had, in the hat trick of what they did this past week.

1415
01:50:06.970 --> 01:50:11.739
Jeez Louize: Was Mullen versus Al Otra Lado.

1416
01:50:11.920 --> 01:50:17.199
Jeez Louize: Which is Asylum at the Border. Now, this to me is… This one's crazy.

1417
01:50:17.200 --> 01:50:17.760
Chairman of Chaos: Mmm.

1418
01:50:18.310 --> 01:50:30.179
Jeez Louize: For years, there has always been this major legal question. When someone reaches the US port of entry but remains physically on the Mexican side.

1419
01:50:30.180 --> 01:50:39.589
Jeez Louize: Have they legally arrived in the United States? That answer determines whether they're entitled to apply for asylum immediately.

1420
01:50:39.600 --> 01:50:46.630
Jeez Louize: And, if you're listening, Guess what? The court hit a 6-3 again. Judge Samuel wrote.

1421
01:50:46.890 --> 01:51:05.249
Jeez Louize: that someone standing on the Mexican side of the border has not legally arrived in the United States under the Immigration and Nationality Act. Therefore, they are not entitled to asylum processing until they physically

1422
01:51:05.460 --> 01:51:06.530
Jeez Louize: Enter…

1423
01:51:06.830 --> 01:51:26.730
Jeez Louize: US territory. Now, supporters argue that this follows the plain language of immigration law. It gives border officials more authority, it reduces incentives to overwhelm ports of entry, and it strengthens executive power over border operations. But the critics argue here that this effectively shuts off

1424
01:51:26.730 --> 01:51:31.840
Jeez Louize: shuts off asylum access for many vulnerable immigrants.

1425
01:51:31.870 --> 01:51:36.450
Jeez Louize: Just Justice Sotomayor.

1426
01:51:36.500 --> 01:51:47.169
Jeez Louize: warned that the bench in this ruling could have life or death consequences for people that are fleeing persecution. So in this

1427
01:51:47.480 --> 01:51:56.430
Jeez Louize: Is the court simply interpreting what Congress wrote, or are they making immigration significantly harder through this interpretation?

1428
01:51:56.730 --> 01:51:58.909
Jeez Louize: My brother Manny, I'm gonna go to you first.

1429
01:52:00.140 --> 01:52:01.270
MannyMaCoo: I'm…

1430
01:52:01.810 --> 01:52:04.230
Chairman of Chaos: I was waiting for a one-word answer. That's correct.

1431
01:52:04.480 --> 01:52:06.399
Jeez Louize: Well, I'm for this.

1432
01:52:06.560 --> 01:52:11.469
MannyMaCoo: I'm frustrated about this one because like I understand the majority ruling.

1433
01:52:11.650 --> 01:52:20.670
MannyMaCoo: But the… it's… the ruling doesn't take… the majority ruling, I feel as though, does not take into account of the reality of what is happening.

1434
01:52:21.010 --> 01:52:21.550
Jeez Louize: Mmh.

1435
01:52:21.800 --> 01:52:23.710
MannyMaCoo: Like, literally.

1436
01:52:24.130 --> 01:52:38.350
MannyMaCoo: they're stopping people from getting… getting to the… getting to the base. This is… it's literally like one of those cases, baseball players trying to run, trying to tag the base, and they're throwing the ball, trying to keep them away from it.

1437
01:52:38.580 --> 01:52:47.760
MannyMaCoo: So, it's like, they're meaning to get here, they're trying to get here to go to and go through the process, and they're literally at the door.

1438
01:52:47.870 --> 01:52:50.090
MannyMaCoo: And not being allowed in.

1439
01:52:51.360 --> 01:52:52.000
Chairman of Chaos: Yep.

1440
01:52:52.000 --> 01:53:00.909
MannyMaCoo: So, like, I understand very much the ruling, and why they said, hey, you have to be in the U.S.

1441
01:53:02.360 --> 01:53:10.439
MannyMaCoo: then you have the construct of how it's being applied, and what they're doing, and I think there's a question of the legality

1442
01:53:10.680 --> 01:53:13.570
MannyMaCoo: Of what we're doing to prevent people.

1443
01:53:14.130 --> 01:53:17.530
MannyMaCoo: Like where I'm not clear on this is whether.

1444
01:53:18.330 --> 01:53:24.059
MannyMaCoo: The federal government or agents of the federal government can block somebody.

1445
01:53:24.770 --> 01:53:40.320
MannyMaCoo: from getting to U.S. soil for this purpose? And I think that is the larger question once you take the entire case in context. Yes, there was a football analogy that, like, hey, if you get tackled at the 1-yard line, it's not a touchdown.

1446
01:53:41.150 --> 01:54:00.030
MannyMaCoo: Yes, I, I think that is correct and I understand they ruled in that, but again, it is full context of the ruling that I think is concerning and whether I think there's, there's probably grounds for some more legal cases about to what levels the US government.

1447
01:54:00.190 --> 01:54:03.910
MannyMaCoo: can block somebody From getting to the door.

1448
01:54:08.230 --> 01:54:09.769
Chairman of Chaos: This is asinine.

1449
01:54:10.240 --> 01:54:12.820
Chairman of Chaos: Complete and utter asinine.

1450
01:54:14.240 --> 01:54:15.970
Chairman of Chaos: I'm gonna read a definition here.

1451
01:54:16.890 --> 01:54:18.040
Chairman of Chaos: Asylum.

1452
01:54:18.040 --> 01:54:19.119
MannyMaCoo: From, from Webster?

1453
01:54:19.120 --> 01:54:19.940
Chairman of Chaos: Perfection.

1454
01:54:21.930 --> 01:54:25.390
Chairman of Chaos: not directly. I don't like. I'm not fooling with Wesley today

1455
01:54:27.390 --> 01:54:29.960
Chairman of Chaos: But this is from the American Immigration Council.

1456
01:54:30.520 --> 01:54:37.119
Chairman of Chaos: Asylum is a legal protection granted to people who are fleeing their home countries to escape persecution or serious harm.

1457
01:54:37.710 --> 01:54:47.030
Chairman of Chaos: It allows an individual to remain safely in another country rather than being sent back to the place where they live or freedom is in danger.

1458
01:54:47.930 --> 01:54:50.190
Chairman of Chaos: If I'm coming to you to seek asylum

1459
01:54:50.820 --> 01:54:53.000
Chairman of Chaos: And you stopped me in Mexico.

1460
01:54:55.360 --> 01:55:00.969
Chairman of Chaos: You can't grant me asylum So, to your… to your point, Manny.

1461
01:55:01.190 --> 01:55:06.350
Chairman of Chaos: I'm coming in to to walk through the door to apply for asylum.

1462
01:55:06.600 --> 01:55:09.700
MannyMaCoo: Because I can only apply for asylum once I get there.

1463
01:55:09.700 --> 01:55:12.440
Chairman of Chaos: I don't Once I get into the door.

1464
01:55:12.970 --> 01:55:15.570
Chairman of Chaos: I can't apply for asylum in the US and Mex

1465
01:55:18.070 --> 01:55:27.269
Chairman of Chaos: It doesn't mean no good. So why are you turning me away? And here's the here's the crazy part. You not. You have not provide provided any

1466
01:55:27.930 --> 01:55:29.410
Chairman of Chaos: Defined.

1467
01:55:29.580 --> 01:55:34.210
Chairman of Chaos: measures of… How or why someone could be turned away.

1468
01:55:36.450 --> 01:55:42.399
Chairman of Chaos: So, in that… There's an application process to apply for asylum.

1469
01:55:42.680 --> 01:55:46.699
Chairman of Chaos: You and as Manny put it, you got to get to the facility.

1470
01:55:46.880 --> 01:55:47.880
Chairman of Chaos: to apply.

1471
01:55:48.480 --> 01:55:51.330
Chairman of Chaos: Now, if you want to say…

1472
01:55:53.430 --> 01:55:58.360
Chairman of Chaos: We're gonna limit the amount of individuals per day.

1473
01:55:59.260 --> 01:56:07.750
Chairman of Chaos: to come through, to get to the facility, to be able to apply for asylum on a per day basis, simply from

1474
01:56:08.270 --> 01:56:17.840
Chairman of Chaos: The aspect of resources we have available to be able to handle individuals coming in to apply and you're setting that groundwork.

1475
01:56:18.010 --> 01:56:19.360
Chairman of Chaos: I can understand.

1476
01:56:20.910 --> 01:56:28.219
Chairman of Chaos: But even then there could be a point of contention against that, but it it it it's more meaningful than.

1477
01:56:28.670 --> 01:56:33.859
Chairman of Chaos: Oh, you can't apply for asylum until you get to the US, but we're not gonna let you get to the US to

1478
01:56:36.430 --> 01:56:37.430
Chairman of Chaos: again.

1479
01:56:38.840 --> 01:56:40.560
Chairman of Chaos: Just tear down Lady Liberty.

1480
01:56:41.560 --> 01:56:49.089
Chairman of Chaos: Because… We're doing everything we can, and we're we're an asylum country. That's what's that's what's.

1481
01:56:49.090 --> 01:56:49.870
Jeez Louize: Wow.

1482
01:56:49.870 --> 01:57:02.519
Chairman of Chaos: baffling about all of it. Like, if we were never an asylum country, and you're just bum-rushing our borders to try to apply for asylum, like, hey, cool, slow down, nobody… nobody welcomed you here.

1483
01:57:03.020 --> 01:57:04.590
Chairman of Chaos: But that's not the US.

1484
01:57:04.590 --> 01:57:05.200
MannyMaCoo: No.

1485
01:57:05.360 --> 01:57:06.439
MannyMaCoo: Not at all.

1486
01:57:07.520 --> 01:57:08.920
Chairman of Chaos: So how are you?

1487
01:57:13.940 --> 01:57:14.610
Jeez Louize: Wow, bro.

1488
01:57:14.610 --> 01:57:20.039
Chairman of Chaos: Again, again, I understand if there was a parameter for it.

1489
01:57:20.270 --> 01:57:24.219
Chairman of Chaos: But you had no sound like you saying the letter of it.

1490
01:57:24.760 --> 01:57:25.879
Chairman of Chaos: Hold on, let me…

1491
01:57:28.040 --> 01:57:36.720
Chairman of Chaos: I'm trying to write. Alito stated that a person standing on the Mexican side of the border has not legally arrived in the United States. No duh, jackass.

1492
01:57:37.530 --> 01:57:38.580
Chairman of Chaos: No duh.

1493
01:57:40.020 --> 01:57:44.510
Chairman of Chaos: But at the same time, you know, for them to be able to apply, they must be.

1494
01:57:44.510 --> 01:57:45.870
MannyMaCoo: Be in it. Yep.

1495
01:57:47.310 --> 01:57:52.589
Chairman of Chaos: So if I'm flee Asking… At least hear me out!

1496
01:57:53.340 --> 01:58:02.189
Chairman of Chaos: And then guess what? If it does, does it not meet the the framework? Because there's a framework to be able to apply and be granted asylum.

1497
01:58:02.390 --> 01:58:03.919
Chairman of Chaos: There is a framework.

1498
01:58:03.920 --> 01:58:04.660
MannyMaCoo: Mmhm.

1499
01:58:04.920 --> 01:58:08.880
Chairman of Chaos: They don't meet the framework Then you do as you must.

1500
01:58:09.090 --> 01:58:09.780
Jeez Louize: Yep.

1501
01:58:09.780 --> 01:58:14.789
MannyMaCoo: But you're not, we're not, we're not even getting to the point where we can assess that.

1502
01:58:14.790 --> 01:58:18.130
Chairman of Chaos: Exactly. And that's what's bad. That's that's.

1503
01:58:19.160 --> 01:58:20.900
Chairman of Chaos: Would they say Baz Ackwards?

1504
01:58:21.130 --> 01:58:22.780
Jeez Louize: Bro.

1505
01:58:23.670 --> 01:58:36.909
Jeez Louize: I think when you… when you look at this, with the court wrapping up another, you know, consequential term, these probably won't be the last rulings that we're gonna be talking about, and that's… if they are any worse than this…

1506
01:58:36.910 --> 01:58:46.529
MannyMaCoo: Well, I think the thing that… this episode's going to be out before it potentially is happening, but it is rumored that next week.

1507
01:58:46.720 --> 01:58:58.620
MannyMaCoo: the court is going to rule on Trump v. Barbara, which is the birthright citizenship case. So, if you guys are listening to this, and you're like, oh, I wonder why they're not talking about this, because we haven't gotten a ruling yet.

1508
01:58:58.980 --> 01:59:01.190
MannyMaCoo: But that's supposed to happen this week.

1509
01:59:01.420 --> 01:59:02.289
Jeez Louize: My Lord.

1510
01:59:03.000 --> 01:59:07.109
MannyMaCoo: So… We're not done. The Supreme Court's not done yet for this.

1511
01:59:07.380 --> 01:59:17.229
Chairman of Chaos: Hey, listen, let me tell you something. Right now, if they rule in favor of Trump, go ahead and put Flora and Balagoon off of the U.S. national team.

1512
01:59:17.400 --> 01:59:23.560
Chairman of Chaos: And… Because that's the ultimate example of birthright citizenship.

1513
01:59:23.780 --> 01:59:24.290
MannyMaCoo: Yep.

1514
01:59:24.290 --> 01:59:28.040
Chairman of Chaos: Nigerian parents stuck in New York. He's born in Brooklyn.

1515
01:59:29.800 --> 01:59:33.519
Chairman of Chaos: Had been to the US 3, 4 times before.

1516
01:59:33.740 --> 01:59:35.650
Chairman of Chaos: Before the World Cup.

1517
01:59:36.230 --> 01:59:37.280
Chairman of Chaos: Do you know?

1518
01:59:37.610 --> 01:59:38.290
MannyMaCoo: Yep.

1519
01:59:38.290 --> 01:59:40.450
Chairman of Chaos: Hell, you're… Nevermind.

1520
01:59:40.940 --> 01:59:41.560
Chairman of Chaos: Sounds good.

1521
01:59:41.560 --> 01:59:44.190
Jeez Louize: If they rule in favor of Trump, that's gonna be…

1522
01:59:45.320 --> 01:59:45.950
Chairman of Chaos: Back to you.

1523
01:59:45.950 --> 01:59:46.450
Jeez Louize: Dang.

1524
01:59:46.600 --> 01:59:47.850
Chairman of Chaos: Hey, black people.

1525
01:59:48.750 --> 01:59:50.400
Chairman of Chaos: I'm telling you now.

1526
01:59:51.040 --> 01:59:51.990
Jeez Louize: Man.

1527
01:59:51.990 --> 01:59:53.559
Chairman of Chaos: I'm telling you now.

1528
01:59:53.890 --> 01:59:55.640
Chairman of Chaos: Did they rule in favor of Trump?

1529
01:59:57.170 --> 01:59:58.000
Chairman of Chaos: Yeah.

1530
01:59:59.020 --> 01:59:59.630
Jeez Louize: Mmm.

1531
02:00:00.030 --> 02:00:03.679
Jeez Louize: Well, I'm gonna ask you guys one last question before we move into our pickle of the week.

1532
02:00:04.070 --> 02:00:10.860
Jeez Louize: when you think about these rulings and the potential rulings that are, coming up shortly.

1533
02:00:11.010 --> 02:00:13.590
Jeez Louize: Do you think history will…

1534
02:00:13.870 --> 02:00:20.690
Jeez Louize: remember this Supreme Court as… the Supreme Court as one that simply follows the text of the law.

1535
02:00:21.290 --> 02:00:26.280
Jeez Louize: One that has fundamentally shift the balance of power towards the executive branch.

1536
02:00:26.990 --> 02:00:29.010
Jeez Louize: I'll go, Chuck, you can.

1537
02:00:29.800 --> 02:00:33.029
Chairman of Chaos: I was at this court and.

1538
02:00:33.920 --> 02:00:40.410
Chairman of Chaos: the the building or of this court, since the Obama Administration will be seen.

1539
02:00:40.530 --> 02:00:51.600
Chairman of Chaos: as one that is simply falling along party lines. I'm not gonna say just the executive office, because if you look at what they did during Obama's term.

1540
02:00:52.060 --> 02:00:55.170
Chairman of Chaos: holding and delaying some confirmations.

1541
02:00:55.610 --> 02:00:59.010
Chairman of Chaos: Toward the end of his term until he was gone.

1542
02:01:00.540 --> 02:01:04.580
Chairman of Chaos: And then allowing Trump to come in and.

1543
02:01:05.150 --> 02:01:12.539
Chairman of Chaos: fast tracking a lot of his stuff in that 1st administration. You you You take away what…

1544
02:01:13.090 --> 02:01:24.199
Chairman of Chaos: I truly believe, I say I, we believe that the court should be. The court should be a nonpartisan body that is ruling on the letter of the Constitution.

1545
02:01:24.920 --> 02:01:26.230
Chairman of Chaos: Simple as that.

1546
02:01:27.910 --> 02:01:29.850
Chairman of Chaos: Yes, you have different.

1547
02:01:30.040 --> 02:01:38.640
Chairman of Chaos: Political, entities, presidents who are in office, who are making their rulings, and there will be some.

1548
02:01:39.140 --> 02:01:42.300
Chairman of Chaos: Some foundational… Oh.

1549
02:01:42.920 --> 02:01:56.870
Chairman of Chaos: I don't say interferences was guidance that you have in how you interpret things. But if you're interpreting, based off the letter of the law and not based off the dinner that you had the night before with the President.

1550
02:01:59.290 --> 02:02:01.680
Chairman of Chaos: then… okay, cool.

1551
02:02:02.140 --> 02:02:09.059
Chairman of Chaos: But at this point, we are far gone from that. And I think that's why Manny made such a big deal last week.

1552
02:02:09.430 --> 02:02:15.860
Chairman of Chaos: About the ruling because that was the 1st time in a while where we saw a ruling that was.

1553
02:02:16.010 --> 02:02:23.270
Chairman of Chaos: Non-partisan. That was very sensible in a non-partisan way, regardless if you agree with it or not.

1554
02:02:23.450 --> 02:02:27.149
Chairman of Chaos: You saw the nonpartisan aspect of that routing.

1555
02:02:27.440 --> 02:02:31.180
Chairman of Chaos: And then we turn around very much so the next week.

1556
02:02:31.450 --> 02:02:34.050
Chairman of Chaos: And you see very partisan rulings.

1557
02:02:34.450 --> 02:02:36.350
Chairman of Chaos: That this court brings forth.

1558
02:02:36.490 --> 02:02:41.740
Chairman of Chaos: And it, it, it's, it's, it's very disheartening for those who.

1559
02:02:42.180 --> 02:02:49.490
Chairman of Chaos: Who followed this… And… you… You're not paying playing sides.

1560
02:02:50.320 --> 02:02:51.949
Chairman of Chaos: Just… do right.

1561
02:02:52.590 --> 02:02:54.520
Chairman of Chaos: When when it boils down to it.

1562
02:02:55.060 --> 02:02:57.560
Chairman of Chaos: Specifically when what you.

1563
02:02:58.390 --> 02:03:02.219
Chairman of Chaos: We're taught that the judicial arm of the government is supposed to be.

1564
02:03:03.440 --> 02:03:05.799
Chairman of Chaos: There's no checking checks and balances, man.

1565
02:03:06.690 --> 02:03:07.170
Jeez Louize: Carol.

1566
02:03:07.940 --> 02:03:09.610
MannyMaCoo: I think it will go down as one is.

1567
02:03:09.810 --> 02:03:13.940
MannyMaCoo: I'm going to add a third choice as one of the most impactful.

1568
02:03:14.640 --> 02:03:15.600
MannyMaCoo: Oh, yes.

1569
02:03:15.600 --> 02:03:16.539
Chairman of Chaos: Oh, yeah.

1570
02:03:16.540 --> 02:03:19.409
MannyMaCoo: Now, negative, positive, that's yet.

1571
02:03:19.410 --> 02:03:20.310
Chairman of Chaos: Still the impact.

1572
02:03:20.310 --> 02:03:22.019
MannyMaCoo: Still, still impactful.

1573
02:03:22.020 --> 02:03:22.570
Jeez Louize: Okay.

1574
02:03:22.880 --> 02:03:25.090
MannyMaCoo: Yah.

1575
02:03:25.260 --> 02:03:31.219
MannyMaCoo: I could, sign on everything that Chuck said, but definitely the most impactful that I think.

1576
02:03:32.100 --> 02:03:33.359
MannyMaCoo: has happened.

1577
02:03:35.390 --> 02:03:36.160
Jeez Louize: Man.

1578
02:03:36.440 --> 02:03:39.630
Jeez Louize: It's terrible, man. Terrible, terrible, terrible. We we

1579
02:03:39.770 --> 02:03:42.020
Jeez Louize: Certainly something to pay attention, and

1580
02:03:42.270 --> 02:03:46.250
Jeez Louize: I believe that, depending on the results of the birthright citizenship.

1581
02:03:46.400 --> 02:03:51.649
Jeez Louize: Case. We will definitely be speaking about that, depending on which way that falls.

1582
02:03:52.010 --> 02:03:55.650
Jeez Louize: So yeah, anything else on the Supreme Court brothers.

1583
02:03:58.130 --> 02:03:59.380
Chairman of Chaos: Bye, Humbug.

1584
02:04:02.610 --> 02:04:07.289
Jeez Louize: Well, that brings us to that part of our episode where we have the pickle.

1585
02:04:07.630 --> 02:04:16.010
Jeez Louize: of the week, and you think that all those people that are affected by those three court cases would be the pickle, but they're not this week. So, here's our pickle.

1586
02:04:16.010 --> 02:04:20.809
Audio shared by Jeez Louize: When I get us all into the biggest pickle any of us had ever seen.

1587
02:04:22.200 --> 02:04:29.559
Jeez Louize: All right, so our pickle of the week goes to, and I'm gonna bring this pickle home, Paul's. Well, no, it's still June.

1588
02:04:29.560 --> 02:04:34.070
MannyMaCoo: Mr. Jones. I've been there for a while.

1589
02:04:34.070 --> 02:04:35.250
Jeez Louize: That was agreed.

1590
02:04:35.250 --> 02:04:35.890
MannyMaCoo: Ugh.

1591
02:04:36.180 --> 02:04:47.560
Jeez Louize: If it was outside of the month. But, this pickle I'm going to bring, to North Carolina, and that is our public education system. Now, you guys know that,

1592
02:04:47.700 --> 02:05:05.909
Jeez Louize: Public education system, especially here in North Carolina, all of us have had our experience with it, and you've seen in previous episodes we had the president of the NCAE that was here to speak about education, so this is a big thing for us that we truly have a passion and care about, but

1593
02:05:05.910 --> 02:05:11.020
Jeez Louize: The North Carolina public education system is in a pickle this week, so.

1594
02:05:11.020 --> 02:05:11.490
MannyMaCoo: Again.

1595
02:05:11.490 --> 02:05:13.030
Jeez Louize: Not because, again.

1596
02:05:13.480 --> 02:05:18.300
Jeez Louize: May just have to reside there, but until we get it straightened out, get some straightening, as they say.

1597
02:05:18.850 --> 02:05:32.289
Jeez Louize: But it's not because of the edge, the teachers, it's not because of the students, but because, 72 years after Brown versus Board of Education declared separate but equal as unconstitutional, North Carolina

1598
02:05:32.290 --> 02:05:39.659
Jeez Louize: Now ranks as the seventh most economically segregated public school system in America.

1599
02:05:39.750 --> 02:05:45.689
MannyMaCoo: Hey, top 10. Oh, wait, that's not good. That ain't a good top 10.

1600
02:05:45.950 --> 02:05:47.650
Chairman of Chaos: That's not one you want to celebrate.

1601
02:05:47.650 --> 02:05:49.050
Jeez Louize: Sorry, sorry, sorry.

1602
02:05:49.050 --> 02:05:50.570
MannyMaCoo: Wrong.10.

1603
02:05:50.570 --> 02:05:52.360
Jeez Louize: I want our listeners to think about that.

1604
02:05:52.990 --> 02:05:59.219
Jeez Louize: 7th most economically segregated public school system In America.

1605
02:05:59.690 --> 02:06:15.619
Jeez Louize: Now, we've made progress on paper, but in many communities, we simply replace racial lines with economic ones. According to the new, States of Segregation report, a poor student in North Carolina attends a school

1606
02:06:15.680 --> 02:06:34.090
Jeez Louize: Where the poverty rate is on average 30% points higher than the school attended by a non-poor student. That's not a small gap. That's two completely different economic, I mean, excuse me, educational realities. And here's what really makes that a pickle.

1607
02:06:34.250 --> 02:06:40.200
Jeez Louize: This isn't happening because the wealthy districts are separated from poor districts.

1608
02:06:40.400 --> 02:06:49.200
Jeez Louize: The report says that most of North Carolina's economic segregation is happening within the same school districts.

1609
02:06:49.510 --> 02:06:59.620
Jeez Louize: That means that students who live a few miles apart can have vastly different economic, I mean, excuse me, educational environments, resources, opportunities.

1610
02:06:59.730 --> 02:07:01.010
Jeez Louize: And outcomes.

1611
02:07:01.130 --> 02:07:03.239
Jeez Louize: And, and, and that is crazy.

1612
02:07:03.570 --> 02:07:07.000
Jeez Louize: If we all are paying into the same,

1613
02:07:07.170 --> 02:07:20.460
Jeez Louize: public school education system should the the Zip code, or or even more accurately, the the family's income still determine how much about the quality of education they receive.

1614
02:07:20.900 --> 02:07:24.149
Jeez Louize: You know, some people may argue that it isn't the government's fault.

1615
02:07:24.640 --> 02:07:33.889
Jeez Louize: They'll say that parents choose where they live. School choice exists. Charter schools are offering alternatives, and families should have options.

1616
02:07:33.890 --> 02:07:48.199
Jeez Louize: But others are saying that this is exactly why government policy matters. Just because of the housing patterns, the school assignment boundaries, and the resource allocation all influence who ends up learning together, regardless of where you are, where you land politically.

1617
02:07:48.500 --> 02:07:59.099
Jeez Louize: we gotta get real with this, and it's an uncomfortable reality. The report tells us that America's public schools are about as segregated today

1618
02:07:59.590 --> 02:08:06.360
Jeez Louize: as they are or were in the 1970s. Think about that. This is 2026, y'all.

1619
02:08:07.070 --> 02:08:13.170
Jeez Louize: And the public school systems in this country are just as desegregated. They were in the 70s?

1620
02:08:14.200 --> 02:08:16.730
Jeez Louize: Like, that's wild to me.

1621
02:08:16.860 --> 02:08:27.750
Jeez Louize: We spent decades talking about, you know, equality and education, yet the numbers suggest we're largely being running, we've largely been running in the same place. We hadn't done anything.

1622
02:08:28.470 --> 02:08:44.410
Jeez Louize: in my opinion, that's why North Carolina's in a pickle. Our state is trying to recruit businesses. We've talked about how, you know, North Carolina is growing, they are attracting new residents, they're building, this workforce of the future. But we're creating two different economic and…

1623
02:08:44.530 --> 02:08:52.819
Jeez Louize: educational experiences based largely on your status, your economic status. We're limiting. We're limiting literally our own talent.

1624
02:08:53.270 --> 02:08:59.340
Jeez Louize: The pipeline of those jobs are being Cut down.

1625
02:08:59.750 --> 02:09:01.639
Jeez Louize: Before these kids even graduate.

1626
02:09:02.040 --> 02:09:12.379
Jeez Louize: This is not just an educational problem. It's not that at all. It's an economic problem. It's a workforce problem. And ultimately, North Carolina is a problem.

1627
02:09:12.710 --> 02:09:13.650
Jeez Louize: So…

1628
02:09:14.210 --> 02:09:22.909
Jeez Louize: North Carolina public school system. You're in a pickle. This isn't about one politician, one superintendent, one school board. It's just a fact, and it's sad.

1629
02:09:23.140 --> 02:09:30.620
Jeez Louize: If we hear North Carolina talk about growing, growing, growing, growing, growing, but how are you growing when you have this problem that needs to be addressed?

1630
02:09:31.320 --> 02:09:37.490
Jeez Louize: that the education is that vastly different for kids in the same district based off of where they fall economically.

1631
02:09:37.710 --> 02:09:38.960
Jeez Louize: So, yeah.

1632
02:09:39.120 --> 02:09:44.329
Jeez Louize: North Carolina Public School System, man, you in a That's all I got, broth.

1633
02:09:44.490 --> 02:09:45.000
MannyMaCoo: Mmm.

1634
02:09:45.000 --> 02:09:46.810
Chairman of Chaos: It's a nasty pickle jar.

1635
02:09:47.210 --> 02:09:47.860
Jeez Louize: Yes, brother.

1636
02:09:47.860 --> 02:09:49.080
Chairman of Chaos: Nasty pickle jar.

1637
02:09:49.080 --> 02:09:50.199
Jeez Louize: These ain't Mount.

1638
02:09:50.730 --> 02:09:52.620
Chairman of Chaos: No, sir. Nope. Not at all.

1639
02:09:53.510 --> 02:09:54.030
Chairman of Chaos: Matt.

1640
02:09:54.030 --> 02:09:57.229
Jeez Louize: He didn't matter, brother. But that's just crazy. That reporting.

1641
02:09:57.820 --> 02:10:06.599
Jeez Louize: You know, when you have things like the episode we had with, you know, talking about the teachers, and you see all these things that seem to be hampering, this report coming out this past week is just…

1642
02:10:07.150 --> 02:10:08.920
Jeez Louize: Another layer on that cake.

1643
02:10:09.310 --> 02:10:17.190
Jeez Louize: where, realistically, the public school system is here in North Carolina, and we gotta do something about it. Somebody gotta do something about it.

1644
02:10:17.220 --> 02:10:18.270
Chairman of Chaos: Somebody.

1645
02:10:18.910 --> 02:10:21.010
Chairman of Chaos: Somebody please do something about it.

1646
02:10:21.820 --> 02:10:26.309
Jeez Louize: Everybody should have the same quality education, man. At least access to it.

1647
02:10:26.430 --> 02:10:28.709
Jeez Louize: And… it's just terrible.

1648
02:10:29.290 --> 02:10:31.869
Jeez Louize: Whitney Houston told us that she believed that children are.

1649
02:10:32.820 --> 02:10:33.380
MannyMaCoo: Mmm.

1650
02:10:33.380 --> 02:10:34.380
Chairman of Chaos: Teaching well.

1651
02:10:34.910 --> 02:10:38.450
Jeez Louize: Let them lead the way. Can't lead the way if we won't teach them.

1652
02:10:38.500 --> 02:10:40.720
MannyMaCoo: Which way are we going to go?

1653
02:10:41.000 --> 02:10:45.860
Jeez Louize: or care about what that quality of education looks like. So we are letting Whitney Houston down.

1654
02:10:46.350 --> 02:10:52.019
Jeez Louize: and if Whitney Houston is not someone that you feel like you gotta at least do something for.

1655
02:10:52.420 --> 02:10:53.789
Jeez Louize: Watch Coming to America.

1656
02:10:54.160 --> 02:10:56.020
Jeez Louize: You're letting Randy Watson.

1657
02:10:57.180 --> 02:10:59.579
Chairman of Chaos: Wow, we can't let Randy down.

1658
02:10:59.580 --> 02:11:02.039
MannyMaCoo: Can't let Randy, anyone but Randy.

1659
02:11:02.040 --> 02:11:03.619
Jeez Louize: We letting Randy down, man.

1660
02:11:03.840 --> 02:11:05.780
Jeez Louize: So that's my pickle for the week.

1661
02:11:05.780 --> 02:11:06.760
Chairman of Chaos: Nasty work.

1662
02:11:06.760 --> 02:11:15.940
Jeez Louize: Bruh, yeah, man, to our listeners, we've reached the end of our episode, and of course, as always, at the end of the episode, we like to give you our spotlights.

1663
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Jeez Louize: Of the week, so my brother Manny, what's your spotlight of the week?

1664
02:11:20.840 --> 02:11:34.240
MannyMaCoo: So my spotlight is coming back to North Carolina. I guess staying in North Carolina following. But it is about North Carolina House Bill 1200, the Tax-Free Family Essentials Act.

1665
02:11:34.500 --> 02:11:42.339
MannyMaCoo: So, right now, There is a NC House bill that would eliminate sales tax on baby wipes.

1666
02:11:42.600 --> 02:11:51.139
MannyMaCoo: Prenatal vitamins, feminine hygiene products, diapers, and over-the-counter medicines for kids under 12.

1667
02:11:51.500 --> 02:11:57.039
MannyMaCoo: And this week it is, it's past its first reading that happened back in May.

1668
02:11:57.450 --> 02:12:01.910
MannyMaCoo: And this week it is actually supposed to go to the finance committee.

1669
02:12:02.210 --> 02:12:18.179
MannyMaCoo: Now, I've had some talks to some people, regarding this. This bill will change a little bit. They're removing, over-the-counter children's medicine and prenatal vitamins. I'll get to that piece in a second.

1670
02:12:18.340 --> 02:12:27.160
MannyMaCoo: But largely, so, right now, if… of everything that was listed, only diapers were tax-exempt.

1671
02:12:27.200 --> 02:12:39.159
MannyMaCoo: if it was prescribed through the North Carolina, Medicaid program, and it was reimbursed by the state. But, like with most plans where there's a financial limit, you make $1 over.

1672
02:12:40.090 --> 02:12:54.340
MannyMaCoo: you're no longer applicable to be able to get it. So this bill would have to… would take care of that. And you're talking about the average annual diaper spend per infant.

1673
02:12:54.550 --> 02:12:59.130
MannyMaCoo: Per year is almost around $1,000 to $1,200.

1674
02:12:59.770 --> 02:13:14.240
MannyMaCoo: So… you're… you think about that, that is… that is a tax hit of somewhere between $68 to $75, even higher, depending on… and that's just basic, basic diapers. So you're talking about…

1675
02:13:14.710 --> 02:13:17.440
MannyMaCoo: Getting almost close to $100 back.

1676
02:13:17.680 --> 02:13:30.799
MannyMaCoo: To young families who are already being pressed by the cost of healthcare, the cost of childcare, food costs, on top of feminine hygiene products.

1677
02:13:31.650 --> 02:13:44.980
MannyMaCoo: obviously need for every woman, so to be able to provide that necessity without adding a tax on it. These aren't luxury goods that we're talking about. These are things that are needed, and are necessary.

1678
02:13:44.980 --> 02:13:52.739
MannyMaCoo: So, I think this is an awesome opportunity for North Carolina to join it. I believe there's 25 other states

1679
02:13:52.740 --> 02:13:58.409
MannyMaCoo: That have released attacks on feminine products,

1680
02:13:58.450 --> 02:14:07.900
MannyMaCoo: So we would be joining that number and again the the tampon they call it the tampon tax it's been a debate since the 90s so.

1681
02:14:07.980 --> 02:14:26.789
MannyMaCoo: The resistance that a lot of states have been have that have the resistance that a lot of states have had against this has been the hit to revenue. And for in the state of North Carolina, several representatives here, Mike Schietzel, Representative Ryan, Representative Campbell and Representative Chesser.

1682
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MannyMaCoo: have all said, hey, the revenue gained from this, while important to North Carolina, isn't more important than taking care of people's needs. You know, these are not luxury goods. This is not…

1683
02:14:39.510 --> 02:14:56.239
MannyMaCoo: Buying high-end things for you, we all need this, so it's getting ready to head to committee and we'll see what happens in committee. Now, the one thing I wanted to circle back on, the over-the-counter kids' medicine and the prenatal vitamins, so.

1684
02:14:56.350 --> 02:15:06.100
MannyMaCoo: In prep for this, there… there is a… there is a pact called the Streamlined Sales and Use Tax Agreement.

1685
02:15:06.630 --> 02:15:09.220
MannyMaCoo: It is a multi-state compact.

1686
02:15:09.380 --> 02:15:25.089
MannyMaCoo: that basically standardizes sales tax definitions, so businesses that operate in different states have consistent rules they can measure it, so that way, hey, product X is not in this category in this state, in this category in another state, so it standardizes this.

1687
02:15:25.240 --> 02:15:36.100
MannyMaCoo: Part of the reasons why over-the-counter medicines and prenatal, were taken off is because those are two of the sub… two of the categories that are impacted by this.

1688
02:15:36.450 --> 02:15:41.179
MannyMaCoo: Now, over-the-counter, drug exemptions is something.

1689
02:15:41.180 --> 02:15:56.650
MannyMaCoo: that other states have done, but it would take some additional action. So, what I've been told is that, you know, this is something they'll look at within a study bill. But they are not… they're not quitting on over-the-counter medicine or prenatal vitamins. They do plan on filing

1690
02:15:56.650 --> 02:16:00.249
MannyMaCoo: Additional bills to try to figure out what they can do.

1691
02:16:00.390 --> 02:16:20.200
MannyMaCoo: to take care of these needs. But I think this is something really important that we're taking a step forward in. I think a lot of times when we talk about North Carolina, unfortunately on this podcast, we're talking about things that we're doing wrong. Here is an example of North Carolina really doing something that is important.

1692
02:16:20.200 --> 02:16:25.399
MannyMaCoo: To our citizens and really a step forward, so congratulations,

1693
02:16:25.580 --> 02:16:33.659
MannyMaCoo: to us for doing that, and thank you to the representatives who are pushing this forward. So, like I said, finance is the next step for this bill.

1694
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MannyMaCoo: And we'll see what happens in finance, and then it'll go to rules, and then to the floor for a vote. We'll see if this gets taken care of, though, in this session, before everyone breaks for summer and breaks to go run campaigns.

1695
02:16:46.430 --> 02:16:48.239
MannyMaCoo: That is my Spotlight of the Week.

1696
02:16:49.850 --> 02:16:50.540
Jeez Louize: Alright, brother.

1697
02:16:50.549 --> 02:16:52.279
Chairman of Chaos: No, you know, brother.

1698
02:16:53.109 --> 02:16:55.069
Chairman of Chaos: being the contrarian that I am

1699
02:16:57.209 --> 02:17:02.239
Chairman of Chaos: Although I see the progress in them trying to make this tax-free, I truly believe.

1700
02:17:02.420 --> 02:17:10.760
Chairman of Chaos: many of these items, if not all, should be at no cost to to these individuals like you said feminine hygiene products.

1701
02:17:11.160 --> 02:17:12.480
Chairman of Chaos: are a necessity.

1702
02:17:13.440 --> 02:17:16.349
Chairman of Chaos: Diapers… are a necessity.

1703
02:17:17.690 --> 02:17:21.169
Chairman of Chaos: Now, prenatal vitamins, I have my own.

1704
02:17:21.900 --> 02:17:30.250
Chairman of Chaos: argument against that, because Anyway, that's just, yes, it's, it's, it's progress in not taxing them, but.

1705
02:17:31.150 --> 02:17:37.569
Chairman of Chaos: We can spend millions upon millions of dollars on political ads during campaign cycles.

1706
02:17:37.770 --> 02:17:41.320
Chairman of Chaos: And these different groups and packs and factions.

1707
02:17:41.459 --> 02:17:42.270
Chairman of Chaos: in

1708
02:17:42.450 --> 02:17:49.240
Chairman of Chaos: Kick out millions and millions of dollars, but didn't wanna run and say, oh, the revenue and funding for.

1709
02:17:50.629 --> 02:17:51.530
Chairman of Chaos: you know.

1710
02:17:53.450 --> 02:18:00.640
Chairman of Chaos: These necessities again, not luxuries, not

1711
02:18:01.150 --> 02:18:03.880
Chairman of Chaos: Fun items with certain necessities.

1712
02:18:04.700 --> 02:18:10.159
Chairman of Chaos: Yeah, I'll, I'll, and you know what, I had a young lady learn me on this because in my.

1713
02:18:10.160 --> 02:18:10.600
MannyMaCoo: Learn.

1714
02:18:10.600 --> 02:18:15.230
Chairman of Chaos: Yes, yes, you learn me because in my adolescent years, I was a.

1715
02:18:15.370 --> 02:18:18.029
Chairman of Chaos: treacherous and terrible individual to my sister.

1716
02:18:18.030 --> 02:18:18.870
Jeez Louize: Thank you.

1717
02:18:18.870 --> 02:18:21.600
Chairman of Chaos: And when she had her.

1718
02:18:21.730 --> 02:18:27.680
Chairman of Chaos: menstrual period. I used to to pick with her and give her a hard time about it. This is

1719
02:18:27.870 --> 02:18:30.769
Chairman of Chaos: You know, I'm 10, 11, 12…

1720
02:18:30.770 --> 02:18:31.299
MannyMaCoo: Yes.

1721
02:18:31.809 --> 02:18:35.299
Chairman of Chaos: Speak as a child, you know, when I was a child to speak as a child.

1722
02:18:35.670 --> 02:18:36.210
Jeez Louize: You read about.

1723
02:18:36.219 --> 02:18:38.309
Chairman of Chaos: I became a man. I put away childish things.

1724
02:18:38.309 --> 02:18:39.139
MannyMaCoo: Mmhm.

1725
02:18:39.580 --> 02:18:43.930
Chairman of Chaos: But she put it, she put it to me in the notion of.

1726
02:18:45.090 --> 02:18:46.890
Chairman of Chaos: How would you respond?

1727
02:18:47.049 --> 02:18:51.709
Chairman of Chaos: If we did not have these feminine hygiene products and we walked around without them.

1728
02:18:53.299 --> 02:18:59.489
Chairman of Chaos: That time period is natural, natural. There's nothing outside of surgery.

1729
02:18:59.610 --> 02:19:01.419
Chairman of Chaos: There's nothing they can do about it.

1730
02:19:03.110 --> 02:19:05.639
Chairman of Chaos: But they are forced to pay for.

1731
02:19:05.940 --> 02:19:09.309
Chairman of Chaos: Things to allow them to function.

1732
02:19:09.670 --> 02:19:17.830
Chairman of Chaos: Not even… not even go outside and play, not even… Leisure hangout to function.

1733
02:19:17.980 --> 02:19:27.349
Chairman of Chaos: on a day-to-day in life, and when she put it to me that way, because the argument was of them having to pay for it, and I was like, well, I mean, why not?

1734
02:19:27.650 --> 02:19:32.680
Chairman of Chaos: And then she broke it down like that, that's why I say she learned me, because… and I was like.

1735
02:19:33.330 --> 02:19:34.410
Chairman of Chaos: You know what?

1736
02:19:35.870 --> 02:19:38.650
Chairman of Chaos: That is a very strong argument.

1737
02:19:38.750 --> 02:19:49.030
Chairman of Chaos: of you know. Why do we have to pay for these things? And then you you turn around, and you have these different instances where there are reports that

1738
02:19:49.680 --> 02:19:53.910
Chairman of Chaos: Some of the material in some of these products have caused cancer ovarian cancer.

1739
02:19:53.910 --> 02:19:54.460
MannyMaCoo: Yep.

1740
02:19:54.460 --> 02:19:55.709
Chairman of Chaos: to some women.

1741
02:19:56.330 --> 02:19:59.589
Chairman of Chaos: And it further cements that argument of.

1742
02:20:00.570 --> 02:20:03.210
Chairman of Chaos: What are we doing? So be careful.

1743
02:20:03.210 --> 02:20:06.669
Jeez Louize: Somebody listening to this might say that you sound progressive.

1744
02:20:09.190 --> 02:20:15.840
MannyMaCoo: I think then that becomes the argument of how much of our elections should be privately versus publicly funded.

1745
02:20:15.990 --> 02:20:17.679
Chairman of Chaos: Oh, I'm, you, you know.

1746
02:20:17.680 --> 02:20:18.010
MannyMaCoo: Dude.

1747
02:20:18.010 --> 02:20:18.660
Chairman of Chaos: You already know how.

1748
02:20:18.660 --> 02:20:19.719
MannyMaCoo: And that's a whole.

1749
02:20:19.720 --> 02:20:20.240
Chairman of Chaos: Okay.

1750
02:20:20.240 --> 02:20:21.910
MannyMaCoo: That's that one.

1751
02:20:22.550 --> 02:20:24.820
MannyMaCoo: But yeah, I like, I, I hear you.

1752
02:20:24.820 --> 02:20:27.200
Chairman of Chaos: But dope spotlight though, dope spotlight.

1753
02:20:27.720 --> 02:20:28.959
Jeez Louize: Brother Chuck, what you got.

1754
02:20:30.270 --> 02:20:32.509
Chairman of Chaos: Alright, I'm not gonna be as

1755
02:20:33.420 --> 02:20:34.640
Chairman of Chaos: As a.

1756
02:20:34.850 --> 02:20:35.980
Chairman of Chaos: Intent.

1757
02:20:36.130 --> 02:20:47.789
Chairman of Chaos: As my brothers, although they have some fantastic spotlights, particularly as you hear, areas that I, I, I've had an interest in and, and have a strong opinion about, we already know where we went with education.

1758
02:20:47.960 --> 02:20:52.950
Chairman of Chaos: And then, you know, the diatribe I just had. My spotlight is on the World Cup though.

1759
02:20:53.180 --> 02:20:53.580
Jeez Louize: They…

1760
02:20:53.580 --> 02:21:07.119
Chairman of Chaos: But, it's been a fantastic time. I think I've mentioned before how much time, how much fun I've had and everything that's going on, but mine wants to, my spotlight is going to shine bright on our.

1761
02:21:07.240 --> 02:21:09.989
Chairman of Chaos: African nations that are participating.

1762
02:21:10.470 --> 02:21:11.550
Chairman of Chaos: Ian.

1763
02:21:11.690 --> 02:21:13.870
Chairman of Chaos: the World Cup.

1764
02:21:14.100 --> 02:21:22.630
Chairman of Chaos: And as we have moved out of the group stage at the time of this recording, there were 9 countries out of the 10

1765
02:21:22.880 --> 02:21:26.490
Chairman of Chaos: African nations that qualify for the World Cup.

1766
02:21:26.920 --> 02:21:32.810
Chairman of Chaos: And those 9 that qualify, well, I'll give you all 10, Tunisia, Morocco.

1767
02:21:32.930 --> 02:21:47.089
Chairman of Chaos: Ivory Coast, DR Congo, Senegal, Algeria, Egypt, Cape Verde, Ghana, and South Africa were the 10. The only ones who did not qualify for the knockout round was Tunisia. And…

1768
02:21:47.300 --> 02:21:56.450
Chairman of Chaos: I just want to say it's been amazing because most of these teams were an afterthought to make it to the knockout stages, Morocco was

1769
02:21:56.750 --> 02:22:00.690
Chairman of Chaos: Thought to be a shoe in because they are the number 7 ranked.

1770
02:22:00.870 --> 02:22:06.370
Chairman of Chaos: Team in FIFA, and they were in the, semifinals of the last World Cup.

1771
02:22:07.160 --> 02:22:13.899
Chairman of Chaos: Senegal was given a shot to make it to the knockout stages, as there, if you were not aware.

1772
02:22:14.230 --> 02:22:14.940
Chairman of Chaos: Oh.

1773
02:22:15.200 --> 02:22:20.179
Chairman of Chaos: A legal controversy between Senegal and Morocco for the AFCON championship.

1774
02:22:20.480 --> 02:22:27.489
Chairman of Chaos: Where Senegal won on the field, Morocco won after the fact, and then there, there's a court case.

1775
02:22:27.740 --> 02:22:35.420
Chairman of Chaos: But everybody else really wasn't given a whole lot of chance to make it past the group stage and.

1776
02:22:35.560 --> 02:22:38.529
Chairman of Chaos: At a 90% clip, that's freaking awesome.

1777
02:22:39.880 --> 02:22:49.999
Chairman of Chaos: And then I, I, I like to drill a little further as me living in Atlanta and Atlanta being a host city and we being lit and having.

1778
02:22:50.180 --> 02:23:00.689
Chairman of Chaos: The most amazing atmosphere during this World Cup, and the numbers speak behind it, we had the largest, participation of Fan Fest.

1779
02:23:01.370 --> 02:23:12.460
Chairman of Chaos: Participants, as of days ago, which this number's probably higher now, we were at a quarter of a million people who had visited the Atlanta FanFest, far exceeding any other FanFest of any other host city.

1780
02:23:12.810 --> 02:23:17.549
Chairman of Chaos: But in that we've had 4 African nations that have played in Atlanta.

1781
02:23:17.720 --> 02:23:22.110
Chairman of Chaos: And if you know anything about Atlanta, here in America, we call Atlanta the Black Mecca.

1782
02:23:22.570 --> 02:23:25.449
Chairman of Chaos: And there's many reasons for that.

1783
02:23:25.880 --> 02:23:26.770
Chairman of Chaos: Oh.

1784
02:23:26.930 --> 02:23:30.500
Chairman of Chaos: If you don't know, go look it up. I'm not about to hear and give it

1785
02:23:30.770 --> 02:23:40.149
Chairman of Chaos: But those 4 teams that have played here, those 4 African nations that have played here are DR Congo, Cape Verde, Morocco, and South Africa.

1786
02:23:40.350 --> 02:23:41.180
Chairman of Chaos: Well.

1787
02:23:41.330 --> 02:23:45.190
Chairman of Chaos: They fared very well while they were here.

1788
02:23:45.830 --> 02:23:50.169
Chairman of Chaos: The first one that happened that was a big surprise, and I'm sorry, Jeezy.

1789
02:23:50.410 --> 02:23:54.669
Chairman of Chaos: For this, but Kate Verde pulled off a huge upset.

1790
02:23:55.170 --> 02:23:58.810
Chairman of Chaos: And the reason why it was a huge upset is because

1791
02:23:59.220 --> 02:24:05.299
Chairman of Chaos: They drew 0-0 with Spain, and Spain is the European champions.

1792
02:24:05.470 --> 02:24:24.910
Chairman of Chaos: And not only to draw them, but to draw them at a zero, a scoreless draw and gain a point when many people thought it would be a shooting contest for Spain and just practice. That was a huge win for Cape Verde, and they allowed them to get their first point in the history.

1793
02:24:25.010 --> 02:24:27.530
Chairman of Chaos: Of the World Cup for them.

1794
02:24:27.750 --> 02:24:33.389
Chairman of Chaos: But you also had, South Africa play Chechya here in.

1795
02:24:33.540 --> 02:24:42.229
Chairman of Chaos: Atlanta afterwards and they secured a 1-1 draw, which was a crucial point because again, like I said.

1796
02:24:42.510 --> 02:24:44.259
Chairman of Chaos: That team was thought to be.

1797
02:24:44.660 --> 02:24:48.850
Chairman of Chaos: At worst, or at best, a 3rd place team in the group.

1798
02:24:49.550 --> 02:24:56.529
Chairman of Chaos: But not really having the option to move on to the knockout stages, so that was a crucial point for them.

1799
02:24:56.900 --> 02:25:06.749
Chairman of Chaos: Then you have Morocco, Haiti, and as I said, Morocco was already looking, looked to have been, one of the, few African nations to move forward.

1800
02:25:06.930 --> 02:25:09.930
Chairman of Chaos: And, you know, they had a 4-2 win here.

1801
02:25:10.030 --> 02:25:17.980
Chairman of Chaos: And then, on… the 27th, the DR Congo, Fighting for their life.

1802
02:25:19.180 --> 02:25:38.669
Chairman of Chaos: Put a rousing and amazing performance up against Uzbekistan, Uzbekistan in a 3-1 victory, to seal their fate and moving on to the knockout stage, and giving them their first ever World Cup win and the last time that they were in the World Cup.

1803
02:25:38.770 --> 02:25:41.720
Chairman of Chaos: I want to say it was 50 something years ago when they were.

1804
02:25:42.060 --> 02:25:45.749
Chairman of Chaos: Under colonial rule as Zaire. So.

1805
02:25:45.920 --> 02:25:53.519
Chairman of Chaos: In that, I, myself, has deemed the Mecca of America.

1806
02:25:53.720 --> 02:26:01.689
Chairman of Chaos: For these… African nations connecting with the Black Mecca of America and diaspora.

1807
02:26:01.790 --> 02:26:08.240
Chairman of Chaos: of our ancestry as Black Americans. I don't say African American, because we're not all…

1808
02:26:08.730 --> 02:26:18.340
Chairman of Chaos: belonging to one whole continent, you don't call Irish Americans European Americans, so I'm not gonna say African American, but as a black American.

1809
02:26:18.520 --> 02:26:23.180
Chairman of Chaos: Just the connection to Africa in these countries of Africa and the diaspora.

1810
02:26:23.300 --> 02:26:35.619
Chairman of Chaos: it's very exciting to me to see them… these countries come to Atlanta and perform very well and exceed expectations, and the World Cup is just rocking right now,

1811
02:26:35.810 --> 02:26:38.280
Chairman of Chaos: As the time at the time of this recording.

1812
02:26:38.410 --> 02:26:41.029
Chairman of Chaos: South Africa is battling Canada.

1813
02:26:41.280 --> 02:26:43.779
Chairman of Chaos: To move on to the round of 16.

1814
02:26:44.070 --> 02:26:49.010
Chairman of Chaos: Further cementing, you know, like I said, they were seen as an afterthought.

1815
02:26:49.260 --> 02:26:51.950
Chairman of Chaos: And many pundits actually

1816
02:26:52.300 --> 02:27:04.489
Chairman of Chaos: Argued that the tournament had expanded too far and diluted the quality of play. For those who don't know, this was the first tournament to have 48 teams.

1817
02:27:04.680 --> 02:27:13.529
Chairman of Chaos: In the tournament, so going to the round of 32, generally at the group play, we went to a round of 16, and so.

1818
02:27:13.960 --> 02:27:18.480
Chairman of Chaos: Getting to the round of 32, the top 2 teams advanced and then there was 8.

1819
02:27:18.900 --> 02:27:31.550
Chairman of Chaos: Of the 3rd place teams of the best 3rd place finishing 3rd place teams got to advance. I truly believe they're gonna move to around a 6, 64 total entrance, in the tournament, so that way.

1820
02:27:31.830 --> 02:27:33.609
Chairman of Chaos: the top 2 teams.

1821
02:27:33.840 --> 02:27:35.000
Chairman of Chaos: In each group.

1822
02:27:35.380 --> 02:27:37.490
Chairman of Chaos: Can move on to field your,

1823
02:27:38.860 --> 02:27:42.200
Chairman of Chaos: You feel around the 32, which will make it a lot easier.

1824
02:27:42.470 --> 02:27:47.130
Chairman of Chaos: But this tournament has been very, very amazing. So that's my spotlight, man.

1825
02:27:47.730 --> 02:27:51.080
Jeez Louize: Yeah, definitely have, have enjoyed the World Cup.

1826
02:27:51.450 --> 02:27:55.690
Jeez Louize: And shout out to, those teams, because they certainly came in.

1827
02:27:55.960 --> 02:28:02.459
Jeez Louize: As an afterthought, as my brother said, and they are putting on, they're putting on for their people. I love it.

1828
02:28:03.540 --> 02:28:12.950
Jeez Louize: All right, well, to round it out, I will give my spotlight to conclude, and my spotlight of the week is going to go to Texas.

1829
02:28:13.280 --> 02:28:16.369
Jeez Louize: The Texas State Board of Education

1830
02:28:16.740 --> 02:28:20.020
Jeez Louize: has approved a new statewide reading list.

1831
02:28:20.090 --> 02:28:25.969
Jeez Louize: That will require Bible passages to be taught in public schools beginning in 20…

1832
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Jeez Louize: 30. Now, supporters say, it's about recognizing the Bible's role in American history and literature. But critics argue is, governments, the government is crossing the line into religion. Now.

1833
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Jeez Louize: Some people may expect.

1834
02:28:43.640 --> 02:28:49.429
Jeez Louize: Me as a Christian, and if you don't know I'm a Christian, I am.

1835
02:28:49.850 --> 02:28:50.930
Jeez Louize: Surprise!

1836
02:28:50.930 --> 02:28:53.900
MannyMaCoo: And you haven't been listening to the pod very closely.

1837
02:28:53.900 --> 02:29:07.560
Jeez Louize: Clearly you don't listen to the pod because this is quite, my Lord say, is very central in my life. So you would think that I would stand and cheer this on, but actually I'm not.

1838
02:29:07.730 --> 02:29:11.070
Jeez Louize: And I'm gonna explain why I'm not, too fond of this.

1839
02:29:11.350 --> 02:29:19.580
Jeez Louize: I believe the Word of God is the greatest truth ever given to mankind.

1840
02:29:20.020 --> 02:29:22.380
Jeez Louize: I believe it changes lives.

1841
02:29:22.870 --> 02:29:25.179
Jeez Louize: And I believe every person should hear the gospel.

1842
02:29:26.120 --> 02:29:29.819
Jeez Louize: But I do not believe the government should force it.

1843
02:29:30.120 --> 02:29:31.780
Jeez Louize: on people, period.

1844
02:29:32.120 --> 02:29:37.340
Jeez Louize: The gospel has always been spread through conviction, not coercion.

1845
02:29:38.050 --> 02:29:40.100
Jeez Louize: Jesus invited people.

1846
02:29:40.380 --> 02:29:45.090
Jeez Louize: to follow him. He did not have the Roman government mandate scripture reading.

1847
02:29:45.450 --> 02:29:50.180
Jeez Louize: That didn't happen. Faith is It's not faith if it's forced.

1848
02:29:50.490 --> 02:29:52.100
Jeez Louize: It's just compliance.

1849
02:29:52.750 --> 02:29:58.860
Jeez Louize: And I don't understand… why people think that this is okay.

1850
02:29:59.710 --> 02:30:03.799
Jeez Louize: We are… Christianity is becoming a political weapon.

1851
02:30:04.000 --> 02:30:10.260
Jeez Louize: Instead of transforming lives. So we're missing the whole entire point of the gospel.

1852
02:30:11.050 --> 02:30:13.520
Jeez Louize: The first… the First Amendment, if you don't know

1853
02:30:14.040 --> 02:30:17.290
Jeez Louize: Protects the free exercise of religion.

1854
02:30:18.060 --> 02:30:24.219
Jeez Louize: But it also prevents the government from establishing one religion over everyone else.

1855
02:30:24.720 --> 02:30:28.380
Jeez Louize: Which is very weird, because it seems like that's what we're trying to push towards.

1856
02:30:28.790 --> 02:30:34.810
Jeez Louize: Making Christianity the one dominant religion in America.

1857
02:30:35.160 --> 02:30:38.730
Jeez Louize: And… As a Christian, I just can't get by with that

1858
02:30:39.030 --> 02:30:45.060
Jeez Louize: you know, if they… if Texas is starting to mandate Bible, you know, passages.

1859
02:30:45.210 --> 02:30:58.439
Jeez Louize: What's gonna… what's next? What's gonna… what if another state decides to, implement a different religion and make that happen, and it goes against the ideology and… and of the fundamental

1860
02:30:58.820 --> 02:31:02.449
Jeez Louize: aspect of the gospel. What do we do then? Is that okay?

1861
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Jeez Louize: I just don't think that this is right. I really don't. And I think that as Christians, our mission was never to win people by legislation. That's not how you do it.

1862
02:31:13.850 --> 02:31:20.649
Jeez Louize: what we're supposed to be doing, which it seems like we're getting further and further away from is learning to love our neighbor.

1863
02:31:21.690 --> 02:31:24.270
Jeez Louize: To just preach the gospel to those that want to hear it

1864
02:31:24.540 --> 02:31:27.819
Jeez Louize: to live lives that make people want to know Christ.

1865
02:31:28.550 --> 02:31:33.180
Jeez Louize: You know, it's not about the government. We don't need the government to help us spread the gospel.

1866
02:31:33.900 --> 02:31:37.019
Jeez Louize: That's our job as Christians to live.

1867
02:31:37.710 --> 02:31:44.359
Jeez Louize: in the way that Christ lived. Exemplify Christ-like attributes to those that we meet. Love our neighbors.

1868
02:31:44.840 --> 02:31:46.990
Jeez Louize: Those are the things we're supposed to be doing.

1869
02:31:47.190 --> 02:31:51.670
Jeez Louize: Not forcing… It to be read in classrooms.

1870
02:31:51.930 --> 02:31:55.539
Jeez Louize: So, I don't support forcing scripture in public schools.

1871
02:31:55.660 --> 02:31:59.950
Jeez Louize: And it's not because I don't love the Bible. I do. God knows I do.

1872
02:32:00.740 --> 02:32:02.690
Jeez Louize: But I love it too much.

1873
02:32:03.180 --> 02:32:06.330
Jeez Louize: To want it to be reduced to another government requirement.

1874
02:32:06.580 --> 02:32:10.780
Jeez Louize: That's not… that's not how the Word of God So, Texas, I get it.

1875
02:32:11.580 --> 02:32:13.389
Jeez Louize: You call yourself Christians.

1876
02:32:13.780 --> 02:32:15.959
Jeez Louize: And you want this passed in your public schools.

1877
02:32:16.640 --> 02:32:18.929
Jeez Louize: But just think for just one second.

1878
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Jeez Louize: Is this truly what the gospel stands for?

1879
02:32:23.210 --> 02:32:26.939
Jeez Louize: Christ never, in all that we read, never forced the word.

1880
02:32:27.060 --> 02:32:28.519
Jeez Louize: On a single soul.

1881
02:32:29.180 --> 02:32:30.850
Jeez Louize: The Ethiopian unit.

1882
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Jeez Louize: That was reading the Word.

1883
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MannyMaCoo: Mmm.

1884
02:32:33.390 --> 02:32:35.149
Jeez Louize: Didn't understand what he was reading.

1885
02:32:35.390 --> 02:32:41.619
Jeez Louize: If I'm not mistaken, I believe Paul was traveling and saw him and asked him, did he understand? He said, no, I need somebody to point it out

1886
02:32:42.130 --> 02:32:47.109
Jeez Louize: He kindly sat with that man, explained the gospel, and later baptized that man.

1887
02:32:47.590 --> 02:32:49.880
Jeez Louize: That Ethiopian eunuch was enforced.

1888
02:32:50.400 --> 02:32:51.789
Jeez Louize: Into the word.

1889
02:32:52.320 --> 02:32:54.450
Jeez Louize: The conviction of the word grabbed him.

1890
02:32:55.020 --> 02:32:57.479
Jeez Louize: The Lord sent us someone that could help him.

1891
02:32:58.080 --> 02:32:59.829
Jeez Louize: And he met Christ that day.

1892
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Jeez Louize: That's how the gospel operates, not by legislation, not by force.

1893
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Jeez Louize: So I don't agree with this, and if you agree with this as a listener, I would love to talk to you and understand how you, as a Christian, think that this is the right thing to do.

1894
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Jeez Louize: When we never, and Christ never forced.

1895
02:33:16.360 --> 02:33:17.710
Jeez Louize: His word on this.

1896
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Jeez Louize: So.

1897
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Jeez Louize: That's my spotlight.

1898
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MannyMaCoo: The great battle between being a red-letter Christian versus a red-hat Christian.

1899
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Jeez Louize: Brother.

1900
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Chairman of Chaos: And my issue with it is, The sound doctrine.

1901
02:33:34.630 --> 02:33:37.130
Chairman of Chaos: In the, in the studying of the word.

1902
02:33:37.300 --> 02:33:43.329
Chairman of Chaos: to be able to read and convey and provide that sound doctrine to students.

1903
02:33:43.870 --> 02:33:45.090
Jeez Louize: Kahoot, bru

1904
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Jeez Louize: Like we talked about on this podcast before, just like Ted Cruz, the reason I support Israel, because the Bible tells us whoever blesses Israel will be blessed, and whoever curses Israel will be cursed.

1905
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Jeez Louize: You need to go back.

1906
02:33:58.690 --> 02:34:00.130
MannyMaCoo: Content is important.

1907
02:34:00.130 --> 02:34:02.930
Chairman of Chaos: Benjamin Netanyahu's is real.

1908
02:34:03.140 --> 02:34:07.010
Jeez Louize: You need to go re-read, brother. You need a… you're reading, but you don'.

1909
02:34:07.110 --> 02:34:08.030
MannyMaCoo: This?

1910
02:34:08.030 --> 02:34:08.730
Jeez Louize: You don't.

1911
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Chairman of Chaos: Study to show thyself approved.

1912
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Jeez Louize: Yes, sir. So I have a problem with this because this ain't the way you do it. If anything, you're going to push people further away from the word.

1913
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Jeez Louize: That's why you don't force it. You let the heart open and receive it.

1914
02:34:22.580 --> 02:34:24.560
Jeez Louize: And this ain't receiving it, bro.

1915
02:34:24.560 --> 02:34:26.840
Chairman of Chaos: Be a disciple. Be a disciple.

1916
02:34:26.840 --> 02:34:27.780
Jeez Louize: Woo!

1917
02:34:28.280 --> 02:34:32.759
Jeez Louize: Brother. Simple as that. More worried about trying to force it down if you just live it.

1918
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Jeez Louize: Wouldn't.

1919
02:34:35.000 --> 02:34:35.760
Chairman of Chaos: Hmm.

1920
02:34:37.120 --> 02:34:42.840
Jeez Louize: But that's all, I ain't gonna, I'm not gonna, I ain't gonna pull out the, I ain't

1921
02:34:43.190 --> 02:34:48.390
Jeez Louize: But, Texas, this ain't right. And for other states, I hope that you don't follow suit.

1922
02:34:48.490 --> 02:35:06.309
Jeez Louize: Because you're going to open a door to something that can have some real serious implications and can hurt the word. Well, you can't hurt the word. The word is living and breathing. You can't do nothing to it, but you certainly can make the experience of those seeking Christ a lot worse and a lot harder than what it has to be.

1923
02:35:07.440 --> 02:35:10.110
Jeez Louize: So yeah, that's my spotlight of the week, man.

1924
02:35:10.580 --> 02:35:21.170
Jeez Louize: So, to our listeners, we've reached the conclusion of this episode, and if you stayed and lend us your ear for the duration of the episode, we appreciate it. We thank you for tuning in. As always, like…

1925
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Jeez Louize: Share, follow, subscribe, all of that. Reach one, teach one, bring a friend. There's wings and there's drink in the back. Make yourself at home.

1926
02:35:32.380 --> 02:35:33.090
MannyMaCoo: Thank you.

1927
02:35:33.090 --> 02:35:37.040
Jeez Louize: Roll up a chair. We got folded chairs, and they're the good ones. You ain.

1928
02:35:37.040 --> 02:35:37.599
Chairman of Chaos: Head n.

1929
02:35:37.600 --> 02:35:38.070
MannyMaCoo: Yes.

1930
02:35:38.070 --> 02:35:43.610
Jeez Louize: Yeah, we got the padding, and it'll fit, it'll suit you just fine. Some of them chairs, you gotta ease.

1931
02:35:43.610 --> 02:35:45.810
MannyMaCoo: Yeah, he's down. She don't know.

1932
02:35:45.810 --> 02:35:46.979
Jeez Louize: Now here, you can get comfortable.

1933
02:35:46.980 --> 02:35:48.390
Chairman of Chaos: That they can collapse with you.

1934
02:35:50.060 --> 02:36:04.859
Jeez Louize: So we thank you for tuning in. And if this is your first time, welcome, welcome, welcome. I hope you come back and join us for the next episode. And as we always say here at the pod, if don't nobody love you, just know the boys here at the pod, I promise you, we love you.

1935
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MannyMaCoo: Love y.

1936
02:36:05.830 --> 02:36:08.370
Jeez Louize: We love you. Brother, all heart and mind is clear.

1937
02:36:09.100 --> 02:36:09.900
Chairman of Chaos: Yee yee.

1938
02:36:09.900 --> 02:36:11.140
MannyMaCoo: Oh, here's…

1939
02:36:11.140 --> 02:36:16.490
Jeez Louize: I enjoy the World Cup. And again, as I said at the beginning of the episode.

1940
02:36:16.690 --> 02:36:19.000
Jeez Louize: Happy Pride Month President Trump.

1941
02:36:19.000 --> 02:36:20.870
Chairman of Chaos: Donald Trump.

1942
02:36:20.870 --> 02:36:21.260
MannyMaCoo: Okay.

1943
02:36:21.260 --> 02:36:22.950
Jeez Louize: Enjoy for your pride.

1944
02:36:23.520 --> 02:36:25.790
Jeez Louize: We love you. Take care, y'all.

1945
02:36:26.150 --> 02:36:26.990
Jeez Louize: Peace.

1946
02:36:26.990 --> 02:36:27.830
MannyMaCoo: Peace.

1947
02:36:27.830 --> 02:36:28.720
Chairman of Chaos: Peace.